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NGT: INSANE Eagles trade rumor floating around

ThatLimerickGuy : 3/4/2015 7:59 pm
From Mike Missanelli- Eagles radio guy - Yes the douche who celebrated on twitter when Cruz tore his Patella.

EAGLES GET:

#1 Pick & Mike Evans.

BUCS GET:

1-3 rounds '15 & '16, 1& 2 '17 & Nick Foles.

Yes that's their 1st and 2nd round picks EVERY YEAR UNTIL 2017 and a 3rd round pick this and next year AND Nick Foles.

Please jesus let's hope this is true that would cripple that franchise for a decade.




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what in the fuck????  
mookskingdom20 : 3/4/2015 8:10 pm : link
Not sure how to feel about that one, Mike Evans would be scary, Mariotta to the eagles scares me a bit too, not that I like him that much but he is perfect for the eagles offense and give him Mike fucking Evans on top of it? Jeez, but wow what a price to pay...
Reality  
SLIM_ : 3/4/2015 8:11 pm : link
To get the 1st pick in the draft and a WR who lived up to his top 5 pick last year (and you avoid his signing bonus) probably takes more than what was identified.
the upside of this compared to the RG3 trade  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 3/4/2015 8:11 pm : link
atleast you're not going all-in on ONE piece. But just the amount of assets you'd be losing is incredible.

Chip has balls, I'll give him that.
Don't the Bucs draft first?  
mrvax : 3/4/2015 8:12 pm : link
If so, the Eagles would of course pick Winston.
Horseshit  
djm : 3/4/2015 8:13 pm : link
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RE: That's not that crazy if they are convinced Mariotta is the one  
BMac : 3/4/2015 8:15 pm : link
In comment 12163880 gidiefor said:
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It's like they traded up for 2 #1s so really they only lose a #1 and 3#2s and 2 #3's to move up

Evans is a pretty good player and was a top #1 pick last year - he may be better than any WR available in the draft this year


"they only lose a #1 and 3#2s and 2 #3's to move up".

The ""only" here" just boggles the mind. And Evans would be the fifth or sixth receiver in the current draft lineup.
no way  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 3/4/2015 8:19 pm : link
Doesnt make sense  
Deej : 3/4/2015 8:20 pm : link
What would TB be doing trading Evans? 9 out of 10 years his production wins ROY, and he was a top 5 pick so the expectation is he can maintain/improve. If TB is trading the #1 and Evans, you have to ask what the plan is or are they just going to be the Sixers.

It really doesnt look like a good trade from either side. Lesser trade just for the pick makes a ton more sense.
That would be fantastic  
nyynyg : 3/4/2015 8:24 pm : link
one WR and again, I don't see the huge upgrade at QB over Foles production for basically crippling your draft for the next few years. That would be fantastic
RE: RE: That's not that crazy if they are convinced Mariotta is the one  
Deej : 3/4/2015 8:24 pm : link
In comment 12163939 BMac said:
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And Evans would be the fifth or sixth receiver in the current draft lineup.


Knowing what we now know about Evans, I think he'd be the first WR taken. 6'5, 1k yards and 12 TDs as a rookie with shit QBs. Any of these draftable WRs could easily be a bust.
This is so damn entertaining.  
Boy Cord : 3/4/2015 8:29 pm : link
I haven't seen a makeover in process like this since Bruce Jenner.
RE: RE: RE: That's not that crazy if they are convinced Mariotta is the one  
stillpoe : 3/4/2015 8:31 pm : link
In comment 12163984 Deej said:
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In comment 12163939 BMac said:


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And Evans would be the fifth or sixth receiver in the current draft lineup.



Knowing what we now know about Evans, I think he'd be the first WR taken. 6'5, 1k yards and 12 TDs as a rookie with shit QBs. Any of these draftable WRs could easily be a bust.


Agree. I wasn't even that high on Evans going into the draft (I ranked him 3rd behind Watkins & OBJ), but he clearly showed that he was a really good player in his rookie year. At worst, I see him as the 3rd receiver (behind White & Cooper), but it's hard to go against a proven commodity, especially one that has more potential for growth.
everytime I hear Chip Kelly  
shocktheworld : 3/4/2015 8:31 pm : link
I think of "walker" the son of Ricky Bobby, when he tells his grandpa, "Chip I may be 11 years old but I'll beat your ass", if Chip doesn't do this trade, I will email Kelly that clip
RE: RE: RE: That's not that crazy if they are convinced Mariotta is the one  
Gmen4Life21 : 3/4/2015 8:39 pm : link
In comment 12163984 Deej said:
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In comment 12163939 BMac said:


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And Evans would be the fifth or sixth receiver in the current draft lineup.



Knowing what we now know about Evans, I think he'd be the first WR taken. 6'5, 1k yards and 12 TDs as a rookie with shit QBs. Any of these draftable WRs could easily be a bust.


There is not way in hell Evans only is the 5th or 6th best Wr prospect if in this year's draft, even before the year he had. He's an elite wr propect in any draft, right out of college.
The rumor itself is shocking  
Gmen4Life21 : 3/4/2015 8:45 pm : link
Heard this earlier from someone at work. With the amount of smoke surrounding eagles and mariota, I get the feeling a big trade like this will happen. Whether or not it's with TB and/or includes Evans. Seems to be another shoe to drop, as they are shaking things up pretty signifcantly.

Trading Evans would be whats most shocking to me. The pick is one thing, but to movr two premier assets in one trade would be pretty unprecedented.
It would be brilliant on  
nyynyg : 3/4/2015 8:48 pm : link
the Bucs part. Trading two draft choices for like 10. That is fantastic return to build out an entire roster.
Are the Titans looking to take Mariota?  
chris r : 3/4/2015 8:49 pm : link
Otherwise that seems to be trading up unnecessarily high. The Jags and the Raiders have QBs.
RE: RE: That's not that crazy if they are convinced Mariotta is the one  
mookskingdom20 : 3/4/2015 8:49 pm : link
In comment 12163939 BMac said:
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In comment 12163880 gidiefor said:


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It's like they traded up for 2 #1s so really they only lose a #1 and 3#2s and 2 #3's to move up

Evans is a pretty good player and was a top #1 pick last year - he may be better than any WR available in the draft this year



"they only lose a #1 and 3#2s and 2 #3's to move up".

The ""only" here" just boggles the mind. And Evans would be the fifth or sixth receiver in the current draft lineup.


What?? Evans would easily be the #1 receiver in this class and it wouldn't even be close, I had him as my #1 WR last yer in what appears to be the best WR draft ever, and now knowing what he's already done in the nfl.. if he found a loop hole in the system that let him re enter the draft this year he would unquestionably be the #1 overall pick
No he wouldn't be  
chris r : 3/4/2015 8:52 pm : link
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The entire fan base, including radio personalities.......  
BillKo : 3/4/2015 9:01 pm : link
are hard up on winning something, they simply make up dream like scenarios to get them there.

Not surprising.  
TMS : 3/4/2015 9:21 pm : link
Kelly has been given complete control of the Eagles personnel selection. Now he is building his team to his specs. He has already made controversial moves in this regard. He wants Mariota as the QB and he going out and getting him. So far the guy (Kelly) looks like the real deal. We will see.
I hope they do it  
blueblood : 3/4/2015 9:24 pm : link
and screw themselves for the next 3 years
RE: Are the Titans looking to take Mariota?  
Mason : 3/4/2015 9:34 pm : link
In comment 12164088 chris r said:
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Otherwise that seems to be trading up unnecessarily high. The Jags and the Raiders have QBs.


Eagles don't trust the Jets to not take Mariota for themselves. Maccagnan nor Bowles have given a hint at what the Jets inclination regarding their needs and focus in the draft or off season. Very smart if you ask me.
RE: what in the fuck????  
InvisibleBlack : 3/4/2015 9:39 pm : link
In comment 12163911 mookskingdom20 said:
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Not sure how to feel about that one, Mike Evans would be scary, Mariotta to the eagles scares me a bit too, not that I like him that much but he is perfect for the eagles offense and give him Mike fucking Evans on top of it? Jeez, but wow what a price to pay...


With cap space on top of that
Chip must have been  
Earl the goat : 3/4/2015 9:40 pm : link
Watching Kevin Costner in draft day
I'm getting the feeling  
chopperhatch : 3/4/2015 9:43 pm : link
listening to this shit that Chip Kelly thinks he is above the NFL. Like he is smarter than everyone else. I really hope he drives the Eagles into the dirt

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That's not that crazy if they are convinced Mariotta is the one It's like they traded up for 2 #1s so really they only lose a #1 and 3#2s and 2 #3's to move up

Evans is a pretty good player and was a top #1 pick


Gidie, ye it is still crazy. Giving up that many piks is INSANE unless your team just loves being together and all agree to never take a raise.

I'm convinced Chip might be the new Steve Spurrier. Game built for college, and a head that beloings on Napoleon
So the Bucs will get rid of  
djstat : 3/4/2015 9:46 pm : link
A potential elite WR and the chance to draft a franchise QB for picks?
has kelley  
SirYesSir : 3/4/2015 9:48 pm : link
ever utilized a guy like mike evans in his system? count me in with the "this is complete horsecrap" crowd.

honestly, the source was enough before I even saw the deal. that guys a tool
Missanelli is the same guy who said...  
BillKo : 3/4/2015 9:49 pm : link
trade for Mariotta, and let him sit the first year and observe.

Yeah....trade all that and have the guy sit.
I strongly disagree that this is bad for the Eagles if true  
NoGainDayne : 3/4/2015 9:59 pm : link
Consider the following:

1. The isn't Walker or Rickey Williams, this is a potential franchise QB and a WR that has proven he can put up big numbers in the NFL with a shitty QB, a very high ceiling player.

2. It is fair for both teams assuming the following is true. TB not sold on Winston or Mariota and the Eagles are 100% sold on MM. Keep in mind thinking that Chip Kelly is some kind of sentimental idiot is not a good assumption. He is in better shape to assess MM than anyone. I think the trade yesterday demonstrated he wanted Kiko Alonso but also that he has this big trade in mind. They have a ton of cap room to fill out the roster with reasonably priced FAs. Not to mention with MM and Evans under contract very cheap for the next 4 years they have a lot of money to spend to put a competent defense on the field.

3. I think this needs to be re-iterated. Chip Kelly is a football mind that I and many should respect very much. If he is THIS sold on MM that worries me much more than gives me some delight like he is being taken for a ride by TB.

4. I've done a rudimentary value chart analysis much to my surprise (not intentionally) it came out to be a very fair trade. I wouldn't be surprised if the parties were using similar assumptions to me.

Eagles get:

#1 Pick = 3,600

Mike Evans (with him i'm assuming that since he has proven himself but also a year into his rookie contract those factors sort of cancel each other out, what's more. I'd trade our #9 pick this year without hesitation for Evans) so i'm putting him at a #8 pick value = 1,400

Total = 4,400


Bucs get:

Three #1's: 850 for the 20th pick this year, you figure the Eagles might have growing pains but picks now are also worth more than picks later so i'm keeping the assumption at 850 for the next two years = 2,550

Three #2's same logic: 3 @ 280 = 1,140

Two #3's: 2 @ 170 = 340

Nick Foles: We don't have a ton of precedent here but the closest situation I can think of is AJ Feeley who was for a 2nd round pick. (A guy who played well but you wonder how much the system helped him) Take into account both sides have leverage, TB really needs to come out of this with a QB and the Eagles will have trouble trading Foles for value once they make this trade and I think another 2nd round pick seems fair = 380

Total = 4,410

This is not some stupid move by the Eagles, make no mistake about it. And if MM is everything Chip Kelly thinks he will be with the cap shape the Eagles are in and their traditionally excellent cap management they can build a team without those draft picks. I think those dancing on Chip Kelly's "future grave" very well might regret it.
RE: what in the fuck????  
InvisibleBlack : 3/4/2015 10:05 pm : link
In comment 12163911 mookskingdom20 said:
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Not sure how to feel about that one, Mike Evans would be scary, Mariotta to the eagles scares me a bit too, not that I like him that much but he is perfect for the eagles offense and give him Mike fucking Evans on top of it? Jeez, but wow what a price to pay...


With cap space on top of that
RE: what in the fuck????  
InvisibleBlack : 3/4/2015 10:05 pm : link
In comment 12163911 mookskingdom20 said:
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Not sure how to feel about that one, Mike Evans would be scary, Mariotta to the eagles scares me a bit too, not that I like him that much but he is perfect for the eagles offense and give him Mike fucking Evans on top of it? Jeez, but wow what a price to pay...


With cap space on top of that
RE: Wow  
GMENGianni : 3/4/2015 10:09 pm : link
In comment 12163861 figgy2989 said:
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If that is anything close to being true, Chip Kelly better have his real estate agent on speed dial.


Figgy? The Figgy? I miss you bro!
I disagree....  
BillKo : 3/4/2015 10:09 pm : link
You can't build your team with free agency.

You supplement with free agency, and build thru the draft.

See what Dallas did to Minny back in the 90s.

The Eagles have a ton of openings and can't simply fill everything with FA's and non premium picks.

And, if Mariota was simply just average, or even worse a bust.......disaster.
LOL  
ZogZerg : 3/4/2015 10:12 pm : link
Complete Bullshit
All I know is..  
mookskingdom20 : 3/4/2015 10:41 pm : link
I hope that writers house burns down
Oh please be true.  
Geomon : 3/4/2015 10:43 pm : link
That would ruin them for at least the next 20 years.
All I know is Dan Snyder is bouncing off the walls.  
Boy Cord : 3/4/2015 10:44 pm : link
He needs this action, like a gambler's anonymous dropout standing at a craps table. It makes him nuts watching the Eagles wheel and deal and clear cap space for even bigger deals. This is the offseason. This is his domain and he can't be outdone by some college boy, Scott McCloughan be damned. The offseason is just getting warmed up.
Mariotta sucks  
Go Terps : 3/4/2015 11:00 pm : link
Any trade the Eagles make for him will be an enormous, franchise-damaging error.
This was...  
Chris in Philly : 3/5/2015 12:09 am : link
him reading an email from some imbecile who listens to his show. Come on, people.
Kelly is a great college  
LauderdaleMatty : 3/5/2015 12:21 am : link
Coach. He hasn't proven shit in the NFL NFC east has been down when he came in. If anyone can play in his system why doesn he need MM. guys who I'll swallow his shit is heat he wants. He is a bright football one but this smacks of Greg Schiano a bit. NFL players also have a tougher grind than in college by a lot. He wants to run them all the time by week 12 they are banged up and Mr Know it all wants them killing themselves.

He also got rid of some very respected guys who had some tread left. Also trading the best player on your team for one of your guys sends a message that Kelly will play favorites IMO this implodes. DCs have plenty of film and unless he can come up with a guy who canals defenses pause like McCoy that offense os going to fall apart. Lunch makes Russel Wilsoook better he he is. Who do the have now Sproles to be the full time guy? What a mess
^^^ LauderdaleMatty  
mrvax : 3/5/2015 8:14 am : link
that is one funny post!
RE: ^^^ LauderdaleMatty  
Chris in Philly : 3/5/2015 8:57 am : link
In comment 12164621 mrvax said:
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that is one funny post!


I hope he wasn't having a stroke...
No I'm good Chris but thanks  
LauderdaleMatty : 3/5/2015 9:06 am : link
For the concern. Lol. . Just a rambling diatribe.
RE: That's not that crazy if they are convinced Mariotta is the one  
OC2.0 : 3/5/2015 10:44 am : link
In comment 12163880 gidiefor said:
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It's like they traded up for 2 #1s so really they only lose a #1 and 3#2s and 2 #3's to move up

Evans is a pretty good player and was a top #1 pick last year - he may be better than any WR available in the draft this year


Yeah, but he didn't play at OU so forget it.
Kelly  
OC2.0 : 3/5/2015 10:45 am : link
Better be thinking about witness protection if that should come about.
Imagine the Trade AND'  
NYGNYY : 3/5/2015 10:55 am : link
MM turns out to Suck ? Priceless..
To reiterate.  
Chris in Philly : 3/5/2015 11:05 am : link
Missanelli read this email on air from someone he didn't even know. It was not a source. It is utter and complete nonsense. Please stop.
That would be like Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny coming  
Victor in CT : 3/5/2015 12:32 pm : link
on the same day for Giants fans. I don't think even Kelly is that crazy, but wouldn't it be nice?

Tampa could be a power for a decade if they don't blow the picks
RE: To reiterate.  
BlueLou : 3/5/2015 5:24 pm : link
In comment 12164950 Chris in Philly said:
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Missanelli read this email on air from someone he didn't even know. It was not a source. It is utter and complete nonsense. Please stop.


Thanks CiP for clarifying the facts of this.
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