What about Brett Jones?

The Giants can't and won't alter their draft plans due to the arrival of Jones. With that said I loved the signing at the time and I think he has a nice ceiling but he is most likely going to be redshirted this year if he makes the team.

I think thats a fair and balanced post on the subject

I believe he will start from day one at guard.

from the looks of his resume he is a player. Too me we got a high draft pick interior OL, if you want to factor in youth.

Career highlights and awards:

Grey Cup champion (2014)
2013 - CFL's Most Outstanding Rookie Award
2013 - Jackie Parker Trophy
2014 - CFL's Most Outstanding Offensive Lineman Award
CFL All-Star: 2014
CFL West All-Star: 2014

https://web.archive.org/web/20141128034300/http://cfl.ca/article/awards-streak-jones-takes-home-second-straight-award

In comment 12196210 Pep22 said:

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I think thats a fair and balanced post on the subject

Thank you and I really did love the signing I like that the Giants are exploring all options to improve the talent along the OL. Now Jones admittedly knows he has a long way to go but he has the attitude to succeed. He will be closely watched by me during the preseason but I would be shocked if he earns a starting job.

Its unclear if he even makes the team right now.

expecting him to start this season is setting yourself up for disappointment. He needs a year to refine his technique and to get stronger in and NFL strength and conditioning program. He also has to get used to defensive linemen being closer to him than he was accustomed to in Canada.

so I think there's no question about his having what it takes to make the team. The question is does he have what it takes to start in the nfl and will he be ready to do that this year. There's no way of knowing before pre-season.

I'm not getting my hopes up yet, but is it far fetched to expect Brett Jones to have as good a chance to make the lineup as, say, a lineman we draft in the second round or lower?

No guaranteed money in the contract. If he pans out great if not no BFD.

Exactly.

To your question, I could answer two ways:

1. No, not as good a chance as a second round pick in the upcoming draft IF we do nothing else in FA and draft Cann or Thomlinson in Rd 2.

2. Yes/maybe, if we do not dsign a Tier 2 OG in FA and only draft Marpet in Rd 3.

Tough to say in a vacuum.

I would hope this is not the plan. Johnny Boy stated the oline needed significant improvements. I hope Newhorse, Jerry, and the Canadian are not the improvements.

In comment 12196279 Jay on the Island said:

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expecting him to start this season is setting yourself up for disappointment. He needs a year to refine his technique and to get stronger in and NFL strength and conditioning program. He also has to get used to defensive linemen being closer to him than he was accustomed to in Canada.

Jay, if he starts at OG the yard is immaterial, since NFL OGs are generally almost a yard behind the C when they line up. To me the issue is whether he can pull and anchor as well as is needed against NFL DTs.

Jones is coming from the CFL, he's got a sizable leap to the NFL to navigate.

If he wins the backup C gig, it's a good start for all.

For me it's so hard to judge that. Would some of their teams defeat a top SEC team? Who the heck knows? I'd guess NFL front offices do, but I sure don't. What do you think?

8 or more clubs tried to grab him,
BJ can block

I honestly don't know, it's a good question. CFL is generally considered professional football, but not at the same level as the NFL.

In comment 12196535 JonC said:

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I honestly don't know, it's a good question. CFL is generally considered professional football, but not at the same level as the NFL.

To me that's the question here. An OL who first wins rookie of the year and then the OL of the year awards in a pro league is pretty impressive, depending upon the level of competition. La'el Collins won it in the SEC, Scherff won the Outland Trophy. It's hard to know how Jones compares, but he totally dominated the guys across from him.

I'm not saying this means anything, but my sense Brett Jones being the best
in the CFL is not so far out of his element
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If the Giants are real lucky, he will make the 53-man roster and be the second backup (behind Jerry) at guard and the 3rd backup (behind Reynolds) at center.

If he can long snap, maybe he will compete with DeOssie.

In comment 12196601 Ivan15 said:

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If the Giants are real lucky, he will make the 53-man roster and be the second backup (behind Jerry) at guard and the 3rd backup (behind Reynolds) at center. If he can long snap, maybe he will compete with DeOssie.

Can you give us some insight into how you came to that conclusion? Because you offered nothing to back up those opinions. You could be right, but educate us as to what makes you so sure of his talent level.

In comment 12196496 yatqb said:

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For me it's so hard to judge that. Would some of their teams defeat a top SEC team? Who the heck knows? I'd guess NFL front offices do, but I sure don't. What do you think?

It's really hard to say whether grown men -professionals- would beat college kids?

Most of those guys played at US colleges, too.

In comment 12196604 yatqb said:

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In comment 12196601 Ivan15 said: Quote: If the Giants are real lucky, he will make the 53-man roster and be the second backup (behind Jerry) at guard and the 3rd backup (behind Reynolds) at center. If he can long snap, maybe he will compete with DeOssie. Can you give us some insight into how you came to that conclusion? Because you offered nothing to back up those opinions. You could be right, but educate us as to what makes you so sure of his talent level.

Yea I don't get this either. I liked him on tape, but if anything, he is an URFA from an SEC school....maybe.

So basically you're saying any SEC offensive lineman drafted in the 5th round would be the offensive lineman of the year in the CFL. Really?

In comment 12196626 WillieYoung said:

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So basically you're saying any SEC offensive lineman drafted in the 5th round would be the offensive lineman of the year in the CFL. Really?

Willie, that was Ivan15 saying that. I asked him to back up his comments...so far crickets, but I'm patient.

Sorry. P.S. Cameron Wake was CFL defensive player of the year and went to 3 pro bowls after being signed by Miami. We can dream...

but will I'd be surprised if he won a starting role? No

Brett Jones

snickers : 3/15/2015 3:14 pm

FWIW I was involved in a discussion with someone who is very close to the Calgary coaching staff and brought up the name of Brett Jones. Reaction was quite positive from this former CFL player towards Jones. Described Jones as a tough nosed, well anchoring lineman who rarely gets beat by any lineman that he faces. Very bright and able to make the line calls that are required. Projects well according to him as a good guard and feels that he has enough mobility to pull if required. Definitely sees him as capable of playing in the NFL and would not be surprised if he were on the opening day roster. He does agree that there is an adjustment period required but believes Jones to have the same demeanor as DD who many of us really liked. That is all for now, but will chat with this former player again soon and if other info. comes along will pass it on.

It'd be unrealistic to think he will start for us for any period of time.

player for us. I still hope that we draft an OL very early. A guy like Scherff, who could play OG or OT, is appealing to me.

but I think some on this thread have a false sense of modern NCAA division I football. NCAA is very watered down compared to past decades. I don't want to rain on any Buckeyes parade but that team didn't seem all that impressive. I admit that I seldom follow CFL teams unless it is for a player I like that went undrafted but I have a difficult time believing that one of their teams can't match up with a powerhouse like Kent State.

is impressive. By all accounts he dominated as a rookie. He will get every opportunity to prove himself in camp. Starting this year might be setting the bar a bit high, but get a year under his belt and I think he could start. A promising young player, a great sign.