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Falcons and Browns looking at severe penalties

montanagiant : 3/26/2015 6:16 pm
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According to Adam Schefter, the Atlanta Falcons and Cleveland Browns were informed of their pending punishments for pumping in crowd noise and illegally texting coaches in-game, respectively. The penalties will be announced next week, Schefter says, and they will reportedly be "severe."

That'll likely mean some combinations of fines, docked draft picks, and in the Browns' case, a suspension for GM Ray Farmer. But whatever the details, Atlanta's punishment definitely ought to be harsher than Cleveland's.

The Falcons sought a definite, quantifiable competitive advantage when they broadcast artificial crowd noise into the Georgia Dome over the last two seasons, seeking to drown out the other team's quarterback at the line of scrimmage. It required coordination, and it was no accident: owner Arthur Blank called it "wrong" and "embarrassing."

This line from the Journal-Constitution's story on the penalties should mitigate the outrage somewhat, but still:

Ironically, during last season the Falcons had to use silent counts because of crowd noise from the visiting teams' fans who overtook the Georgia Dome.

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I don't see what the big deal is with the GM texting the coach  
ZogZerg : 3/26/2015 6:19 pm : link
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Hopefully it's Atlanta's  
Simms11 : 3/26/2015 6:21 pm : link
1st round pick, but highly unlikely. I think it would likely be a 2nd or 3rd rounder, which is also pretty harsh.
If there is a coordinated effort from the club to cheat  
Ben in Tampa : 3/26/2015 6:32 pm : link
Like the Falcons did, it should result in the forfeit Number 1 pick.

Minnesota? Seattle?  
mattlawson : 3/26/2015 6:37 pm : link
No?
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Danny Kanell : 3/26/2015 6:38 pm : link
Hasn't Seattle been doing it for years?
Seattle is very clever  
mrvax : 3/26/2015 6:45 pm : link
they paid a lot of $ to hide their system. I'm sure the NFL has tried to find it during games but hasn't yet. You might hear Seattle games being quieter in 2015 due to these severe punishments.
If Atlanta should lose a second or third round pick,  
wgenesis123 : 3/26/2015 6:54 pm : link
how will it effect them at pick 8? They may be trying real hard to trade back and recover the lost pick. If not who will they be more inclined to draft?
Overall, This Is Silly  
Trainmaster : 3/26/2015 7:14 pm : link
Just put speakers in the helmet of every player on offense so they can hear the QB up to the snap of the ball. The players would only be able to hear the QB, not the OC / coaches. Let the fans yell as loud as they want (real or artificial).
Seattle built their stadium  
English Alaister : 3/26/2015 7:21 pm : link
to be noisy as all hell. They don't need the artificial stuff anymore.
RE: I don't see what the big deal is with the GM texting the coach  
GeofromNJ : 3/26/2015 7:55 pm : link
In comment 12205108 ZogZerg said:
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Neither do I, Zog. If the GM knows more about the game and the players currently on the field than his coaching staff, he hired the wrong staff.
RE: Seattle is very clever  
GeofromNJ : 3/26/2015 8:17 pm : link
In comment 12205161 mrvax said:
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they paid a lot of $ to hide their system. I'm sure the NFL has tried to find it during games but hasn't yet. You might hear Seattle games being quieter in 2015 due to these severe punishments.

I also used to think Seattle pumped in noise too, but now I'm not so sure. Several sports writers who attended the Seattle/Denver Super Bowl in the Met Life stadium said they never heard the place so loud. In addition, the upper deck overhang in CenturyLink stadium is curved back toward the playing field which causes sound waves to bounce back toward the field. Seahawks fans have a tradition of screaming at the top of their lungs when the opposition is about to snap the ball. They are very proud of this tradition, and they are also very weird.
Is it just the GM, or is pretty much anyone not on the coaching staff  
jcn56 : 3/26/2015 8:19 pm : link
prohibited from sending texts during the game? The only thing I could think is that maybe camera angles/broadcasts reveal some strategic information that could be useful but otherwise not obtainable by the coaching staff?
Seattle  
blue42 : 3/26/2015 8:41 pm : link
should have spent that artificial crowd noise money on play call analysis from the 1 yard line.
Good every draft pick they lose moves us one spot closer...  
raever : 3/26/2015 10:40 pm : link
...to a player we want.
jcn56, it's a pretty wide ban  
Sneakers O'toole : 3/27/2015 1:21 am : link
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The use of cell phones during games is addressed in the NFL Game Operations Manual under a section labeled "coaching aids." The part pertaining to cell phones states:

"This prohibition also applies to the use of any electronic communication devices, including but not limited to a cell phone, smart phone, tablet device, or any type of computer, whether online or stand-alone, including laptop and hand-held computers, in the coaches' booths, on the sidelines, in the locker room (after kickoff), or in any other club-controlled area on game day beginning ninety (90) minutes prior to kickoff and continuing through the end of the game, including halftime (with the exception of League-issued tablets used for coaches' still photos).

"Team doctors and members of the athletic training staff are permitted to use tablet devices, cell phones, smart phones, or similar devices within the bench area and locker room to communicate player injury information, but may not communicate competitive or strategic information.

"Club football operations staff members are permitted to use cell phones outside the coaches' booths, bench areas, and locker rooms only when handling non-competitive and/or non-strategic communication."

The league's electronic devices rule also states:

"Unless specifically permitted by league rules, the use of cellular phones, smart phones, tablet devices, computers, wearable electronic devices such as Google Glass, and other electronic equipment by coaches, players, and other club personnel is prohibited in club-controlled areas including, but not limited to, sidelines and coaches' booths.

"These restrictions apply from ninety (90) minutes prior to kickoff through the end of the game, including halftime. Coaches, players, and other team personnel are permitted to use such electronic devices in the locker room prior to kickoff and are permitted to use league-issued Microsoft Surface tablets throughout game day for viewing coaches' still photos."


Here is the link to the article I found and quoted

Troy Polamalu got fined 10K from calling his wife to let her know he was OK after a hard hit a few years ago with a phone he borrowed from a trainer or someone on the medical staff, and that was considered a violation
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Here is the Polamalu  
Sneakers O'toole : 3/27/2015 1:23 am : link
story as well
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RE: RE: I don't see what the big deal is with the GM texting the coach  
BillKo : 3/27/2015 9:37 am : link
In comment 12205310 GeofromNJ said:
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In comment 12205108 ZogZerg said:

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Neither do I, Zog. If the GM knows more about the game and the players currently on the field than his coaching staff, he hired the wrong staff.


It's not so much the GM, they just don't want anyone texting coaches on the field.

The idea is...this is supposed to be a controlled environment...without outside interference. That would include the GM, who unless he's on the sideline is "outside" the game.

So I do understand the rule.
RE: Minnesota? Seattle?  
giants#1 : 3/27/2015 9:44 am : link
In comment 12205147 mattlawson said:
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Minnesota's load because of the dome. I've been to a few games and it's very unlikely they pump in noise.

Seattle's another story, but the NFL probably loves their "12th man" stories so I doubt anything happens there.
^load = loud  
giants#1 : 3/27/2015 9:47 am : link
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Haven't the Browns suffered enough  
Dunedin81 : 3/27/2015 9:48 am : link
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LOL Dunedin!  
dee-fense : 3/27/2015 5:23 pm : link
thanks
'Falcons and Browns looking at severe penalties'...  
Torrag : 3/27/2015 5:41 pm : link
yet all we hear is silence regarding Deflategate...
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