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ZGiants98 : 3/23/2015 9:44 am
Degrom Day!

Rotation has been announced for regular season.

Bartolo Colon 4/6 (Opening Day) Jacob deGrom /8 Matt Harvey /9 Jon Niese /10 Dillon Gee /11 Colon /12 deGrom /13 (Home) Harvey /14
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Pretty funny  
gmen9892 : 3/23/2015 9:46 am : link
That they are lining up our best starter to pitch the second home game. Mets brass wanting to sell out 2 games in a row. Such a joke.
Watched my first spring game yesterday  
sjnyfan : 3/23/2015 9:49 am : link
Man that was great to see.
Im in the minority  
ZGiants98 : 3/23/2015 9:59 am : link
But I love the way the rotation is set up. I think having the veteran going against the Nats in game one is pretty cool. Gotta feel nerves will be high, the Nats will be trying to impress in front of their home crowd with expectations through the roof. Having the wily veteran throwing his 2 seamer could use all of that to his advantage. PLUS you got Harvey and deGrom in the Nats series PLUS you have deGrom and Harvey opening the first two games at home. Works for me.
i like that setup  
sshin05 : 3/23/2015 10:08 am : link
a lot, man opening day can't come soon enough
I dont mind the setup at all...  
Italianju : 3/23/2015 10:10 am : link
but it is pretty obvious that they want the back to back sell outs. No other reason to have your best pitcher pitch the third game of the year.

Again im fine with it, since i dont think it matters all that much.
Game not televised?  
Torrag : 3/23/2015 10:14 am : link
?
Agreed.  
ZGiants98 : 3/23/2015 10:14 am : link
But I don't see a thing wrong with it. From a marketing standpoint, it makes ZERO sense not to do that. And honestly it feels like they are throwing us a bone anyway. If they really want to cash in, they would have Gee pitch the home opener, and then slot deGrom in game two, and Harvey in game three and sell out all three games. At least they are opening the series with deGrom(which they really don't have to do.)
Another thing about the rotation  
Mike in NY : 3/23/2015 10:18 am : link
If there are no postponed games, the weekend series against the Yankees would have 2-3-4 in our rotation. By setting up the rotation this way that means you have deGrom-Harvey-Niese going against the Yankees
lineup ... no DH  
sphinx : 3/23/2015 10:18 am : link
Surprised  
ZGiants98 : 3/23/2015 10:24 am : link
Collins doesn't have Flores starting and playing 9 innings today! ;)
9  
DanMetroMan : 3/23/2015 10:30 am : link
dollar ticket deal
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I wonder why they think people wouldn't come out to see DeGrom  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/23/2015 10:31 am : link
pitch the second game? He's already a fan favorite and won the freaking rookie of the year award.
I believe Alderson said  
Rich on LI : 3/23/2015 10:40 am : link
that they didn't want Harvey to get to "amped" up
by starting him on opening day.
Is there any way that Tejada doesn't make this team?  
No Where Man : 3/23/2015 10:44 am : link
I really don't want his apathetic losing culture on this team.
RE: 9  
Mike in NY : 3/23/2015 11:01 am : link
In comment 12198724 DanMetroMan said:
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Looking at the schedule assuming no postponed games the 18th gets you Jacob deGrom but all of the others are Colon, Niese or Gee
Why not let Reynolds continue  
Rflairr : 3/23/2015 11:19 am : link
to get the playing time at 2b. He looked good over there yesterday
RE: Why not let Reynolds continue  
Mike in NY : 3/23/2015 11:27 am : link
In comment 12198835 Rflairr said:
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to get the playing time at 2b. He looked good over there yesterday


Both he and Muno have done well in camp so since Reynolds played yesterday they are giving Muno a shot today. Personally I would have played Reynolds at SS, but Terry Collins cannot let hit his love for Tejada go
RE: Why not let Reynolds continue  
Shecky : 3/23/2015 11:29 am : link
In comment 12198835 Rflairr said:
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to get the playing time at 2b. He looked good over there yesterday


Because if Murph is only a few days they prefer Muno
Yeah...  
ZGiants98 : 3/23/2015 12:05 pm : link
Id actually prefer Reynolds keep getting reps at SS playing every day in AAA as insurance. I think Murph makes it back opening day and all this is a non-issue.
Nice test for deGrom  
ZGiants98 : 3/23/2015 12:12 pm : link
today going against the Marlins A lineup pretty much.
RE: I believe Alderson said  
PhiPsi125 : 3/23/2015 12:16 pm : link
In comment 12198746 Rich on LI said:
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that they didn't want Harvey to get to "amped" up
by starting him on opening day.


Sandy can say whatever makes him feel better...this decision is 100% based on money and selling out a couple extra games. Harvey not getting "amped" up is just the GM-speak they are giving the media.
If you owned the team and knew you could get  
Headhunter : 3/23/2015 12:31 pm : link
20,000 extra fannies in the seats by not pitching Harvey on Opening Day, you wouldn't do it?
We will increase payroll when attendance goes up  
Shecky : 3/23/2015 12:31 pm : link
20 % increase in ticket sales. Now add another 30,000 with Harvey on day two.

See. We told you when attendance increases we will increase payroll...
Harvey  
DanMetroMan : 3/23/2015 12:36 pm : link
will be over the moon amped up regardless of when he makes his first start. We all know this is about revenue. 2013 and 2014 they drew more for opening day than games 2 and 3... combined.
Rubin-  
DanMetroMan : 3/23/2015 12:39 pm : link
Analysis: Alderson identified Reynolds and fellow prospect Danny Muno as the candidates to start at second base if Murphy opens the season on the DL. Alderson glaringly omitted Ruben Tejada, which is telling, since Alderson's opinion matters most. Still, a team insider insisted new hitting coach Kevin Long really likes what he has seen out of Tejada this spring training, so Tejada is not disqualified from being a candidate. If it comes down to Reynolds or Muno as a starter in Murphy's absence, the Mets are likely to keep Reynolds. The insider added that if it were Reynolds versus Muno for a bench spot with Tejada as the second-base starter, the club prefers the backup role go to Muno, with Reynolds at Triple-A Las Vegas, since they want Reynolds regularly playing somewhere.
Rubin  
DanMetroMan : 3/23/2015 12:41 pm : link
doesn't have Puello even in the running to make the team. Projects the bench to be

Bench

Anthony Recker, C

Tejada, SS/2B

John Mayberry Jr., 1B/OF

Kirk Nieuwenhuis, OF

Eric Campbell, IF/OF


With Muno an outside shot at replacing Campbell
It's hard not to notice Tejada  
pjcas18 : 3/23/2015 12:41 pm : link
swinging the bat well this Spring. Maybe that's Long's influence, maybe it's just how players cycle (no PED intent meant).

He'll make a good backup/utility player who I hope we don't see a lot of.
Tejada has come in with the bat  
Headhunter : 3/23/2015 12:42 pm : link
but it's probably too late for most fans, can't get rid of the bad taste he has left. He will get a job somewhere
come on  
Headhunter : 3/23/2015 12:42 pm : link
.
Hard to argue that deGrom hasn't earned the second start  
steve in ky : 3/23/2015 12:44 pm : link
coming of last season and Harvey coming off surgery regardless of how terrific Harvey has looked this spring.
The projected lineup  
pjcas18 : 3/23/2015 12:45 pm : link
and rotation is entirely homegrown except:

TdA, Granderson, Cuddyer, and Colon.

HH you should be proud.

Even the bulk of the bench and bullpen are homegrown.
From  
DanMetroMan : 3/23/2015 12:48 pm : link
Rubin's projections 15 home grown players. The "nons"

Carlyle, Gilmartin, Colon, Black, Mayberry, Recker, Cuddyer, Granderson, TDA, Torres
It's  
DanMetroMan : 3/23/2015 12:49 pm : link
"better" that Kirk outplayed MDD given the fact he has options left. If MDD had a great spring and Kirk didn't it would have been tougher.
I thouight Recker  
pjcas18 : 3/23/2015 12:49 pm : link
was homegrown, he was my only ???

and even Black and TdA came through the Mets minors and never played in the majors for anyone else, so if you expand your definition at all, it's mostly career Mets.
RE: I thouight Recker  
DanMetroMan : 3/23/2015 12:50 pm : link
In comment 12199103 pjcas18 said:
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was homegrown, he was my only ???

and even Black and TdA came through the Mets minors and never played in the majors for anyone else, so if you expand your definition at all, it's mostly career Mets.


Recker has been with the A's and Cubs. Black pitched for the Pirates in the bigs.
TDA  
DanMetroMan : 3/23/2015 12:51 pm : link
never played for Toronto or the Phillies so hypothetically yeah you could include him. Black has appeared for another team.
Problem  
DanMetroMan : 3/23/2015 12:54 pm : link
I have including TDA is his development from 18-25 happened somewhere else. I mean if Gilmartin is good for the Mets are we going to include him? I know I wouldn't.
Oh, no I wouldn't include any of them  
pjcas18 : 3/23/2015 1:01 pm : link
that weren't drafted, I was just offering support to Headhunter who places more of an importance (or fondness I guess) on the homegrown players.

I like having homegrown players, mainly because it implies cost control and if the team is successful signs of a good FO, but I don't mind at all if the core is surrounded by FA's.

Like you Piazza is among my favorite Mets.

John Franco was for a while too (weird a relief pitcher is your favorite player, but some of those teams were devoid of personality - and talent).

I loved the Beltran and Johan signings, even Pedro when he was here.

Straw and Doc were my first two favorite athletes and that didn't work out so well, so as I have aged I've changed my views.
I  
DanMetroMan : 3/23/2015 1:10 pm : link
I had no idea Robert Brender is built like a pro-wrestler lol
deGrom gives up a 2 run bomb  
Headhunter : 3/23/2015 1:36 pm : link
to Michael Morse
deGrom  
DanMetroMan : 3/23/2015 1:37 pm : link
is human. Rough first with a lot of pitches.
This  
DanMetroMan : 3/23/2015 1:37 pm : link
is usually around the time some guys get dead arm so it's possible that's the case here (or just a bad inning).
Mike Morse  
pjcas18 : 3/23/2015 1:39 pm : link
is a big dude.

He made Cuddyer look small next to him.

Cuddyer is 6'2 220 pounds.
RE: Mike Morse  
DanMetroMan : 3/23/2015 1:40 pm : link
In comment 12199245 pjcas18 said:
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is a big dude.

He made Cuddyer look small next to him.

Cuddyer is 6'2 220 pounds.


Came up as a SS... at 6'5 245
The  
DanMetroMan : 3/23/2015 1:41 pm : link
Mets can't afford 3.2 million for a solid reliever?


Mark Simon ‏@msimonespn 20m20 minutes ago

Reports are Mets are asking Orioles to pick up $ if they trade for Brian Matusz. If that's true, I wonder how tix sales are doing this yr
And they say Arod  
pjcas18 : 3/23/2015 1:42 pm : link
was too big for SS, Morse would be like an NFL DE playing SS.
Mark  
DanMetroMan : 3/23/2015 1:42 pm : link
Simon by the way is a MASSIVE Mets fan. He told me the Mets were the only team he would leave his current job to work for.
I'd rather pay the salary  
pjcas18 : 3/23/2015 1:43 pm : link
and give up less for Matusz.

If that's an option.
.  
DanMetroMan : 3/23/2015 1:43 pm : link
Adam Rubin ‏@AdamRubinESPN 39s39 seconds ago

Curtis Granderson RBI single. Eight straight have reached. #Mets 6, #Marlins 2, top 2
Mets offense  
ZGiants98 : 3/23/2015 1:44 pm : link
destroying everyone again. This time with only 4 starters.
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