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Moondawg : 3/27/2015 6:46 pm
Anybody here consider themselves a skeptic? What does it meant to say that? And why do some people associate being a skeptic with a kind of intellectual virtue?

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Headhunter : 3/28/2015 10:03 am : link
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Moondawg : 3/28/2015 10:04 am : link
In comment 12207688 Bill2 said:
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net of all other second derivatives and all other insights and commentary it all nets out to this next assertion....

hence net net




Got it. Thanks.

And I meant Chuangtzu (or Zhuangzi) above.
and here as well  
idiotsavant : 3/28/2015 10:06 am : link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gjWUiVtldk&list=RDTsr9t44kc-Q&index=1
As a philosophy major from an Ivy League college  
SwirlingEddie : 3/28/2015 10:09 am : link
some 30+ years ago, I can verify from experience that logico-philosophic methods are useful tools applied in moderation, but can get in the way of a useful, effective and enjoyable life.

And Kant kicks Hume's ass.
Hi Bill!  
JohnF : 3/28/2015 10:12 am : link
I've always thought the definition of a Skeptic was someone who shaved with Occam's razor. True or False?
Depending on the situation, I can be either a skeptic  
Ira : 3/28/2015 10:14 am : link
or an optimist. I prefer optimism - it feels better.
Moondawg  
Bill2 : 3/28/2015 10:14 am : link
ditto....I am in the same place...and got there through the same exposures

It is an important practice we need to do our best....but not a system of thought ...nor superior.

My citing Merleau Ponty was in reflection of your side path mentions of epistemology. We have such flawed ( animal) and vivid inputs and processors its hard not to be skeptical about limits in our ability to "hold" skepticism or knowledge for very long. imho

Obviously we need A SOFTWARE PROGRAMER TO GIVE US THE CODE
RE: Depending on the situation, I can be either a skeptic  
Wuphat : 3/28/2015 10:14 am : link
In comment 12207704 Ira said:
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or an optimist. I prefer optimism - it feels better.


Why can't you be both?
pshaw  
idiotsavant : 3/28/2015 10:15 am : link
hume, duh
Moondawg, Swirling, JohnF  
Bill2 : 3/28/2015 10:24 am : link
Important stuff in that book to think about...lets find a way to sneak in your recommendations after reading it...maybe on some thread about our seventh round pick...I think we have two of them.

Swirling...ditto ...although my guess that the Morningside Heights experience sourced different preferred substances than the Hanover ( did I guess right?) experience?

JohnF...as always...hope spring reaches you soon
JohnF  
Bill2 : 3/28/2015 10:27 am : link
a sceptic shaving with Occams Razor reminds me of the label in business circles after watching interminable Powerpoint presentations...BBGOTFO


Big Blinding Glimpses Of The Fucking Obvious
RE: RE: Depending on the situation, I can be either a skeptic  
Moondawg : 3/28/2015 10:37 am : link
In comment 12207706 Wuphat said:
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In comment 12207704 Ira said:


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or an optimist. I prefer optimism - it feels better.



Why can't you be both?


A friend of mine works on skepticism in India. He argues that the skepticism of Indian thinkers like Jayarashi is really an affirmation of life. That's the point, as opposed to projecting value to some other world. Here is a place for shared concern with the modern humanistic skeptics.
RE: Moondawg, Swirling, JohnF  
Moondawg : 3/28/2015 10:38 am : link
In comment 12207714 Bill2 said:
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Important stuff in that book to think about...lets find a way to sneak in your recommendations after reading it...maybe on some thread about our seventh round pick...I think we have two of them.

Swirling...ditto ...although my guess that the Morningside Heights experience sourced different preferred substances than the Hanover ( did I guess right?) experience?

JohnF...as always...hope spring reaches you soon


Maybe we can have a philosophy recommendations thread at some point. Probably won't be as populated as civil war rec. threads!
Love your example on the PowerPoint!  
JohnF : 3/28/2015 10:39 am : link
And yeah, I've seen it!

Thanks...we have Spring...it's just white! Had to shovel about 1 inch off the driveway this morning, and it's still flurrying! Easter Egg hunts are going to be real interesting if this keeps up!
Thanks for the book suggestion!  
SwirlingEddie : 3/28/2015 11:28 am : link
And yes, Hanover - is it that obvious? While I was toiling away over my Heidegger I secretly suspected that Michael Gazzaniga (in the Psychology Dept at the time) was doing the far more interesting and consequential work. Probably should have heeded that intuition!
Swirling  
Bill2 : 3/28/2015 11:40 am : link
yes...a regret...but imho...his second and more recent act has been more interesting and useful...not that his research was not very important.

( and getting into the classes of top talents while still graduating (pre reqs and all those ladders in other fields) on our own timelines can be tough)

Fascinated by the work of cog sci on free will, morality and ethics. Dennett and Flanagan are also good reads on these subjects
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