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NFT: St John's Basketball: Lavin Out as Coach.

LarmerTJR : 3/27/2015 2:34 pm
Headline on CBS Sports, no details yet.
congrats to all the SJU fans on here  
Greg from LI : 3/27/2015 2:35 pm : link
You can finally try to move forward as a program.
Halle fuckin  
MookGiants : 3/27/2015 2:40 pm : link
lujah
Calling  
KWhite2250 : 3/27/2015 2:41 pm : link
Danny Hurley
Know your place in  
Rflairr : 3/27/2015 2:42 pm : link
sports. What exactly are they expecting at St Johns?
...  
26.2 : 3/27/2015 2:42 pm : link
would Anthony Grant be a good option there?
Zagoria on SNY  
KevinBBWC : 3/27/2015 2:46 pm : link
Saying Mullin, Hurley, and Masiello are top options at the moment.
No thanks  
MookGiants : 3/27/2015 2:48 pm : link
on Mullin. They need to stop this splash big name shit. Just get a good young coach and let's go
So in a day  
EricNY33 : 3/27/2015 2:49 pm : link
we got a report an extension was being finalized and now he's out. I bet the school wanted to give him a year or two and he demanded more.
Zagoria said he hearing nothing on Jackson  
KevinBBWC : 3/27/2015 2:50 pm : link
Those three the big names he hearing mostly.
RE: Know your place in  
EricNY33 : 3/27/2015 2:51 pm : link
In comment 12206749 Rflairr said:
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sports. What exactly are they expecting at St Johns?


Seriously? They're the 8th winningest program in college basketball history.
St. John's  
MookGiants : 3/27/2015 2:52 pm : link
shouldn't expect a coach to win a damn tournament game in 5 years? Look around college basketball, why should St. John's settle for shit? They aren't a top program but there's no reason they can't contend for a tournament berth every year and make a run every few years.
If these are really the choices  
arniefez : 3/27/2015 2:53 pm : link
who is the best choice?

Mullin, Masiello, Hurley brothers?
You have schools  
MookGiants : 3/27/2015 2:54 pm : link
like VCU, Wichita, Northern Iowa regularly winning in the tournament. You have Providence winning Big East titles and going to the tournament regularly. Xavier is in the tournament and competing nearly every year. Why should St. John's not expect to be Xavier?
Xavier  
MookGiants : 3/27/2015 2:57 pm : link
has been in the tournament 14 of the last 15 years. They've been in six sweet 16's since 2004.

Yet St. John's needs to know their place in college basketball. Kiss my ass.
Expectations?  
KWhite2250 : 3/27/2015 2:58 pm : link
How bout a coach who actually fills out a fucking full team and puts in the work recruiting? Lavin wanted to be UK, his expectations were way too high. Trying to get all top 50 kids and completely neglecting to get the kids that help the team be competitive year after year.

Was tired of all the ineligible kids, transfers, and morons like Jordan and Obekpa who dont do anything positive for the school with all the shit they caused.
No reason St. John's can't field a competitive .....  
Crispino : 3/27/2015 3:00 pm : link
Big East program, especially as the BE is currently constituted.
Damn that is an impressive run  
arniefez : 3/27/2015 3:05 pm : link
for Xavier. How do their facilities compare to St Johns? I heard a lot of conversation about St johns being at a huge facilities disadvantage especially since they built dorms. Is that true? Will the Iona coach get an interview?
RE: Damn that is an impressive run  
EricNY33 : 3/27/2015 3:08 pm : link
In comment 12206824 arniefez said:
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for Xavier. How do their facilities compare to St Johns? I heard a lot of conversation about St johns being at a huge facilities disadvantage especially since they built dorms. Is that true? Will the Iona coach get an interview?



They re-vamped everything a couple of years ago. I am alum I get the updates.
St Johns did?  
arniefez : 3/27/2015 3:10 pm : link
Is it true that before they had dorms the players got money to rent apartments and once the dorms were built that stopped?
RE: St Johns did?  
EricNY33 : 3/27/2015 3:11 pm : link
In comment 12206833 arniefez said:
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Is it true that before they had dorms the players got money to rent apartments and once the dorms were built that stopped?


Yes and yes...
or look at what Jay Wright has done at Villanova  
Greg from LI : 3/27/2015 3:11 pm : link
No reason St. John's shouldn't be as successful as Villanova.
they have really  
MookGiants : 3/27/2015 3:13 pm : link
nice townhouses on campus that the players live in now. Not as good as the old arrangement but the places they are living in are not dorms. Not on Kentucky or Kansas level by any means but they are more than fine, and their fieldhouse built about 10 years ago is a real nice facility.
Lavin pushed the limits on money  
marbles : 3/27/2015 3:18 pm : link
The school proposed a smaller increase, with incentives. That's when they started talking about buyouts as opposed to extension.

Heard Mullin does not want it, so he was never "asked."

One of the doners likes Masiello, but that Manhattan tree is crazy. And Masiello is crazy, not to mention he lied about the college degree. SJU will not go that way.

The Hurleys are in play. It will be weird since the school likes both of them.

Whoever it is they will hit the recruiting trail hard. Brandon Sampson is reopening his recruitment now that Lavin is gone.
Happy to hear that  
arniefez : 3/27/2015 3:18 pm : link
I've rooted for St Johns since I got to meet Coach Carnesecca. He was on his Nets sabbatical at the time. He was such a nice man I never forgot it. It would be nice to have a basketball team in NY that was worth watching on some level.
RE: So in a day  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/27/2015 3:23 pm : link
In comment 12206772 EricNY33 said:
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we got a report an extension was being finalized and now he's out. I bet the school wanted to give him a year or two and he demanded more.


Consider the source, but Michael Kay is on air claiming they had a source that said Lavin's representation floated the extension talks rumor
slightly o/t  
Greg from LI : 3/27/2015 3:23 pm : link
Rick Barnes has finally gotten a richly deserved pink slip. Some coach is going to be the beneficiary of the usual UT massive overpay.
Great news  
bxgiants4 : 3/27/2015 3:28 pm : link
Masiello is a guy I'm interested in! Hurleys also. Get me a worker!!

Mook is pwning this thread. Great points. No reason SJU can't be good n
I don't get the Danny Hurley deal  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 3/27/2015 3:28 pm : link
He hasn't made the tourney at Wagner or Rhode Island, so it's a big move based on potential and Jersey recruiting ties. Bobby at least made the tournament and is set up for a big year.

I would've went Cluess, so they missed the boat, because I think Masiello is another Gonzalez waiting to happen.

RE: slightly o/t  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 3/27/2015 3:30 pm : link
In comment 12206863 Greg from LI said:
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Rick Barnes has finally gotten a richly deserved pink slip. Some coach is going to be the beneficiary of the usual UT massive overpay.


Timing is perfect for the Wichita State coach. Value never higher, just beat Self. Texas will make an offer he can't refuse.
Yes, forget about Danny Hurley....  
sems : 3/27/2015 3:33 pm : link
I'll be pissed if he leaves Rhode Island.
So Brandon Sampson  
EricNY33 : 3/27/2015 3:52 pm : link
is reopening his recruitment? Ugh...
RE: So Brandon Sampson  
MookGiants : 3/27/2015 3:53 pm : link
In comment 12206933 EricNY33 said:
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is reopening his recruitment? Ugh...


Who cares. Maybe the new coach can get him back in the fold, maybe they can't.

But I'm not losing any sleep over him reopening his recruitment. We'll be better off in the long run without Lavin
exactly right, Mook  
Greg from LI : 3/27/2015 3:57 pm : link
Freaking out of the possibility of ballyhooed recruits bolting if the coach is fired is one of the idiot mistakes Craig Littlepage has made with Mike London. After he managed to get two top 10 recruits after the 2-10 disaster in 2013, Littlepage was afraid to fire London because he felt that Blanding and Brown would renounce their LOIs. So what happened? Well, Quin Blanding is an awesome safety as advertised, but the team is still going nowhere but down the toilet under London.
RE: So Brandon Sampson  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 3/27/2015 3:57 pm : link
In comment 12206933 EricNY33 said:
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is reopening his recruitment? Ugh...


The University of Maryland has an opening at SG.
Exactly with or without Sampson  
bxgiants4 : 3/27/2015 3:58 pm : link
They were going to stink next year
Post says Danny Hurley is legitimately interested in sju  
bxgiants4 : 3/27/2015 4:04 pm : link
Espn says SJU will seriously consider mullin

Masiello is on w Kay right now. He's solid. Real good interview
RE: RE: So Brandon Sampson  
EricNY33 : 3/27/2015 4:05 pm : link
In comment 12206935 MookGiants said:
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In comment 12206933 EricNY33 said:


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is reopening his recruitment? Ugh...



Who cares. Maybe the new coach can get him back in the fold, maybe they can't.

But I'm not losing any sleep over him reopening his recruitment. We'll be better off in the long run without Lavin


Only if they replace Lavin with someone better.

Hurley turned Wagner around in 1 season  
bxgiants4 : 3/27/2015 4:07 pm : link
And did the same at URI in 3

Kay says SJU wants to speak w Rick PItino. Lmao!
Masiello is blowing the SJU  
bxgiants4 : 3/27/2015 4:08 pm : link
Job right now
RE: Post says Danny Hurley is legitimately interested in sju  
marbles : 3/27/2015 4:13 pm : link
In comment 12206956 bxgiants4 said:
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Espn says SJU will seriously consider mullin

Masiello is on w Kay right now. He's solid. Real good interview


Masiello is crazy. And of all the names, that is the one I am 100 percent against. He will self destruct like Fraschilla and Gonzalez.

Danny Hurley is the front runner right now. He is more like his dad, in the sense that he is going to be a basketball lifer. He may not recruit like Bobby (although if you have a system and an assistant to get you in the door with kids, that is more than enough), he gets the edge in the X's and O's.

Who knows, maybe his dad will throw a bone to his son and allow a St. Anthony kid to come to SJU.
RE: Hurley turned Wagner around in 1 season  
marbles : 3/27/2015 4:16 pm : link
In comment 12206961 bxgiants4 said:
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And did the same at URI in 3

Kay says SJU wants to speak w Rick PItino. Lmao!


Kay is saying that because he is a nudnik.
rumor has it  
YAJ2112 : 3/27/2015 4:18 pm : link
SJU would also like to talk to Coach K
If its true about Barnes  
Rflairr : 3/27/2015 4:47 pm : link
Texas should make Shaka Smart a huge offer. He would be fantastic there
RE: Hurley turned Wagner around in 1 season  
viggie : 3/27/2015 5:31 pm : link
In comment 12206961 bxgiants4 said:
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And did the same at URI in 3

Kay says SJU wants to speak w Rick PItino. Lmao!


there is a reason for this, the new SJU president worked at kentucky when rick was at KU.. there is history and maybe at the end of his career rick wants to come home. who knows
Media starting to push  
bxgiants4 : 3/27/2015 5:52 pm : link
Mullin as a legit top option
Unless Mike Repole  
MookGiants : 3/27/2015 5:55 pm : link
wants to write a blank check there is sero chance Pitino comes. And even if Repole does that its probably only 1%
What about Mark Jackson  
Rflairr : 3/27/2015 6:27 pm : link
for St Johns?
RE: If its true about Barnes  
Greg from LI : 3/27/2015 6:48 pm : link
In comment 12207027 Rflairr said:
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Texas should make Shaka Smart a huge offer. He would be fantastic there


Can't see it. Shake is likely waiting on a blue blood job to open up.
What's happened to SJU has been a disgrace  
Phil in LA : 3/27/2015 7:00 pm : link
Let's hope they finally find someone who can revive a once great program.
Harvard  
Hilary : 3/27/2015 8:26 pm : link
Tommy Ammaker.Show him the money
RE: Harvard  
MookGiants : 3/27/2015 8:29 pm : link
In comment 12207306 Hilary said:
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Tommy Ammaker.Show him the money


No. No. No.
just hire Chris Mullin  
B in ALB : 3/27/2015 9:11 pm : link
and bring them back to their 80's days.
....  
MookGiants : 3/28/2015 6:20 am : link
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@NYPost_Braziller: One NYC high school coach on Steve Lavin: "The new guy will already have done a better job the minute he steps into a HS gym".
Good one Mook  
bxgiants4 : 3/28/2015 6:52 am : link
My top choices are Hurley and masiello in that order
Mullin to get the job  
jeff57 : 3/29/2015 5:21 pm : link
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