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Brandon Marshall to Jets rumor

Maximus, Esq. : 3/6/2015 10:19 am
For late round pick. This is according to a writer for Bears Report. So
perhaps take it with a grain of salt.
Marshall to Jets - ( New Window )
Why would anyone trade for him?  
jayg5 : 3/6/2015 10:23 am : link
It's obvious bears don't want him so interested teams should wait until he's cut.
great move for JETS  
Pete from Woodstock : 3/6/2015 10:23 am : link
Marshall and Decker will be a force, now if they can get a QB to throw them the ball...
Because if you give up a late round pick you are guaranteed to get him  
robbieballs2003 : 3/6/2015 10:24 am : link
If you wait until he is released then you have to compete with other teams to sign him.
Why would anyone tarde for him? Because  
jvm52106 : 3/6/2015 10:25 am : link
if he is cut he can go anywhere he wants. If you are a team who wants him and the price is low (comp price) then why take the chance he signs with someone else.
I say why would you trade for him  
NoGainDayne : 3/6/2015 10:28 am : link
because he is clearly talented and this is the 2nd team trying to unload him. To me that adds up to locker room malcontent, as there hasn't been any off field trouble.

Then again they didn't seem to care about that with Harvin...
RE: I say why would you trade for him  
robbieballs2003 : 3/6/2015 10:31 am : link
In comment 12166470 NoGainDayne said:
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because he is clearly talented and this is the 2nd team trying to unload him. To me that adds up to locker room malcontent, as there hasn't been any off field trouble.

Then again they didn't seem to care about that with Harvin...


Brandon Marshall has serious mental issues and has a phenomenal job living with it. He does charity work as well. He could be a locker room problem but it is also just as likely that there is a new coaching staff in town that wants to rebuild the team in their eyes and Marshall is an older player that still may have value and can free up some cap room.
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arcarsenal : 3/6/2015 10:32 am : link
Would be a good move for them. Marshall isn't at his peak anymore but he's a freak. One of my favorite WR's in football.
Here is his website  
robbieballs2003 : 3/6/2015 10:33 am : link
addressing mental health
http://project375.org - ( New Window )
Robbie  
jayg5 : 3/6/2015 10:36 am : link
I understand why but I'm saying I dont think its a smart move. His next team will be his 4th and it's well documented that hes pretty much a locker room cancer. Jets are 40 mill under cap, if bmarsh is released and they wanted him I'm sure they can get him.
another reason is $$$  
giants#1 : 3/6/2015 10:36 am : link
if you trade for him, you inherit his current contract sans the pro-rated bonuses. In this case his contract for the Jets (or whoever gets him) would be:

2015: $7.5M, $200k workout bonus
2016: $7.9M, $200k workout bonus
2017: $8.3M, $200k workout bonus

In other words, ZERO guaranteed money and it's essentially 3 one year deals. If his play slips, you cut him with no repercussions.

If you wait until he's cut by the Bears, you'd absolutely have to include some guaranteed money, meaning if his play slips and you cut him, you take a dead money hit against the cap. For reference, the 33 year old Boldin last year signed a 2 year $12M deal with $4.5M guaranteed. The younger Marshall, would surely receive at least that on the open market (probably at least double the length and guaranteed money).
I haven't heard any negative issues with Brandon Marshall  
robbieballs2003 : 3/6/2015 10:37 am : link
in Denver other than him and Cutler not being on the same page.
I don't think Marshall and Cutler get along  
giants#1 : 3/6/2015 10:38 am : link
Cutler is the real problem, but nobody is touching that contract.
It isn't like the old staff wanted Marshall gone  
robbieballs2003 : 3/6/2015 10:38 am : link
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Denver traded him to Miami  
jayg5 : 3/6/2015 10:41 am : link
Miami traded him to bears, now bears trying trade him. Has to be something right?
RE: another reason is $$$  
OC2.0 : 3/6/2015 10:41 am : link
In comment 12166495 giants#1 said:
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if you trade for him, you inherit his current contract sans the pro-rated bonuses. In this case his contract for the Jets (or whoever gets him) would be:

2015: $7.5M, $200k workout bonus
2016: $7.9M, $200k workout bonus
2017: $8.3M, $200k workout bonus

In other words, ZERO guaranteed money and it's essentially 3 one year deals. If his play slips, you cut him with no repercussions.

If you wait until he's cut by the Bears, you'd absolutely have to include some guaranteed money, meaning if his play slips and you cut him, you take a dead money hit against the cap. For reference, the 33 year old Boldin last year signed a 2 year $12M deal with $4.5M guaranteed. The younger Marshall, would surely receive at least that on the open market (probably at least double the length and guaranteed money).


Well said.
RE: Denver traded him to Miami  
robbieballs2003 : 3/6/2015 10:44 am : link
In comment 12166513 jayg5 said:
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Miami traded him to bears, now bears trying trade him. Has to be something right?


There were issues the first two times. He seems to have a better control of his life now. Once again, I think too many are looking too deep into this. The Bears are a fucking mess. They need so much help and freeing up some of Marshall's contract helps them. Their defense needs to be rebuilt into a 3-4 so that will take some time. They need to get some OL. Forte is getting older. They need to start getting younger.
It could also be the simple fact  
nygiants16 : 3/6/2015 10:46 am : link
of the Bears wanting to save a little bit of money and Fox wanting to build his own team..

First step Marshall, Second step Cutler
Nice buy low candidate  
Metnut : 3/6/2015 10:50 am : link
for the Jets. If they keep their pick and take Cooper or White, they'd have a really solid WR trio with Decker/Marshall/#6 pick.
RE: another reason is $$$  
AcidTest : 3/6/2015 10:59 am : link
In comment 12166495 giants#1 said:
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if you trade for him, you inherit his current contract sans the pro-rated bonuses. In this case his contract for the Jets (or whoever gets him) would be:

2015: $7.5M, $200k workout bonus
2016: $7.9M, $200k workout bonus
2017: $8.3M, $200k workout bonus

In other words, ZERO guaranteed money and it's essentially 3 one year deals. If his play slips, you cut him with no repercussions.

If you wait until he's cut by the Bears, you'd absolutely have to include some guaranteed money, meaning if his play slips and you cut him, you take a dead money hit against the cap. For reference, the 33 year old Boldin last year signed a 2 year $12M deal with $4.5M guaranteed. The younger Marshall, would surely receive at least that on the open market (probably at least double the length and guaranteed money).


Excellent analysis. The only question is whether he's worth $7.5M this year. I could see it either way.
RE: I say why would you trade for him  
Victor in CT : 3/6/2015 11:01 am : link
In comment 12166470 NoGainDayne said:
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because he is clearly talented and this is the 2nd team trying to unload him. To me that adds up to locker room malcontent, as there hasn't been any off field trouble.

Then again they didn't seem to care about that with Harvin...


He's a prototypical Jet.
Deal done according to Schefter  
jeff57 : 3/6/2015 11:07 am : link
AdamSchefter ·

Bears have agreed to trade WR Brandon Marshall to the Jets pending a physical, per league source.

Wow  
kelsto811 : 3/6/2015 11:09 am : link
Guess it was true
Any effect  
sphinx : 3/6/2015 11:16 am : link
on the Giants at #9?

Jets will be interesting to watch this offseason.  
bceagle05 : 3/6/2015 11:16 am : link
Idzik's ineptitude left the Jets with a pot of gold to spend in free agency. As always though, it's about the QB.
RE: Any effect  
jeff57 : 3/6/2015 11:17 am : link
In comment 12166588 sphinx said:
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on the Giants at #9?


Yeah, they may go D or OL instead of WR if the two QBs are taken.
I think they may just take Mariota now  
UConn4523 : 3/6/2015 11:17 am : link
what good are these guys if Geno is throwing the ball?
Jets need an Eli/Warner kind of situation  
ij_reilly : 3/6/2015 11:29 am : link
Bring in a quality veteran QB as the starter. Draft Mariota. Give him a year or so to acclimate to the NFL (strength, pocket presence, etc). Then he starts.
RE: RE: Any effect  
YAJ2112 : 3/6/2015 11:31 am : link
In comment 12166592 jeff57 said:
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on the Giants at #9?




Yeah, they may go D or OL instead of WR if the two QBs are taken.


Of course the Bears may now go WR
this may increase the likelhood of  
Pep22 : 3/6/2015 11:32 am : link
Cooper falling to 9 (which would be a ballsy draft pick for NYG given LOS concerns):

Still:

Rd 1. Cooper
2. OG Tre Jackson
3. DT Xavier Cooper
4. LB Paul Dawson
5. TE Nick OLeary
6. LB Ben Heeney
7. RB Thomas Rawls
7a. CB Cam Thomas
I still think Jets will trade w/ Eagles  
Bockman : 3/6/2015 11:34 am : link
and get Foles + picks.
Mariotta sucks  
Go Terps : 3/6/2015 11:35 am : link
They're better off with Geno.
Also this trade means harvin will more than likely be cuy  
kelsto811 : 3/6/2015 11:37 am : link
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The Jets would save $10.5M by cutting Harvin and they'll send a 6th rounder to the Seahawks, not a 4th rounder, to complete '14 trade. #nyj
RE: RE: RE: Any effect  
jeff57 : 3/6/2015 11:39 am : link
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on the Giants at #9?




Yeah, they may go D or OL instead of WR if the two QBs are taken.



Of course the Bears may now go WR


Still think with Fox, and as bad as their defense is, they'll go D.
Really just hope the Eagles dont give the Jets a big package  
knicks3031 : 3/6/2015 11:48 am : link
to move up. The Jets could become a legit team really soon if that happened.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Any effect  
Coach Mason : 3/6/2015 11:55 am : link
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on the Giants at #9?




Yeah, they may go D or OL instead of WR if the two QBs are taken.



Of course the Bears may now go WR



Still think with Fox, and as bad as their defense is, they'll go D.


Could go receiver with 2nd pick as position is stacked especially if they like any of the hybrid pass-rushers.
A true 3-4 NT is what their in desperate need for  
CromartiesKid21 : 3/6/2015 11:58 am : link
Shelton at #7 seems a match too perfect to ignore.
I think Foles to Jets  
jvm52106 : 3/6/2015 11:58 am : link
would be a huge win for them. All of a sudden you have a nice young TE, two good WR's and a solid if unspectacular oline.

Jets drop down get extra picks, the QB to build around and suddenly a bad situation looks a lot better.
Oof, that'll go well.  
Dave in Hoboken : 3/6/2015 12:01 pm : link
I'm sure Marshall is thrilled, especially with the Jets QB situation and their prospects at that position going forward, LOL.
RE: I think Foles to Jets  
FranknWeezer : 3/6/2015 12:02 pm : link
In comment 12166722 jvm52106 said:
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would be a huge win for them. All of a sudden you have a nice young TE, two good WR's and a solid if unspectacular oline.

Jets drop down get extra picks, the QB to build around and suddenly a bad situation looks a lot better.


^^^^This^^^^
Good thread, Maximus.....  
CBSGameFace : 3/6/2015 6:10 pm : link
Beat everyone to the punch. We should have you on the show......
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