They may just want to determine the number. If he has a great season, his number goes up. If he has an average season, it will be less.
But there are really no other options out there as good as he is, and there is no next Andrew Luck on the horizon yet, even if the Giants were in the position to draft one.
And Eli WANTS to be a Giant.
With JPP, if he has a good to great season, they might re sign or tag him again.
It says to me the team has put the onus on JPP to produce at the level he believes he should be paid at, which is exactly what I want to see. Pay for future performance, not the past.
RE: Eli ... it's a crossroads for both sides given TC's status, the roster in flux, and Eli's age relative to a market deal being five years. I'm ok with waiting on him, and it serves Eli well to wait given TC's status, etc.
The highest paid player on Offense and Defense are FAs after 2015
Every coach on the staff's contract expires in 2016, which means they are all fireable after 2015. So, if the Giants don't improve dramatically there could and should be a major housecleaning. One that includes Reese.
But, he definitely wants to be the highest paid guy. He always has worked to get the most money he can. That's fair. He's not giving Tom Brady discounts to the Giants. I'm ok with letting him earn that money by playing really well. If he's great, then we'll be happy to pay him big bucks. If he's not and leads the league in INTS, then he'll get a contract at a value less than the highest paid guy and that will be what he's worth. I think either way, he won't leave the Giants.
but I still think they should keep Eli here if at all possible. You do
as his hit with the tag won't hurt us this year as most of our "higher" FA monies have been allocated for this year..Hopefully, if he's still un-signed, we consider the S Miles however..
Eli? Absolutely nothing to see here imv..We don't need his cap space..Whenever they get it done, they get it done..He's a Giant for life..
If Peyton doesn't hurt his neck, he's still a Colt imo as no way they'd have gone 2-14 with him to place themselves in the Luck lottery..
he proved last season he has plenty of mileage and talent left and might even have his best years ahead of him..No guarantee of that of course, but if you can bet on anything at all in this league(you really can't of course), it's Eli staying healthy..
Whatever the guarantees are as the standard for QBs, Eli will get it, imv..
Ben is far more broken down than Eli ever has been and I would not, as a GM, have given him that much guaranteed money..
However it works out, Eli's gonna get his 20 mil/yr imo and I trust Abrams will figure out how best to work it..
Disclaimer: Had Eli had a virtual repeat of 2013, I could see the Giants have great pause..I don't now..
to go elsewhere. However, as Eric said, Eli is pretty erratic. He absolutely is one of the best when he is on his game and certainly one of the three best end of the game QBs. But take the SF game last year. The only way the Giants lose is with Eli's 5 Int's. Blame the offensive line if you like, it did suck in 2013, but was much better in 2014. Remember, Aaron Rodgers o-line has sucked for years.
And while we wax poetic about losing Phil, he was basically cooked at that time. Not the ending we want for an icon being let go, but even if he was half decent that last year who knows if he even makes the team the next.
My proof that Eli is erratic is what other team's fans feel about Eli. Most of the ones I know, concede that when he is on he is as good as it gets, but the most common comment is just how inconsistent he is. You just never know when that bonehead Int is coming.
That said, I fully expect Eli to sign a multi-year deal between now and Dec 2015.
JPP is being criticized for not being the Superman of 11 and being merely excellent. How many #1 picks are you going to spend to replace him? How much is going to be spent on a FA to replace him?
You don't play games with the qb position unless you have the replacement at hand. Its too important of a position.
the hesitation by management to lock up JPP and Eli to very expensive long-term deals when the team is coming off of 7-9 and 6-10 seasons. If the trend continues and we do something like 5-11 or 6-10 again next year, the next GM and coach might want a cleaner cap to work with.
I think it's generally a good idea to look forward and not back. Eli's already been paid for the two superbowl runs. Do we want to pay him a $20-$25M cap figure for his age 35-39 seasons? I'd offer him similar money to what the Steelers gave Ben, but I'd want to see another pro bowl type season first.
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Remember, Aaron Rodgers o-line has sucked for years
Rodgers gets sacked more than Eli -
2014 - 30 each
2013 Eli's worst year he was sacked 40 times - Rodgers 45.
2012 - Eli 20 - Rodgers 51.
Now, tell me again how the Packers line doesn't suck more.
Admittedly I haven't followed the Packers line much, but one stat rarely tells the whole story. QB Hits and pressures would have to be examined also. Lots of QB pressures would result in more incomplete passes and INTs. IMO Eli seems a bit more willing to throw it up under pressure into coverage then Rodgers. That could lead to Aaron rodgers taking more sacks, but Eli having more INTs and incompletes.
I'm not saying which line is worse, just saying that sacks is a pretty basic stat to measure O-line success.
RE: RE: RE: Another BBI myth along with Brady giving a discount..
Admittedly I haven't followed the Packers line much, but one stat rarely tells the whole story. QB Hits and pressures would have to be examined also. Lots of QB pressures would result in more incomplete passes and INTs. IMO Eli seems a bit more willing to throw it up under pressure into coverage then Rodgers. That could lead to Aaron rodgers taking more sacks, but Eli having more INTs and incompletes.
I'm not saying which line is worse, just saying that sacks is a pretty basic stat to measure O-line success.
I can agree that Eli will try and force a throw that Rodgers probably doesn't; but if Rodgers is getting sacked more often, he is likely getting more pressures and more hits. On top, Rodgers can move. Eli can't. That might also reduce the hits.
With better receivers, better RBs, better TEs, wouldn't that go a long way to saying the weak link is the o-line (even with better runs stats).
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Yeah, but his wife make 4 times what he does. And the picture in today's NYDN proves that she has the greatest ass in the world.
That's true. Eli doesn't have that luxury and I don't even mean it as a criticism. I wouldn't give anyone a hometown discount either. But, Brady has definitely been taking less than market value. Eli's out earned him over his career - and beaten him twice in the big game ;)
As for gisele's ass? It's nice, but that's a bit of hyperbole I'm not gonna sign on for.
Blame it on the OL if it makes the medicine go down easier, but I totally agree that he should not get an extension. Obviously 2015 is a make or break year for EVERYBODY.
Mara was quoted that He would like to get a deal done with Eli as soon they can. Carton went on to bash Eli and Yes! Boomer came to his defense. Carton asked would Eli make other bad teams better if he was on them and Boomer said some teams yes, he specifically said if Eli was in Cleveland they'd have won more games. A deal will get done I'm not worried. I do believe that JPP is in a prove it year.
Kudos to you, I think, for actually listening to Boomer and Carton
But that may be something you want to avoid going forward.
Gotta love Cartoon's act. Like he wouldn't get on his knees to have a QB that's a perennial 4000 / 25-30 TD guy. Same prick who thought Mark Sanchez was a savior and made it a point to become close personal friends with the dude just to exploit it for his own career.
RE: Kudos to you, I think, for actually listening to Boomer and Carton
But that may be something you want to avoid going forward.
Gotta love Cartoon's act. Like he wouldn't get on his knees to have a QB that's a perennial 4000 / 25-30 TD guy. Same prick who thought Mark Sanchez was a savior and made it a point to become close personal friends with the dude just to exploit it for his own career.
T3, LOL! it definitely isn't a habit of mine. Was out running around doing errands and was bored in the car so i threw it on. I couldn't listen to that a$$hole everyday, he was being a prick as you said, as I stated was surprised that Boomer came to Eli's defense. It is interesting that Eli if no contract is done by season's end, would be in the minority of QB's to have played out an entire contract, especially at what he was paid! We will just have to wait and see, but I believe in my heart Eli will retire a Giant.
I have no idea WTF this "Manning has been inconsistent shit is"
REESE GAVE HIM NO OL.
I truly hope this is all "press banter" and not reflective of the Giants feelings on Eli.
If so they are stupid and TC came out and said, he wants Eli secure and not worrying about contract and I don't blame him.
Shabu,"I truly hope this is all "press banter" and not reflective of the Giants feelings on Eli." This IS what I believe is what started this whole magilla, I truly believe it's a way to sell papers, and let's face it Graziano is a pot stirrer!
JPP is another issue entirely, Eli should be a giant until he retires.
I'm rooting for a different ending, but if we don't get it, the consolation prize is $36 million in immediate cap room.
A new management team will appreciate the flexibility that affords.
The goal is to build a team, not create cap room. You saw in this free agent period that teams lock up their good players. The only guys available are marginal players or those who will make $36 million in cap disappear in a heartbeat.
inconsistent? He became starter of the Giants and they were immediately a competitive team.
Three years in a title. These past few years are the team's only losing seasons with him at the helm. Again you could argue age and that he is in decline, I would disagree, but you could make that argument.
It is the idea that Eli's career to this point has been some inconsistent roller coaster ride that I do not see.
I have no idea WTF this "Manning has been inconsistent shit is"
REESE GAVE HIM NO OL.
I truly hope this is all "press banter" and not reflective of the Giants feelings on Eli.
If so they are stupid and TC came out and said, he wants Eli secure and not worrying about contract and I don't blame him.
Shabu,"I truly hope this is all "press banter" and not reflective of the Giants feelings on Eli." This IS what I believe is what started this whole magilla, I truly believe it's a way to sell papers, and let's face it Graziano is a pot stirrer!
JPP is another issue entirely, Eli should be a giant until he retires.
Maybe when the Giants off-season gets boring enough because the front office has done very little to improve the team... the press turns to our Good Players to stir up shit.
Honestly I can't wait for baseball and I am going to stop reading Giants news... there is nothing interesting and its still the same problem.
THE DRAFTS HAVE SUCKED
REESE HAS NOT BROUGHT ENOUGH TALENT TO THIS ROSTER
GIANTS MAY HAVE WASTED A FRANCHISE QB IN HIS PRIME
Really starting to dislike the talent acquisition part of this NYG team.
The Giants didn't waste anything. You got two super bowl wins
out of it. He could retire today and his career as a 1st overall pick would be a complete and total unmitigated success with some support for the Hall of Fame.
It wasn't all his fault, but Eli was terrible in 2013.
Eli was terrible in 2013 because he had no TE. I've made this comment repeatedly. The biggest mistake made by Reese was allowing Martellus Bennett to walk. And I don't accept the excuse that the salary cap left Reese no choice. He could have found a way. Not having Bennnet hurt the running game, left Eli with no target able to create separation, and left Eli vulnerable to a pass rush on the right side of the line.
Part of the reason they let Bennett go is he couldn't get the TC/Gilbride offense right. Perhaps you don't remember toward the end of the year he'd be open and Eli didn't even look his way bc he was running wrong routes.
RE: RE: RE: i hope all you who see this as beneficial
I suspect a lot of people don't know who Jerry Golsteyn and Joe Pisarcik are!
Forgetting Randy Dean Reb. Lol. What a QB grouping that was.
Yeah, the younger of our BBI brethren don't go back far enough to remember what a true disaster is. And that QB mess was compounded by trading a #1 to Dallas for Craig Morton, which turned into Randy White for the Cowboys. UGH!
It wasn't all his fault, but Eli was terrible in 2013.
Eli was terrible in 2013 because he had no TE. I've made this comment repeatedly. The biggest mistake made by Reese was allowing Martellus Bennett to walk. And I don't accept the excuse that the salary cap left Reese no choice. He could have found a way. Not having Bennnet hurt the running game, left Eli with no target able to create separation, and left Eli vulnerable to a pass rush on the right side of the line.
Part of the reason they let Bennett go is he couldn't get the TC/Gilbride offense right. Perhaps you don't remember toward the end of the year he'd be open and Eli didn't even look his way bc he was running wrong routes.
its funny the excuses that pile up about "why insert player here, was on the team too long, or not long enough "
If he's bad and the teams' bad (which IMO is the only reason he's bad) someone else will sign him.
If he's good and he decides to walk, he'll get more than enough $$$ anywhere he goes.
What do the Giants get out of it? NOTHING.
It makes no sense. If you're looking to move on from him then you sign him to a deal where it's relatively easy to move the contract in a trade, as many have said the Giants will have plenty of cap room next offseason so they could do it.
This is a QB starved league, there is no way they wouldn't get a huge return (barring injury, which there is no reason to believe will happen).
All of that being said, they need to sign and keep him so that he is a career Giant and win at least one more 'ship with him. It's doable.
My point is, no matter which way they want to go with him, allowing him to go to FA is just poor talent management...IMHO
It seems like after last season, they have all the data they need.
If he's bad and the teams' bad (which IMO is the only reason he's bad) someone else will sign him.
If he's good and he decides to walk, he'll get more than enough $$$ anywhere he goes.
What do the Giants get out of it? NOTHING.
It makes no sense. If you're looking to move on from him then you sign him to a deal where it's relatively easy to move the contract in a trade, as many have said the Giants will have plenty of cap room next offseason so they could do it.
This is a QB starved league, there is no way they wouldn't get a huge return (barring injury, which there is no reason to believe will happen).
All of that being said, they need to sign and keep him so that he is a career Giant and win at least one more 'ship with him. It's doable.
My point is, no matter which way they want to go with him, allowing him to go to FA is just poor talent management...IMHO
Andrew, there is no way Eli signs the team friendly contract you espouse. He's going to get $20 mill with $45 to $55 guaranteed. The Giants will eat the signing bonus if he is traded. So he's not going to be traded. Besides, if it goes south quicklt for him what team would take a washed out high priced QB? When they sign Eli it will be for the rest of his career.
The team saying that "the Giants may roll the dice..." hedges their bets. Does it behoove them to say that they must get a deal done within a certain time-frame? Or to play it off like "we'll see"?
The scenario where you'd want to extend Eli is if he has a good year. If he has that good year it then puts him in the driver's seat contract-wise.
On Eli's side, I'm sure he's betting on having a great year but conversely, what if it isn't that great--maybe not even entirely his fault but either way he doesn't look so great?
It behooves both parties to not wait this out. IMO.
is it possible that we take a QB in a low round? I'd throw the remote with all of the holes on this team, but I wouldn't put it past the front office at this point.
actually more so than some of the things they have been doing the last few years. Reality is that Eli could digress quickly without notice and we have already seen quite a bit of erratic play from him over several seasons now with extreme peaks and valleys with not much consistency. Anytime you hear the GM or team say Eli is broken, then they are thinking about their next move. Good run with Eli, hopefully he can finish strong for the team.
I'd be willing to wager that Eli will get his extension done
But there are really no other options out there as good as he is, and there is no next Andrew Luck on the horizon yet, even if the Giants were in the position to draft one.
And Eli WANTS to be a Giant.
With JPP, if he has a good to great season, they might re sign or tag him again.
RE: Eli ... it's a crossroads for both sides given TC's status, the roster in flux, and Eli's age relative to a market deal being five years. I'm ok with waiting on him, and it serves Eli well to wait given TC's status, etc.
Eli? Absolutely nothing to see here imv..We don't need his cap space..Whenever they get it done, they get it done..He's a Giant for life..
If Peyton doesn't hurt his neck, he's still a Colt imo as no way they'd have gone 2-14 with him to place themselves in the Luck lottery..
Unless you're guaranteed to get an Andrew Luck in the draft
I understand the sentiment, and Eli remains the team's most likely best option for the next few seasons, but the decision goes beyond just that.
Whatever the guarantees are as the standard for QBs, Eli will get it, imv..
Ben is far more broken down than Eli ever has been and I would not, as a GM, have given him that much guaranteed money..
However it works out, Eli's gonna get his 20 mil/yr imo and I trust Abrams will figure out how best to work it..
Disclaimer: Had Eli had a virtual repeat of 2013, I could see the Giants have great pause..I don't now..
IMHO
And while we wax poetic about losing Phil, he was basically cooked at that time. Not the ending we want for an icon being let go, but even if he was half decent that last year who knows if he even makes the team the next.
My proof that Eli is erratic is what other team's fans feel about Eli. Most of the ones I know, concede that when he is on he is as good as it gets, but the most common comment is just how inconsistent he is. You just never know when that bonehead Int is coming.
That said, I fully expect Eli to sign a multi-year deal between now and Dec 2015.
You don't play games with the qb position unless you have the replacement at hand. Its too important of a position.
Absolutely and I have no problem waiting in the least
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Remember, Aaron Rodgers o-line has sucked for years
Rodgers gets sacked more than Eli -
2014 - 30 each
2013 Eli's worst year he was sacked 40 times - Rodgers 45.
2012 - Eli 20 - Rodgers 51.
Now, tell me again how the Packers line doesn't suck more.
I think it's generally a good idea to look forward and not back. Eli's already been paid for the two superbowl runs. Do we want to pay him a $20-$25M cap figure for his age 35-39 seasons? I'd offer him similar money to what the Steelers gave Ben, but I'd want to see another pro bowl type season first.
Yeah, but his wife make 4 times what he does. And the picture in today's NYDN proves that she has the greatest ass in the world.
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Remember, Aaron Rodgers o-line has sucked for years
Rodgers gets sacked more than Eli -
2014 - 30 each
2013 Eli's worst year he was sacked 40 times - Rodgers 45.
2012 - Eli 20 - Rodgers 51.
Now, tell me again how the Packers line doesn't suck more.
Admittedly I haven't followed the Packers line much, but one stat rarely tells the whole story. QB Hits and pressures would have to be examined also. Lots of QB pressures would result in more incomplete passes and INTs. IMO Eli seems a bit more willing to throw it up under pressure into coverage then Rodgers. That could lead to Aaron rodgers taking more sacks, but Eli having more INTs and incompletes.
I'm not saying which line is worse, just saying that sacks is a pretty basic stat to measure O-line success.
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Admittedly I haven't followed the Packers line much, but one stat rarely tells the whole story. QB Hits and pressures would have to be examined also. Lots of QB pressures would result in more incomplete passes and INTs. IMO Eli seems a bit more willing to throw it up under pressure into coverage then Rodgers. That could lead to Aaron rodgers taking more sacks, but Eli having more INTs and incompletes.
I'm not saying which line is worse, just saying that sacks is a pretty basic stat to measure O-line success.
I can agree that Eli will try and force a throw that Rodgers probably doesn't; but if Rodgers is getting sacked more often, he is likely getting more pressures and more hits. On top, Rodgers can move. Eli can't. That might also reduce the hits.
With better receivers, better RBs, better TEs, wouldn't that go a long way to saying the weak link is the o-line (even with better runs stats).
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Yeah, but his wife make 4 times what he does. And the picture in today's NYDN proves that she has the greatest ass in the world.
That's true. Eli doesn't have that luxury and I don't even mean it as a criticism. I wouldn't give anyone a hometown discount either. But, Brady has definitely been taking less than market value. Eli's out earned him over his career - and beaten him twice in the big game ;)
As for gisele's ass? It's nice, but that's a bit of hyperbole I'm not gonna sign on for.
GOOD..!!!
I'm rooting for a different ending, but if we don't get it, the consolation prize is $36 million in immediate cap room.
A new management team will appreciate the flexibility that affords.
Gotta love Cartoon's act. Like he wouldn't get on his knees to have a QB that's a perennial 4000 / 25-30 TD guy. Same prick who thought Mark Sanchez was a savior and made it a point to become close personal friends with the dude just to exploit it for his own career.
Gotta love Cartoon's act. Like he wouldn't get on his knees to have a QB that's a perennial 4000 / 25-30 TD guy. Same prick who thought Mark Sanchez was a savior and made it a point to become close personal friends with the dude just to exploit it for his own career.
T3, LOL! it definitely isn't a habit of mine. Was out running around doing errands and was bored in the car so i threw it on. I couldn't listen to that a$$hole everyday, he was being a prick as you said, as I stated was surprised that Boomer came to Eli's defense. It is interesting that Eli if no contract is done by season's end, would be in the minority of QB's to have played out an entire contract, especially at what he was paid! We will just have to wait and see, but I believe in my heart Eli will retire a Giant.
REESE GAVE HIM NO OL.
I truly hope this is all "press banter" and not reflective of the Giants feelings on Eli.
If so they are stupid and TC came out and said, he wants Eli secure and not worrying about contract and I don't blame him.
JPP is another issue entirely, Eli should be a giant until he retires.
REESE GAVE HIM NO OL.
I truly hope this is all "press banter" and not reflective of the Giants feelings on Eli.
If so they are stupid and TC came out and said, he wants Eli secure and not worrying about contract and I don't blame him.
Shabu,"I truly hope this is all "press banter" and not reflective of the Giants feelings on Eli." This IS what I believe is what started this whole magilla, I truly believe it's a way to sell papers, and let's face it Graziano is a pot stirrer!
JPP is another issue entirely, Eli should be a giant until he retires.
I'm rooting for a different ending, but if we don't get it, the consolation prize is $36 million in immediate cap room.
A new management team will appreciate the flexibility that affords.
Three years in a title. These past few years are the team's only losing seasons with him at the helm. Again you could argue age and that he is in decline, I would disagree, but you could make that argument.
It is the idea that Eli's career to this point has been some inconsistent roller coaster ride that I do not see.
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I have no idea WTF this "Manning has been inconsistent shit is"
REESE GAVE HIM NO OL.
I truly hope this is all "press banter" and not reflective of the Giants feelings on Eli.
If so they are stupid and TC came out and said, he wants Eli secure and not worrying about contract and I don't blame him.
Shabu,"I truly hope this is all "press banter" and not reflective of the Giants feelings on Eli." This IS what I believe is what started this whole magilla, I truly believe it's a way to sell papers, and let's face it Graziano is a pot stirrer!
JPP is another issue entirely, Eli should be a giant until he retires.
Maybe when the Giants off-season gets boring enough because the front office has done very little to improve the team... the press turns to our Good Players to stir up shit.
Honestly I can't wait for baseball and I am going to stop reading Giants news... there is nothing interesting and its still the same problem.
THE DRAFTS HAVE SUCKED
REESE HAS NOT BROUGHT ENOUGH TALENT TO THIS ROSTER
GIANTS MAY HAVE WASTED A FRANCHISE QB IN HIS PRIME
Really starting to dislike the talent acquisition part of this NYG team.
Are the Steelers "wasting" Ben Roethlisberger?
Are the Packers "wasting" Aaron Rodgers.
Just calm the hell down.
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Will enjoy the 2-14 seasons coming.
1964 is calling . . .
I suspect a lot of people don't know who Jerry Golsteyn and Joe Pisarcik are!
Forgetting Randy Dean Reb. Lol. What a QB grouping that was.
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Will enjoy the 2-14 seasons coming.
1964 is calling . . .
I suspect a lot of people don't know who Jerry Golsteyn and Joe Pisarcik are!
Forgetting Randy Dean Reb. Lol. What a QB grouping that was.
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It wasn't all his fault, but Eli was terrible in 2013.
Eli was terrible in 2013 because he had no TE. I've made this comment repeatedly. The biggest mistake made by Reese was allowing Martellus Bennett to walk. And I don't accept the excuse that the salary cap left Reese no choice. He could have found a way. Not having Bennnet hurt the running game, left Eli with no target able to create separation, and left Eli vulnerable to a pass rush on the right side of the line.
Part of the reason they let Bennett go is he couldn't get the TC/Gilbride offense right. Perhaps you don't remember toward the end of the year he'd be open and Eli didn't even look his way bc he was running wrong routes.
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Will enjoy the 2-14 seasons coming.
1964 is calling . . .
I suspect a lot of people don't know who Jerry Golsteyn and Joe Pisarcik are!
Forgetting Randy Dean Reb. Lol. What a QB grouping that was.
Yeah, the younger of our BBI brethren don't go back far enough to remember what a true disaster is. And that QB mess was compounded by trading a #1 to Dallas for Craig Morton, which turned into Randy White for the Cowboys. UGH!
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It wasn't all his fault, but Eli was terrible in 2013.
Eli was terrible in 2013 because he had no TE. I've made this comment repeatedly. The biggest mistake made by Reese was allowing Martellus Bennett to walk. And I don't accept the excuse that the salary cap left Reese no choice. He could have found a way. Not having Bennnet hurt the running game, left Eli with no target able to create separation, and left Eli vulnerable to a pass rush on the right side of the line.
Part of the reason they let Bennett go is he couldn't get the TC/Gilbride offense right. Perhaps you don't remember toward the end of the year he'd be open and Eli didn't even look his way bc he was running wrong routes.
its funny the excuses that pile up about "why insert player here, was on the team too long, or not long enough "
Something is off in this Giants org fellas.
If he's bad and the teams' bad (which IMO is the only reason he's bad) someone else will sign him.
If he's good and he decides to walk, he'll get more than enough $$$ anywhere he goes.
What do the Giants get out of it? NOTHING.
It makes no sense. If you're looking to move on from him then you sign him to a deal where it's relatively easy to move the contract in a trade, as many have said the Giants will have plenty of cap room next offseason so they could do it.
This is a QB starved league, there is no way they wouldn't get a huge return (barring injury, which there is no reason to believe will happen).
All of that being said, they need to sign and keep him so that he is a career Giant and win at least one more 'ship with him. It's doable.
My point is, no matter which way they want to go with him, allowing him to go to FA is just poor talent management...IMHO
If he's bad and the teams' bad (which IMO is the only reason he's bad) someone else will sign him.
If he's good and he decides to walk, he'll get more than enough $$$ anywhere he goes.
What do the Giants get out of it? NOTHING.
It makes no sense. If you're looking to move on from him then you sign him to a deal where it's relatively easy to move the contract in a trade, as many have said the Giants will have plenty of cap room next offseason so they could do it.
This is a QB starved league, there is no way they wouldn't get a huge return (barring injury, which there is no reason to believe will happen).
All of that being said, they need to sign and keep him so that he is a career Giant and win at least one more 'ship with him. It's doable.
My point is, no matter which way they want to go with him, allowing him to go to FA is just poor talent management...IMHO
Andrew, there is no way Eli signs the team friendly contract you espouse. He's going to get $20 mill with $45 to $55 guaranteed. The Giants will eat the signing bonus if he is traded. So he's not going to be traded. Besides, if it goes south quicklt for him what team would take a washed out high priced QB? When they sign Eli it will be for the rest of his career.
The scenario where you'd want to extend Eli is if he has a good year. If he has that good year it then puts him in the driver's seat contract-wise.
On Eli's side, I'm sure he's betting on having a great year but conversely, what if it isn't that great--maybe not even entirely his fault but either way he doesn't look so great?
It behooves both parties to not wait this out. IMO.