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NFT: Better Call Saul 3/23/15 (spoilers)

Route 9 in LEH : 3/23/2015 9:44 pm
Episode 10
episode 8**  
Route 9 in LEH : 3/23/2015 9:45 pm : link
Lol
Damn  
kelsto811 : 3/23/2015 11:03 pm : link
Chuck gone?
This show is getting painful to watch  
Mike in Long Beach : 3/24/2015 12:50 am : link
You can just see how badly Saul is about to screwed by everyone he trusts.
It was left a little ambiguous at the end there  
BlackLight : 3/24/2015 2:17 am : link
I don't know that that's it for Chuck.
Go Landcrabs !  
SirSirob : 3/24/2015 2:41 am : link
Soylent Green
Why would Chuck be gone?  
Mr. Bungle : 3/24/2015 8:09 am : link
He just dropped the box of files?

And I can't be the only one who laughed out loud (and rewound the DVR) when Jimmy grabbed the poopy diaper in the dumpster.
I agree about it beig painfull to watch....  
Crispino : 3/24/2015 8:16 am : link
because we know where Jimmy ends up. Nothing good is going to work out for him, and he's very likeable at this point. You're rooting for him to beat the big guys, but you know it won't happen.

I laughed out loud at "Go Land Crabs!" And "Soylent Green" too. Great writing.o
what the hell are you guys talking about  
SicilianGMEN : 3/24/2015 8:16 am : link
Chuck Gone? I dont get it...he went outside and obviously he's been BS'ing about his condition, what does that have to do with chuck gone?
RE: what the hell are you guys talking about  
Mike in Long Beach : 3/24/2015 8:26 am : link
In comment 12200152 SicilianGMEN said:
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Chuck Gone? I dont get it...he went outside and obviously he's been BS'ing about his condition, what does that have to do with chuck gone?


It was just one poster and I agree... Ridiculous thought, lol.

They really are setting up this soon-to-be betrayal nicely. Even the catalyst for the whole discovery... The way he was kind to the old lady without enough money to pay... That scene served both as a important plot point in the story line and also made Jimmy even more likable (which will make it much harder/more engaging when he falls). Great show.
I wouldn't say Chuck has been BSing.  
RicFlair : 3/24/2015 8:51 am : link
That time he went outside to get the paper and came back in freaking out nobody was there to see him inside freaking out.
Agree Chuck is not BSing  
weeg in the bronx : 3/24/2015 9:01 am : link
I'm figuring his conditon started after a failure/loss at work, the rush of being the top dog again puts all other things out of his mind. Funny to watch the sequence though.
If Chuck has indeed recovered,  
Mr. Bungle : 3/24/2015 9:34 am : link
I'll miss him saying, "Ground yourself?"
Pretty good episode  
Route 9 in LEH : 3/24/2015 10:51 am : link
My favorite part was when they wouldn't let him in at the Sandpiper Crossing and he began to write the drafts a demand letter on a piece of toilet paper in the bathroom. I honestly don't think Chuck is faking his condition but it is a good thought to store in the back of my mind. It really is hard to guess where he is mentally at this juncture of the show. I also think that Jimmy will lose this case and this begin the ruination of Jimmy, where he becomes Saul.

My biggest fear going into BCS was I would get tired of the wit and the prompt replies by Saul but this isn't the case. I'm still digging the show.
RE: I wouldn't say Chuck has been BSing.  
Mike in Long Beach : 3/24/2015 10:52 am : link
In comment 12200187 RicFlair said:
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That time he went outside to get the paper and came back in freaking out nobody was there to see him inside freaking out.


I definitely don't think he's been BSing. I think the rush of fresh lawyer activity distracted him from his "condition," which is really just a psychological disorder, and without even realizing it he fell into an old, normal habit of simply grabbing something from the car.

I also think now that he's able to go outside and function like a normal human being, he's about to royally screw over Jimmy and force him out of his own case.
I think he'll do this by going back to  
Mike in Long Beach : 3/24/2015 10:53 am : link
Hamlin, Hamlin and McGill (and going back is the wrong word as he's technically still there). The question is whether Kim will stand by Jimmy or stick with the firm. All evidence points to Jimmy getting fucked over by her too.
Mike in Long Beach  
Route 9 in LEH : 3/24/2015 11:02 am : link
Yeah, I never trusted her once
Agree with the other posts  
moespree : 3/24/2015 11:27 am : link
I see it playing out like this: he's going to be screwed by everyone. When crunch time comes I bet his brother bails and doesn't help him at a very important juncture, he loses the case, Kim screws him over, Hamlin tries to put him out of business.

And it will be then that Jimmy realizes the only guy who he has helped and has helped him is Mike, and Mike will be in some sort of trouble, and thus the transformation to Saul Goodman to get Mike out of trouble.
The fall will be the fact that  
kicker : 3/24/2015 11:32 am : link
Chuck used his code for the articles. That means that the partnership agreement comes into play, the one that Saul poo-pooed, and he likely gets some minimal finder's fee that he fights, and loses.
they continue  
fkap : 3/24/2015 12:15 pm : link
to play the theme that the greed of others causes Saul harm. the Kettleman's absolute refusal to give up the money means Saul has to give back his share. He had the assisted living lawyers by the balls, but Chuck gets greedy for a huge payday instead of just a good one. Ultimately, Saul either loses or gets cut out. Eventually Walter White's greed will ruin whatever success Saul builds for himself.
moespree  
fkap : 3/24/2015 12:20 pm : link
my hunch is that Chuck screws over Jimmy. Jimmy has been trying to stay on the up and up to hold up a promise to Chuck not to backslide. No one gives Jimmy any kudos for becoming a lawyer, viewing him as just some loser hack who got a mail order degree. Once Chuck betrays him, he'll have no reason not to give in to the dark side, and start representing the sleazier side of the world.
BCS  
watertown : 3/24/2015 2:03 pm : link
I don't see Chuck intentionally hurting Jimmy, or Kim for that matter.
RE: BCS  
Mike in Long Beach : 3/24/2015 2:04 pm : link
In comment 12200979 watertown said:
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I don't see Chuck intentionally hurting Jimmy, or Kim for that matter.


Disagree. In fact, I think the first scene of last night's episode (after Jimmy showed Chuck he passed the bar) was made specifically to show he's capable of hurting his brother.
Mike  
watertown : 3/24/2015 2:26 pm : link
Didn't they connote it was Howard who shot Jimmy down during the cake scene in the mailroom?
RE: Mike  
BlackLight : 3/24/2015 2:41 pm : link
In comment 12201049 watertown said:
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Didn't they connote it was Howard who shot Jimmy down during the cake scene in the mailroom?


I don't think Chuck believed enough in Jimmy in that moment to bring him on, but didn't have the heart to tell him so. Howard was sent to deliver the message (which I'm sure he agreed with), but I doubt very much that Chuck couldn't have just forced the hire if he wanted to.
RE: Mike  
Mike in Long Beach : 3/24/2015 2:50 pm : link
In comment 12201049 watertown said:
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Didn't they connote it was Howard who shot Jimmy down during the cake scene in the mailroom?


Jimmy: Can I have a job?
Chuck: Doing what?... Oh! Lawyer.

He had zero intention of hiring Jimmy. As blacklight said.. Howard delivered a message both parties almost certainly agreed on.
Chuck continues  
fkap : 3/24/2015 5:20 pm : link
to belittle Jimmy at every opportunity, seeing him as nothing more than a punk ass younger brother running schemes or being a two-bit mail order lawyer. Good for you, little brother, you passed the bar. now go get me another bag of ice for my fridge.
RE: Chuck continues  
BlackLight : 3/24/2015 5:27 pm : link
In comment 12201452 fkap said:
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to belittle Jimmy at every opportunity, seeing him as nothing more than a punk ass younger brother running schemes or being a two-bit mail order lawyer. Good for you, little brother, you passed the bar. now go get me another bag of ice for my fridge.


Yes, though I don't think there's real malice in it. Jimmy has just never succeeded at anything legitimate in his life, so Chuck is wary of getting himself in too deep with whatever Jimmy's doing. He think its only a matter of time before Jimmy returns to his disreputable former habits.
It seemed that Jimmy had to pry an  
Mr. Bungle : 3/24/2015 5:45 pm : link
"I'm proud of you" out of Chuck after Jimmy passed the bar. If Chuck really does recover to "normal," I would think he'd be that same guy.
bit of a teaser from Alan Sepinwall  
Headhunter : 3/24/2015 6:13 pm : link
in his interview with Peter Gould be fore the premiere he let on that he and Vince Gilligan were surprised by the tone and direction the last 2 episodes take. We shall see what we shall see
Black Light  
fkap : 3/24/2015 8:49 pm : link
it's not intentional malice, but it's almost as bad. It's a complete dismissal of Jimmy as being anything worthwhile. In Chuck's eyes, he'll never be anything more than a guy from the mail room. Jimmy may not appear to be suave partner material, but he's not a worthless dummy.
It really does seem  
moespree : 3/24/2015 9:35 pm : link
They are setting it up so that everyone Jimmy thinks cares about him is about to hurt him significantly. And the guy Jimmy has been fighting with for most of the season (Mike) is actually the one who has helped him when he asked, and has helped Mike when he asked. And now Mike is about to get involved in some criminal enterprises.

Pieces are beginning to fit for the emergence of Saul Goodman. You can see it coming.
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