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Can confirm @Joelsherman1 report that #Mets are talking contract extension with Lucas Duda. He's under team control for three more years.
More importantly is his first two were opposite field.
Reynolds again with nothing but GREAT ABs and hard hit balls
Gee with a horrendous start has settled down nicely.
Grandy again looking locked in at the plate.
Subs came in this inning.
Mayberry jogging to first I stead of at second if he runs on LF misjudging a liner. Reynolds next AB grounds into dp to 2b. Instead of runner at 3rd with one out. It's none on two out.
Mayberry jogging to first I stead of at second if he runs on LF misjudging a liner. Reynolds next AB grounds into dp to 2b. Instead of runner at 3rd with one out. It's none on two out.
You know, it's really not necessary to be a condescending prick...especially since nobody (me) said that fundamentals were meaningless. But, continue, this place is full of people that completely make shit up just to prove a point...why would you be any different.
Fu dame taps are vital for this team to have any chance.
But Colkins was probably fine with Tejada NOT covering 2b in time with Holliday on the back end of a double steal. No offense, I'm not calling you out for lack of fundamentals. It's directed at Collins...
We specifically had a conversation about fundamentals Â
by time you reach the big leagues, what where you taught in the minors?It is not the job a big league manager to teach fundamentals. This is not Little League
You teach them their whole life. But it's enforced in the big leagues. At least on winning teams. If you don't feel it should that's fine. Agree to disagree.
Phi. I know the conversation, but assure you it was t a dig at you. If it was, I would have said so.
Your coaching staff is there for a reason. To lay it at the feet of Collins is nitpicking. Blame it on Alderson if Wright doesn't look a runner back, makes as much sense as blaming Collins. I am not a Collins fan, but come on
my coaches to coach and my players to play. If someone makes a mental error, someone will discuss it when the guy gets to the dugout. If the player does it over and over, then the player is baseball stupid or the coaches can't coach. But to faint like sa teenage girl over a spring training game is silly.
Not sure why this is still going and you can't move on. You obviously want your manager to only got to the bullpen and bunt. I want mine to lead and not accept mediocrity. So what, we differ in opinion - move on.
I feel like I've heard barely a peep about him this spring. Is he the closer or is he just holding Parnell's spot?
He's the closer for now. Collins initially called it Parnell's job when he comes back but more recently he said something like "the best man for the job" etc I can't imagine they remove Mejia from the role if he's doing a good job. Would be very silly in fact.
Seemed like outside of a crappy outing a few days ago, he had been really solid this spring. I'd like to see him actually keep the job.
Also, is Gee officially the 5th starter or does Montero still have a shot?
Collins and Sandy both previously said Gee is the #5 but again more recently Collins has walked that back and implied while it's still likely Gee that Montero's performance against the Yankees has made them keep an open mind.
Both Reynolds and Muno who are vying for a spot if Murphy heads to the DL are batting the same .381 in 42 AB this spring. Reynolds does have a slight edge in HR's and RBI's.
Both Reynolds and Muno who are vying for a spot if Murphy heads to the DL are batting the same .381 in 42 AB this spring. Reynolds does have a slight edge in HR's and RBI's.
Reynolds makes more sense if Murphy is going to miss time, Muno makes more sense if this strictly a bench role.
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about the Cubs waiting 12 games to bring up Bryant. To me it is a no brainer that will mean maybe $30 million dollar year being put off. But as someone pointed out that if the Cubs miss making the Playoffs by 1 game, was it the right thing to do to Cub fans ?
What if he's a complete bust (unlikely)? The what if game can go on forever.
But simple math says if he has a historic rookie season he will be worth 6 wins? A win a month. Half a win every two weeks. Odds are if the Cubs miss the playoffs by a game it wouldn't only be due to waiting two weeks for Bryant. That's just agent spun and agenda to get the fans mad at the club.
about the Cubs waiting 12 games to bring up Bryant. To me it is a no brainer that will mean maybe $30 million dollar year being put off. But as someone pointed out that if the Cubs miss making the Playoffs by 1 game, was it the right thing to do to Cub fans ?
Each season there is probably only a dozen or so close games that could have been won but aren't that really make the difference of whether or not a team makes the playoffs.
Sean Gilmartin, a Rule 5 pick from the #Twins, likely has earned a spot on #Mets' Opening Day roster. Details: http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/mets/post/_/id/99791/rule-5-pick-sean-gilmartin-likely-to-make-opening-day-roster …
hope the Mets don't give Duda more than 2 years extra (max). Anything more I think is playing with fire and with their payroll could be a disaster.
Agreed. I think it's going to end up being a base 5 year deal around 50M, with a big option year and some good bonuses built in. Maybe it eeks up to 60M, but they have a lot of leverage since he's 3 seasons away and already 29. Even guaranteeing his 30M or so for the next 3 years is a win for Duda.
hope the Mets don't give Duda more than 2 years extra (max). Anything more I think is playing with fire and with their payroll could be a disaster.
Agreed. I think it's going to end up being a base 5 year deal around 50M, with a big option year and some good bonuses built in. Maybe it eeks up to 60M, but they have a lot of leverage since he's 3 seasons away and already 29. Even guaranteeing his 30M or so for the next 3 years is a win for Duda.
I predicted 5 for 50 overall with incentives on NYFS (which would be a 2 year extension). Really would hate to see locking up Duda beyond that. Pretty unlikely it's a good deal years 5 and 6 so you hope for "only" 1 "bad" year in your worst case scenario. 6 years seems excessive. As noted above.. Ike Davis did in fact happen and 1 good year has happened before.
Guys who hit their stride as late of Duda did usually have a very short window of high level productivity. I'll worry about 2018-2020 when we get closer to those years. Of course, if it can be done on the cheap I wouldnt be dead set against it.
It's extremely debatable whether or not he could even get that on the open market, and it's obviously insane while he has 3 years of team control remaining. Adam Laroche just got 2 years 25M. If this contract exceeds that AAV given the leverage the Mets have I would be very surprised.
hope the Mets don't give Duda more than 2 years extra (max). Anything more I think is playing with fire and with their payroll could be a disaster.
Dan, duck and cover. A couple of people were advocating 6/$100 for Duda. And thought that was team friendly. Be prepared to be bombarded.
If Duda were a FA coming off 2 straight "2014's" then I could see that. Duda controlled for 3 years, coming off 1 good season, 29 this season 100 million would be insanity. 5 years (tearing up the 3 he has) 50-60 with maybe a huge team option for a 6th year (18-20 million). Seems more likely if this happens at all. As it is gambling even 50 million is a major gamble for a guy who wasn't even a league a
It's extremely debatable whether or not he could even get that on the open market, and it's obviously insane while he has 3 years of team control remaining. Adam Laroche just got 2 years 25M. If this contract exceeds that AAV given the leverage the Mets have I would be very surprised.
There is a 0% chance Lucas Duda off 1 really good (but not incredible) season scores 100 million. Coming off ANOTHER such season he likely gets his 80-100+. With 3 years of control left he's not sniffing anywhere near 100 million from the Mets.
There is a 0% chance Lucas Duda off 1 really good (but not incredible) season scores 100 million. Coming off ANOTHER such season he likely gets his 80-100+. With 3 years of control left he's not sniffing anywhere near 100 million from the Mets.
This.
The Mets already have Duda through 2017 at what will cost them, at worst, 30 million dollars (which would be something like 4/10/16 - I think 4/8/13 is a lot more likely for his actual arb year costs, which would be 25 million total). A $100 million deal essentially says that those three FA years are worth $70 million.
Giving big money to a 1B in his 30's - even his early 30's - is almost always a bad decision. Especially when it's a 1B carrying a lot of weight, which Duda is. I
If I was the Mets I would offer Duda 6/$70, which prices his age 32-34 seasons at ~$15M each assuming his arbitration years are worth $25M. If anything, 6/$70 is still above market rate for this type of extension - Christian Yelich just got 7/$50 with a team option to give up three years of FA, and Yelich (a) will be in his 20's for the entire duration of that contract, (b) has a body type that is much more likely to age well, and (c) just had a 4.6 WAR season - the odds that Duda ever has a single season worth 4.6 WAR are fairly low considering that Duda is a minus defensive first baseman. And that Yelich deal was notable because he got significantly more money than Marte got the year before, when Marte was in virtually the same situation. Yelich and Marte are both farther from FA than Duda is, but even if you removed the pre-arb years from those contracts, it's highly unlikely Yelich or Marte get meaningfully more than 6/$70 despite having both higher floors and higher ceilings than Duda.
of Duda, but considering his age, the fact that we have him under control for 3 seasons, and that he's only had one "good" MLB season, I'm not sure giving him a huge contract really makes sense. I'm not saying this is a bad idea, it's just that I'm really curious to see what the terms of the deal would be.
The "worst" case if we do nothing and he continues to produce like last year is that we have him for three more years and (i) we resign him for market value, or (ii) he leaves and we get a 1st round pick.
I'd rather be working to sign Lagares to something.
More importantly is his first two were opposite field.
Reynolds again with nothing but GREAT ABs and hard hit balls
Gee with a horrendous start has settled down nicely.
Grandy again looking locked in at the plate.
Subs came in this inning.
You know, it's really not necessary to be a condescending prick...especially since nobody (me) said that fundamentals were meaningless. But, continue, this place is full of people that completely make shit up just to prove a point...why would you be any different.
But Colkins was probably fine with Tejada NOT covering 2b in time with Holliday on the back end of a double steal. No offense, I'm not calling you out for lack of fundamentals. It's directed at Collins...
My apologies if that is not the case.
Phi. I know the conversation, but assure you it was t a dig at you. If it was, I would have said so.
What's your point?
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He's the closer for now. Collins initially called it Parnell's job when he comes back but more recently he said something like "the best man for the job" etc I can't imagine they remove Mejia from the role if he's doing a good job. Would be very silly in fact.
Also, is Gee officially the 5th starter or does Montero still have a shot?
Also, is Gee officially the 5th starter or does Montero still have a shot?
Collins and Sandy both previously said Gee is the #5 but again more recently Collins has walked that back and implied while it's still likely Gee that Montero's performance against the Yankees has made them keep an open mind.
Reynolds makes more sense if Murphy is going to miss time, Muno makes more sense if this strictly a bench role.
I'm fairly certain he can throw a no hitter today and still open in the pen.
But simple math says if he has a historic rookie season he will be worth 6 wins? A win a month. Half a win every two weeks. Odds are if the Cubs miss the playoffs by a game it wouldn't only be due to waiting two weeks for Bryant. That's just agent spun and agenda to get the fans mad at the club.
Sean Gilmartin, a Rule 5 pick from the #Twins, likely has earned a spot on #Mets' Opening Day roster. Details: http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/mets/post/_/id/99791/rule-5-pick-sean-gilmartin-likely-to-make-opening-day-roster …
Agreed. I think it's going to end up being a base 5 year deal around 50M, with a big option year and some good bonuses built in. Maybe it eeks up to 60M, but they have a lot of leverage since he's 3 seasons away and already 29. Even guaranteeing his 30M or so for the next 3 years is a win for Duda.
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hope the Mets don't give Duda more than 2 years extra (max). Anything more I think is playing with fire and with their payroll could be a disaster.
Agreed. I think it's going to end up being a base 5 year deal around 50M, with a big option year and some good bonuses built in. Maybe it eeks up to 60M, but they have a lot of leverage since he's 3 seasons away and already 29. Even guaranteeing his 30M or so for the next 3 years is a win for Duda.
I predicted 5 for 50 overall with incentives on NYFS (which would be a 2 year extension). Really would hate to see locking up Duda beyond that. Pretty unlikely it's a good deal years 5 and 6 so you hope for "only" 1 "bad" year in your worst case scenario. 6 years seems excessive. As noted above.. Ike Davis did in fact happen and 1 good year has happened before.
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Dan, duck and cover. A couple of people were advocating 6/$100 for Duda. And thought that was team friendly. Be prepared to be bombarded.
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hope the Mets don't give Duda more than 2 years extra (max). Anything more I think is playing with fire and with their payroll could be a disaster.
Dan, duck and cover. A couple of people were advocating 6/$100 for Duda. And thought that was team friendly. Be prepared to be bombarded.
If Duda were a FA coming off 2 straight "2014's" then I could see that. Duda controlled for 3 years, coming off 1 good season, 29 this season 100 million would be insanity. 5 years (tearing up the 3 he has) 50-60 with maybe a huge team option for a 6th year (18-20 million). Seems more likely if this happens at all. As it is gambling even 50 million is a major gamble for a guy who wasn't even a league a
There is a 0% chance Lucas Duda off 1 really good (but not incredible) season scores 100 million. Coming off ANOTHER such season he likely gets his 80-100+. With 3 years of control left he's not sniffing anywhere near 100 million from the Mets.
This.
The Mets already have Duda through 2017 at what will cost them, at worst, 30 million dollars (which would be something like 4/10/16 - I think 4/8/13 is a lot more likely for his actual arb year costs, which would be 25 million total). A $100 million deal essentially says that those three FA years are worth $70 million.
Giving big money to a 1B in his 30's - even his early 30's - is almost always a bad decision. Especially when it's a 1B carrying a lot of weight, which Duda is. I
If I was the Mets I would offer Duda 6/$70, which prices his age 32-34 seasons at ~$15M each assuming his arbitration years are worth $25M. If anything, 6/$70 is still above market rate for this type of extension - Christian Yelich just got 7/$50 with a team option to give up three years of FA, and Yelich (a) will be in his 20's for the entire duration of that contract, (b) has a body type that is much more likely to age well, and (c) just had a 4.6 WAR season - the odds that Duda ever has a single season worth 4.6 WAR are fairly low considering that Duda is a minus defensive first baseman. And that Yelich deal was notable because he got significantly more money than Marte got the year before, when Marte was in virtually the same situation. Yelich and Marte are both farther from FA than Duda is, but even if you removed the pre-arb years from those contracts, it's highly unlikely Yelich or Marte get meaningfully more than 6/$70 despite having both higher floors and higher ceilings than Duda.
The "worst" case if we do nothing and he continues to produce like last year is that we have him for three more years and (i) we resign him for market value, or (ii) he leaves and we get a 1st round pick.
I'd rather be working to sign Lagares to something.
Good call Dan. Let's just hope Murphy isn't out a while by reggravating the hammy.