The center was also approached by Carmelo Anthony, though he wouldn't say what the two spoke about behind closed doors.
"We say hello," Gasol said of the conversation. "I don't know. Things that are talked in the locker room should always be kept in the locker room. Of course guys ask you how you're feeling and stuff like that but other than that there wasn't much more."
I think it is an extreme long shot Gasol leaves Memphis...I think the only way he even thinks about it is if Memphis loses round 1.
The only reason i mention first round loss, is becuse maybe he realizes it is to hard in the West and thinks the East is an easier road...
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be absolutely stunned if Gasol left Memphis 1st round exit or not. The West is so bunched up that a loss to Dallas or the Spurs wouldn't blow anyone away.
The only reason i mention first round loss, is becuse maybe he realizes it is to hard in the West and thinks the East is an easier road...
Enough to pass on MORE than 30 million extra? No chance.
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be absolutely stunned if Gasol left Memphis 1st round exit or not. The West is so bunched up that a loss to Dallas or the Spurs wouldn't blow anyone away.
The only reason i mention first round loss, is becuse maybe he realizes it is to hard in the West and thinks the East is an easier road...
Enough to pass on MORE than 30 million extra? No chance.
I never said it was a good chance...i said thats their ONLY chance...
So this is weird. If I do a Google image search for dumpster fire, about 90% of the first 100 hits are the same image. Never seen anything like it before, but apparently this is THE dumpster fire:
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That's the definition of a shortsighted quick fix.
I want Green #1 but Monroe is my #2 choice.
i am not saying Knicks wil land a bigtime max guy, but the difference between 2010 and now is Melo...
if Knicks have Melo in 2010 they have a fighting chance to land Lebron...
The key to free agency is having the star in place to recruit, which the Knicks do have...
Will it work? who knows but this is different then 2010...
If Wade is in Chicago or New York the big 3 is in Chicago or New York...
is it a lock that Memphis offers him the full 5 year max?
Calderon/Galloway
FA SG
Melo
Green or Monroe
Towns or Okafor
Then you have roughly another 25 million to make a splash next year to add to this team, then potentially another 15 after that...
Towns is the better fit with Monroe...
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Marc Gasol would need to leave over 30 million dollar on the table to leave a town he "grew up" for a team with the worst record in the NBA, the least future talent in the NBA (on the current roster) etc. It's not happening.
is it a lock that Memphis offers him the full 5 year max?
I don't see any reason to believe they won't outside of "working with Gasol" to take a little less to have more to spend on other players. They can offer 30 million more + no state tax. The money won't be even close unless Memphis chooses to let it be so.
Phil is important but Melo is the one who recruits...
Think about it, If Melo is in the room in 2010 recruiting Lebron with Walsh, isnt that a more impactful recruiting pitch rather than just Walsh and D'antoni...
You need a star player to recruit other star players, players are not going to leave their current team to go to another team without another player already in place....
Nowadays star players are looking to team up so if you have one already in place your ahead of the game...
2) By Green, do you mean Jeff Green? Why not Tobias Harris as opposed to a tweener forward w a previous/major health issue?
3) Monroe/Jackson would be the best FA duo in my opinion. Towns, Monroe, Melo, Hardaway/Schved, Jackson would be the best cased (reasonable) scenario.
dont get me rong presenting a good management plan to a player is big but ultimately the player is worried about who he is playing with...
If their are no players on the team it doesnt matter how good ownership is no one is going to go there...
You do know that Lebron wanted Melo to be apart of the big 3...when they first talked Melo was the 3rd guy but Melo instead listening to his Agent at the time and his family took the longer extension rather then taking the shorter one...in turn Lebron recruited Bosh...
The stars in this league do not view Melo like you do...
and he is not a winner? this just makes me laugh....why is he not a winner? becuase he hasnt won a championship?
The guy went to the playoffs every single year in the west, who was the best guy he played with? he carried those teams...
He has won on every level..won in high school, actually beat Lebron when no one was beating Lebron in high school...
Won in College and carried a Syracuse team as freshamn to a national championship...
But yes Melo is not a winner
I agree it puts a damper on things but you may get the players thinking if i team up with Melo we can turn this thing around...
Again will it work? who the hell knows but i do think they are in better shape with melo now then in 2010 going into free agency even with the shit record..
Syracuse was 12 years ago. High School was....high school, are we really citing high school wins?
Syracuse was 12 years ago. High School was....high school, are we really citing high school wins?
So him carrying denver to the playoffs in the West doesnt count?
Chris Paul wanted to play with Melo
Amar'e Stoudemire wanted to play with Melo
This no one wants to play with Melo baffles me...
I agree Stu the Knicks should focus on Monroe as he is younger and on the rise.
You say all he does is ISo and take all the shots...ok so who is he supposed to pass to? who was the POint Guard on his team that was going to set up the offense?
When he played with a competent PG he made it to the West Finals...
You realize the teams he lost to in the playoffs were the Spurs and Lakers...the only time his team was favored and lost in the west was when they played Utah and George Karl had to leave the team...
So by your standards is Barkley a winner? Ewing? Reggie Miller? Chris Webber? Steve Nash? Tim Hardaway? Bernard King? Dominique Wilkins? John Stockton? Karl Malone?
By your standards who are winners? is it only the players that won championships?
All these guys had repeated playoff success (i.e. many series won). Carmelo has won 2 playoff series in his whole career.
But when they added Phil Jackson to the mix, I started to keep an eye out once again. Looking at the team right now I am starting to try to hope once again. If they are able to land either Okafor or Towns for the 2015/1016 season, plus add another very good piece on top of that in this off season, add some of the important role players, then add another piece in the 2016/2017 off season, then add another piece in the 2017/2018 off season, at that point I think that with Jackson having the team for 3 1/2 years, and having had 4 off seasons to add the pieces needed to make this team a championship caliber team, the team could be ready to challenge and also finally have the base to build off of to keep them relevant for a good 10 year run, now they will be replacing Melo, but he has a max contract, and they should be able to add the right player/players needed at that point to keep things rolling.
Maybe I am all wrong, and I want to hear what people think of if they are also hoping for this but think that this is not going to work for whatever reason/reasons, I sure would love to hear your input.
IMO Nuggets Melo was grossly overrated. He was never even remotely close to being a Top 5 player in the league. He was a borderline Top 10 player during his best years in Denver.
Knicks Melo has been better. The 3pt shot has helped his game. But the problem with Melo is that I think '13/'14 will go down as his peak seasons. He was a Top 7/8ish player during that 2-year span. I thought he was the 4th best player in the world in '13.
Now in his 30s and coming off of an injury-plagued season, I just can't see him ever being a Top 8 player in the league again. Too many young guys have passed him up this year.
I think he can still be a valuable piece to a successful machine like older Pierce was to the Celtics. But the Knicks have a long way to go to create a team like that.
All these guys had repeated playoff success (i.e. many series won). Carmelo has won 2 playoff series in his whole career.
Name me the great player Melo played with? he was by himself with those teams and carried them...but you just keep ignoring that fact...
When he actually had a good player next to him in Billups he sacrificed Shots and points for the betterment of the team and they went to the West Finals...
Ok here is a better comparison..was KG a winner BEFORE he went to Boston?