trey wingo & #8207;@wingoz 51m51 minutes ago
One coach to me at NFL Owners meetings...looks like we're getting rid of extra points |
Andrew Brandt & #8207;@adbrandt 48m48 minutes ago
Oh. RT @wingoz One coach to me at NFL Owners meetings...looks like we're getting rid of extra points. |
Initially saw a couple of alternatives mentioned in Peter King's MMQB this am...in an interview with Goodell:
| He said he thinks “there’s a chance” there will be a rules change this week involving the extra point—either moving the PAT attempt from the two-yard line to the one-yard line, or perhaps back to the 15- to make the extra point less of a sure thing, or possibly changing the width of the uprights. |
That's the first mention I'd seen of moving it up to the one yard line. Guess the thinking there is it would be easier to block a PAT, and the kicker would have to get the ball elevated more quickly??
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Hmmmmm. More running plays and more contact. SO much for player safety.
The NFL rule book is a joke. Don't fix the stupid "Calvin Johnson" rule, but focus on extra points.
The game is popular because of the evolving rules, not in spite of them
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I just don't understand why the NFL is making all these changes when the Game is so popular.
The game is popular because of the evolving rules, not in spite of them
I wholeheartedly disagree
But some of the players were running into them and getting hurt
So screw the kicker
Who cares about the kicker?
But I kick that ball and I pray it goes straight
If it does coach says, "Good job, number 8"
He doesn't even know my name is
Andre Kristacovitchlalinski, Jr
But that's the life I live the lonesome kicker...
^^^^^^^1000+
Thats the point I'm making
All those other sports almost never change their rules.
Football is constantly evolving. Its part and parcel of the game and why it is so popular
If we're going to fuck around with the basic rules, which I'd rather not do, at least make it interesting.
If we're going to fuck around with the basic rules, which I'd rather not do, at least make it interesting.
I agree leave it alone but if not then really go for it. Why not make it real interesting and give the team a choice at further distances for even more points starting with the 2-point conversion and moving out farther and farther for a 3,4, and 5 point options.
Since it is all about scoring to capture the casual fans attention then why pretend, just go for it.
They could even add a bonus point for one handed catches in the end zone and build on the excitement Odel generated last season for the league.
Right now, extra points are so easy, that they are virtually automatic and so, but for a few rare occasions, they have a non-existent impact on the outcomes of games. As such, it makes them almost a complete waste of time.
But if we made them harder, then they would no longer be a waste of time. As a result, they would now have a greater influence on the outcome of the game at the expense of merely getting into the end zone.
At that level passing it in is much harder to do than running it in. One could argue in the NFL the opposite would be true.
Gambling is big for most any sport. Take it away and interest would dip.
What do you mean by 'madden players'?
The NFL is so popular they get away with charging you thousands of dollars for the privilege of having a seat. THEN they charge you for an actual ticket and parking. And they can't stop selling out.
That's not just 'madden players'.
I'm more concerned about the fantasy football impact
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What rules have baseball( running into the catcher) basketball(3 point shot, this was HUGE) Hockey( it's & shoot out) and the most popular sport in the world soccer changed? over the years? Football changes them every season and no way you can tell me it is a better sport than the one I started watching way back when to the die hard fan
Thats the point I'm making
All those other sports almost never change their rules.
Football is constantly evolving. Its part and parcel of the game and why it is so popular
You have zero evidence to support that claim. None.
Nlf decisions are either ratings or pr decisions.
To me this is ratings. Lets say 5 people watch wvery giants game a year. But two turn it off when they percieve the outcone is decided. Lets say the nfl instititee a new rule that a 100 yard td counted for 90 points. Now the 2 who turn it off wont cause the outcome is undecided
This decision is in that vein. It is not mak8ng anything more popular. Just attempting to maximize whats there.
The idea that new people will watch the sport cause of a changing extra point rule is absurd.
Further you fail to control for variables like fantasy sports and not rule changes as a factor in its growth.
Is it? Did you not see Tony Romo flub the hold and send Big Bill into retirement?
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is automatic... They should give the coach the option of taking the auto extra point and having 7 points or going for 2 where you make it you get 8 and you miss you get 6. This would actually speed up games not having to go through the motions of making the extra point which always happens.
Is it? Did you not see Tony Romo flub the hold and send Big Bill into retirement?
What do you mean by 'madden players'?
To me "madden players" makes me think of the xbox generation, many of whom only want to see passing offense and one-handed catches. They care nothing about the integrity of the game and many don't really understand it. This is the demographic the league is catering to more and more.
Have you ever played Madden online? Most players pass on every single play and that's what they want to see IRL.
Alternatively: DUH! Let's speed up the game by eliminating the extra point!
LEAVE IT ALONE!!!!
Reviewing all scoring plays appears to have allowed them to get another commercial in during that time.
If they wanted to make the PAT more exciting, let them award 3 points for "going for it".
There's so much about the sport they could change, but why???
The sport is good as is, maybe a tweak here or there on replay and protections, but changes like these alters the game too much for my liking. This league is starting to move in the direction of becoming more XFLish.
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is automatic... They should give the coach the option of taking the auto extra point and having 7 points or going for 2 where you make it you get 8 and you miss you get 6. This would actually speed up games not having to go through the motions of making the extra point which always happens.
Is it? Did you not see Tony Romo flub the hold and send Big Bill into retirement?
That was a FG not an XP
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is automatic... They should give the coach the option of taking the auto extra point and having 7 points or going for 2 where you make it you get 8 and you miss you get 6. This would actually speed up games not having to go through the motions of making the extra point which always happens.
Is it? Did you not see Tony Romo flub the hold and send Big Bill into retirement?
That was a FG not an XP
You're right. But the principal is the same. Still have to execute the snap, hold and kick.
Score is now 27-26 and you want to decide between an extra point from the 35 yard line on what will probably be a windy day in december and a 2 pt conversion???
I'm 100% against any alteration to this rule.
(I'm a great believer in the idea that fans like it when players are versatile. We love DTs playing fullback, DBs at WR, QBs going out in the pattern on a trick play, OTs playing TE. Everybody loves it when JJ Watt catches TDs. Basically, fans would have fun with watching different guys kick. OBJ can do it. Can Larry Donnell? Hynoski? Preston Parker?)
Another alternative to make PATs and field goals less automatic: Narrow the goalposts and add a top crossbar. Make it kind of a small-ish box.
They could also move the hashmarks back to their old position closer to the sideline. Make kickers work from a more oblique angle. Coaches don't much like having a real wide side and short side to account for, though
Score is now 27-26 and you want to decide between an extra point from the 35 yard line on what will probably be a windy day in december and a 2 pt conversion???
I'm 100% against any alteration to this rule.
That sounds exhilarating and I'm all for it. The point of watching sports is exactly for moment like this...not sure why you'd be against it.
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In comment 12199136 Amtoft said:
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is automatic... They should give the coach the option of taking the auto extra point and having 7 points or going for 2 where you make it you get 8 and you miss you get 6. This would actually speed up games not having to go through the motions of making the extra point which always happens.
Is it? Did you not see Tony Romo flub the hold and send Big Bill into retirement?
That was a FG not an XP
You're right. But the principal is the same. Still have to execute the snap, hold and kick.
The principal is not the same. A FG from a side hash mark is not the same as an extra point. Not to mention you are talking about a 3 point play instead of a 1 point play. Last year 1230 extra points were attempted and 1222 were made for a 99.3% success rate. We are taking time used for a play that will result in a 99.3% success rate? It will help speed up games if you just eliminate it and make TDs 7 points which they basically are.
You could make the case that if not one single rule or thing was changed from the 80s that the NFL is still as popular today. The game exploded in the late 70s 80s and 90s before any of this new shit was implemented.
Fantasy football blew the NFL up in my view.
n a memo to owners, the league’s compensation committee justified the more than $44 million in pay for its current commissioner, Roger Goodell, as “appropriate given the fact that the N.F.L. under his consistently strong leadership continues to grow and is by far the most successful sports league.” He has served as commissioner since 2006.
http://www.bloomberg.com/bw/articles/2014-09-04/nfls-secretive-finances-a-nearly-10-billion-mystery
You don't pay a guy that much money unless he's made you quite a whole lot more than that. I'm not saying it's simply because of rule changes, but steering harshly toward an offense-driven league seems pretty concurrent with this.
Score is now 27-26 and you want to decide between an extra point from the 35 yard line on what will probably be a windy day in december and a 2 pt conversion???
I'm 100% against any alteration to this rule.
you don't trust Eli to make a clutch play? :)
Or, forget special cases like the above - under some of these rule proposals, the league is set to turn a huge proportion of games into 2-point conversion-offs? Forget hard fought 21-21 games going into the last minutes between two equally matched teams giving it their all, instead you'll almost always have something like a 22-20 score because we had to throw in a coin toss for an extra point at the end of each score.
It's bizarre. If they hate PATs, just make election of the Point After automatic. You can go for two if you want, but if you choose not to, they put the 7th point right on the board.
I could not agree more. I don't recognize the game from my childhood. I
Rather they narrow the goalposts.