for an under-inflated football. Guess there were no takers. Sux that he wasn't good enough to play in the NFL. The Giant's scout that recommended him should have to watch 5 back-to-back episodes of "Honey Boo-Boo" as a penance.
thank you and Amen. A whole lot of trash pulled in by Reese & Ross. Whether it was Mara saying screw this reach for projects and their upside potential or change in FO personnel (would love to hear that Ross is gone), something is changing, about three years late.
Wasn't Brewer projected to go in the forth round? Â
He's a guy that simply didn't play much in college....and they fell in love with the size and potential, which was never realized.
Staying away from picks such as this, which they have been doing the last two drafts, is the way to continue.
No reaching for project type players.
4th round player success rates are low across the league. You Have To Take players who have measurable but no product on or guys with good production who lack measurables. or guys who might have both but have extensive injury histories.
Because productive guys with good measurable and health don't make it out of round 2.
118 Kansas City Chiefs Jalil Brown DB Colorado
119 Indianapolis Colts Delone Carter RB Syracuse
120 Philadelphia Eagles Alex Henery K Nebraska
121 Jacksonville Jaguars Chris Prosinski DB Wyoming
122 Buffalo Bills Chris Hairston T Clemson
123 Baltimore Ravens Tandon Doss WR Indiana
124 Cleveland Browns Owen Marecic RB Stanford
125 Oakland Raiders Taiwan Jones RB Eastern Washington
126 New York Jets Bilal Powell RB Louisville
127 Houston Texans Rashad Carmichael DB Virginia Tech
128 Pittsburgh Steelers Cortez Allen DB The Citadel
129 Denver Broncos Julius Thomas TE Portland State
130 Tennessee Titans Jamie Harper RB Clemson
131 Green Bay Packers Davon House DB New Mexico State
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132 Carolina Panthers Kealoha Pilares WR Hawaii
133 Buffalo Bills Johnny White RB North Carolina
134 Cincinnati Bengals Robert Sands DB West Virginia
135 Kansas City Chiefs Ricky Stanzi QB Iowa
136 Arizona Cardinals Anthony Sherman RB Connecticut
137 Cleveland Browns Buster Skrine DB Tennessee-Chattanooga
138 New England Patriots Marcus Cannon T Texas Christian
139 Minnesota Vikings Brandon Burton DB Utah
140 Kansas City Chiefs Gabe Miller LB Oregon State
141 Green Bay Packers D.J. Williams TE Arkansas
James Brewer, Indiana – height, weight, speed, offensive tackle. A bit of a late bloomer, but we think he has a tremendous upside. He’s a really good athlete. Only had one year of high school football, but he’s played a lot of football at Indiana. Long arms, big man. Not as developed as much as you would like for him to be at this point, but this guy’s already 323 pounds. He can add 10 to 15 pounds in a blink, we think. With the long arms, he’s got 35.5 inch arms, he benched 25 times, which is good, and he ran really fast for a gigantic man like he is. So we think there is a lot of upside with him. We’ll get him in the mix.
Reese didn't have a fifth-round pick that year, and I think he acknowledged that #117 might have been a little early for Brewer. But they saw potential and went for it. Anyway, I guess the team has notified him that they aren't interested in retaining him at any price.
James Brewer, Indiana – height, weight, speed, offensive tackle. A bit of a late bloomer, but we think he has a tremendous upside. He’s a really good athlete. Only had one year of high school football, but he’s played a lot of football at Indiana. Long arms, big man. Not as developed as much as you would like for him to be at this point, but this guy’s already 323 pounds. He can add 10 to 15 pounds in a blink, we think. With the long arms, he’s got 35.5 inch arms, he benched 25 times, which is good, and he ran really fast for a gigantic man like he is. So we think there is a lot of upside with him. We’ll get him in the mix.
Reese didn't have a fifth-round pick that year, and I think he acknowledged that #117 might have been a little early for Brewer. But they saw potential and went for it. Anyway, I guess the team has notified him that they aren't interested in retaining him at any price.
Well, I appear to be off in my comments, I thought Brewer missed a lot time at Indy.......maybe I am remembering the HS comment.
True NFL left tackles are rare enough that I don't mind an occasional 4th-rounder spent on a longshot to fill the spot. You probably have to go through a few Guy Whimpers and James Brewers before you find a legit starter, but that's a big enough payout when you hit to merit the investment, depending on the opportunity cost.
for me the point is not that Brewer was a 4th Round pick, who like too many of R&R's high- to mid-round picks show nothing, it's that they kept him around so long, as with many others, as if FO doesn't want to acknowledge it's a bad pick and move along; it's the continuous touting of the picks (and those still on the roster? Moseley (? for whom I have some hope), Robinson, Hosley, JJ, now gone) long after it should have become clear that they don't belong in the NFL
we picked fairly late in the 4th, so how does that constitute a reach? When he played, he did ok at guard - biggest issue was he was always hurt.
The draft analysts at NFL.com thought Brewer was nothing more than UDFA material, and their scouting report on him was balls-on accurate, in retrospect.
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Brewer has some redeeming qualities - size and work ethic - but does not possess the movement skills of an NFL offensive lineman. Really struggles versus quick pass rushers and is not a candidate to lead out on the edge or be productive blocking at the second level. Despite size, can be pushed back by defensive lineman with similar size and strength and doesn't get great movement off the ball...Brewer is a likely rookie free agent.
But the problem wasn't that Brewer was drafted in the fourth round, but that he stayed on the team for four years. All that proves is how badly Reese mangled the OL.
As somebody said, most fourth round picks don't work out. The problem is that Reese has a penchant for these guys. Marvin Austin, Mitch Petrus, and Adrien Robinson are other notable examples. There are still players with production to be drafted in the fourth round.
In his defense, Brewer never had any off the field incidents, and was a good teammate. Best of luck to him.
Brewer - ( New Window )
He's a guy that simply didn't play much in college....and they fell in love with the size and potential, which was never realized.
Staying away from picks such as this, which they have been doing the last two drafts, is the way to continue.
No reaching for project type players.
Problem was he had 2 left feet :-)
He's a guy that simply didn't play much in college....and they fell in love with the size and potential, which was never realized.
Staying away from picks such as this, which they have been doing the last two drafts, is the way to continue.
No reaching for project type players.
You know a lot of 4th rounders don't work out, don't you?
He's a guy that simply didn't play much in college....and they fell in love with the size and potential, which was never realized.
Staying away from picks such as this, which they have been doing the last two drafts, is the way to continue.
No reaching for project type players.
4th round player success rates are low across the league. You Have To Take players who have measurable but no product on or guys with good production who lack measurables. or guys who might have both but have extensive injury histories.
Because productive guys with good measurable and health don't make it out of round 2.
nearly all day 3 picks are projects
118 Kansas City Chiefs Jalil Brown DB Colorado
119 Indianapolis Colts Delone Carter RB Syracuse
120 Philadelphia Eagles Alex Henery K Nebraska
121 Jacksonville Jaguars Chris Prosinski DB Wyoming
122 Buffalo Bills Chris Hairston T Clemson
123 Baltimore Ravens Tandon Doss WR Indiana
124 Cleveland Browns Owen Marecic RB Stanford
125 Oakland Raiders Taiwan Jones RB Eastern Washington
126 New York Jets Bilal Powell RB Louisville
127 Houston Texans Rashad Carmichael DB Virginia Tech
128 Pittsburgh Steelers Cortez Allen DB The Citadel
129 Denver Broncos Julius Thomas TE Portland State
130 Tennessee Titans Jamie Harper RB Clemson
131 Green Bay Packers Davon House DB New Mexico State
133 Buffalo Bills Johnny White RB North Carolina
134 Cincinnati Bengals Robert Sands DB West Virginia
135 Kansas City Chiefs Ricky Stanzi QB Iowa
136 Arizona Cardinals Anthony Sherman RB Connecticut
137 Cleveland Browns Buster Skrine DB Tennessee-Chattanooga
138 New England Patriots Marcus Cannon T Texas Christian
139 Minnesota Vikings Brandon Burton DB Utah
140 Kansas City Chiefs Gabe Miller LB Oregon State
141 Green Bay Packers D.J. Williams TE Arkansas
Good luck in whatever is next, JB. Sorry it didn't work out.
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of Reese and the Giants reaching for players.
He's a guy that simply didn't play much in college....and they fell in love with the size and potential, which was never realized.
Staying away from picks such as this, which they have been doing the last two drafts, is the way to continue.
No reaching for project type players.
You know a lot of 4th rounders don't work out, don't you?
Yes, a ton do.
But I'd rather take a guy who actually played, and competed.
Make sense?
Brewer did neither.
Seriously. That's all I'll remember about this lousy player.
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James Brewer, Indiana – height, weight, speed, offensive tackle. A bit of a late bloomer, but we think he has a tremendous upside. He’s a really good athlete. Only had one year of high school football, but he’s played a lot of football at Indiana. Long arms, big man. Not as developed as much as you would like for him to be at this point, but this guy’s already 323 pounds. He can add 10 to 15 pounds in a blink, we think. With the long arms, he’s got 35.5 inch arms, he benched 25 times, which is good, and he ran really fast for a gigantic man like he is. So we think there is a lot of upside with him. We’ll get him in the mix.
Reese didn't have a fifth-round pick that year, and I think he acknowledged that #117 might have been a little early for Brewer. But they saw potential and went for it. Anyway, I guess the team has notified him that they aren't interested in retaining him at any price.
Well, I appear to be off in my comments, I thought Brewer missed a lot time at Indy.......maybe I am remembering the HS comment.
2007: missed due to injury
2008: 8 games, season ending injury
2009: started all 12 games
2010: started 9 games, missed 3 to injury
2007: missed due to injury
2008: 8 games, season ending injury
2009: started all 12 games
2010: started 9 games, missed 3 to injury
I actually remember him being a guy that really didn't even start that much as indicated above.
Brewer at least looked like a two year starter.
Brewer just reminds me of the guy Acorsi took from an Ivy League school.....was it Hatch?
Same mold.......
Beatty drafted 2nd round pick 60 overall
Pugh drafted 1st round pick 19 overall
Richburg drafted 2 round pick 43 overall
This is completely false. He was never ok at anything. And if he never gets hurt again, he will still be an awful NFL player.
After a very long week at work, this makes me smile.
The Giants future actually has improved with this subtle move.
They only ignored surrounding Eli with competent warm bodies.
The draft analysts at NFL.com thought Brewer was nothing more than UDFA material, and their scouting report on him was balls-on accurate, in retrospect.
James Brewer - ( New Window )
But the problem wasn't that Brewer was drafted in the fourth round, but that he stayed on the team for four years. All that proves is how badly Reese mangled the OL.
As somebody said, most fourth round picks don't work out. The problem is that Reese has a penchant for these guys. Marvin Austin, Mitch Petrus, and Adrien Robinson are other notable examples. There are still players with production to be drafted in the fourth round.
In his defense, Brewer never had any off the field incidents, and was a good teammate. Best of luck to him.