In judging NFL contracts, what matters is the money that's either guaranteed or effectively locked in by the prospect of a massive dead money hit. Of the six significant contracts given to unrestricted free agents by the Giants this week, none will tie the team's hands much, beyond the initial guarantees. (Thomas and Vereen are slight exceptions, and even those are debatable.) Here's how I see them:
Dwayne Harris
Guaranteed money: $7,100,000
Feasible exit: 2017
Annual comp prior to early exit: $4,000,000 ($8,000,000 over 2 years)
Dead money at early exit: $2,400,000
J.T. Thomas
Guaranteed money: $4,500,000
Feasible exit: 2017 (sort of feasible in 2016, but painful)
Annual comp prior to early exit: $3,500,000 ($7,000,000 over 2 years)
Dead money at early exit: $1,000,000
Shane Vereen
Guaranteed money: $4,750,000
Feasible exit: 2016 (could make a case for 2017)
Annual comp prior to exit: $4,850,000 (1 year)
Dead money at early exit: $2,333,334
Jonathan Casillas
Guaranteed money: $2,975,000
Feasible exit: 2016
Annual comp prior to early exit: $3,000,000 (1 year)
Dead money at early exit: $1,333,334
Marshall Newhouse
Guaranteed money: $1,000,000
Feasible exit: 2016
Annual comp prior to early exit: $1,725,000 (1 year)
Dead money at early exit: $400,000
Mark Herzlich
Guaranteed money: $400,000
Feasible exit: 2015
Annual comp prior to early exit: N/A (0 years)
Dead money at early exit: $450,000
I prefer annual comp to salaries because it smooths out the wild, year-to-year variations in NFL contracts. The common mistake made with annual comp, IMHO, is to include the years after the player becomes an easy cut. At that point, his salary is no longer a commitment; it's more of a call option that the team holds on his services. So, for example, the one part of Colin Kaepernick's contract that doesn't suck for the 49ers is the $45MM he's due in 2019 and 2020. If the team doesn't think he's worth it, they don't have to pay him.
Viewed in this light, the Giants have made a relatively small investment to fix a glaring hole in the middle section of their roster, the guys who would definitely dress tomorrow if there were a game, but who aren't expected to carry the team. The plausible best case for these signings is roughly as follows:
- On offense, Vereen will be a major contributor, Harris will play a significant supporting role as a receiver and blocker, and Newhouse will provide insurance as a decent swing tackle and extra goal-line blocker;
- On defense, Thomas and Casillas will both be prominent in certain packages, with at least one of them vying for a three-down role;
- On specials, where the impact should be greatest, Harris, Casillas and Thomas immediately become Quinn's best players, while Herzlich provides continuity, leadership and even a bit of skill.
Now, you can argue that the roles these signees will play ought to be filled with cheap bodies on their rookie contracts. In a perfect world, that's surely true. If Jayron Hosley's special-teams dynamism had translated from V-Tech to the NFL, and if Victor Cruz or Rueben Randle were a sure thing, Dwayne Harris wouldn't be a Giant today. If Brandon Mosley had offered any basis for confidence as a backup tackle, Marshall Newhouse would be unnecessary. If the Giants had used their fifth-round pick in 2012 on Danny Trevathan instead of trading it for Keith Rivers, or their 2013 fourth rounder on Gerald Hodges instead of trading up for Ryan Nassib, maybe they wouldn't be the market-makers for marginal linebackers. (Keeping in mind that Trevathan is currently rehabbing from surgery, Nassib is a fairly important Giant, and tons of other linebackers drafted in 2012 and 2013 have done nothing in the NFL.)
But hey - we are where we are. So Reese and Abrams have paid the price for Marc Ross's sins. One essential ingredient of good management is admitting mistakes and adapting plans to changed circumstances. Have the Giants overpaid? There's no way to know how competitive the bidding may have been for any of these players. To me, if anything close to the best case above materializes, the money is pretty well spent, even if the prices seem inflated. It's an auction market, and the greatest fool wins, not the smartest bidder.
And what about the worst case? If they are busts (for whatever reason), all six players can be gone in two years, and completely off the books after three years, with approximate total "smoothed" costs as follows:
2015: $17MM (Five active players plus dead money for Herzlich)
2016: $11MM (Two active players plus dead money for Vereen, Casillas and Newhouse)
2017: $3.4MM (Dead money for Harris and Thomas)
2018: $0
Would that outcome stink? Sure - on the ledger and on the field. But if the alternative is to stew over what Marc Ross might have done in the 2012 and 2013 drafts, I'll take the risk.
My only gripe to this point is bypassing the S & DL markets (to this point). Put Knighton and Moore on the field for their combined 6M or so and we're sitting pretty at the draft with the ability to really be flexible with #9. Heck, add Justin Blalock/Vince Wilfork/Ron Parker and that's still the case.
I'd say that if David Wilson wasn't injured and out of football, and Trinton Holliday or any of his counterparts had panned out last year - then Dawyne Harris wouldn't be a Giant today - I don't think Victor Cruz or Ruben Randle have anything to do with it -- Reese/Coughlin have been trying to sign a home run hitter for returns for a while now.
other than that -- I think your assessment is right on!!!
I also think Dwayne Harris is going to offer a lot more offensively than people here think.
is it a death knell? no. but good organizations dont have to spend that kind of $$$ to fill those roles.
Gidiefor- I think you are both right. Questionable status of Cruz gave the added value for Harris.
2015: $17.5MM for five players + Herzlich's off-season money
2016: $7.5MM for just Harris and Thomas remaining
I have to look at the value of these signings as separate from the angst over the positions that haven't been addressed (yet), such as safety.
These signings are good. That's a separate issue from the fact that the Giants are not looking good at safety; and the DL and OL need help too.
To me the questions with these signings are did they have to happen when they did? And was there a market for these guys that required the Giants to get them at these prices in the first day or two of free agency? I have to assume the answer to the questions is yes. Vereen excepted, but these otherwise seem like the types of moves you announce without big hoopla after the first, immediate rush of signings occur. If we get Parker and a DT at the end of the free agency period when the pre-draft roster is ready to go, the complete picture can be viewed.
Exactly. Nothing exists in a vacuum. If Kenny Phillips had stayed healthy would we have signed Antrel Rolle (making him the highest paid Safety in the league)? You could go crazy with this stuff.
Completely agree. Coughlin said it over again - need to get better running the ball and stopping the run. Or in other words, improve both trenches. It's shocking to me that adding meaningful contributors in either of those areas wasn't a top priority. But, there is still time and if they were to add some combo of Blalock/Wilfork/Red Bryant/Ron Parker it would certainly help.
Year -- Active Pay -- Dead Money --- Total
2015 .. $9,308,332 ..... $250,000 ... $9,558,332
2016 .. $7,800,000 .. $4,266,668 . $12,066,668
2017 .................$0 .. $3,400,000 ... $3,400,000
Total.............................................. $25,025,000
Even in this worst case (they all fail to play up to their contracts, and get cut as soon as it's financially beneficial), the only year with significant cap pain is 2016: $12MM in cap space, with only Harris and Thomas to show for it.
It's hard to imagine that these six contracts will significantly constrain the Giants, in the near term or thereafter.
Personally, I am holding out hope Prince, Eli and JPP all sign fair long-term deals and our issues are set for next year.
That contract perfectly illustrates the importance of focusing on guaranteed money. But my snarky jab at the 49ers was unjustified.
Aw, shucks. We were doing so well with the intelligent football discussion too.
Teams that give away their first rounder (bare in mind Wilson was a 32nd pick) better think long and hard about it. Time and again we see just how critical that selection can be.
is it a death knell? no. but good organizations dont have to spend that kind of $$$ to fill those roles.
Fair enough, but the fact is there isn't much out there that can help us outside of the draft and relying on a perfect rookie class to bridge the gap between 6-10 and playoff aspirations is a fool's errand given Reese's up and drafts here. There is undoubtedly bad injury "luck" in many of our recent picks who burned out too early but that's also a part of the process we aren't handling well.
The safety from LSU, car crash, ok not predictable. David Wilson had a condition in college and it forced his early retirement. This was a known issue, we ignored it and rolled the dice and lost. Terrell Thomas, Kenny Phillips, same thing almost exactly. Phillips had signs of degenerative knee issues we chose to be ok with and he washed out far too early. Cooper Taylor, who somehow is now really good because he's on the roster, was a one man MASH unit in college and we're ok with that. He's barely stayed healthy, there were signs that may be the case and we chose to roll the dice again anyway.
Throw in the fact that until Devon Kennard, and he's far from a sure thing, we have no ability to identify and develop LB talent. Our DL is now razor thin with two proven starters only. Safety? We don't have Stevie Brown back yet, he now has all the leverage because we have nothing in place so we'll overpay a guy who slumped badly last year after sitting out the previous one with an ACL tear. How on earth will this defense be any better? Spags isn't a magician, he can't make our talent deficiencies disappear and we have a large number of them, not one or two.
We're counting on Victor Cruz to come back at age 28 from a devastating knee injury, I hope he does but that's what we're hanging our hats on offensively? That and a 3rd down back? We couldn't block last year to save our lives on the ground, now Vereen and Richburg to C will change all of that? I still see a very decayed roster devoid of solid talent with a few elite players, some has beens and a bunch of never will bes. One draft and a few vet cuts will fix that?
I think it's time for this fan base to be realistic and understand that we are still a bad team and need two more off-seasons (this one included) to really have a chance to compete and our franchise QB isn't getting any younger. We have one player truly worth being excited about, some we hope we can bounce back and whole lot who better way outperform their pasts. I think we're rebuilding, and I'm OK with that but why this fan base refuses to accept it is beyond me.