Would the Giants go OL in rounds 1 and 2?

I won't lose too much sleep either way. I remember getting very upset a few decades ago when a weak Giants team, whose only position of strength was LB, drafted a tweener (although I don't think the word was in use then) college DE to play LB with the #2 overall pick. (For those of you too young to remember that was LT) Since then, I have decided I'll root for whoever they pick.

Even if they do pick OL with their first two picks, it would be unlikely they get two stars. A top 10 overall pick, historically, has something like a 25% chance of being a star and about a 35% chance on top of that of being a solid starter. Yes, the draft really is that much of a crap shoot.

saying something about the Oline years ago that you could just grab some JAGS and throw them up there and be fine?

That wasn't the wording but it meant the same.

In comment 12209943 mrvax said:

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saying something about the Oline years ago that you could just grab some JAGS and throw them up there and be fine? That wasn't the wording but it meant the same.

Was that before or after he had to run out and overpay Lomas Brown, Glenn Parker and Dusty Ziegler and pray they had anything left in the tank? They pretty much all had 1 good year and went bust

Jerry has let this o-line get so bad in need that he no longer has the luxury of going BPA if he wants to field a competitive team. We've been begging for them to fix the o-line for three years now. Jerry does not have any choice now.

Beatty is inconsistent
Jerry sucks
Schwartz injured twice last year and wasn't that great when he did play.
Richburgh is supposed to be a good center but still an unknown
Pugh - Good but not great.
Only 3rd or 4th string guys behind them.

It's really going to suck if we have to have another season without a running game and where Eli has to rush to get rid of the ball on every play.

in the Top 50 in back to back drafts. This "Reese doesn't care about the OL!" shit is so stupid. Clearly he does value OL as the Pugh and Richburg selections prove.

Our OL isn't as weak as our front 7. If we're going strictly by "need", we would draft pass rushers and linebackers before we go OL.

In comment 12209352 Salty Meats said:

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OL in round one and two makes too much sense for this guy. Have to take a project or a guy with an African name who has enormous upside that no one else sees.

Anyone want to bother e-mailing this to Bold so we can get rid of this guy once and for all?

We already a significant investment in the line 2nd (Beatty), 2nd (Richberg), 1st (Pugh) and a big UFA contract (Schwartz). I just don't think they'd invest another #1 and #2 to that unit.

I think Jerry is itchin' to pick a position he deems to be a playmaker @ #9. Passrusher, receiver, corner... something like that.

In comment 12208717 blueblood said:

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I wouldnt see an issue with it.. but I doubt then will. I learned a few years back.. dont get to attached to who you want and what the team will do.. just accept it.. because guess what.. whether you are mad or not.. It dont change nothing.

I seriously think it is a Myth that the Giants draft on BPA only. They have been clearly drafting need in recent years.

2009 Hakeem Nicks ( burress gone )
2010 Jason Pierre-Paul ( Strahan gone and Osi aging )
2011 19 Prince Amukamara
2012 32 David Wilson ( Ahmad Bradshaw gone )
2013 19 Justin Pugh ( no need for comment )
2014 12 Odell Beckham, Jr. Wide receiver ( Nicks gone )

The key thing is whether you reach to meet the need. There are usually a few players with similar grades and then need breaks the tie.

I don't think any of those picks are reaches, maybe Pugh?

As for the OP, I would love the Giants to bolster the line, OL/DL with multiple picks this year. Lack of dominating the LOS is the main difference between this Giants team and the one that hoisted the Lombardi trophy at the end of the season.

keeps saying it. They have "tiers" or groupings of players. When it comes tho their pick they look at who is left in the current tier being around that spot. From those remaining guys they pick the best fit/need for the team based on the current roster and the players left in the draft. There have been exceptions where a guy from the higher tier was still there and they have taken them, Prince is one, but for the most part they know who is roughly going where. Since they have determined all the guys in the tier are close enough per the Giants scouting dept., at that point the do a combination of BPA and need.

as long as they panned out. Think about it, we likely get the top rated lineman in the draft in Round 1 and a solid guard in round 2. That should mean this offense is set, baring injury to Eli and he who catches with one hand.

For this to happen I think guys like Beasley, Cooper, and White are off the board when we pick in Rd. 1.

ive said it on here before. Fix the Line. Fix the Giants.

1988 Giants selected Eric Moore round 1, Jumbo Elliot round 2. That was on hell of a draft. Go for what ever we need to win. To win we need to run the ball. Last year proved that we did not have enough talent up front. Go get them and draft S in 3 and 4.

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We need another starter Phil in LA : 3/29/2015 12:18 pm : link : reply and better depth. So, if we take one in 1 and the BPA in 2, or 3 is also an OL we should grab him. We've done really poorly with late round OL's since Diehl.

So because we've drafted poorly in the later rounds we should over spend critical draft resources at a position even though we have critical needs in other areas? Here's a better idea. Expect the scouting department to do their jobs instead of drafting scared. The 'better depth' you allude to should be attainable in the mid rounds(4-5) if our FO gets their act together. As it shows signs of doing with the Kennard and Williams picks from last year.

were deffo bpa available prince and beckham
but its very true they go BPA at a position of need
versus pure BPA as they claim

i would be fine with going OL rounds 1 and 2 but you would need to get 2 probowl caliber players if you go that way to justify the neglect to DE or have a 3rd round DE you felt could start year 1

thats why i would want la'el collins in round 1,a DE in round 2 arik armstead or carl davis maybe and an OG in round 3 (marpet?) the best of both worlds they fix the OL completely this year plus get spags some help at DE look for safety in round 4 and round out the draft with a WR,TE and LB (in order they consider best)

In this draft, we definitely could use some "luck" and get two draft picks that start as rookies. That would be great.

Two OL's that start - not likely! I am thankful we signed Canadian B. Jones for OG and OC duties cause I have a feeling he makes the team and does really well. Remember, he played college ball and has two years of CFL experience so he isn't totally raw like a rookie.

Beatty-Jones-Richburg-Schwartz-Pugh would be nice especially if all are healthy and Jones really comes on and surprises like Seubert did. We'd be blessed.

Hoping a CFL player surprises is your 'plan' to upgrade our O-Line? Not good enough imo, not good enough by half.

For a starting spot. But I'd be surprised if the Giants don't take an OL by 40. However I think it will be only one in the top 3-4 rounds. We will likely take the obligatory DE and S too.

In fact even with how fluid the draft is I think the top 4 rounds will end up DE, OL, S, WR/TE in no particular order. We don't really have the luxury to cluster draft.

No matter how much I watch scherff or Collins I just can't see them as top 10 picks. they are the 2 best prospects IMO so obviously the others are out.
I dn't see the Giants drafting any OL before 40 where the value starts to marry up with need.
Maybe I'm wrong but I hope not,and whoever they draft I will become an instant fan. Some more than others obviously. When I hear if the Giants draft this person I will throw my remote. How dumb and childish is that. I may be hoping for a different player but always reserve judgment until I actually see what they're capable of on the field in the NFL.
IMO they need 1 guy to hopefully push Jerry out of the starting lineup and depth. If Jerry does lose his job wich is best case scenario then that takes care of the depth problem at G. Hopefully at somepoint they find an upgrade over Newhouse as I'd hate to see him play any extended time at either T position. But contrary to popular belief there are 7 rounds,8 selections overall,and there will be a lot of good football players available.
S is a position on here that commonly gets overlooked. I dare say that it's more important at this point to find some competition at S than it is OL,as they could live with Schwartz and Jerry if they both stay healthy. That's a big if with Schwartz so it is important to atleast invest in depth at the very least. They can not however count on 2 2nd and 3rd year 5th round picks to be the salution at S,especially Cooper Taylor as he's shown to be injury prone.
So no,I think it's highly unlikely they draft OL in the 1st and 2nd rounds. Ofcourse I think it's highly unlikely they go OL before 40.
We can speculate all we want as to what direction they will go with there picks but we really don't know!?!
What I do know is that there isn't an OL in this draft worthy of a top 10 selection and I hope the Giants go in a different direction. If they don't I'll reserve judgment and hope I'm wrong!!!

So maybe, just maybe BBI will finally shut up about the online.

And stop with Dallas. They got their qb beat up and broken up.

I hate to break it to you but it's not the 80's anymore and it is a passing league first and foremost. So that logic just doesn't fit in 2015...

I agree that events from two decades ago by a regime so far removed from the present are irrelevant. The current roster status at OL/DL/S/WR/TE/CB preclude the luxury of cluster drafting in the early rounds.

Have one of the worst OLs in the league?

I want Beasley or Fowler more than any OL. But pretending you can win w WRs is just not happening. Atlanta and Det are great examples of teams that have a lot of WR talent and it's gotten them nowhere.

Also for those who say it's always BPA. Bullshit. Out Of 300 players in almost every round you will have players very closely ranked when it's time to pick Suppose a top tier WR falls into the third round and the Giants picked White. They aren't grabbing another WR.

Also Reese has made it clear that he values WRs DL and CBs more than other positons. So his philosphy is to pass on a LB. He passes on Sean Lee who despite injuries has been great for Joseph. Neither was a bad pick. BPA is subjective. You can find 20 different opinions when comparing players by the GMs. Just like there's different opinions Here

I hate to tell ya dude but as far as keeping Eli upright the Giants were 12th best in the league last year,so your argument doesn't support the facts!!
By the way,did I say ignore the OL completely? here I thought I mentioned the Giants could use an upgrade over Jerry and depth all over the OL.
Here's another one that thinks the draft is only one round!! Haha...

I think if either of the top WR playmakers are there for us in round 1 we'll take one and go for an O lineman in round 2, Reese loves his playmakers and after last season watching OBJ show us what a big talent can do he will want a redo...