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Anyone surprised/concerned we didn't pursue a serious OL?

Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/12/2015 8:50 am
I know...I know...it's early...and we still have the draft.

But Marshall Newhouse?

My gut also tells me we're not going OL at #9 either, but obviously I could be wrong about that.
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RE: Not surprised in the least Look at Reese's quotes  
djm : 3/12/2015 11:46 am : link
In comment 12178731 BigBlueCane said:
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he's proven consistently he doesn't value OL as much as he does 'playmakers'.

Because he's an imbecile.

They needed at least 2-3 OL this year. One to start right away, one that can be ready to step in case Beatty drops off the cliff. And one in case Schwartz/Pugh struggle going forward.


IF Reese didn't value OL like you say, the Giants wouldn't pay the OL half the money they ACTUALLY have paid out over the years, including this coming season. And I am sure they will sign a vet OL to decent money these next few weeks.

They draft OL in round 1 and 2 the last TWO years---they pay the guard last offseason one of the biggest contracts given to OL at the time and they gave Beatty a small fortune after giving guys like Snee, Diehl and Mckenzie small fortunes.

Stop. Making. Shit. Up. The Giants devout huge financial and draft resources to the OL and will continue to do so.
I would not call Reese an  
rocco8112 : 3/12/2015 11:46 am : link
imbecile yet, but I would not jump down someone's throat who has. O line should be priority number one and if that is a sentiment not shared by the Giants' front office then he should be replaced.

With Eli you do not even need an elite o line. If the Giants get elite O line play with they might win the whole thing. Just get a functional o line filled with legit starters at the NFL level and the team will be competitive.

I am starting to get the feeling  
chopperhatch : 3/12/2015 11:47 am : link
There is a LT they are targeting at pick 40. If they got Fowler or a wideout at 9, and then grabbed Fischer, Humphries, Clemmings or Flowers at 40, i would love that.

Kevin White or Fowler or Beasley at 9 and any of those guys at 40 would make me very happy.
Definitely think  
bc4life : 3/12/2015 11:47 am : link
OL is a feinite possibility at #9. I'd be pretty surprised if Peat and/or Collins, maybe even Scherff is there and Reese doesn't bite.

we just paid money to pick up the same players as last year  
SHO'NUFF : 3/12/2015 11:58 am : link
so... yeah... i'm a bit concerned.
probably more concerned  
bc4life : 3/12/2015 12:01 pm : link
that Schwartz is still not healed.
I am a bit surprised that  
Lionhart28 : 3/12/2015 12:31 pm : link
we haven't signed a starting caliber OL yet. However, I am more surprised we haven't done much on the other side of the ball. Do you guys remember how badly the defense was last year? You can't expect Spags scheme to magically fix that.
RE: If they don't go OL in top of draft  
OC2.0 : 3/12/2015 12:33 pm : link
In comment 12178517 micky said:
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Then I guess OBJ and co. will be twittling their thumbs watching their QB watching the sky.


Doubt that. I read somewhere, iirc, we were 10 in pass pro. We need to plug in a quality LG somehow & we should be alright.

OL, DL, S  
moespree : 3/12/2015 12:35 pm : link
Has me concerned at the moment. There is little depth at DL, the OL it seems is being banked on that everyone already on the team takes another step forward next season, and there is virtually nothing at S.

I'm not going to hurl myself off a bridge or write 45 posts complaining about Reese though. But it is concerning at the moment. But it is March 12 too.
RE: probably more concerned  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/12/2015 12:37 pm : link
In comment 12178821 bc4life said:
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that Schwartz is still not healed.


Seems like he's going okay.

Pins removed! Oh yeaaaa! One step closer to full recovery. Feeling great. Can't wait to be back w/my @Giants teammates helping us win!
10:22 AM - 24 Feb 2015
Reese & co probably aren't impressed with the vet OL FAs out there  
cosmicj : 3/12/2015 12:45 pm : link
That means that we will likely be constrained by need going into the draft and will need to draft an OL in the first 2 rounds, maybe waiting until the third at the very latest.

Recent mocks indicate that there are going to be some very highly-rated interior OL prospects available in the early 2nd rd. I think the sum total of pro personnel and college talent evaluation is taking us right to that spot. Fortunately for the Giants, it's a good spot due to the ample red-chip G talent available.
I'm baffled we did not go harder after an OL  
Sonic Youth : 3/12/2015 1:51 pm : link
It doesn't seem that we had any interest in Bulaga, Iupati, or the OG who signed with the Jets (his name is escaping me).

This is going to hamstring us in the 1st and 2nd round.

The OL isn't just the biggest problem with the offense - it's the biggest problem with the team (IMO). And we've done essentially nothing to address it.

One of our starters WILL go down, and we will be screwed - again - because of the lack of a decent O-line.
exactly what Sonic said  
idiotsavant : 3/12/2015 2:07 pm : link
- last year at this time people were split between 're-build' and 'now'.

I said prior to the draft (pie) something to the effect that, 'watch out' if we grab a WR in 1 you might be in for a long year.

Due to the positional value prospects that year and the wide number of needs to get to a balanced type team.

This year it will also be hard to find a balanced type team, for us: one with very strong line play on both sides.

This is a trend going back to the Jim Fassell days if not before. Treating the OL like an afterthought....and now the DL as well.
I would be surprised  
Lithium : 3/12/2015 2:16 pm : link
if they actually went out and signed a quality olineman. As of now, Jerry and that Canadian will battle it out, and they will hope Schwartz can actually play in 2 consecutive games.
I would apologize for my post  
BigBlueCane : 3/12/2015 2:51 pm : link
but I'm not going to. Reese was supremely lucky to have Coughlin as his coach and Flaherty as his OL coach. He wasted lots of money in Free Agency trying to re-capture that original FA haul and has had so-so results to show for it.

Reese is a fool as a GM and unfortunately it's going to cost Coughlin his job from what I've seen.
Reese insisting on a "playmaker" over offensive line  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/12/2015 2:53 pm : link
just saved Tom Coughlin's job last season.
RE: I would be surprised  
SGMen : 3/12/2015 3:00 pm : link
In comment 12179338 Lithium said:
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if they actually went out and signed a quality olineman. As of now, Jerry and that Canadian will battle it out, and they will hope Schwartz can actually play in 2 consecutive games.
Do you know that I'm quietly hoping the Canadian has an "out of nowhere" starter season and plays at a superb level for us. If both he and Richburg can pull our run game will be much improved.
Why do people think Jerry Reese  
arniefez : 3/12/2015 3:03 pm : link
has a larger say who the Giants draft than Tom Coughlin? There is nothing to indicate that's the case.
I'm shocked that at the very  
giantgiantfan : 3/12/2015 3:36 pm : link
least a middle of the road OG or RT (who can play G) was not brought in. Still some time left though in FA, draft, and June cuts.
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