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Nick in LA : 3/25/2015 1:09 pm
Anyone else out there sad at the news that Jeremy Clarkson and the boys will not be back? It is my favorite show and I hope those 3 go to netflix or something and create a new show for us. I know what he did was wrong but I am going to miss Top Gear.
Clarkson sacked - ( New Window )
I've got a 12 year old  
BillT : 3/25/2015 1:24 pm : link
That's just crushed about this. His favorite show.
It's too bad  
Greg from LI : 3/25/2015 1:26 pm : link
But you can't treat people the way Clarkson does and not eventually get fired.
Exactly. I love that show, but he's been a colossal ass and BBC can't  
BeerFridge : 3/25/2015 1:30 pm : link
just allow him to act that way because he's great on TV.
this fucking sucks  
SicilianGMEN : 3/25/2015 1:30 pm : link
Jeremy Clarkson IS Top Gear....the other 2 said they won't do the show without clarkson last week I believe
I hope people...  
Chris in Philly : 3/25/2015 1:37 pm : link
blame Clarkson for being a bag of cunts and nobody else.
RE: Exactly. I love that show, but he's been a colossal ass and BBC can't  
Greg from LI : 3/25/2015 1:40 pm : link
In comment 12202824 BeerFridge said:
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just allow him to act that way because he's great on TV.


If only he'd been a child molester like Jimmy Savile! Then the BBC would have had no problem looking the other way.

Note - I agree that he deserved the ax. I just think it's funny that the BBC suddenly has standards.
Gotta start somewhere.  
BeerFridge : 3/25/2015 1:50 pm : link
I never even heard of that other guy, but just googled him. Wow.
Yep. And the BBC, even now, is still trying to cover their asses  
Greg from LI : 3/25/2015 1:55 pm : link
It's actually been in the news a bit lately.

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Jones was one of the BBC’s best investigative producers. He had suspected that Savile was not the “national treasure” the BBC, NHS, monarchy and public adored, ever since he had seen Savile take girls away in his car from an approved school his aunt ran in the 1970s. He broke the story which showed that Savile was one of the most prolific sex abusers in British history, and handed the BBC what would have been one of its biggest scoops. If it had run it. Which, of course, it did not. The editor of Newsnight banned the report. Thus began a cover-up which tore the BBC apart.

A week ago, Jones’s managers told him that a temporary assignment on Panorama was over. He should have been able to go back to his old job. But there was no old job to go back to. He had been fired.

Jones’s reporter on the Savile film was Liz MacKean, who documents the sufferings of the powerless – whether it be raped children in Britain or persecuted gay men in Putin’s Russia. But she spoke out, so the BBC forced her out too. “When the Savile scandal broke,” she told me, “the BBC tried to smear my reputation. They said they had banned the film because Meirion and I had produced shoddy journalism. I stayed to fight them, but I knew they would make me leave in the end. Managers would look through me as if I wasn’t there. I went because I knew I was never going to appear on screen again.”


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Top Gear was the 3 guys  
HomerJones45 : 3/25/2015 2:35 pm : link
They will a different cast and the show will suck hard just like the American version of it did.

Yeah Clarkson behaved badly and he had a big mouth. If only he had been a serial child molester.

Watch Netflix or HBO or the Discovery group snap up the old cast and put the show back on. That show was worth too much money to let it sit.
I think Clarkson  
English Alaister : 3/25/2015 2:51 pm : link
Knows exactly what he is doing. He wanted out.

True story...I had tickets for the cancelled episode after many years of waiting list. #fml
Maybe James May  
NewFakeDannyHeep : 3/25/2015 3:00 pm : link
can do more shows about toys.
RE: I think Clarkson  
UAGiant : 3/25/2015 3:13 pm : link
In comment 12203087 English Alaister said:
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Knows exactly what he is doing. He wanted out.

True story...I had tickets for the cancelled episode after many years of waiting list. #fml


Their contracts were all up after this month/April - so they were free agents, though likely to re-sign to one of the most lucrative properties out there. This is also why May and Hammond have the leverage they do right now.

From the sounds of it, they had a shoot go long with no food and only alcohol (possibly copious amounts) and Clarkson - likely even more difficult to deal with due to a few personal issues (including a messy divorce that's gone public thanks to the man no country wants, Piers Morgan) - blew up over something small. Not justifying it, but it doesn't sound like he just decided to cold cock someone for a laugh.

The three realize they're a package deal and I'm sure the BBC will keep the property going with other personalities attached, but will likely realize its the three of them that make the show. So long as they end up somewhere that lets them do the same format show without commercial influence (so they don't have to pretend a Mustang is proper sports car when Ford signs a check) - we will get the spiritual successor. Though it will likely be a while.
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Chris in Philly : 3/25/2015 3:22 pm : link
In comment 12203153 UAGiant said:
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Knows exactly what he is doing. He wanted out.

True story...I had tickets for the cancelled episode after many years of waiting list. #fml



Their contracts were all up after this month/April - so they were free agents, though likely to re-sign to one of the most lucrative properties out there. This is also why May and Hammond have the leverage they do right now.

From the sounds of it, they had a shoot go long with no food and only alcohol (possibly copious amounts) and Clarkson - likely even more difficult to deal with due to a few personal issues (including a messy divorce that's gone public thanks to the man no country wants, Piers Morgan) - blew up over something small. Not justifying it, but it doesn't sound like he just decided to cold cock someone for a laugh.

The three realize they're a package deal and I'm sure the BBC will keep the property going with other personalities attached, but will likely realize its the three of them that make the show. So long as they end up somewhere that lets them do the same format show without commercial influence (so they don't have to pretend a Mustang is proper sports car when Ford signs a check) - we will get the spiritual successor. Though it will likely be a while.


The show is great but Clarkson has a long history of being a jackass...
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bigbluescot : 3/25/2015 3:27 pm : link
In comment 12203153 UAGiant said:
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Knows exactly what he is doing. He wanted out.

True story...I had tickets for the cancelled episode after many years of waiting list. #fml



Their contracts were all up after this month/April - so they were free agents, though likely to re-sign to one of the most lucrative properties out there. This is also why May and Hammond have the leverage they do right now.

From the sounds of it, they had a shoot go long with no food and only alcohol (possibly copious amounts) and Clarkson - likely even more difficult to deal with due to a few personal issues (including a messy divorce that's gone public thanks to the man no country wants, Piers Morgan) - blew up over something small. Not justifying it, but it doesn't sound like he just decided to cold cock someone for a laugh.

The three realize they're a package deal and I'm sure the BBC will keep the property going with other personalities attached, but will likely realize its the three of them that make the show. So long as they end up somewhere that lets them do the same format show without commercial influence (so they don't have to pretend a Mustang is proper sports car when Ford signs a check) - we will get the spiritual successor. Though it will likely be a while.


The BBC will keep the property going, it's been around since 1972.

Clarkson was on a final, final warning before this blew up. Even then the BBC was scrambling for a way out of it. Ultimately, they couldn't as they'd have open to action if they'd have kept him on. He struck a subordinate co-worker in public, regardless of who you are that's never a good look. Had it been a first time offense he'd have probably got suspended but after the warnings he's had over the last 18 months, and frankly after Saville, they were backed into a corner.

At the end of the day, part of the reason we all pay a TV license in the UK is so the BBC is largely free of commercial pressure.

They let go of Jonathan Ross (a huge celebrity talk show host over here) for far less.
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UAGiant : 3/25/2015 3:31 pm : link
In comment 12203177 Chris in Philly said:
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Knows exactly what he is doing. He wanted out.

True story...I had tickets for the cancelled episode after many years of waiting list. #fml



Their contracts were all up after this month/April - so they were free agents, though likely to re-sign to one of the most lucrative properties out there. This is also why May and Hammond have the leverage they do right now.

From the sounds of it, they had a shoot go long with no food and only alcohol (possibly copious amounts) and Clarkson - likely even more difficult to deal with due to a few personal issues (including a messy divorce that's gone public thanks to the man no country wants, Piers Morgan) - blew up over something small. Not justifying it, but it doesn't sound like he just decided to cold cock someone for a laugh.

The three realize they're a package deal and I'm sure the BBC will keep the property going with other personalities attached, but will likely realize its the three of them that make the show. So long as they end up somewhere that lets them do the same format show without commercial influence (so they don't have to pretend a Mustang is proper sports car when Ford signs a check) - we will get the spiritual successor. Though it will likely be a while.



The show is great but Clarkson has a long history of being a jackass...


Understood - he's walked (and stomped over) the line many times. Although the Falklands thing was a bit contrived by the locals, he's obviously front and center any time controversy hits. Its also why he's entertaining/compelling to watch, though it definitely goes too far.

I don't want to pretend what he did (or has done) is acceptable, but I'll likely ditch Top Gear when it rolls out the replacements and follow the three of the current (I guess former?) talent goes. It sounds enabling to Clarkson to be an asshole and get away with it (and maybe it is), but that's kind of the dynamic they have captured and why its entertaining to watch.

The American version of Top Gear is awful to watch (though that gets to my comment about being commercially influenced), so its more than just a show about putting 3 people in dream cars in exotic locales, etc.
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UAGiant : 3/25/2015 3:35 pm : link
In comment 12203189 bigbluescot said:
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Knows exactly what he is doing. He wanted out.

True story...I had tickets for the cancelled episode after many years of waiting list. #fml



Their contracts were all up after this month/April - so they were free agents, though likely to re-sign to one of the most lucrative properties out there. This is also why May and Hammond have the leverage they do right now.

From the sounds of it, they had a shoot go long with no food and only alcohol (possibly copious amounts) and Clarkson - likely even more difficult to deal with due to a few personal issues (including a messy divorce that's gone public thanks to the man no country wants, Piers Morgan) - blew up over something small. Not justifying it, but it doesn't sound like he just decided to cold cock someone for a laugh.

The three realize they're a package deal and I'm sure the BBC will keep the property going with other personalities attached, but will likely realize its the three of them that make the show. So long as they end up somewhere that lets them do the same format show without commercial influence (so they don't have to pretend a Mustang is proper sports car when Ford signs a check) - we will get the spiritual successor. Though it will likely be a while.



The BBC will keep the property going, it's been around since 1972.

Clarkson was on a final, final warning before this blew up. Even then the BBC was scrambling for a way out of it. Ultimately, they couldn't as they'd have open to action if they'd have kept him on. He struck a subordinate co-worker in public, regardless of who you are that's never a good look. Had it been a first time offense he'd have probably got suspended but after the warnings he's had over the last 18 months, and frankly after Saville, they were backed into a corner.

At the end of the day, part of the reason we all pay a TV license in the UK is so the BBC is largely free of commercial pressure.

They let go of Jonathan Ross (a huge celebrity talk show host over here) for far less.


I likely shouldn't have put Clarkson's action in context, as it seems like I'm excusing it. The BBC's hands were ultimately tied and there was no other course of action. Yes, they've failed with other personalities - but that doesn't give them an excuse to allow for physical violence in the work place because of celebrity status.

I agree Top Gear will go on, but do question if it will be a cultural phenomenon as it has been. Finding that mix of personality is hard to replicate/duplicate.
I largely watch because  
Nick in LA : 3/25/2015 4:43 pm : link
of the 3 presenters. While I love the format it definitely takes a back seat to the presenters. The 3 of them should do a show on netflix that just centers around their specials(or adventures if you will). That would be a great show to watch. I cant get enough Clarkson, Hammond and May.
Yeah  
English Alaister : 3/25/2015 5:27 pm : link
They are going to be awesome on Sky/Fox given free rein and big money.
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