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Why isn't O.J. Anderson in the Hall of Fame?

CBSGameFace : 3/28/2015 6:16 am
I might be beating a dead horse here, but O.J. Anderson should, without a doubt, be in the Hall of Fame.

If Bill Parcells could build his prototype back, it would have been Ottis. The wind up uppercut to Mark (Marvin the Martian) Kelso's jaw in the SuperBowl is a microcosm of the Smashmouth mentality Parcells tried to instill in all his players. A real shame, like Simms not being in.

From Wiki:

"When he retired, Anderson ranked seventh in rushing TDs and eighth in rushing yards. At the 2014 season, Anderson was ranked 18th in career rushing touchdowns and is one of 29 running backs in the history of the NFL to rush for more than 10,000 yards (currently ranked 26th in career rushing yards)."

"Anderson was selected in the first round of the 1979 NFL Draft, the 8th overall pick, by the St. Louis Cardinals. He had what was probably the greatest debut game in NFL history when he rushed for 193 yards. His single season 1,605 rushing yard performance was one of the few bright spots in the Cardinals' 1979 season, when they finished 5-11. He earned the first of back-to-back Pro Bowl selections that year.

In his first six seasons, Anderson rushed for over 1,000 yards in five seasons. The lone exception was in the 1982 strike-shortened season, when he rushed for 587 yards in eight games, and was on pace for well over 1,000 yards, if 1982 were a full 16 game season.

The Cardinals made the playoffs in 1982, thanks to an expanded field due to the brevity of the season. It was the franchise's first postseason appearance since 1975 and last until 1998. Anderson rushed for 58 yards on eight carries against the Green Bay Packers in the team's lone playoff game."
Tough call..  
Big Blue '56 : 3/28/2015 6:19 am : link
For the first 6-7 years of his career with the Cards, he was arguably the NFL's best back...He came to us in '86 and virtually sat on the shelf until the '90 season..As I said, a tough call
RE: Tough call..  
CBSGameFace : 3/28/2015 6:26 am : link
In comment 12207583 Big Blue '56 said:
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For the first 6-7 years of his career with the Cards, he was arguably the NFL's best back...He came to us in '86 and virtually sat on the shelf until the '90 season..As I said, a tough call


Big Blue: Isn't that the minimum standard for HOFers? 7 years of being in the top three in your position? The cat was a stud. I remember him being the ONLY threat on those Cards teams and they still managed to beat us on a few occasions.

Billy Sims got in on 7 years worth of excellent play. There is a lot of Terrell Davis talk, also. Now that we know how abbreviated running backs career's can be, I think the Committee should review his career.

Same goes from Tom Flores. Fucking dude was a pioneer. Never gets a sniff of a mention. The whole Al Davis, Raider thing, of course.
anti-NY bias  
jeffusedtobeonwebtv : 3/28/2015 6:31 am : link
There is an anti-NY bias among voters. How else do you explain that it took 10 years of eligibility for Harry Carson to be voted in or for Warren Sapp to be picked instead of Michael Strahan in their first year's eligible. The football Cardinal's franchise also does not get a lot of love.

And it is not only in Football. How do you explain Angel Berroa being voted rookie of the year over Hideki Matsui, or Justin Moreau (not even the MVP of his team) being selected over Derek Jeter as a baseball MVP?
CBS,  
Big Blue '56 : 3/28/2015 6:34 am : link
you must be thinking of someone else..Sims only had about 5 years before the knee effectively ended his career
Billy Sims  
MookGiants : 3/28/2015 6:41 am : link
isn't in the hall of fame.

And Terrell Davis has no shot to make the hall of fame.

RE: anti-NY bias  
CBSGameFace : 3/28/2015 6:47 am : link
In comment 12207587 jeffusedtobeonwebtv said:
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There is an anti-NY bias among voters. How else do you explain that it took 10 years of eligibility for Harry Carson to be voted in or for Warren Sapp to be picked instead of Michael Strahan in their first year's eligible. The football Cardinal's franchise also does not get a lot of love.

And it is not only in Football. How do you explain Angel Berroa being voted rookie of the year over Hideki Matsui, or Justin Moreau (not even the MVP of his team) being selected over Derek Jeter as a baseball MVP?


Preach on, brethren. The anti-NY bias is over the top on the NFL Network, too. Eliot Harrison comes out one day (literally) in a Cowboy colored suit. What a freakin slurper!! But I understand what you are saying. They hate us. And I looooooooooooooooooooooooooooove it.
I stand corrected on Sims....  
CBSGameFace : 3/28/2015 6:51 am : link
I could've sworn he was in and that he was a seven year man. My bad. Thanks for correcting me.

And believe me, there is a groundswell of support for Davis. I don't think so either on Davis, but I hear that a lot.
Quite honestly ...  
FStubbs : 3/28/2015 7:31 am : link
... I'd argue given how many Steelers, Cowboys, and Niners made it in, that the 80s-90s Giants teams are missing OJ Anderson, Carl Banks, Jumbo Elliott, Mark Bavaro, and Bart Oates in the hall.
Oh, and Bears.  
FStubbs : 3/28/2015 7:33 am : link
The Bears in the Hall of Fame are ridiculous for a team that only won a ring once.
I think not  
SanFranNowNCGiantsFan : 3/28/2015 7:46 am : link
Playing much between '86-'89 really hurts him.
F Stubbs  
blapre74 : 3/28/2015 8:57 am : link
The packers have won the most rings, Bears are #2.
he should definitely be in the hall  
markky : 3/28/2015 9:06 am : link
so should Oates and Bavaro.
OJ Anderson  
stretch234 : 3/28/2015 9:10 am : link
His best 7 years individually are not as good as Tiki's best 7 years.

He has more carries, less yards, less catches than Tiki, in 28 more games

I think Tiki should get in before Anderson
He is not in the HOF because you and I don't get to vote!  
wgenesis123 : 3/28/2015 9:33 am : link
When he played 10,000 yards was thought to be automatic entry in the hall. Not so much anymore. Thats not his fault!
Because he didn't have a media godfather  
arniefez : 3/28/2015 9:36 am : link
and he didn't have much value to the NFL marketing machine.
met him in person after his playing days  
bobc : 3/28/2015 9:58 am : link
and he was a true gentleman to me and my wife. Saw him in a bar in Fort Lauderdale and we shot pool and joked around all night. One of the most physically intimidating person I have seen. In biblical times he would have been called a giant, and one of the nicest. I am big but felt small standing next to him and to think he was a running back! I think I would have gotten out of his way.
Parcells should have used him more  
averagejoe : 3/28/2015 10:13 am : link
I thought that then and I think that now. There was no RB rotation in those days. The number one guy got all the carries. Morris and Hampton were fine RB's but who is to say OJ would not have been at least as effective with the same opportunities if not more ? In today's game he would get at least 10 carries a day as the change of pace back.
OJ Anderson was the greatest "pickup" move the Giants  
PatersonPlank : 3/28/2015 10:22 am : link
have ever made (through FA or trade). The guy carried them in 1990 and was the SB MVP. Also yes, the first half of the 1980's he was the stud RB in the league.
You can make the argument....  
Doomster : 3/28/2015 12:08 pm : link
Billy Sims
MookGiants : 6:41 am : link : reply
isn't in the hall of fame.

And Terrell Davis has no shot to make the hall of fame.


Compare Davis' career to Sayers....pretty similar....one guy has 2 SB rings....
Because  
Joey in VA : 3/28/2015 12:18 pm : link
He's not good enough? He had two great seasons, one very good then 82, and 85-88 he was injured and rarely played putting up almost no numbers. He never had more than 3.5 yards per carry after 1985, he was a grinder after that ,nothing more and he's not worthy of being a HoF RB.
OJ deserves HOF far more than Simms, who although i thought he was  
plato : 3/28/2015 12:18 pm : link
a very good giant qb, not in the class of the prototype HOF qb, who for many reasons rarely won a game with his arm, except for a superbowl. Simms is far less than eli and doesn't come close to YAT or Charlie #42 in the giant pantheon of qb's. I leave out the loaner from the Vikings. Prior to # 42 giants have Goldberg in the hOF I believe for many reasons.

Phil was a tough hard nosed guy who fit the system, he may have been much better in another system than in the one he played in and without his early and late injuries. But its a total career. Unfortunately his playing profile doesn't make the HOF especially coming from the media capital where he should have had better press
RE: You can make the argument....  
MookGiants : 3/28/2015 12:20 pm : link
In comment 12207837 Doomster said:
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Billy Sims
MookGiants : 6:41 am : link : reply
isn't in the hall of fame.

And Terrell Davis has no shot to make the hall of fame.


Compare Davis' career to Sayers....pretty similar....one guy has 2 SB rings....


And Davis has now been on the ballot how many times and only once has he even been in the top 15 finalists, and never made it to the top 10.
RE: Oh, and Bears.  
Bramton1 : 3/28/2015 12:57 pm : link
In comment 12207602 FStubbs said:
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The Bears in the Hall of Fame are ridiculous for a team that only won a ring once.


You do realize that the Bears won eight NFL championships before there were Super Bowls, right? Only the Packers won more pre-Super Bowl NFL Championships.

And here is the list of Chicago Bears' players from the Super Bowl era in the Hall of Fame (Jim Finks got in an an administrator, and also Ditka coached the Bears to a Super Bowl, his playing career with the Bears ended in 1966):

Dick Butkus
Richard Dent
Dan Hampton
Walter Payton
Gale Sayers
Mike Singletary

With the exception of Hampton, every one of those players are considered NFL royalty.
Better career stats  
Rob in CT/NYC : 3/28/2015 1:53 pm : link
OJ or Frank Gore? Should Gore be in the HOF?

And Tiki should be in....
How about  
Rob in CT/NYC : 3/28/2015 1:55 pm : link
Dunn? Taylor? Stephen Jackson?

All arguably comparable careers to Anderson.
RE: Because  
blueblood : 3/28/2015 2:16 pm : link
In comment 12207858 Joey in VA said:
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He's not good enough? He had two great seasons, one very good then 82, and 85-88 he was injured and rarely played putting up almost no numbers. He never had more than 3.5 yards per carry after 1985, he was a grinder after that ,nothing more and he's not worthy of being a HoF RB.


Bingo.. also you have to consider the other Great RB's in the 80's

Payton
Dickerson
Dorsett
Allen
Craig

Those players were all better than OJ Anderson..

Then he was followed by players like

Sanders
Emmitt Smith
Thurman Thomas
Marshall Faulk

So sandwiched between greatness and greatness.. OJ Anderson is not a HoF candidate..
Yea and....  
Howyadoin : 3/28/2015 4:57 pm : link
Thurman Thomas never won a Championship...So what's your point??? Anderson belongs there...just for the punch move LoL
RE: Yea and....  
blueblood : 3/28/2015 5:23 pm : link
In comment 12208223 Howyadoin said:
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Thurman Thomas never won a Championship...So what's your point??? Anderson belongs there...just for the punch move LoL


The point is that in the era of the 80-90's Ottis Anderson was an average running back in an era when all time great players at the same position were playing.

Which is why he is not in the Hall of Fame.
Depends  
Howyadoin : 3/28/2015 6:45 pm : link
on what your definition of great is...The password is Championship
Anderson may not belong in the HOF  
PatersonPlank : 3/28/2015 7:25 pm : link
I am on the fence personally about that one, but he was far above an avg back.
Anderson should waltz in...  
bw in dc : 3/28/2015 7:48 pm : link
He had 10K yards rushing, over 80TDs, and over 375 receptions. I can't believe it's even a debate.

If the highly overrated Jerome Bettis is in, and even more absurdly, Floyd Little, then OJ is one of the more screwed players in NFL history not having his picture taken next to his bust...

Stupid writers continue to be stupid...
RE: RE: Yea and....  
CBSGameFace : 3/28/2015 11:09 pm : link
In comment 12208245 blueblood said:
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In comment 12208223 Howyadoin said:


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Thurman Thomas never won a Championship...So what's your point??? Anderson belongs there...just for the punch move LoL



The point is that in the era of the 80-90's Ottis Anderson was an average running back in an era when all time great players at the same position were playing.

Which is why he is not in the Hall of Fame.


Please remember that he played on the CARDINALS!! The Cardinals, for Pete's sake.
RE: RE: RE: Yea and....  
blueblood : 3/29/2015 9:06 am : link
In comment 12208615 CBSGameFace said:
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In comment 12208245 blueblood said:


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In comment 12208223 Howyadoin said:


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Thurman Thomas never won a Championship...So what's your point??? Anderson belongs there...just for the punch move LoL



The point is that in the era of the 80-90's Ottis Anderson was an average running back in an era when all time great players at the same position were playing.

Which is why he is not in the Hall of Fame.



Please remember that he played on the CARDINALS!! The Cardinals, for Pete's sake.


I know exactly where he played. I was alive and watching those games.. OK Anderson's problem is simple.. He was in an era when there werent just other good backs.. there were other OUTSTANDING backs playing when he was in his prime..

Payton
Dickerson
Dorsett
Allen
Craig

Thats the problem.. combined with the fact that he pretty much was on the bench until 1990 when Hampton got hurt..

Did he had a memorable career. Yes... Good career.. Yes.. Endearing to Giants fans.. Absolutely..

Hall of Fame?? Not in my opinion. Similar issue with Phil Simms.. good QB.. but played in an era with other GREAT QB's...
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