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Raanan: What He is Hearing on Who Stays/Goes...

Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/4/2015 9:24 am
After talking to people around the league and in the Giants organization, here is one man's informed opinion (subject to change based on price tag, market value, etc.) on who will "stay" or "go" over the next few weeks.

Stay:
S Stevie Brown
LB Mark Herzlich
FB Henry Hynoski
LB Spencer Paysinger
OL John Jerry

Go:
CB Zack Bowman
CB Chykie Brown
OL James Brewer
S Quintin Demps
TE Daniel Fells
RB Chris Ogbonnaya
WR Jerrel Jernigan
DT Mike Patterson
S Antrel Rolle
OL Adam Snyder
CB Walter Thurmond
LB Jacquian Williams
Giants free agent predictions: Stay or Go? - ( New Window )
Herzlich? Why?  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 3/4/2015 9:27 am : link
Guy doesn't deserve an active roster spot. The worst LB on the team by a mile and not particularly good on specials. He's the Tom Quinn of players.
I don't like the stay list,  
Curtis in VA : 3/4/2015 9:27 am : link
except for maybe Paysinger and Hynoski.

Also surprised Chykie Brown would be one of those to be going.
I like Daniel Fells as well  
Curtis in VA : 3/4/2015 9:28 am : link
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I'm looking for Fasano replacing Fells  
ij_reilly : 3/4/2015 9:28 am : link
if Fells is indeed gone.
I hope he's on target  
JonC : 3/4/2015 9:30 am : link
This roster needs those upgrades, and they'll have the cap space in '16 to structure UFA contracts accordingly. It's time to infuse with new blood, better talent, in order to take a step beyond an 8-9 ceiling.

It's time for a repeat of the 2005 offseason. BIG TUESDAY!
I can't believe Herzlich will be back  
Greg from LI : 3/4/2015 9:31 am : link
The guy simply isn't an NFL linebacker.
RE: Herzlich? Why?  
Randy in CT : 3/4/2015 9:32 am : link
In comment 12162574 Bold Ruler said:
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Guy doesn't deserve an active roster spot. The worst LB on the team by a mile and not particularly good on specials. He's the Tom Quinn of players.
I think this is overdoing it. He's damned good on specials and actually can make plays at LB even though he lacks some coverage ability. He ain't that bad.
I don't see anyone on either list who represents a huge loss.  
Big Blue Blogger : 3/4/2015 9:33 am : link
The "Stay" list is fine, as long as none of those players gets more than a one-year qualifying deal. I would say the same about most of the "Go" list.

Stevie Brown should look better after another year post-surgery. I'm still baffled by the money he's been paid - especially last year. Herzlich has improved, though his ceiling still seems pretty low. Paysinger hit his ceiling years ago. Hynoski is OK, as long as he can stay on the field; his role is small, and he plays it pretty well. Jerry is mediocre depth. He's easy to hate because he was starting when he shouldn't have been.
Im not saying he's terrible on specials I'm saying he isn't that great  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 3/4/2015 9:34 am : link
There's no way his LB play could account for him taking a roster spot, so it must be specials. And his specials play is meh. I dunno, the teams just seems committed to him for reasons other than his on the field play.
I'm fine with keeping Robinson and letting Fells walk.  
Big Blue Blogger : 3/4/2015 9:37 am : link
The Giants got surprising mileage out of Fells after pulling him off his couch. He was never more than a stopgap.
so we need 2 starting safties  
mookskingdom20 : 3/4/2015 9:39 am : link
In an off season with a weak FA crop and a weak draft class, awesome.. better get rahim Moore as I have scoured who all will be available as of now and I can't find any other rangey cover guy
except mccourty ofc  
mookskingdom20 : 3/4/2015 9:40 am : link
But I think I'd rather go big on suh
Thurmond is the only one I'd like to keep  
BillT : 3/4/2015 9:41 am : link
Otherwise none of that is surprising. I thought Brown was coming on at the end of the year and Herzlich was playing better as well.
I'd like Jernigan and Thurmond to stay  
Sonic Youth : 3/4/2015 9:41 am : link
It costs nothing to bring Jernigan to camp. Who knows, maybe he'll show what he flashed at the end of 2013. He can be a backup slot WR, I suppose. Wish he could contribute more on specials though. But shit, a camp invite? Might as well.

Thurmond... just want to see what he brings to the table. Last year was as much of a wash as a wash can be.
wouldn't be upset with this but...  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 3/4/2015 9:41 am : link
Chykie Brown should stay. Stevie Brown should go.

and I agree Herz should go.
Cubed  
JonC : 3/4/2015 9:42 am : link
Stevie for almost $3M last year had to be an insurance payment of sorts to him. But, I'm expecting another one if they're keeping him. Let's hope Spags can cure Stevie's gambling habits.
Herzlich is a decent backup OLB and a below-average backup MIKE.  
Big Blue Blogger : 3/4/2015 9:42 am : link
He's a "plus" special-teams player, though by no means a great one. That's good enough for a one-year qualifying deal, period. If another team offers more, wish him well. If he stays, and a replacement emerges in pre-season, great.
Jernigan sucks. And it does cost something. It shows that draft picks  
Victor in CT : 3/4/2015 9:43 am : link
are on perma-scholarship until their rookie contracts expire. He is terrible.
The key is  
Jolly Blue Giant : 3/4/2015 9:44 am : link
"Over the next few weeks".....all players on that list will have to compete for a roster spot post draft and free agency.
will be sorry to see Rolle go  
mfsd : 3/4/2015 9:46 am : link
but Reese has been right about letting some other guys go rather than overpaying them as they age

Most of the other names on the "go" list are just guys. Better to save cap space to try and upgrade.
I'm happy their staying patient with Stevie Brown  
cosmicj : 3/4/2015 9:47 am : link
remember that the guy is a conversion project from college LB so he has a lot to learn. Though he's 27, he has logged what amounts to just one year at Safety in the NFL. I certainly understand Jon's comments about his instincts but he's also shown enough promise - and big play ability - to warrant more time.
The player on that list that surprises me is Chykie Brown  
cosmicj : 3/4/2015 9:48 am : link
I suspect Ranaan may be wrong on that point.
Victor: Jernigan's contract already expired.  
Big Blue Blogger : 3/4/2015 9:48 am : link
The question is whether his "scholarship" gets extended for a fifth year of eligibility. I actually wouldn't mind seeing him compete with Preston Parker and Marcus Harris for a backup spot - especially since the the star slot receiver in front of them is coming off major surgery.
I'm in the " Keep Herzlich " camp  
Rjanyg : 3/4/2015 9:49 am : link
He actually played his best football last year. He is a solid special teamer, can back up at SLB and MLB. That said, we are adding at least 2 new linebackers to the roster this offseason, not including Butler. Kennard, Beason, McClain, Bulter, Herzlich will be 5 of the 7 we keep. DeOssie only playing specials is the only reason we keep 6 LB.
Why keep  
Giants : 3/4/2015 9:49 am : link
LB Spencer Paysinger and OL John Jerry they are useless
When your strategy for team building is to....  
Racer : 3/4/2015 9:49 am : link
...go certified pre-owned on the first row of the depth chart at linebacker, you're not going to find a lot of young guys on your roster who can beat out the Herzlich's of the world.
...  
Chris684 : 3/4/2015 9:52 am : link
of the go list I'd like to keep Fells, Thurmond and Rolle for the right price.

The stay list is really depressing outside of Hyno. Maybe one of Herzlich/Paysinger for depth/specials but both?
RE: RE: Herzlich? Why?  
Giantology : 3/4/2015 9:53 am : link
In comment 12162588 Randy in CT said:
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In comment 12162574 Bold Ruler said:


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Guy doesn't deserve an active roster spot. The worst LB on the team by a mile and not particularly good on specials. He's the Tom Quinn of players.

I think this is overdoing it. He's damned good on specials and actually can make plays at LB even though he lacks some coverage ability. He ain't that bad.


Damned good? Hardly. He is an average special teams player with decent tackling skills. He is a below average NFL linebacker.
RE: Why keep  
BillT : 3/4/2015 9:54 am : link
In comment 12162647 Giants said:
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LB Spencer Paysinger and OL John Jerry they are useless


They're depth. Decent backups at vet min salaries. And they could be beat out in camp but you need to fill the roster with guys who have some potential and see where it goes.
Well, Herzlich is supposedly our smartest linebacker  
jcn56 : 3/4/2015 9:54 am : link
So if the NFL switches to a 'pop quiz instead of kickoff' format, advantage Giants.
Chykie Brown  
RetroJint : 3/4/2015 9:55 am : link
was already cut once from a team Spagnuolo was on. Doubtful he would be kept in that situation, however unfair that might seem. C. Brown, unlike many Giants, can run. Stevie Brown has been a waste of time his entire career except for his Willie Williams-like high interception '12 with the Giants. He wasn't anything with the Raiders or Colts before the Giants so please don't start in on Fewell. He did, however, play well as a gunner on punts. Still I think they are keeping the wrong Brown.

Herzlich is a solid special teams player. Witness wrestling the on-sides kick away from the Niner. They shouldn't keep both Paysinger & him. Herzlich is at least, nominally, able to play more linebacker roles than PayLess.
Glad to see cutting bait with JJ and, YES, Brewer  
ColHowPepper : 3/4/2015 9:59 am : link
JJ over four years had one or two decent games. PParker has already shown he's way more valuable, hardnosed, as a 5th receiver (6th?) than JJ ever was or will be.

Thank you heavens that we won't have to discuss Brewer's upside, his LT feet, his "what am I doing out here?" look when he is put into the game because of injury.

All these cuts only work if Reese and Ross get better at the drafts post Round 1. Teflon GM and Director/VP of college scouting.
I was way down on Herzlich  
regulator : 3/4/2015 9:59 am : link
but toward the end of the season, I thought he was at least serviceable in certain situations. He is not an NFL starter, but he's a quality locker room guy, a good special teamer, and cheap depth. I don't disagree with hanging on to him. A team needs a few guys like that.
Retro  
cosmicj : 3/4/2015 10:00 am : link
your comments about Stevie Brown ignore the fact that he was an LB at Michigan so is a conversion project in the NFL who has bounced around and then got injured after the 2012 season with New York.
With Cruz uncertain  
Andy in Halifax : 3/4/2015 10:02 am : link
I kinda hoped we'd bring back JJ to back up the slot position. I know we move OBJ around but I think JJ would have been better in the new system and provided good insurance against Cruz's recovery.
If a WR target is available in the first 3 rounds  
JonC : 3/4/2015 10:07 am : link
NYG is very likely to draft him, I expect it to happen. Harris might have shown more than Jernigan as well. Point is, I think they can replace Jernigan's ability without great pain.
Why bring back Brown?  
Jay on the Island : 3/4/2015 10:09 am : link
I know the depth at safety is non-existent but he is just not a good player. Even during his 8 interception season he didn't play well. He was beaten deep several times that year. He also seems to be involved in a lot of broken plays where a WR runs free. Week one last year was a great example on a play where DRC was releasing Calvin Johnson to Brown and Brown just didn't cover Johnson he just let Johnson loose as well despite the fact that there wasn't another receiver in his vicinity.
RE: I don't see anyone on either list who represents a huge loss.  
Big Blue '56 : 3/4/2015 10:10 am : link
In comment 12162596 Big Blue Blogger said:
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The "Stay" list is fine, as long as none of those players gets more than a one-year qualifying deal. I would say the same about most of the "Go" list.

Stevie Brown should look better after another year post-surgery. I'm still baffled by the money he's been paid - especially last year. Herzlich has improved, though his ceiling still seems pretty low. Paysinger hit his ceiling years ago. Hynoski is OK, as long as he can stay on the field; his role is small, and he plays it pretty well. Jerry is mediocre depth. He's easy to hate because he was starting when he shouldn't have been.


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Chykie  
bc4life : 3/4/2015 10:11 am : link
Brown played fairly well.

Herzlich actually started to make a few more plays, but, I seem to recall him having some assignment issues, which is troubling for a "smart" LB.
I'd put Stevie and Jerry in the GO pile as well  
JonC : 3/4/2015 10:12 am : link
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Jon Jerry  
Andy in Boston : 3/4/2015 10:12 am : link
was hideous last year....I can't imagine them resigning him, even for depth.
Enough Herzlich  
Rflairr : 3/4/2015 10:12 am : link
Already
RE: I'd put Stevie and Jerry in the GO pile as well  
AcidTest : 3/4/2015 10:16 am : link
In comment 12162706 JonC said:
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Agreed. Keeping both is depressing. Herzlich? Eh. Not an NFL LB, but decent on ST. I could see letting go of Paysinger as well.
Another Raanan note  
Defenderdawg : 3/4/2015 10:17 am : link
@JordanRaanan: The #Giants have been known to significantly up offers day before free agency begins
...  
Toth029 : 3/4/2015 10:21 am : link
The Stay List is questionable. I wouldn't hate having Herzlich for depth at SLB and on ST's, but they need to build up the team's linebacker depth so he is not relied on to start more than two games. Same for Paysinger, although he has thoroughly regressed in my mind.

John Jerry I didn't think played too terribly. He had trouble at both RT for a portion of the season and of course a weak link at Center. For depth he's decent. For starting, weak fringe starter. He could challenge guys like Jones for the backup G spot.

It kind of stinks seeing Fells on the Gone List. He played really well, I thought, and was cheap.
Jerry was inconsistent  
bc4life : 3/4/2015 10:23 am : link
Some horrific games, some okay. and there was the injury thing and the new offensive system. and he's cheap.

all those excuses won't be there this year, so they are probably willing to roll the dice on an inexpensive player.

and again - the article is speculative.
Fells  
bc4life : 3/4/2015 10:24 am : link
might get a better offer
RE: Jernigan sucks. And it does cost something. It shows that draft picks  
Sonic Youth : 3/4/2015 10:25 am : link
In comment 12162623 Victor in CT said:
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are on perma-scholarship until their rookie contracts expire. He is terrible.

Not really. If he isn't healthy or if he still sucks, he can get cut in one of the initial roster cutdowns.

he was hurt pretty much all last year and ended 2013 decently. I'd at least bring him to camp on a vet min deal. It can't hurt, and at least he's flashed semi recently.
Jerry is decent for a back-up  
Coach Mason : 3/4/2015 10:28 am : link
and might not be terrible if your other 4 starting OL are strong.

Have no issue keeping him provided he is meant for depth (which is the likely scenario)
Yikes.  
Dave in Hoboken : 3/4/2015 10:29 am : link
That's an awful 'stay' list.
Taking emotion out of the discussion  
pjcas18 : 3/4/2015 10:29 am : link
Herzlich played MUCH better 2nd half of the season, and is pretty good against the run. Plus he contributes on special teams.

As the 40th - 53rd guy on your roster at near vet min, you can do MUCH MUCH worse.

If he's starting that's a problem, but for depth and special teams he's fine.
I get keeping JJ (the OL one) for now  
ColHowPepper : 3/4/2015 10:31 am : link
because there is so much uncertainty across the OL, FA, the draft. He can be expendable later if things go well March, April, May.
Herzlich  
Beer Man : 3/4/2015 10:31 am : link
had a decent year in 2014. I would like to see them keep Thurmond.
Camp starts with about 80 players  
Ivan15 : 3/4/2015 10:31 am : link
A lot of players may be leaving but not in March. Most of these guys will be on the roster until someone beats them out.

What I don't understand is why anyone would keep a player who doesn't at least have an upside to be a starter. The problem last year isn't that Jerry was a starter. The problem was that neither Mosley or Brewer were capable of being a starter.

Fells did nothing last year that suggests he should not be on the training camp roster. Neither did Jernigan. If backups don't want to accept a vet minimum contract, that's another story.
The STAYS  
old man : 3/4/2015 10:32 am : link
look to be for ST, almost exclusively.
I would dump that whole list, but that revisits last offseason.
James Brewer will probably be out of football.  
Mr. Bungle : 3/4/2015 10:33 am : link
Because he's terrible.

I wouldn't want John Jerry back, even as depth.
Hate it  
Mr. Nickels : 3/4/2015 10:36 am : link
we're losing all our depth and Prince needs to be re-signed too.

Looks like we are going to draft Corners. I know Reese is excited.
list speaks to how bad our roster is  
hitdog42 : 3/4/2015 10:36 am : link
rolle is the only name that gives me any emotion... and that is from 2 yrs ago not last year.
There I fixed it  
FranknWeezer : 3/4/2015 10:39 am : link
Stay:

FB Henry Hynoski
LB Spencer Paysinger
CB Chykie Brown
TE Daniel Fells

Go:
S Stevie Brown
LB Mark Herzlich
CB Zack Bowman
OL James Brewer
S Quintin Demps
RB Chris Ogbonnaya
OL John Jerry
WR Jerrel Jernigan
DT Mike Patterson
S Antrel Rolle
OL Adam Snyder
CB Walter Thurmond
LB Jacquian Williams
RE: Herzlich is a decent backup OLB and a below-average backup MIKE.  
Great White Ghost : 3/4/2015 10:41 am : link
In comment 12162621 Big Blue Blogger said:
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He's a "plus" special-teams player, though by no means a great one. That's good enough for a one-year qualifying deal, period. If another team offers more, wish him well. If he stays, and a replacement emerges in pre-season, great.
^This.
The Giants know their own staff better than anyone  
SGMen : 3/4/2015 10:48 am : link
They will keep who they think fits Spags defense best; they will keep who is healthy (medical records); and, they will keep who they think is $$$ worthy.

They may lose a few players, like CB Thurmond, because that is just the way it is with free agency. I'd personally like to see CB Z. Bowman back for one more year.

LB Mark Herzlich is "heady" and serviceable for the league minimum. He is essentially the last man on the weekly "actives" list IF he makes the team. Remember, signing him to a 1 year league minimum contract does NOT ensure he makes the active roster.

I think much more will be revealed in the next few days. I also believe much, much more will be revealed if Eli extends with a 5 year deal that gives us cap space this year.

Last, I would think Fells comes back for one last year at a league minimum. He is our blocking TE UNLESS they think Robinson is learning that and viable. Or if a younger UFA could be signed and upgrades.
I still don't like the idea of losing Thurmond  
aimrocky : 3/4/2015 10:49 am : link
he looked pretty good in his limited playing time. I'm not heart broken about it, but he's probably the only name on the list that I wish was in the stay column.
Agree with most of them  
jeff57 : 3/4/2015 10:50 am : link
Except keeping Jerry and losing Fells and Thurmond.
jeez  
nyynyg : 3/4/2015 10:57 am : link
that entire list on both stay and go shows how damn weak our roster is/was. even the ones that contributed prior are past their prime. man, we have a lot of work to do.
agree on Fells and Thurmond  
nyynyg : 3/4/2015 10:59 am : link
both I think we should keep on a team. We need to bolster depth. Good news is most of the list falling off is not solid depth.
RE: There I fixed it  
mattlawson : 3/4/2015 11:16 am : link
In comment 12162775 FranknWeezer said:
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Stay:

FB Henry Hynoski
LB Spencer Paysinger
CB Chykie Brown
TE Daniel Fells

Go:
S Stevie Brown
LB Mark Herzlich
CB Zack Bowman
OL James Brewer
S Quintin Demps
RB Chris Ogbonnaya
OL John Jerry
WR Jerrel Jernigan
DT Mike Patterson
S Antrel Rolle
OL Adam Snyder
CB Walter Thurmond
LB Jacquian Williams



much, much better.
Herzlich is a BC guy so he automatically stays  
Vin R : 3/4/2015 11:17 am : link
I wonder if we can trade Paysinger to the Eagles for a high draft pick
Don't know why  
geemanfan : 3/4/2015 11:29 am : link
They would want Paysinger to stay when it appeared that he was in the dog house all last season.
Herzlich  
phil in arizona : 3/4/2015 11:30 am : link
was OK when they switched him to the outside and he's a good special teams player. Paysinger can provide depth at a few LB positions. I always thought he was better than Williams. I'm OK with bringing these guys back.

Bowman gave up on some plays during the year, that's probably why he's gone. I thought he was alright.

Jerry staying is confusing, hopefully he's depth.

S. Brown, I guess he stays because of lack of depth and available talent. Thought C. Brown would at least get another look this year.
Couldn't we trade Paysinger to the Eagles.....  
Phlegm : 3/4/2015 11:32 am : link
and get like a second round pick or something?
The issue with Thrumond was that he had a rep for being injury prone  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/4/2015 11:37 am : link
before he got here, and sure enough he got hurt.

Them not bringing him back may have less to do with his talent than their ability/desire to pay him what he's worth if he's not reliably available.
RE: The Giants know their own staff better than anyone  
Devon : 3/4/2015 11:42 am : link
In comment 12162798 SGMen said:
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LB Mark Herzlich is "heady" and serviceable for the league minimum. He is essentially the last man on the weekly "actives" list IF he makes the team. Remember, signing him to a 1 year league minimum contract does NOT ensure he makes the active roster.


If he's given a contract and stays healthy, hes making the team and he's going to be active every week.

The "if" you're talking about is what you're rationalizing, not how a Tom Coughlin team is actually usually run (especially in what is his presumably do or die year, with him largely going out on his terms).
RE: I like Daniel Fells as well  
Great White Ghost : 3/4/2015 11:57 am : link
In comment 12162577 Curtis in VA said:
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I believe the thinking is, Fells will get an offer the Giants aren't willing to beat, not that they don't want him.Same with Rolle and Thurmond.
Raanan is in the know  
BarbieCarpenter : 3/4/2015 12:34 pm : link
like I need a bologna sandwich.
Fells is a career ham and egger  
HomerJones45 : 3/4/2015 12:42 pm : link
There is no upside there.

at reasonable prices  
fkap : 3/4/2015 12:45 pm : link
most can be keepers.

Stevie Brown: had one good year. got a good paycheck last year and didn't earn it. I can accept that it was payback for previous play. He's at zero, though. Vet min, with incentives. Guaranteeing him anything significant would be a mistake.

Rolle: I'd bring him back for a couple mil. Nothing near what he was making.

Thurmond: he got 3-4 mil for sitting at home. It was a one year show me deal. Why should he get another show me deal?

Other than that, at vet min and no guarantees, most are in the bring them to camp and make them earn a spot category.
There's nobody on either list really worth keeping, except Thurmond  
Red Dog : 3/4/2015 12:52 pm : link
and he was a one-year rental anyway. Too bad he hardly got to play for the G-man.

The problem is that you can't get rid of everybody at once unless you are prepared to go into the season with a dozen or more rookie free agents on your roster.

So I would be OK with keeping Stevie Brown as the least bad option (considering both cost and on-field ability) of the trio of their vet FA Safties, Fells because he is the only TE they have that is worth anything more than an old postcard from Disneyland (he's worth at least three old postcards from anywhere), maybe Herzlich who did play better down the stretch last year, and maybe Zack Brown who is a good gunner and can be an OK reserve CB. Of course, I'm not sure anybody is a good gunner on Quinn's special teams.

Oh, and keep Hynoski  
Red Dog : 3/4/2015 12:54 pm : link
He's a better blocker than any of the TEs on the roster, and at least as good a receiver. They should use him more.
Hynocerus  
DavidinBMNY : 3/4/2015 9:27 pm : link
Is shorter and less athletic then fells amd Donnel. He is a decent ball catcher and has good hands but his catch radius had to be significantly smaller then the TE's. His best asset is he can do a little of everything, he can block catch and run. He is a good fb, I would keep him at vet minimum. He also seems bright and a good team mate. Probably very assignment sound. I wouldn't feature him as a prime read often though in the passing game.
Patterson  
DavidinBMNY : 3/4/2015 9:30 pm : link
I was surprised they resigned him last year. I'm not saying I think Kuhn is better and I don't know what Bromley can do yet, but Patterson ate into the development of those guys and didn't offer much in hindsight. A real solid run stuffing DT to complement Hankins and Bromley would be a nice addition in the draft.
Williams being gone  
DavidinBMNY : 3/4/2015 9:32 pm : link
Ipay also have to do with health. He missed a lot of games due to concussion. Not something to mess with. Hope he is ok, he is a giant hero for his special teams efforts his rookie year.
of those 'stays'  
Torrag : 3/4/2015 9:35 pm : link
Herzlich and Jerry don't interest me. Among the 'goes' I'd explore the price on re-signing Thurmond. He's a talented slot CB and we could use him. The price would have to be right.
so a couple injuries and Herz will be starting  
micky : 3/5/2015 9:50 am : link
at lb again. Good STs player though
RE: I like Daniel Fells as well  
mrvax : 3/5/2015 10:05 am : link
In comment 12162577 Curtis in VA said:
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Much better player than the JPP of tight ends. Every time Fells played a few snaps here & there, he got the job done.
Don't we have a POS corner  
mrvax : 3/5/2015 10:07 am : link
that is a useless young player we drafted rather high? That weasel has to be cut also.
Idk about these  
NYG4246 : 3/5/2015 2:59 pm : link
id rather jacquan williams over paysinger any day of the year.....id keep Fells, Thurmond, Rolle (right price), Snyder, and of course Hynoski, Herzlich for insurance....not really a john jerry fan
I like The Fells as well as a role player  
idiotsavant : 3/5/2015 3:27 pm : link
and am surprised they would let any cornerback go, you just need piles of them in this league, and yet almost certainly cannot afford to value it very highly in the draft.

I do believe that spags can use herzlich as well as any of our other 'cannot cover' linebackers or any 'cannot cover' free agent linebackers, at the right price.
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