DJ Humphries...one guy not mentioned as a top LT prospect.

mocked him to NYG a few weeks ago ... Jeremiah?

Help may be on the way, yat, I've heard there's much love for Peat.

Jon, I really liked Peat but was amazed at how out of shape he was at the Combine, and how tight his hips were. To me Humphries is really impressive. But Peat is that long-armed type the Giants have liked for years.
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The pro conditioning program will shape him up. His Combines testing was actually plenty good, which a few wrote about at the time, such as Bucky Brooks. If they pick him, I'm confident they'll turn him into an excellent pro LT. He's got the skills and AA.

immediately, but I'll always trust Reese with #1 picks.

and live with the growing pains.

The Giants usually hate that.

Humphries a lot. He needs to improve his pass blocking techniques, especially with his hands. Also needs to gain weight. But his talent is obvious. I think he goes in the first round. I'd be fine with him after a trade down.

D.J. Humphries

If we draft him, I guess we move Pugh inside. Can Humphries play guard?

like him a lot. #2 LT prospect behind Clemmings IMO. my bud who is a scout in the AFC West compared him to D'Brick Ferguson (jets)

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like him a lot. #2 LT prospect behind Clemmings IMO. my bud who is a scout in the AFC West compared him to D'Brick Ferguson (jets)

That is pretty high praise.

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a scouting report on Humphries from a guy who covers the Cowboys.
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Former #1 OT recruit out of high school. He's very athletic. Left tackle feet with toughness and awareness. He has to get stronger though and needs better technique. At times he tries to win solely on his athleticism. He'll lunge to get the defender. He was able to get away with that in college but not in the pros. He has also missed some games due to ankle and knee injuries. Lastly he needs to add weight. He played at 280 during the season but was up to 307 at the combine. The Gators Pro Day is 4/7 so hopefully he has put on more good weight by then. He's been working with former Giant William Roberts leading up to the draft to become a better lineman which is good to hear.

I think Humphries barring further injury is the #2 OT in this class but behind Jake Fisher, another lineman that gets nowhere near the discussion he deserves.

I agree with your comments on Jake Fisher, but I find him hard to evaluate as a potential Giant. The Oregon offense bears no comparison to a straight drop back quarterback like Eli.

You can watch tape of Fisher, but things happened so quickly in that Oregon offense, that I frankly have a hard time knowing if Fisher is the type of left tackle that would be needed to protect Eli. He does seem athletic and with good feet but like Pugh, I don't know if he has the ability to get bigger.

Peat's a kid with a lot of baby fat
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The pro conditioning program will shape him up.

There is no excuse for the shape he is currently in and it could be indicative of poor work habits and/or lack of discipline. People don't have 'baby fat' at age 20.

That said if we pick him I'm not gonna gripe about it. I'd prefer a 'cleaner' prospect #9 but that guy may not exist in this red chip heavy draft. Seems like everyone not named Williams or Cooper has their warts. Pick your poison Mr. Reese and we'll all have our fingers crossed.

With NFL offenses becoming more about the quick passing game, including our offense starting last year, I think he could.

Fisher compares favorably imo to Kyle Long. He went from playing in Oregon's offense to the pro style offense with the Bears. He moved from tackle in college to left guard in the NFL and has been to the Pro Bowl both years in the league, including All-Pro last season. They have a similar build and both had to put on weight. I believe Fisher was in the 290s during the season but was up to 306 at the combine and nearly 6'7" same as Long who plays at 313.

He also reminds me of Lane Johnson of the Eagles. Johnson started his college career at QB before settling in at OT, flew up draft boards after the Senior Bowl in 2013 and became a top 5 pick, now playing in Kelly's offense at RT. Johnson plays at about 315.

I like Fisher for his athleticism, toughness, intelligence and versatility. He played RT, RG and LT in college. There's about a month to go and it wouldn't surprise me to hear his name more in the 1st rd discussion between now and 4/30.

I hate what I've read about Peat. Out of shape & a lot of reviews claim he doesn't have a nasty streak. That means a carbon copy of Beatty at best. I'd like another Seubert if possible.

Look around college football, plenty of kids still with baby fat. It might be an indicator of lack of maturity and poor habits/discipline, that's true. The regime will find it out, as well as attitude etc. He tested fine at the Combines. Watch his performance versus UCLA, the dominant potential is there. Where we definitely agree is this draft is very light on blue chippers.

at this point? Might he be there in the 3rd?

As for Peat, taking him at 9 makes me nervous. He looks a little fluffy, makes me question his discipline.

He has potential but I'd rather have Humphries/Erving or Tomlinson in Round 2 than Peat #9. I see little to differentiate them in terms of ability to help us immediately and overall grade imo.

We'll agree to disagree on his conditioning...what you term 'baby fat' is being out of shape plain and simple. He doesn't go to some backwater college program. He's had access to modern training facilities, coaching and nutrition. So where is the rub?

His UCLA game was great but why wasn't that the norm for him? Why didn't he dominate consistently. With his tools he should have but didn't.

To reiterate if we pick him #9 I can see the upside but he has more question marks than I would feel comfortable with if it was my decision.

I'd see him much more strongly if he were one to seize the bull by the horns, but my point is many of these college kids don't. The light often comes on in the pro weight room. We'll see how this develops ...

Good breakdown that has me warming up to the idea of him at 9, if that's the way they go...
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A soft stiff.

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I see the word "lazy" in there a couple times. Doesn't make me feel much better.

....Scherrf Or Collins. We Need A Masher.

VS. LSU, just awful.

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I hate what I've read about Peat. Out of shape & a lot of reviews claim he doesn't have a nasty streak. That means a carbon copy of Beatty at best. I'd like another Seubert if possible.

He's not out of shape, he's just built differently. He has enormous legs, calves and butt and a relatively small upper body. He has big arms but his neck/chest/shoulders look smallish for a 6-7 OT. Out of shape is not really correct, he's a bigger bodied guy with the room to actually add a lot of upper body weight. Ceiling wise, he's got the highest of any of the OTs. If you want to gamble on greatness he's the pick of these OL.

Humprhies is WAY too up and down for my taste, he looks like a world beater against FSU and disinterested and slow vs. LSU. That's not really D'Brickashaw Ferguson, despite area's good buddy who is a scout. Ferguson is a long, lean angular pass protector who plays consistently well. Humphries isn't as long or polished, actually not even close.

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A soft stiff.

Neither is a stiff, not even close. Soft, sure, but stiff...not even close.

False. He is out of shape. If you watch him and don't see the bad weight he's carrying go to the eye doctor. There is flab and fat jiggling all over the man. Is it correctable? yes but right now his conditioning is a concern.

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False. He is out of shape. If you watch him and don't see the bad weight he's carrying go to the eye doctor. There is flab and fat jiggling all over the man. Is it correctable? yes but right now his conditioning is a concern.

Let's keep this civil if possible, we had a decent discussion on a few other threads. Watch the clip below, Peat is naturally thick, think Kevin Boothe but not as extreme. Someone who starts a full season on a Pac-12 title contender isn't just a fat out of shape guy, so I don't buy that argument that he needs to do some cardio. It takes 2 seconds to see he does NOT have an NFL body type, it's more sumo wrestler or old WWF superstar who stopped using roids. He has huge arms and legs, and a weird unmuscular middle. He's simply not going to turn into Tyron Smith with some conditioning, he's totally different body wise than almost any OL you can think of. He's naturally bulky and he carries it fairly well, and yes he needs to get in better shape but that for his body type that is not a small feat.
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but his butt and thighs are freakish. think the conditioning thing is a bit overdone. that is one of the most fixable things unless the guy is lazy - there is no evidence of that I'm aware of.

Gator fan I've watched every game from Humphries. To me, he never lived up to his hype coming out of high school. He was a good but not great college player. Most Gator fans I know were always expecting more from him and were disappointed. I'd pass.