The Pittsburgh Steelers and San Diego Chargers have booked Nebraska edge player Randy Gregory for visits, reports TFY Draft Insider's Tony Pauline.
"The belief is both New York teams, the Jets and Giants, also have a lot of interest in Gregory, though I've not confirmed a visit with him from either squad," the analyst reported. He previously reported that Gregory has private workouts scheduled with the Washington Redskins, Atlanta Falcons and Oakland Raiders over the next week. Gregory weighed in at 243 pounds and hoisted up 26 reps on the bench. He posted a 1.56 second 10-yard split on his 4.53 seconds forty.
Hard to imagine that the failed drug test didn't perturb Coughlin and Reese since they mostly go after the model citizen/leader. Even so, are they willing to bank on Gregory building the mass to become a three-down DE instead of a situational pass rusher?
He is also light in the pants and, if I read the article correctly, he seems to always have an excuse for whatever ills him.
I stopped smoking in December, but there were still metabolites in my system???
Yeah, OK...
I agree. It dosn't matter what we think of NFL policy, the policy is what it is. I would prefer to see the NFL step back from things like weed and move heavier into PHD's, but when you invest in a player you don't have the luxury of pondering on how you think things should work, you have to deal with how they do in the real world.
Interest in the player is fine, they should do their diligence like I'm sure they will. They should probably talk to the young man if in fact they have that interest and see if there is something in him that realizes that he is about to enter the adult real life world. But in the end, given what they went through with Hill, do they want to roll that dice with a top pick..........even a second round if he falls to us there, which he very well might given the NFL climate?
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....Gregory would have to be LT to get drafted here. No way that is happening.
He is also light in the pants and, if I read the article correctly, he seems to always have an excuse for whatever ills him.
I stopped smoking in December, but there were still metabolites in my system???
Yeah, OK...
I agree. It dosn't matter what we think of NFL policy, the policy is what it is. I would prefer to see the NFL step back from things like weed and move heavier into PHD's, but when you invest in a player you don't have the luxury of pondering on how you think things should work, you have to deal with how they do in the real world.
Interest in the player is fine, they should do their diligence like I'm sure they will. They should probably talk to the young man if in fact they have that interest and see if there is something in him that realizes that he is about to enter the adult real life world. But in the end, given what they went through with Hill, do they want to roll that dice with a top pick..........even a second round if he falls to us there, which he very well might given the NFL climate?
This.....+1
What, pot is so important that he is willing to risk $millions in order to smoke it?
The lack of maturity that shows is appalling.
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his problem is the mindless NFL policy on pot. no one would or should care if he likes lighting up, as long as he produces on the field. what makes him undraftable at #9 is the fact that he faces increasingly long suspensions if/when he's caught again. Get rid of that stupid policy and it's a non-issue. Until then, it's a huge issue.
Geezus, not again. They should do away with the HGH and Steroid restrictions, too.
Fuck it, right? Let's make it a complete freakshow and have them do blast of coke and meth on the sideline right before kickoffs.
Or, my other idea which is to pay everyone $100,000 a year and the SuperBowl winner gets all the remaining contract money to split amongst themselves. Kind of my boxing theory, also.
What, pot is so important that he is willing to risk $millions in order to smoke it?
The lack of maturity that shows is appalling.
Beah, heah!!!
I wish he was selected before us.......now, that won't happen......so we basicly dropped down a slot.
I would say that a person that cannot stop smoking long enough to pass the NFL drug test and cost himself several million dollars has a drug problem. That he says he smoked so much that it was residual from December is an indication that he has a problem (but pot does not last that long in the body - only 3 to 4 weeks).
There are lots of laws we do not like, but they are still laws until repealed.
Some strong voices here reject his selection out of hand because he was just stupid enough to forfeit millions because his draft position just sank. Immaturity, quite likely; head case? Speculation. He won't be there at #40. I hadn't been aware of questions as to his ability such as George in Pa raised.
The question is divisive here and might be so in the FO. Odds are the Giants will pass if he's there, but it is a position of distinct need and he has been rated highly. Will Hill was a serial abuser of trust in his maturity even before the Giants signed him and that didn't stop them, so maybe his case is the linchpin.
good post Sneakers
Gilbride was asked about the situation on PFF the other night and basically brushed it off saying it's not something he does or necessarily condones but he's grown to understand that a lot of players do it now and look at it just like taking a drink so he understands and didn't think it would be that much of a problem as long as everything else checks out.
Hill, despite multiple chances and a team effort to support him, couldn't or didn't want to.
It all depends on what they see in Gregory.
But, at pick 9, they're going to be a whole lot more discerning than spending a 7th on Ahmad.
But, at pick 9, they're going to be a whole lot more discerning than spending a 7th on Ahmad.
Bingo....
Undrafted Free Agent
7th round pick
Udrafted Free Agent...
NOT #9 overall..
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Christian Peter, Ahmad, Will Hill.
Undrafted Free Agent
7th round pick
Udrafted Free Agent...
NOT #9 overall..
While I understand the point, none of those players was as highly ranked in THEIR draft class as this kid...when you factor in the lack of blue chip talent in this particular draft along with the NFL relaxing weed penalties a bit, it presents a different scenario.
3rd time failed pot test? I bet he's dropped out of the first round completely...
You are missing the point. If the NFL had a policy of not wearing red socks, and despite knowing it would cost you millions in the draft, you wore red socks anyway!!! After being caught and punished several times in college for a red sock violation!?! A fellow like that does not have much self discipline and also may be a few crayons short of a full box.
(Eh, being 5 minutes early for a meeting doesn't make much sense to me; I'll just arrive on the dot.)
3rd time failed pot test? I bet he's dropped out of the first round completely...
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there's any way this kid drops out of the top 15...let alone the first round. I've read some think he's the best pure pass rusher in this draft. I Believe it was Kim Jones but don't remember...anyway, the reporter said he wanted to get out in front of the story and talked about his weed smoking in all the combine interviews even bringing it up first if the team didn't as he wanted to be upfront about it.
3rd time failed pot test? I bet he's dropped out of the first round completely...
I really don't think so...too big of a talent in too weak of a class.
He is also light in the pants and, if I read the article correctly, he seems to always have an excuse for whatever ills him.
I stopped smoking in December, but there were still metabolites in my system???
Yeah, OK...
To me that is a big red flag. No accountability. Just own up to it and accept responsibility
Maybe...maybe not, he's the one guy I thought could drop that absolutely had a very good chance of being the Giants pick at 9...impossible to know their thinking now but I definitely wouldn't rule him out. I do think this is old news for teams and they have already done their due diligence on this issue.
Dupree is the next closest but is more stout than angular. In other words does not possess the long and wide wing-spanned frame like Kiwi, Osi, Strahan, JPP even Canty. There is a pretty strong pattern for body types within that group.
If the MJ doesn't dissuade them (which it could as Giants are big on character) he could very well be their #1 target at DE even over Beasley.
Dupree is the next closest but is more stout than angular. In other words does not possess the long and wide wing-spanned frame like Kiwi, Osi, Strahan, JPP even Canty. There is a pretty strong pattern for body types within that group.
If the MJ doesn't dissuade them (which it could as Giants are big on character) he could very well be their #1 target at DE even over Beasley.
Couldn't agree more, absent this issue I'd bet this kid would be their number one target unless Williams or Cooper inexplicably dropped....and I still think he gets picked before 9.
He also doesn't fit our system.
We're one month away from the draft. Reporters are looking for stories. The "belief" is that the Giants have a lot of interest in Gregory? What does "belief" mean?
Gregory at #9 would be stunning. And disappointing.
Torrag you could be right. But this team is borderline DE obsessed. Also Depends on how bad they think the pot stuff is. The information we have is still too superficial to make a judgement IMO. Need to really interview the kid to see if he is ready to grow up. Can't just simply label this a Will Hill situation.
He seems alot like Dion Jordan on size, drug use, and likely bust potential without the upside. No chance he is our pick at 9.
I was worse at Nebraska than I've ever been at any other time of my life. But I know how I am now. I think if teams really look at how I am now more so than the past, they'll see I'm making strides to get better, as a person and as a player.
I say he doesn't sound belligerent about it and is admitting it's been a weakness.
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He seems alot like Dion Jordan on size, drug use, and likely bust potential without the upside. No chance he is our pick at 9.
+1
Add 20lbs to a narrow base and he's still only 255lbs and we no idea if the speed/first step will be effected. He might still be a fun support liability at 255lbs. 235lbs is a joke.
The real problem is that he's entering Stage 1, but they've recently become more lax with marijuana and that will only continue as the public becomes more and more lax with the drug (which it will). NFL is reactionary, I'd be more concerned with a guy attracted to the party lifestyle (DUIs and bar fights) or domestic violence than a pothead going forward.
The drug issue, and his own statement indicated a heavy use before the Combine.
If he slips to the 3rd rd., he would fit the analysis of a situational DE that maybe could grow to a Justin Houston; that all is not worth a risk at #9.
What about states where you have a medical waiver to use?
What about states where you have a medical waiver to use?
How many employers anywhere actually drug test their employees? Probably only certain titles in public safety related fields. I'm sure that nothing changed for those few subject to drug screening before the legalization.