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NFT: NBA: Golden State gets to 60 wins

dpinzow : 3/29/2015 1:01 am
First time in the history of the Warriors that they've won 60 in a season. They're at 60-13 now, and a 67 or 68 win season in that Western Conference would be the most impressive regular season at least the first Shaq-Kobe Lakers championship (2000) and the Jordan Bulls. It'll be really fascinating to see Curry and company handle the expectations of being title favorites instead of a plucky underdog that shoots a lot of threes. It is completely different being the hunted in the NBA and other teams are going to give them their best shot.

They've only lost twice at Oracle Arena all season (to San Antonio and Chicago in OT). Although they're nearly invincible at Oracle they might want the Spurs on the other side of the bracket at 6 or 7 instead of moving up to 5 so other teams have 2 chances to knock them out since San Antonio is not nearly as affected by a wild road crowd as some of the other teams in the West.
And the Knicks got to 60 losses  
Anakim : 3/29/2015 1:31 am : link
Derek Fisher and Steve Kerr. Talk about heading in different directions...
meh  
charlito : 3/29/2015 1:38 am : link
All about who the Knicks are gonna draft. Center from Duke or 1 of the 2 Bigs from Kentucky. I'm for Okafor. He's the best offensive player and passer. Wished he played D like Willie Cauley stein though.
Towns is a better passer  
MookGiants : 3/29/2015 1:44 am : link
than Okafor. And no thanks on WCS. He had Pat Connaughton on him all game and was a complete non-factor offensively. He has zero skill offensively.
RE: Towns is a better passer  
charlito : 3/29/2015 1:51 am : link
In comment 12208726 MookGiants said:
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than Okafor. And no thanks on WCS. He had Pat Connaughton on him all game and was a complete non-factor offensively. He has zero skill offensively.


Watch Okafor pass out of the double teams today.How many times did Towns get double teamed last night? If Notre Dame single covered Okafor he would of been 27-28. His offense is far more superior than Towns.
RE: RE: Towns is a better passer  
MookGiants : 3/29/2015 1:53 am : link
In comment 12208729 charlito said:
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than Okafor. And no thanks on WCS. He had Pat Connaughton on him all game and was a complete non-factor offensively. He has zero skill offensively.



Watch Okafor pass out of the double teams today.How many times did Towns get double teamed last night? If Notre Dame single covered Okafor he would of been 27-28. His offense is far more superior than Towns.


Okafor turned the ball over 3 times passing out of double teams last night.
posted this on wrong thread  
MookGiants : 3/29/2015 1:56 am : link
he had 6 points
MookGiants : 1:56 am : link : reply
and 4 turnovers. He also had as many assists against Utah as I did sitting on my couch. But yeah, watch him pass out of the double teams! Who cares that he couldn't do it for shit against Utah. Watch him tonight!

He's not a bad passer, but Towns is better imo.
RE: Towns is a better passer  
charlito : 3/29/2015 2:00 am : link
In comment 12208726 MookGiants said:
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than Okafor. And no thanks on WCS. He had Pat Connaughton on him all game and was a complete non-factor offensively. He has zero skill offensively.


He had a bad game. I'll be happy with either one . Okafor offense and passing reminds me of Tim Duncan even his missed free throws down the stretch.
Love watching GS  
SanFranNowNCGiantsFan : 3/29/2015 6:33 am : link
Warriors-Thunder would have been must see TV if KD was healthy.
Warriors  
RetroJint : 3/29/2015 9:30 am : link
are my favorite diversion in professional sports. Congrats on the 60; now, win it all.
if there's ever been a reason  
santacruzom : 3/29/2015 6:22 pm : link
to believe in the power of coaching, it's this Warriors season.

For starters, every single player on their roster is playing better than they were last season, with the possible exception of David Lee. And I imagine he'd be playing better if he were playing regular minutes. The mere fact that Kerr -- as a first year coach no less -- took the risk of sticking with Draymond Green over Lee and starting Barnes over Iguodala is telling in itself, and it's just among all the buttons he's pressed so far that have worked.

Their out-of-bounds plays are awesome and they're blowing teams apart in the third quarter routinely -- almost without fail, really. That suggests they routinely make effective adjustments. The players love and trust him, he's kept things loose yet hasn't sacrificed accountability, he listens to them, he can give them not-so-great news about minutes but with a palatable delivery.

He's gotta be coach of the year.
they are an amazing team  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 3/29/2015 7:03 pm : link
You could easily argue that what they're doing right now is more impressive than what the '96 Bulls did. They are in a FAAAAAAAR tougher conference than that Bulls team was in.

This is one of the all-time great regular season teams. They finish this off and they go down as an all-time team.

I love Harden and what Westbrook has done the last couple of months has been mind-boggling... but Steph Curry is the MVP. He's a special player.

Don't look now but the Spurs are peaking at the right time though. Definitely the team with the best shot at knocking off the Warriors imo.

And Cleveland has been dominant since LeBron came back. They're definitely a legit title contender.
It is unbelievable to me  
short lease : 3/29/2015 7:15 pm : link
where this team has come from. I moved out here in 1986 ...and this organization flirted with success but, never really had a shot (Sleepy Floyd era ... Chris Mullin/Tim Hardaway era). They didn't even make the play-offs last year. How did this happen?

Lovin' every minute of it!.
the Warriors are the most fun team  
PaulBlakeTSU : 3/29/2015 7:16 pm : link
to watch in the NBA. They pull of the rare feat of playing very uptempo but playing in a very controlled manner. Also, Curry is the most exciting player to watch in the NBA. He isn't the best or the most dominant, but I get more enjoyment watching him play well than anyone else in the league. And Draymond Green is playing like that guy that every team would love to have.
I want Curry to win the MVP  
PaulBlakeTSU : 3/29/2015 7:20 pm : link
because I like him more than Harden/Westbrook, but it's like picking 1 seeds this year. You could make an argument for any of them. I am also usually of the opinion that Lebron should win the MVP every year.
RE: It is unbelievable to me  
SanFranNowNCGiantsFan : 3/29/2015 7:30 pm : link
In comment 12209518 short lease said:
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where this team has come from. I moved out here in 1986 ...and this organization flirted with success but, never really had a shot (Sleepy Floyd era ... Chris Mullin/Tim Hardaway era). They didn't even make the play-offs last year. How did this happen?

Lovin' every minute of it!.



Uh, they did make the playoffs last season.
yea it's a very good MVP race  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 3/29/2015 7:30 pm : link
All 4 of those guys have legit cases and unique angles.

LeBron is LeBron
Curry is the cornerstone of a historic team
Harden's got the best one-man-carryjob argument this year
Westbrook has the most eye-popping numbers and style

Anthony Davis is coming though, amazing how he's not really in the mix this year

Curry should get it though imo. He's one of the all-time great Offensive guards we've ever seen. His shooting/ball-handling/passing combination is just unreal.
RE: RE: It is unbelievable to me  
short lease : 3/29/2015 8:08 pm : link
In comment 12209535 SanFranNowNCGiantsFan said:
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where this team has come from. I moved out here in 1986 ...and this organization flirted with success but, never really had a shot (Sleepy Floyd era ... Chris Mullin/Tim Hardaway era). They didn't even make the play-offs last year. How did this happen?

Lovin' every minute of it!.




Uh, they did make the playoffs last season.



Why do you have to get facts in the way of a good argument?
RE: yea it's a very good MVP race  
santacruzom : 3/29/2015 8:22 pm : link
In comment 12209536 Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy said:
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Curry should get it though imo. He's one of the all-time great Offensive guards we've ever seen. His shooting/ball-handling/passing combination is just unreal.


Have we even seen Curry's peak yet? There's no logical reason to think we have, since he's improved at least one part of his game every year. This season, his assist-to-turnover ratio is probably better (haven't actually looked it up) and his defensive is substantially better.

The other thing that speaks to Kerr's coaching is the staff he's assembled. Jackson's ego prevented him from doing what Kerr has done, which is to assemble a staff that has addressed nearly all of the Warriors' weaknesses. Their turnovers are down, they're suddenly no longer getting injured at a Giants-like pace, they're not losing game they should win, etc. The only thing he hasn't cured is their weird inability to get calls -- they're always shooting less free throws than their opponent. But that'll come I'm sure.
after Durant's season  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 3/29/2015 8:33 pm : link
and with Curry's injury history, I'd hold off on "have seen him at his best yet?" talk. I don't know if we have, but I do know that what he is right now is amazing.

I was very high on the Warriors entering the year. Thought they had the highest ceiling in the league. Even said so in our NBA season thread at a time when everyone was on the Clippers bandwagon (pats self on back).

Main reason I thought that?

Last year the Warriors ranked DEAD LAST in passes per game by a large margin. When I saw that stat I was just shocked. That was reason enough for a coaching change. Even with the abysmal passing, the Warriors offense was 12th in ORtg last year to go with a Top 5 D.

I knew this offense had another level to it this year if they could just pass the ball. This year they rank 8th in passes per game and have a Top 3 Offense to show for it.

And for all the love Curry, Klay, and Draymond get... Andrew Bogut is such a great piece on that team. Really is a shame he's so injury prone but he makes a huge impact when healthy.
RE: after Durant's season  
santacruzom : 3/29/2015 8:41 pm : link
In comment 12209629 Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy said:
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I knew this offense had another level to it this year if they could just pass the ball. This year they rank 8th in passes per game and have a Top 3 Offense to show for it.

And for all the love Curry, Klay, and Draymond get... Andrew Bogut is such a great piece on that team. Really is a shame he's so injury prone but he makes a huge impact when healthy.


I also have to tip my hat to Barnes, who was so poorly used last year that it left many (including myself) wondering if he was simply not a good player, or at least not a good fit on the Warriors' roster. Jackson rarely had him playing with any of the starters (I recently read that the starting lineup they used this season NEVER was on the floor together last season!), and all too often he'd simply camp out in the corner and stand there, waiting for the ball so he could go one-and-one against someone.

I wouldn't bet against him being a much better player next season. Kerr just seems like he's got a magic touch with player development.
yea I remember  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 3/29/2015 8:46 pm : link
talking about Barnes with you earlier in the year. I've always rooted for him since he was at UNC because he'd always show there flashes of brilliance. But outside of those random moments he would look meh.

I was pretty close to giving up on him finally. But then somehow out of nowhere he becomes a 43% 3pt shooter this year. That shooting to go with his athleticism and size makes him another valuable piece on that team.

It's just been a perfect storm for the Warriors this year, so far atleast.
watch out for the Spurs though santa  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 3/29/2015 9:03 pm : link
they are coming hard right now.

I think the West is going to come down to a Warriors vs. Spurs series. I think the Spurs are the only WC team with a real shot to take a healthy Warriors squad down. Maybe the Clippers with a tiny chance but GS has so much more depth.
I agree that the Warriors  
PaulBlakeTSU : 3/29/2015 9:11 pm : link
are playing better basketball all around with Kerr than under Jackson. However, I do think some of that is just due to players like Curry, Thompson, and Green all improving naturally with experience.
no doubt  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 3/29/2015 9:24 pm : link
Klay and Draymond both hit another level this year.

It's not all Kerr by any means, this is the NBA where player's matter more than any other league. But he's definitely made a big difference.
Osi  
PaulBlakeTSU : 3/29/2015 9:34 pm : link
I agree. I always liked Mark Jackson, but Kerr has been great this year. I can't imagine how much he has picked up about winning basketball from his time spent with Phil Jackson and Michael Jordan's Bulls and Popovich's and Duncan's Spurs.
like MOM always used to say  
santacruzom : 3/29/2015 9:45 pm : link
It's safer to bet on the field than on one particular team (or something to that effect). The Warriors have a great shot and they're certainly playing championship-caliber ball right now, especially since they'll have home court. But anything can happen, and I'd never bet against the Spurs in the playoffs.
Spurs Warriors would be a great  
SanFranNowNCGiantsFan : 3/30/2015 6:23 am : link
series.
I agree  
santacruzom : 3/30/2015 3:36 pm : link
because it would be a great "benchmark series" for the Warriors... it seems like the Spurs always have their number. But I also really want to see GS vs the Clippers. There is downright animosity between those teams.
my life is now complete  
hitdog42 : 3/30/2015 4:03 pm : link
Brook Lopez Conference player of the week.
RE: I agree  
SanFranNowNCGiantsFan : 3/30/2015 6:53 pm : link
In comment 12210693 santacruzom said:
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because it would be a great "benchmark series" for the Warriors... it seems like the Spurs always have their number. But I also really want to see GS vs the Clippers. There is downright animosity between those teams.


Spurs are starting to look dangerous just in time for the postseason.
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