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ZGiants98 : 3/23/2015 9:44 am
Degrom Day!

Rotation has been announced for regular season.

Bartolo Colon 4/6 (Opening Day) Jacob deGrom /8 Matt Harvey /9 Jon Niese /10 Dillon Gee /11 Colon /12 deGrom /13 (Home) Harvey /14
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If deGrom's  
pjcas18 : 3/23/2015 1:44 pm : link
arm is dead, they should bury Latos' arm. that thing is decomposing.
Latos  
DanMetroMan : 3/23/2015 1:44 pm : link
is a solid gamble for Miami but I think his goose may be cooked.
How much of this hitting is because it's just sprint training?  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/23/2015 1:45 pm : link
Think this can carry over?
RE: If deGrom's  
DanMetroMan : 3/23/2015 1:45 pm : link
In comment 12199259 pjcas18 said:
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arm is dead, they should bury Latos' arm. that thing is decomposing.


Latos looked diminished last year. He may be "done". It's only ST so maybe he figures it out but I purposely avoided him in all fantasy leagues.
RE: How much of this hitting is because it's just sprint training?  
DanMetroMan : 3/23/2015 1:46 pm : link
In comment 12199262 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Think this can carry over?


Hitters are always way ahead of pitchers. Just the way it is. I wouldn't take much out of it, though Granderson looks notably more "in control" in his ab's. TDA is the only one I'm sort of concerned about.
LOL.  
ZGiants98 : 3/23/2015 1:47 pm : link
Cuddyer again. ANOTHER HOMERUN! Wow. 8-2.
Lagares and Granderson's  
ZGiants98 : 3/23/2015 1:51 pm : link
approach and stance and everything about them look different this year. Lagares doesn't even look like the same player.

Wright and Cuddyer just look like their normal healthy selves.

Flores just looks like he's coming into his own.

Its easy to generalize and say bats are usually ahead of pitchers but the Mets are basically leading every single offensive category in baseball this year in spring training. They are doing better than most teams.
Opening day Scherzer  
Headhunter : 3/23/2015 2:01 pm : link
throws a no-hitter and the offense goes in a tail spin for the month of April:)
RE: If you owned the team and knew you could get  
PhiPsi125 : 3/23/2015 2:06 pm : link
In comment 12199045 Headhunter said:
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20,000 extra fannies in the seats by not pitching Harvey on Opening Day, you wouldn't do it?


HH, I never said I had a problem with the decision. Its a good business move. I could just do without the bullshit reason that EVERYBODY sees through. Thats all.
RE: RE: If you owned the team and knew you could get  
DanMetroMan : 3/23/2015 2:11 pm : link
In comment 12199313 PhiPsi125 said:
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20,000 extra fannies in the seats by not pitching Harvey on Opening Day, you wouldn't do it?



HH, I never said I had a problem with the decision. Its a good business move. I could just do without the bullshit reason that EVERYBODY sees through. Thats all.


In this case they really don't have much of an option. I mean what excuse WOULD be "buyable"? There is no chance they would admit it's ticket sales.
Nice  
DanMetroMan : 3/23/2015 2:12 pm : link
inning for deGrom.
RE: RE: RE: If you owned the team and knew you could get  
PhiPsi125 : 3/23/2015 2:29 pm : link
In comment 12199323 DanMetroMan said:
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20,000 extra fannies in the seats by not pitching Harvey on Opening Day, you wouldn't do it?



HH, I never said I had a problem with the decision. Its a good business move. I could just do without the bullshit reason that EVERYBODY sees through. Thats all.



In this case they really don't have much of an option. I mean what excuse WOULD be "buyable"? There is no chance they would admit it's ticket sales.


I understand that. I get why they are saying it. Its just, for a FO that has a history of talking out of both sides of their mouths, I'm just tired of the obvious lies. Not a huge deal...just something that bugs me that I dont experience with other teams I root for to this magnitude.
I'll have a good time  
Metnut : 3/23/2015 2:38 pm : link
at opening day, with either DeGrom/Harvey pitching, but I think it's clear what the front-office is doing here and I don't care for it.

I usually go to a dozen games, more when the team is better, and was planning on doing the same again this year. These sorts of tactics lead me to buy last minute tickets on stubhub, rather than buy tickets through the Mets.
Anthony Recker responding to the Monell challenge  
Headhunter : 3/23/2015 2:41 pm : link
with 3 doubles
Flores ditches the  
Headhunter : 3/23/2015 2:48 pm : link
walking boot. Collins is still a moron
Monell  
DanMetroMan : 3/23/2015 2:49 pm : link
isn't going to make the team (unless it's something nutty like 3rd catcher or Recker gets hurt). Recker has too much experience with the staff for Monell's hot spring to overtake that.
In tact there is no easy out 1-8  
Headhunter : 3/23/2015 2:55 pm : link
no more Chris Young Josh Satin John Buck Omar Qunitanella
pitcher, 5-6-7-8-9 drudgery and hopelessness
.  
DanMetroMan : 3/23/2015 2:55 pm : link
via Roch Kubatko:

* The Mets really do want left-hander Brian Matusz, but they're not picking up all $3.2 million of his contract. The Orioles would have to eat some salary.

http://www.masnsports.com/school-of-roc ... um=twitter
Muno  
Headhunter : 3/23/2015 2:59 pm : link
who might be our utility infielder goes deep
Nice to  
Metnut : 3/23/2015 3:01 pm : link
see DeGrom rebound after the bad first.

One more weekend of March Madness and then baseball starts with the NHL and NBA playoffs soon to follow. My favorite sports time of the year.
Soup  
Headhunter : 3/23/2015 3:02 pm : link
who hit one of the longer home runs yesterday with a triple. Long live Kevin Long
Same here metnut...  
Rich on LI : 3/23/2015 3:03 pm : link
I'll have a good time
at opening day, with either DeGrom/Harvey pitching

But I don't get why everyone gets so worked up about whether
this is a ploy by the front office for more ticket sales.
An argument can be made that DeGrom has earned the start.

This plays out the way I see it playing out  
Headhunter : 3/23/2015 3:05 pm : link
Friday nights in Citi Field are going to be rocking this summer
Howie had a good point  
Rflairr : 3/23/2015 3:05 pm : link
The Orioles have Verrett from the Rule V draft .Just pick up the whole contract. And let them keep Verrett without him having to be on the 25 man
RE: Same here metnut...  
PhiPsi125 : 3/23/2015 3:20 pm : link
In comment 12199429 Rich on LI said:
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I'll have a good time
at opening day, with either DeGrom/Harvey pitching

But I don't get why everyone gets so worked up about whether
this is a ploy by the front office for more ticket sales.
An argument can be made that DeGrom has earned the start.


I don't see anyone getting worked up about this. I think its just a turnoff when you are faced with cheap tactics and blatant lies. All for the hefty price of paying the highest ticket prices in MLB. Like I mentioned, I don't see other teams act like this to the degree that the Mets do. No biggie...still enjoy the games.
RE: Howie had a good point  
pjcas18 : 3/23/2015 3:30 pm : link
In comment 12199435 Rflairr said:
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The Orioles have Verrett from the Rule V draft .Just pick up the whole contract. And let them keep Verrett without him having to be on the 25 man


Can they do that? Technically the Mets would be trading a player they don't control.

I prefer the Mets pick up the salary instead of trading a better player like Ynoa or someone like that.
RE: RE: Howie had a good point  
Mike in NY : 3/23/2015 3:34 pm : link
In comment 12199487 pjcas18 said:
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The Orioles have Verrett from the Rule V draft .Just pick up the whole contract. And let them keep Verrett without him having to be on the 25 man



Can they do that? Technically the Mets would be trading a player they don't control.

I prefer the Mets pick up the salary instead of trading a better player like Ynoa or someone like that.


In lieu of offering him back to the Mets as would be required if he is not on the 25 man roster the Orioles can agree to trade someone else (or cash) to the Mets in exchange for Verrett so Baltimore could send him down to AAA
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pjcas18 : 3/23/2015 3:36 pm : link
In comment 12199492 Mike in NY said:
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The Orioles have Verrett from the Rule V draft .Just pick up the whole contract. And let them keep Verrett without him having to be on the 25 man



Can they do that? Technically the Mets would be trading a player they don't control.

I prefer the Mets pick up the salary instead of trading a better player like Ynoa or someone like that.



In lieu of offering him back to the Mets as would be required if he is not on the 25 man roster the Orioles can agree to trade someone else (or cash) to the Mets in exchange for Verrett so Baltimore could send him down to AAA


Right, but how would the trade be structured? Matusz to the Mets for cash considerations? or could they say "the rights to Logan Verrett". Maybe minor point, but I don't think I've ever seen a trade this way.

Maybe Matusz for "a potential player to be named later if the O's remove Verrett from their major league roster".

LOL.

It would technically be  
Mike in NY : 3/23/2015 3:40 pm : link
Matusz for the rights to Logan Verrett
RE: It would technically be  
pjcas18 : 3/23/2015 3:42 pm : link
In comment 12199498 Mike in NY said:
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Matusz for the rights to Logan Verrett


Can't say I've seen an MLB trade for a players rights. I'd do it if I were the Mets.

They left Verrett unprotected for a reason.

I think the O's would need more than that though, especially if they're eating any salary.
And yet another Mets  
ZGiants98 : 3/23/2015 3:57 pm : link
lefthander comes in. Chase Hitchingson with a scoreless frame. Didn't know he was in ML camp either.
It almost doesn't feel real that their biggest off season  
steve in ky : 3/23/2015 4:09 pm : link
acquisition in Cuddyer has been hitting so well to begin his Mets tenure. it has been so long since that has happened I almost expected him to start off really slow. Let's hope he carries it over to the start of the season.

one more thought: Whoever had the idea to hire Long deserves a big bonus.
RE: And yet another Mets  
DanMetroMan : 3/23/2015 4:15 pm : link
In comment 12199523 ZGiants98 said:
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lefthander comes in. Chase Hitchingson with a scoreless frame. Didn't know he was in ML camp either.


He isn't. Was borrowed. Crappy 2014 or maybe he would have been.
Cuddyer as long as he stays healthy will  
Headhunter : 3/23/2015 4:22 pm : link
hit
RE: RE: And yet another Mets  
ZGiants98 : 3/23/2015 4:47 pm : link
In comment 12199546 DanMetroMan said:
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lefthander comes in. Chase Hitchingson with a scoreless frame. Didn't know he was in ML camp either.



He isn't. Was borrowed. Crappy 2014 or maybe he would have been.


He was suspended for PEDs wasn't he? I think I remember reading he was lights out in the playoffs though.
RE: Cuddyer as long as he stays healthy will  
ZGiants98 : 3/23/2015 4:49 pm : link
In comment 12199555 Headhunter said:
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hit


Yup. Coors field, Not one of the best right-handed hitters in the game, blah blah blah. They'll see. ;)
I  
DanMetroMan : 3/23/2015 4:53 pm : link
believe he was suspended twice for "Drugs of abuse" much like Mazilli who will serve a drug of abuse suspension to open the season.
ZGiants  
DanMetroMan : 3/23/2015 4:55 pm : link
he pitched 2.1 innings in the playoffs (2 appearances) 1 hit, 1 walk 2 k's. Not exactly much of a sample size.
agreed.  
ZGiants98 : 3/23/2015 4:56 pm : link
Thanks. Not even sure where I remembered reading that.
Maz  
DanMetroMan : 3/23/2015 5:07 pm : link
went to rehab for weed. He's really a moron though as he's already behind the 8 ball given his age and then giving away 40% of a season? Bad enough as it is in a system with some 2b depth.
Judging how Collins had TDA actually hitting behind Flores yesterday  
ZGiants98 : 3/23/2015 5:21 pm : link
Im betting the opening day lineup(with Murphy) is...

1.) Lagares
2.) Granderson
3.) Wright
4.) Duda
5.) Cuddyer
6.) Murphy
7.) Flores
8.) TDA

I don't like TDA in the 8th hole but somebody's got to do it. Kind of worried his aggressive approach might hurt him in the 8 hole with pitchers pitching around him but I think he's smart enough to adjust in time.

What a lineup though.
When was the last time you were able to say  
Ira : 3/23/2015 5:37 pm : link
'What a lineup' about the Mets and mean it as a compliment?
It looks really strong.  
ZGiants98 : 3/23/2015 5:48 pm : link
Im so used to the Mets having streaky hitters too over the last 10-15 years. Before if Wright went cold, it would be almost impossible to score runs. Now 2-3 guys can be completely in the shitter for stretches( you know it will happen) and we won't skip a beat. I think that, more than any reason at all, is why I'd rather have 8 solid hitters then a really strong middle(2-3 guys).

Baseball is a game of streaks. Cant change it. All these guys will have their slumps this year.
We have real nice balance  
ZGiants98 : 3/23/2015 5:50 pm : link
all the way down the lineup and a nice strong bench. I keep saying it, but I think I like our hitting more than our pitching. lol.
Pretty cool Special  
ZGiants98 : 3/23/2015 5:52 pm : link
On Mets Insider (SNY) Tuesday on Cuddyer and how Wright influenced him to come to the Mets. He clearly wanted to come here. Money was no object.
LHR Joe Beimel  
sphinx : 3/23/2015 6:09 pm : link
Joel Sherman
#Rangers released vet LHR Joe Beimel. Was atrocious this spring But track record of success v LHs. Wonder if #Mets would give minor lge look

Joe Beimel  
ZGiants98 : 3/23/2015 6:12 pm : link
is back to being available. He was pretty good last year. Rangers just cut him.
whoops  
ZGiants98 : 3/23/2015 6:13 pm : link
sorry sphinx
There's going  
ZGiants98 : 3/23/2015 6:23 pm : link
to be a bunch of these types of players available soon. Even if Sandy want's Matusz, I think its smart to hold out for two more weeks to see what shakes loose.
Fantastic article  
ZGiants98 : 3/23/2015 6:25 pm : link
pointing out that spring "does matter".
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