Lets Discuss Rahim Moore

which unfortunately will give some a tainted image of him, he is a very good free safety both in space and in man coverage, will hit but not a thumper

and my college roommate WAS a Bronco season ticket holder. Their opinions on McCourty and Moore were the same, solid yet unspectacular. My boss added that, "have you ever seen the Pats under Belichick let someone walk who had more success with their new team?" The only one I could think of was Damian Woody.

Not much there, but they both think their teams will survive losing each player.

he had mentioned over the years that he wants to play with his brother again, so Tennessee seems to be a likely destination (if they have the money).

we really know the defensive scheme and get a film where we actually know the what type of call was made and what coverage is being played; it's nearly impossible to know just how good a player is. We have to leave it to the scouting dept. and coaches to figure that stuff out. Although I can see how regular fans would say either is replaceable, being that neither really made very many jaw dropping plays.

I think Parker and Searcy are much better value options

In comment 12167192 aimrocky said:

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and my college roommate WAS a Bronco season ticket holder. Their opinions on McCourty and Moore were the same, solid yet unspectacular. My boss added that, "have you ever seen the Pats under Belichick let someone walk who had more success with their new team?" The only one I could think of was Damian Woody. Not much there, but they both think their teams will survive losing each player.

That is free agency in general. Teams don't usually let franchise guys go and when they do its because they get super expensive

He can play Safety, Corner, return kicks. Moore is a good safety though and I would more than happy with him being signed as a nice consolation.

I would go with Moore as he is supposed to be less expensive to sign.

true neither is worth anything close to that.

McCourty is a good starter - nothing more. If he's looking for Pro Bowl $$$ u gotta pass.

Rahim Moore is a fringe starter with major holes in his game. if he wants $5-8M per LMAO!

With lateral compartment syndrome, is it even possible to determine the risk of recurrence? And while he's not Chad Jones, does anyone know how much speed/agility he lost?
That's some scar. - ( New Window )

is a fringe starter? Christ.

In comment 12167292 Big Blue Blogger said:

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With lateral compartment syndrome, is it even possible to determine the risk of recurrence? And while he's not Chad Jones, does anyone know how much speed/agility he lost? That's some scar. - ( New Window )

I wonder. Nicks had that his rookie season.

I'd have to disagree with you on Moore. I don't think hes a fringe starter. He'd help this team if the Giants signed him.

he's nothing special don't you?

Like who, OBJ? You said he's a fringe starter which is pretty fucking dumb.

In comment 12167311 area junc said:

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he's nothing special don't you?

Depends on your definition of special. To me, Beckham Jr. is special and you can't afford 11 "special players" on both sides of the ball you need to supplement them with solid starters, Moore fits the bill of solid starter.

wouldn't "Help" but he is not a $5-$8M player. sorry

In comment 12167313 2ndroundKO said:

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Like who, OBJ? You said he's a fringe starter which is pretty fucking dumb.

wtf has he done to make u so crazy about him? he's played a bunch for the broncos and produced very little. also suffered a serious injury. i'm not going to sit here and act like he's better than he is

I like the way this is going. From fringe starter to nothing special to not worth $5-8m. Guess what? Moore is a solid starter who probably doesn't deserve that much but will command it in FA because of the scarcity of true FS's. But that's still a long way from some off-the-wall crap like calling him a fringe starter.

In comment 12167323 area junc said:

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In comment 12167313 2ndroundKO said: Quote: Like who, OBJ? You said he's a fringe starter which is pretty fucking dumb. wtf has he done to make u so crazy about him? he's played a bunch for the broncos and produced very little. also suffered a serious injury. i'm not going to sit here and act like he's better than he is

WTF has he done to make you say stupid sh*t like he's a fringe starter? Stevie Brown is a fringe starter.

soft, doesn't make many plays on the ball. decent centerfielder type. what am i missing?

In comment 12167319 area junc said:

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wouldn't "Help" but he is not a $5-$8M player. sorry

Rare is the free agent that's actually worth the contract he gets. They're all overpaid. You're not just paying the player's value, you're paying to beat other offers.

Rolle was at one point the highest paid safety in the NFL.

In comment 12167326 area junc said:

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soft, doesn't make many plays on the ball. decent centerfielder type. what am i missing?

Five ints last year means doesn't "make many plays on the ball." How many would suffice for you? Moore gave up one receptions very 41 snaps last year, good for sixth best among safeties. So please explain to us this plays on the ball nonsense you're talking about. Sounds like you pulled it from the same place you pulled the "fringe starter" crap from.

In comment 12167319 area junc said:

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wouldn't "Help" but he is not a $5-$8M player. sorry

No but when you don't draft and have the talent young and cheap you gotta pay, it the way of the business.

In comment 12167311 area junc said:

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he's nothing special don't you?

What does Tom think?

...is that we have absolutely no idea whether Cooper Taylor and Nat Berhe are good, bad or indifferent. So it's hard to project the upgrade any UFA would represent. If you go by what those guys have accomplished to date, the upgrade is huge and Moore is worth a lot.

Only a bit more from Berhe. Anybody thinking otherwise will only be disappointed.

to sign both. Would be expensive but necessary.

In comment 12167425 Ed A. said:

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to sign both. Would be expensive but necessary.

I'm thinking if we get 2 the 2nd will be Jeromy Miles...less expensive.

Miles plays ss

..... but I want #26 back.

Trel is a leader, and leadership matters.

Compartment syndrome carries a 10-15% chance of recurrence...and that's for normal people that don't go stressing it like professional athletes. No big contracts for career ending injury risks.

and if I'm GM, I'm not spending anywhere near those figures on either player.

they're probably worth closer to $10M.

and with fewer roster holes, then they could gamble a bit more. But roster as is, overspending is a double whammy.

Prior to watching them individually I thought McCourty was the better player. After watching them recently I think Moore is a better player. Doesn't have the best defensive mind maybe ever coaching him. I think he is a better tackler, better Blitzer, harder hitter & just as good in coverage as McCourty. He can cover half the field and when he gets to a receiver on the sideline he let's them know it's his field. He put a hurting on Hakeem Nicks & a Rams WR on the sideline. Idk if I've ever seen McCourty really put a good hit on a receiver. Moore certainly does. Which we haven't had in a long time.

Moore in the right scheme will be a better player then McCourty. I think him with a healthy Prince & DRC would be scary. Hopefully we can go out and get Da'Norris Searcy also. Would be a very good young secondary.

In comment 12167327 Ten Ton Hammer said:

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In comment 12167319 area junc said: Quote: wouldn't "Help" but he is not a $5-$8M player. sorry Rare is the free agent that's actually worth the contract he gets. They're all overpaid. You're not just paying the player's value, you're paying to beat other offers. Rolle was at one point the highest paid safety in the NFL.

Well said. Also if you sign him you're hoping he gets even better. Dude is just turned 25 a couple weeks ago. Many times you're also paying for potential in FA. I think Rolle is an example, every thought he was way overpaid, just a good player recently converted to safety. I think we'd agree he earned every cent of that contract. They signed a good player as he entered his prime, hoping he can become very good.

Beatty also signed with the hope buy a guy on the ascent.

Rather than paying top dollar for a player at his peak.

In comment 12167333 Giantfootball025 said:

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In comment 12167319 area junc said: Quote: wouldn't "Help" but he is not a $5-$8M player. sorry No but when you don't draft and have the talent young and cheap you gotta pay, it the way of the business.

And this. when you do sign a FA, its expected the guy will probably be overpaid, and/or paid for what you project a guy to become. Solution is draft better, FA has to be a supplement to be sustainable

In comment 12167582 Gmen4Life21 said:

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In comment 12167327 Ten Ton Hammer said: Quote: In comment 12167319 area junc said: Quote: wouldn't "Help" but he is not a $5-$8M player. sorry Rare is the free agent that's actually worth the contract he gets. They're all overpaid. You're not just paying the player's value, you're paying to beat other offers. Rolle was at one point the highest paid safety in the NFL. Well said. Also if you sign him you're hoping he gets even better. Dude is just turned 25 a couple weeks ago. Many times you're also paying for potential in FA. I think Rolle is an example, every thought he was way overpaid, just a good player recently converted to safety. I think we'd agree he earned every cent of that contract. They signed a good player as he entered his prime, hoping he can become very good. Beatty also signed with the hope buy a guy on the ascent. Rather than paying top dollar for a player at his peak.

Nice post.

Moore is an obvious target for the Giants IMO. As much as I like McCourty I'm surprised to hear we're going to try and pony up $10m after the deal we gave DRC last year. If Moore's range is $5-8m, the Giants could make a competitive offer on the lower end of that scale. Moore is a good player just entering his prime. A solid citizen who practices as hard as he plays. And played a full season (and played it well) coming off a serious injury. He's a pretty good consolation prize. Then add another S either in the draft or FA who can compete with Brown, Behre and Taylor.

Only 26 and a great special teams player

if the Pats are letting him walk, you would have to think that it is because McCourty wants $10mm and they feel that they need to spend that money elsewhere.

Sign Suh.

In comment 12167319 area junc said:

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wouldn't "Help" but he is not a $5-$8M player. sorry

Given the dearth of Safeties in both FA and the draft, what any FA Safety gets this year is simply a matter of supply (limited) and demand (very high).

Cut Amukamara and Rodgers-Cromartie. Sign Suh!

Stacy Robinson.
Cut Beckham and Cruz. Sign Suh!!

Jeff Hostetler.
Cut Eli. Sign Suh!!!