Eli is in the last year of his contract. Peyton is taking less money to help his team. Peyton is following Brady's example. Will Eli follow Peyton's example while negotiating his next contract with the Giants? Oh and if Eli wanted to, he could knock 4 million off of this year just like Peyton.
Why would Peyton have any bearing whatsoever on what Eli does? Completely different situations. They are 2 different players why must we link them in everything?
RE: Don't get hung up on semantics and miss the point.
Eli is in the last year of his contract. Peyton is taking less money to help his team. Peyton is following Brady's example. Will Eli follow Peyton's example while negotiating his next contract with the Giants? Oh and if Eli wanted to, he could knock 4 million off of this year just like Peyton.
Again, wait until the real terms are out before going on about this example.
The initial PR spin is going to make it seem like some selfless sacrifice was made (and will probably be all anyone remembers to be honest, because no one controls his image better than Peyton), but what actually is may be different.
to do whatever they want short of buying up China's US debt.
I'd be a little annoyed if Eli didn't work out a team friendly contract. Not for the owners sake, but just to allow the Giants to re-tool enough for another SB run.
I'd love to see Eli sign for 4 years, $60M, $35M guaranteed.
would Eli take a pay cut? Big brother is older, has had serious back surgery, and his arm looked like a wet noodle at the end of the year.
Why do people have to comment on something they have no knowledge on?
Peyton was playing with a torn Right quadricep, that's why he had that multiple pick game in Cincinnati and would continue his streak of off games.
Noodle? Shut up dude. Peyton is a great still QuarterBack.
Eli is getting Extended and it will free up alot of Cap Space.
I knew about his torn right quadricep. Who doesn't? And it certainly made it more difficult for him to throw. But his arm strength was already declining before that injury because of the neck surgery.
There was a lot of speculation that he should and might retire. But he's going to continue playing. Fine. That's his right. But he's getting to the point where his body can't execute what his brain wants it to do. No fault to him. It happens to everyone, especially in a game as violent as football.
Eli is still in his prime. Peyton has a serious neck injury and could be one vicious hit away from retirement. Eli has the longest active games started streak in the NFL. It would be nice if Eli would take less money, but they're at different stages in their careers.
but the "has has or makes enough money" would make me we want to say gtfo. Who are we to say someone has or makes enough? A cap friendly extension is one thing; absolutely wrong, imo, to say he *should* take a paycut. If his performance demands a paycut, well, then the market will determine that.
to do whatever they want short of buying up China's US debt.
I'd be a little annoyed if Eli didn't work out a team friendly contract. Not for the owners sake, but just to allow the Giants to re-tool enough for another SB run.
I'd love to see Eli sign for 4 years, $60M, $35M guaranteed.
True that, Eli should totes sign a contract for less annually than Matt Stafford, Alex Smith, Jay Cutler, Andy Dalton, and Carson Palmer to be in the Sam Bradford pay grade zone
Peyton is trying to win a Super Bowl to put a bow on one of the two or three best QB careers in NFL history. He has a 1-2 year horizon, at most. Eli is mid-career, with several more years to go. He's not trying to put a wrap on anything, he's still writing the middle chapters. If the Giants won't give him market rate, he can - and should - go elsewhere to get it.
Could take a paycut does not equal should take a paycut. I don't know what Eli should do. I can however speculate on what he might choose to do and why he might do it.
So than if a team for its own reasons overpays a QB it sets market
Conservative and Capitalist I guess but you do not entertain leaving a dime if the table. You'd rather see it in Mara's pocket? Don't insult me bringing up the Salary Cap and doing what's good for the team. If Eli blows out his throwing arm he will go the route of Phil Simms, unceremoniously released
a couple of years ago, too. I'm as big of an Eli fan as anyone and no one is suggesting he took a hugely cap friendly deal. But he could help out alittle bit here, especially with the amount of holes on this team presently.
cap space well? That it would be some huge difference maker?
He's not [entirely] blameless in it, no, but the hand Reese & Co have handed him in recent years has pretty much turned him into Jim Plunkett 2.0 (as ridiculous as that should be and is), as far as image/perception go, largely wiping away all the rebuilding and recovery he had done (and frankly done mostly so on the back of carrying what wasn't a good team in 2011 until they could get on an incredibly unexpected, well timed hot streak), and it's not like the arrow is really pointing strongly up for the future right now here.
Warren Buffet had more money 40 years ago than he could ever spend in 100 lifetimes, yet 40 years later at 84 he is still trying to make more. I say God Bless him
it's now being reported(PFT) that the 4 million Peyton is "giving up" can be recouped with incentives, making it a 15 mill base salary and the rest incentives..As of now, we don't know what the incentive(s) is/are
Got to wonder how many of those same incentives were there at 19 million. Workout bonus, Super Bowl MVP bonus ect. that many QB's have in their contracts.
the more you have made( not inherited) the more I respect you. I get that there is more to life than money and I agree to a large extent, except it is usually said by someone who has no money.
Technically it'll be an extension.
Were you a starting CB with that backpedal?
Why do people have to comment on something they have no knowledge on?
Peyton was playing with a torn Right quadricep, that's why he had that multiple pick game in Cincinnati and would continue his streak of off games.
Noodle? Shut up dude. Peyton is a great still QuarterBack.
Eli is getting Extended and it will free up alot of Cap Space.
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Again, wait until the real terms are out before going on about this example.
The initial PR spin is going to make it seem like some selfless sacrifice was made (and will probably be all anyone remembers to be honest, because no one controls his image better than Peyton), but what actually is may be different.
I'd be a little annoyed if Eli didn't work out a team friendly contract. Not for the owners sake, but just to allow the Giants to re-tool enough for another SB run.
I'd love to see Eli sign for 4 years, $60M, $35M guaranteed.
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would Eli take a pay cut? Big brother is older, has had serious back surgery, and his arm looked like a wet noodle at the end of the year.
Why do people have to comment on something they have no knowledge on?
Peyton was playing with a torn Right quadricep, that's why he had that multiple pick game in Cincinnati and would continue his streak of off games.
Noodle? Shut up dude. Peyton is a great still QuarterBack.
Eli is getting Extended and it will free up alot of Cap Space.
I knew about his torn right quadricep. Who doesn't? And it certainly made it more difficult for him to throw. But his arm strength was already declining before that injury because of the neck surgery.
There was a lot of speculation that he should and might retire. But he's going to continue playing. Fine. That's his right. But he's getting to the point where his body can't execute what his brain wants it to do. No fault to him. It happens to everyone, especially in a game as violent as football.
Completely agree with you.
dammit.
I'd be a little annoyed if Eli didn't work out a team friendly contract. Not for the owners sake, but just to allow the Giants to re-tool enough for another SB run.
I'd love to see Eli sign for 4 years, $60M, $35M guaranteed.
True that, Eli should totes sign a contract for less annually than Matt Stafford, Alex Smith, Jay Cutler, Andy Dalton, and Carson Palmer to be in the Sam Bradford pay grade zone
Bingo. I just love when people should tell a professional athlete to take less money.
He should make as much as possible.
He's not [entirely] blameless in it, no, but the hand Reese & Co have handed him in recent years has pretty much turned him into Jim Plunkett 2.0 (as ridiculous as that should be and is), as far as image/perception go, largely wiping away all the rebuilding and recovery he had done (and frankly done mostly so on the back of carrying what wasn't a good team in 2011 until they could get on an incredibly unexpected, well timed hot streak), and it's not like the arrow is really pointing strongly up for the future right now here.
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Bingo. I just love when people should tell a professional athlete to take less money.
He should make as much as possible.
As far as I'm concerned, that applies to,every single person in this country.
Not only that he has a huge deal with papa johns in return for promoting got a boatload of franchises...he currently owns 21 Denver area stores.
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Stop making every guy who modifies the way he's paid out to be a fucking saint
Agree! Why should he take a pay-cut, the difference between Peyton and Eli is apples and oranges.