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If the Giants picked 1st overall

DanMetroMan : 3/26/2015 6:22 pm
who would you take? No trading.
The NY Giants Select Leonard Williams  
BigBluDawg : 3/26/2015 6:27 pm : link
DT Southern Cal .
sprint to the podium for Leonard Williams...  
Capt. Don : 3/26/2015 6:27 pm : link
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I would pick  
Carl in CT : 3/26/2015 6:27 pm : link
Williams
Leonard Williams, which is probably the popular pick  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 3/26/2015 6:28 pm : link
a guy who can play DT or DE, I think he could wreak havoc in the middle next to Hank and JPP.
Jameis Winston  
section125 : 3/26/2015 6:30 pm : link
...
Leonard Williams  
dep026 : 3/26/2015 6:32 pm : link
would probably have been announced already.
Williams  
SanFranNowNCGiantsFan : 3/26/2015 6:43 pm : link
Or Cooper.
RE: Williams  
TheCatch : 3/26/2015 6:48 pm : link
In comment 12205159 SanFranNowNCGiantsFan said:
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Or Cooper.


Ditto
Williams  
mrvax : 3/26/2015 6:49 pm : link
If no Beckham, probably Cooper.
RE: Leonard Williams  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 3/26/2015 7:01 pm : link
In comment 12205141 dep026 said:
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would probably have been announced already.


Exactly.
Spags would be  
rebel yell : 3/26/2015 7:10 pm : link
going crazy to get Williams imagining the damage and disruption he could cause! Our LBs would look a lot better too!
I would take the highest ranked player from Syracuse or BC  
EricJ : 3/26/2015 7:15 pm : link
...actually, if the Giants thought highly of Mariotta and felt like he had the ability to be a top tier franchise QB, then I would take him. This is not a knock on Eli. This does not mean I want the kid to play QB for us next season. However, since franchise QBs like Eli do not grow on trees AND you never know when you will be in position to select one....you have to take him. It then gives us options with Eli and his contract in the next few seasons.

Remember this. After drafting Simms, I dont think we were in position to select another top ranked QB until Eli. that was 20 years. I really do not want to be one of those teams that is trying a new QB every year once Eli decides to retire.
Goodell would not even be  
figgy2989 : 3/26/2015 7:27 pm : link
able to finish saying "and the new york Giants are on the...." And the Williams pick would be in his hand.
Leonard Williams  
Anakim : 3/26/2015 7:35 pm : link
Not even a question
Williams or Winston  
Giants2012 : 3/26/2015 7:58 pm : link
A dominant DT or the possible franchise QB.

It's a QB league and if the kid can learn from Eli, that could be worth 8-10 at QB in a QB league.
RE: Williams or Winston  
EricJ : 3/26/2015 8:08 pm : link
In comment 12205317 Giants2012 said:
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A dominant DT or the possible franchise QB.

It's a QB league and if the kid can learn from Eli, that could be worth 8-10 at QB in a QB league.


The Giants would never draft Winston.
Can I trade the pick to the Eagles?  
wgenesis123 : 3/26/2015 8:13 pm : link
Williams makes the most sense if you have to make the pick. Trading down would be more appealing. Even one or two spots would be great. Rarely is there a player equal to the value you want at pick number one.
It's a QB legue Eric  
Giants2012 : 3/26/2015 8:13 pm : link
The guy is more valuable in you hands as a QB or trade bait than he id elsewhere.
Williams would be signed by April 29  
eli4life : 3/26/2015 8:39 pm : link
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Rocky Thompson  
Earl the goat : 3/26/2015 8:41 pm : link
Or Gordon King
Winston, if the personality issues seemed OK in our interviews  
yatqb : 3/26/2015 9:23 pm : link
and investigations. You don't fail to select a franchise QB. Then I'd have to trade Eli and get set up for another long run.
Leonard Williams  
raever : 3/26/2015 10:17 pm : link
No brainer
Williams  
ben apuna's fanbase : 3/27/2015 8:22 am : link
But if Gurley didn't have the knee...
Leonard Williams  
Victor in CT : 3/27/2015 8:35 am : link
no brainer
RE: Goodell would not even be  
OC2.0 : 3/27/2015 10:15 am : link
In comment 12205240 figgy2989 said:
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able to finish saying "and the new york Giants are on the...." And the Williams pick would be in his hand.


^^^
Absolutely
Leonard Williams  
Torrag : 3/27/2015 10:18 am : link
pretty simple
Karl  
Jon in NYC : 3/27/2015 10:28 am : link
Anthony Towns
LW  
JonC : 3/27/2015 10:29 am : link
without question or hesitation.
RE: It's a QB legue Eric  
EricJ : 3/27/2015 10:31 am : link
In comment 12205344 Giants2012 said:
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The guy is more valuable in you hands as a QB or trade bait than he id elsewhere.


Dan opened the thread by saying "no trading". So, my response was purely whether the Giants would draft Winston to be a QB on our team. The answer is....never.
Leonard Williams  
YorkAveGiant : 3/27/2015 11:38 am : link
would have an apartment here and been lifting weights at the Quest Center weeks ago.
RE: RE: It's a QB legue Eric  
section125 : 3/27/2015 11:39 am : link
In comment 12206104 EricJ said:
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The guy is more valuable in you hands as a QB or trade bait than he id elsewhere.



Dan opened the thread by saying "no trading". So, my response was purely whether the Giants would draft Winston to be a QB on our team. The answer is....never.


Why never?
Winston  
giantBCP : 3/27/2015 11:49 am : link
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Trade down  
spike : 3/27/2015 1:06 pm : link
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RE: Trade down  
spike : 3/27/2015 1:06 pm : link
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Oops. Take Williams. pass rusher is a major need for our defense.
RE: RE: RE: It's a QB legue Eric  
EricJ : 3/27/2015 1:30 pm : link
In comment 12206336 section125 said:
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The guy is more valuable in you hands as a QB or trade bait than he id elsewhere.



Dan opened the thread by saying "no trading". So, my response was purely whether the Giants would draft Winston to be a QB on our team. The answer is....never.



Why never?


Why? well, for starters it has been broadly discussed that Winston is immature. This is not something the Giants are going to gamble on when you consider the fact that the QB should be the most mature player on the field.

Second, he has had an off of the field incident that is a significant red flag. Especially for a team like the Giants. If you watch that series on the NFL network called "Finding Giants", you will hear Reese constantly refer to a player as being "clean". Meaning, no baggage. Nothing to worry about regarding any potential to get into trouble off of the field. So, HE has made that a huge priority. Factor that into potentially drafting a player that would ultimately be your franchise QB and get paid over $20 million per season... yeah they would never draft him.
Are you kidding me ? Williams  
blueblood : 3/27/2015 1:35 pm : link
you would hear a rushing sound of like every fan from New York running top Chicago to snatch the card out of Reese's hand to put the pick in
I dont think  
spike : 3/27/2015 1:39 pm : link
Winston has the personality to handle New York media and its constant scrutiny.
RE: RE: RE: RE: It's a QB legue Eric  
section125 : 3/27/2015 1:58 pm : link
In comment 12206584 EricJ said:
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Why? well, for starters it has been broadly discussed that Winston is immature. This is not something the Giants are going to gamble on when you consider the fact that the QB should be the most mature player on the field.

Second, he has had an off of the field incident that is a significant red flag. Especially for a team like the Giants. If you watch that series on the NFL network called "Finding Giants", you will hear Reese constantly refer to a player as being "clean". Meaning, no baggage. Nothing to worry about regarding any potential to get into trouble off of the field. So, HE has made that a huge priority. Factor that into potentially drafting a player that would ultimately be your franchise QB and get paid over $20 million per season... yeah they would never draft him.


Ok so a 20 year old is immature off the field; they eventually grow up. Especially when the people around them are high character and he's not pampered.

Off field incidents - ok the biggie was the alleged rape which the DA refused to bring to a grand jury and then an independent arbiter (a retired FL supreme court judge) saw no grounds for his dismissal from school. I thought he was toast because of all the incidents but a judge thought otherwise.

You are not wrong to be worried about the immaturity and incidents, but I think that is where Jerry's interview would need to be thorough.

QB is the single most important position on the field and Winston repeatedly came up big on the big stage, playing in a pro-style offense. Is he perfect - nope throws off his back foot too often, throws into traffic, gets picked off too much.
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