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Hakeem Nicks Visiting 49ers

Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/30/2015 10:07 am
Adam Schefter & #8207;@AdamSchefter 12m12 minutes ago

Former Colts and Giants WR Hakeem Nicks is traveling to SF today to meet with 49ers officials, per source.
Oh, how the mighty have fallen.  
Klaatu : 3/30/2015 10:08 am : link
...
If you told me 5 years ago  
Jolly Blue Giant : 3/30/2015 10:11 am : link
That our starting recievers in 2015 would be Steve Smith, Hakeem Nicks, and Mario Manningham, I would be pretty happy.
I wanted Giants to keep him  
joeinpa : 3/30/2015 10:39 am : link
once again they knew more than me.

Should have known when during a contract year ineffectiveness equates to being done.
Good for him.  
Emlen'sGremlins : 3/30/2015 10:50 am : link
At least the guy has been fortunate enough to move on to winning organizations.
RE: Good for him.  
Toth029 : 3/30/2015 10:51 am : link
In comment 12210157 Emlen'sGremlins said:
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At least the guy has been fortunate enough to move on to winning organizations.

SF aren't winning anything any time soon.
LOL..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 3/30/2015 10:51 am : link
this fuck even backhands the Giants in posts that have no connection.
And this is Emlen's MO..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 3/30/2015 10:52 am : link
he'd rather blow organizations like the Niners who have won jackshit while minimizing the Giants 2 Super Bowls.

I'm so fucking glad we have fans like him.
I still wonder if he had been shut down after the TB game  
RappingFrog : 3/30/2015 10:54 am : link
where he got hurt (the one early in the season when he and Cruz put up huge numbers) if he could have recovered and went on to have a good career. He was never the same after that game and his knees and ankle continued to take a beating the rest of the season.
Nicks problem..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 3/30/2015 10:56 am : link
wasn't playing through an injury - it was that he got compartment syndrome and was never ever to get the explosion back. It is unlikely he ever will as he was left with nerve and vein issues in his legs.
RE: Oh, how the mighty have fallen.  
Mike in Long Beach : 3/30/2015 10:56 am : link
In comment 12210090 Klaatu said:
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The 9ers or Nicks? ;)
RE: Nicks problem..  
Big Blue '56 : 3/30/2015 11:05 am : link
In comment 12210167 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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wasn't playing through an injury - it was that he got compartment syndrome and was never ever to get the explosion back. It is unlikely he ever will as he was left with nerve and vein issues in his legs.


Your posts on this have caused me to re-thing the "dogging it" posture I have taken
Frankly..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 3/30/2015 11:10 am : link
I don't know much about Nick's work ethic. what I do know is that the compartment syndrome really scared the crap out of him.

For those who don't know what it is, it is a complication that will arise from some lower limb injuries (and sometimes abdominal injuries)where the pressure inside the leg will build up can cause some serious problems, mainly because the sustained pressure starts damaging veins, blood vessels, muscles, etc.

Nick's was so serious, that at one point, amputation would have been a possibility if deep incisions to release the pressure failed.
Compartment syndrome is bad, bad, bad  
English Alaister : 3/30/2015 11:21 am : link
That does explain a lot. I'd either never known or forgotten that.
scary  
Les in TO : 3/30/2015 11:23 am : link
didn't realize his medical issues were that serious.
It is one of the reasons..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 3/30/2015 11:40 am : link
I really refrain from questioning player's efforts. I remember some people ripping into carlos Emmons after what looked to be poor effort in a game when it turned out he was playing with a separated shoulder.
Nick's got compartment syndrome in Nov of 2010 but went on to  
RappingFrog : 3/30/2015 12:13 pm : link
have a good 2011 and a fantastic playoff run en route to a dominant Superbowl.

I don't seem to remember him struggling until 2012. Maybe is just took a while to catch up with him but I thought he made a full recovery from the scare with compartment syndrome.

Only he probably knows for sure, I am curious what he would have to say about it (assuming he could be honest with the public.)
FatMan  
Matt M. : 3/30/2015 12:36 pm : link
Was it well known he had compartment syndrome? For some reason, this is resonating as brand new to me. I must have just forgotten.
Matt..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 3/30/2015 12:58 pm : link
I don't think it is well known because teams are reluctant to discuss player injuries that could have a lingering effect.

With Nicks, it is a situation where there has been damage to veins and nerves, which will present complications for the rest of his life.
Rapping...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 3/30/2015 1:01 pm : link
Unfortunately, having compartment syndrome caused complications after his other lower leg injuries because of the nerve and vein damage.

The effect on Nicks long term is that he has circulatory problems which will affect the rate and extent of healing and his ability to regain strength and mass in his legs, which will affect speed and stability.

After learning the extent of his condition, I'm actually really surprised he's been able to still play in the NFL, even if he's now a role player or a marginal WR.
That does make a lot of sense. That could have been a huge  
RappingFrog : 3/30/2015 1:37 pm : link
factor in his inability to recover from his injuries.
RE: That does make a lot of sense. That could have been a huge  
Big Blue '56 : 3/30/2015 1:40 pm : link
In comment 12210474 RappingFrog said:
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factor in his inability to recover from his injuries.


You used to be so dangerous!
haha thx BB'56 :)  
RappingFrog : 3/30/2015 1:44 pm : link
I got so frustrated trying to sign up again that my handle got shorter with each effort; lazy of me. Hopefully I can find time to start posting more again.
Did not Strahan have a year  
Fred in Atlanta : 3/30/2015 1:52 pm : link
where he was highly criticized, but after the year was over it was revealed that he had an injured shoulder that was so bad he could not lift weights?
RE: haha thx BB'56 :)  
Big Blue '56 : 3/30/2015 1:56 pm : link
In comment 12210491 RappingFrog said:
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I got so frustrated trying to sign up again that my handle got shorter with each effort; lazy of me. Hopefully I can find time to start posting more again.


Hopefully you will..You're one of the good ones
RE: Frankly..  
Percy : 3/31/2015 12:51 am : link
In comment 12210197 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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I don't know much about Nick's work ethic. what I do know is that the compartment syndrome really scared the crap out of him.

For those who don't know what it is, it is a complication that will arise from some lower limb injuries (and sometimes abdominal injuries)where the pressure inside the leg will build up can cause some serious problems, mainly because the sustained pressure starts damaging veins, blood vessels, muscles, etc.

Nick's was so serious, that at one point, amputation would have been a possibility if deep incisions to release the pressure failed.


Did not know anything about this. Thanks for putting it up.
It wasn't compartment syndrome  
mrvax : 3/31/2015 2:16 am : link
that caused Nicks to be either late or absent from his scheduled trainer's rehabs. It probably wasn't CS either when he came down with a mysterious illness that kept him from practicing and therefore playing just prior to playing the Cows in 2013.
I think sometimes..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 3/31/2015 8:08 am : link
we expect players to be robots, and in a perfect world, we'd suit up Cleatus and take on all comers.

I'm pretty sure it has to be really difficult to try and make sense of how to handle having diminished physical performance just a couple years from being a top player.

I can't speak to what players are thinking, but if you've been told you have permanent damage to a body part or have had somebody recommend that you retire or take extended time off, I'm pretty sure that isn't easy to process.

That is the aspect most fans lose focus of.
To wit, Steve Smith,  
Big Blue '56 : 3/31/2015 8:15 am : link
from solid to scrub, because of one unfortunate mishap
Smith is a good example..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 3/31/2015 8:18 am : link
and in a way, his decline was probably easier for most fans to accept because he went from being a top player to being poor. Nicks still is servicable - which then draws into play questions about attitude and work ethic as if only he is holding himself back from stardom instead of physical limitations.
The threads where people actually proposed that he was intentionally  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/31/2015 12:35 pm : link
being lazy when he was playing for a contract extension were comedy gold.
RE: The threads where people actually proposed that he was intentionally  
Big Blue '56 : 3/31/2015 12:40 pm : link
In comment 12211766 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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being lazy when he was playing for a contract extension were comedy gold.


I'm ashamed to admit I was one of those who felt he was dogging it..Had I known what he was dealing with, I'm rather certain that assertion would never have come from me
Perform a search engine search for "compartment syndrome"  
HomerJones45 : 3/31/2015 12:47 pm : link
and look at the images. Warning: NSFL.

No wonder Nicks was concerned. Most of us would be scared shitless.
he's going...  
OBJ_AllDay : 3/31/2015 3:03 pm : link
to be out of the league soon
Nicks' decline was so rapid & drastic  
SanFranNowNCGiantsFan : 4/1/2015 6:32 am : link
That I think a lot of people questioned his work ethic and desire. But if FMIC is right, that changes the whole equation.
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