Chip Kelly: I rated Odell Beckham No. 1 overall in last year

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...shit.

Show me the pre-2014 Draft piece with Kelly quoted as saying this.

assholes. Buddy Ryan pretty much embodied everything that I hated about the Eagles and their fans. Buddy was full of shit and a dirty coach, and the fans loved that. But he never won a playoff game and at some point, that act wears thin.

Kelly is different. He's full of shit, but in a way that he seems to think he's smarter than everyone else and has figured the game out. But I think he's on thin ice there because it seems even the Eagle fans aren't sure what he's doing. If the Eagles get off to a slow start, that whole thing could well collapse on itself.

To be honest, if you look at how the NFL execs have been acting, they seem to be goading Chip. The statements about Mariotta from Tennessee. Even the Redskins saying they might go for him. It's all pretty much clearly targeted at Chip. He's got a target on him because the GMs think they have a sucker on their hands.

As I said in other posts, there is no middle ground with Kelly. Either he's going to be a big success and become a pain in our collective asses for years. Or he'll be back coaching in college again and will never get back in the NFL.

Yep. Buddy Ryan never won a single playoff game for them and was barely over .500 in his tenure, but he's worshipped by them like he's Vince Lombardi. Meanwhile, Andy Reid, who at least got them close to a championship, was generally disliked.

that saying crap in Oregon is not the same as saying things in Philly/NFL..........

with the shit that flows out of his mouth.

The other teams in our division have been vocal about obj rightfully so.there's only been 2 other players we have had that I was this excited about at this point in their careers since I've been watching Giants football and that was LT and Eli

which everyone already knew. But it was confirmed yesterday.

At an earlier press conference after signing DeMarco Murray, he said the owner came to him and expressed the interest in Kelly taking full control. Kelly said he never asked.

Well yesterday, the owner said it was Kelly's idea.

Looking forward to watching him go down in flames.

In comment 12202711 M.S. said:

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...shit. Show me the pre-2014 Draft piece with Kelly quoted as saying this.

To be fair, no coach will speak before the draft as to who they rate the highest. However, he should say it shortly after the draft. So I agree he distorts the truth

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trying to sound like you aren't going to trade up for Mariota (which you are going to try to do at least)

I agree 100%. Kelly is trying too hard to say he isn't interested in trading up etc.

For some odd reason, Kelly's comments reminded me of the line in the movie Patton:

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There's absolutely no reason for us to assume the Germans are mounting a major offensive. The weather is awful, Their supplies are low, and the German army hasn't mounted a winter offensive since the time of Frederick the Great — therefore I believe that's exactly what they're going to do.

Lurie gave responsibility for all player selection decisions to Kelly. Roseman is still responsible for cap management, but Kelly now controls all personnel decisions including the draft. I suspect Kelly's comment regarding Beckham is an attempt to illustrate how much better Kelly's judgment compared to Roseman's and to assure Eagles fans that Lurie made the right decision.

In comment 12202916 GeofromNJ said:

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Lurie gave responsibility for all player selection decisions to Kelly. Roseman is still responsible for cap management, but Kelly now controls all personnel decisions including the draft. I suspect Kelly's comment regarding Beckham is an attempt to illustrate how much better Kelly's judgment compared to Roseman's and to assure Eagles fans that Lurie made the right decision.

Which is all well and good, but at the same time he's saying that he wouldn't have given up that much to get Beckham himself. Not even sure why bother mentioning the power structure change at that point, since according to Kelly it was irrelevant at the time.

In comment 12202803 Trainmaster said:

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Quote: trying to sound like you aren't going to trade up for Mariota (which you are going to try to do at least) I agree 100%. Kelly is trying too hard to say he isn't interested in trading up etc. For some odd reason, Kelly's comments reminded me of the line in the movie Patton: Quote: There's absolutely no reason for us to assume the Germans are mounting a major offensive. The weather is awful, Their supplies are low, and the German army hasn't mounted a winter offensive since the time of Frederick the Great — therefore I believe that's exactly what they're going to do.

the sllies were caught off guard by the 44 offensive. But point taken

And I had Tom Brady ranked #1 overall in his draft.

What a douche.

would have you convinced St Mary's school for the blind was a threat to beat ND.


Its just coach speak.

In comment 12202728 BillKo said:

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that saying crap in Oregon is not the same as saying things in Philly/NFL..........

Bingo...

then again every player that I would have taken first overall in every draft since I have been alive has gone on to be the best player each year in their draft.

and give up a lot and someone brings up his statement about not trading up for Beckham because it was too costly.

In comment 12202619 Rob in CT/NYC said:

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but he is getting dangerously close to referring to himself in the third person...

Don't you hate that? Klaatu does. Klaatu hates that a lot.

coaches end up in our division?

In comment 12203094 bradshaw44 said:

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coaches end up in our division?

Rex Ryan's in the AFC.

for God.

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In comment 12203094 bradshaw44 said: Quote: coaches end up in our division? Rex Ryan's in the AFC.

Very true.

but has anyone come across any chatter that it's well known among coaching circles and in Oregon that Chip is in fact gay? I heard this years ago from a friend from Oregon, and recently saw the same rumor crop up in the Deadspin comments section.

who gives a crap? And why bother posting it?

and hopefully, next time we play, OBJ and Cruz score TDs!

As good as he has been. Not they didn't think he would be great but he looks like a potential HOF type talent.

Kelly has turned into such a total asshole. Be nice to have him actually win something before he's been annointed as this genius. He's also a total liar and Ingive him credit. He's willing to lie and not care that people know it.

When he first came to the Jets. The dude's arrogance is amazing for having such a complete meltdown at the end of the year

he goes by the name Chip.

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Not they didn't think he would be great but he looks like a potential HOF type talent.

Maybe you should look up the definition of "great"?

Mike Evans looked great
Odell Beckham looked like a potential HOFer

I think that's what Matty's point is. Even if people were high on Beckham, no one thought he'd set the league on fire like he did.

I was just asking if anyone else heard the same thing. I just find it very surprising Philly is so darn progressive.

it IS the city of "brotherly love" after all.

and this is the reason he got full responsibility for Philly's drafting.

In comment 12203483 Ira said:

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and this is the reason he got full responsibility for Philly's drafting.

Damn you, Ira!

of Odell Beckham Jr. was when LSU played Alabama his junior year. The kid had almost 220 total yards and averaged 44 yards per kick return on four returns. He didn't score and didn't lead the team in receiving but he was easily the best athlete on the field against the undefeated and #1 ranked team in the country that would go on to win the NC in resounding fashion.

I watched that kid and he made the best players in the country look foolish. He looked like a pro against college kids.

that Kelly could easily have seen the same things from OBJ - and certainly so with more film, experience evaluating college players (especially skill guys from his time at UO) and a staff to back him up.

And this was a kid that was relatively lightly recruited by LSU, Miami, Miss State, Tulane, Ole Miss and Nebraska. He was a bit undersized out of HS and didn't exactly test out off the charts in the 40, shuttle or VJ.

His career trajectory is most likely off the charts however and something that hasn't been paralleled by many in the last decade.

referred to OBJ as an nfl player playing college football.

He wouldn't give up to move up?

but decided to play video games on my vacation instead.

...but not their top five. He also said they had him ranked ahead of Mike Evans, but behind Sammy Watkins.

And not embarrassed to share that!


Milton, happy Passover...

In comment 12203711 Milton said:

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...but not their top five. He also said they had him ranked ahead of Mike Evans, but behind Sammy Watkins.

I'd be interested to see what Sammy can do with a real QB. From the few Bills games I've actually watched, he seems to almost always be open.

Sandy Koufax?

I thik Chip Kelley is either a total Head Case or A Frigging Genious - Im swinging to te Genious though Heres Why

It seems to me that Chip is playing a game an he is winning the game he is playing. Heres why!!

Chip has stated quite a few things that are totaly contradicting other statemets that he has stated previously. By doing this he has a lot of other teams GMs thinking he is totaly out of his league or is out of his mind.

For instance he traded McCoy away for "Cap Reasons" then signs DeMarco Murray for More money and signes Ryan Matthews a day later. He also traded Nick Foles (Who really was good in that offense) for an injury prone Bradford who in all due respect more than likely wont be a mobile QB anymore. Everyone knows beyond a shadow of a doubt he has a real man love for Mariotta and if he can work a deal on draft will go for him. Now with that said it is well known that the Browns offered the Eagles a #1 pick for Bradford but Kelley turned it down.

Im thinking Kelley will make a draft day deal with the Browns for their 1st pick with Bradford and Ryan Matthews for that pick to get Mariotta. The Browns have no real NFL Sarting QB -- They wanted Braford eve before the Eagles acquired him. They also need a RB -- Im thinking Kelley would trade Bradford and Matthews with maybe a 6th or 7th round pick to sweeten the deal and keep their higher picks inste of sellingthe farm so to speak. Of Course this is my speculaton.

Now is he NUTS or is He a GENIOUS if this comes to pass? You tell me

is so freakin' arrogant I can't stand it.

In comment 12202726 Greg from LI said:

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Yep. Buddy Ryan never won a single playoff game for them and was barely over .500 in his tenure, but he's worshipped by them like he's Vince Lombardi. Meanwhile, Andy Reid, who at least got them close to a championship, was generally disliked.

Let's see how the Chipster does now that the players Reid bequeathed him are gradually leaving the team or given the boot.

In comment 12204641 Triple "G" said:

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I thik Chip Kelley is either a total Head Case or A Frigging Genious - Im swinging to te Genious though Heres Why It seems to me that Chip is playing a game an he is winning the game he is playing. Heres why!! Chip has stated quite a few things that are totaly contradicting other statemets that he has stated previously. By doing this he has a lot of other teams GMs thinking he is totaly out of his league or is out of his mind. For instance he traded McCoy away for "Cap Reasons" then signs DeMarco Murray for More money and signes Ryan Matthews a day later. He also traded Nick Foles (Who really was good in that offense) for an injury prone Bradford who in all due respect more than likely wont be a mobile QB anymore. Everyone knows beyond a shadow of a doubt he has a real man love for Mariotta and if he can work a deal on draft will go for him. Now with that said it is well known that the Browns offered the Eagles a #1 pick for Bradford but Kelley turned it down. Im thinking Kelley will make a draft day deal with the Browns for their 1st pick with Bradford and Ryan Matthews for that pick to get Mariotta. The Browns have no real NFL Sarting QB -- They wanted Braford eve before the Eagles acquired him. They also need a RB -- Im thinking Kelley would trade Bradford and Matthews with maybe a 6th or 7th round pick to sweeten the deal and keep their higher picks inste of sellingthe farm so to speak. Of Course this is my speculaton. Now is he NUTS or is He a GENIOUS if this comes to pass? You tell me

I mean....maybe. If the Browns want Bradford that badly they have bigger problems than missing on all those other draft picks. But then why wouldn't the Browns just call the Rams directly and offer the 12th for Bradford before Philly could offer Foles?