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If JPP plays out the year on the tag...

Damon : 3/30/2015 7:23 pm
I bet he has a monster season... And then walks. With the cap going up next year, someone will back up a truck of money for him.

Depending on how things shake out... I think we have to draft a pass rusher in the first or second round.



If so  
Carl in CT : 3/30/2015 7:25 pm : link
Tag him Again.
Didn't think you could tag a player in back to back seasons  
Steve in South Jersey : 3/30/2015 7:29 pm : link
what is the rule?
You can tag a player twice  
Ben in Tampa : 3/30/2015 7:30 pm : link
.
Actually I believe you can tag a player three times  
Ben in Tampa : 3/30/2015 7:32 pm : link
But on the third year the player gets the value of the QB tag.

No player in this era would be tagged three times.
Want Orlando pace franchised for like 4 or 5 years in a row  
Shockwave : 3/30/2015 7:43 pm : link
Or somethinglike that? Maybe I'm thinking of the wrong guy, but it seems like it was about 8-10 years ago
The  
AcidTest : 3/30/2015 7:53 pm : link
next tag comes with a 20% increase IIRC. 20% of 15M is $3M, for $18M total. Are we really going to pay that to JPP?
It wont matter  
blueblood : 3/30/2015 8:07 pm : link
If he is worth it.. he gets paid..
Can't see him putting up another 15+ sack season  
OBJ_AllDay : 3/30/2015 8:16 pm : link
Unless he gets some help on that d line. hopefully moore will contribute. Need to find help in generating pressure.
I don't think he'll have  
mrvax : 3/30/2015 8:18 pm : link
that monster year. He would have done it in 2014, IMO. He's very good but not elite.

Hopefully Moore will improve his play in 2015 so a loss of JPP would have minimal affect. The Giants have got to find another good pass rusher in this draft though.

If I were the Giants, I'd plan as if JPP was in his last year here.

Let's say JPP gets 20 sacks next year  
geelabee : 3/30/2015 8:36 pm : link
Then does what he always which is lead the league in tackles for defensive linemen...then what?? It's simple...make a descision about JPP...either pay him now or trade him before this year's draft...JPP is a safer bet then any pass rusher in this year's draft...

I bet if the Giants approached one of the teams in the top 10 slated to pick a pass rusher...they could unload JPP + get a high pick next year...I would rather get something now...then watch him leave next year and get absolutely nothing...
Dream scenario  
geelabee : 3/30/2015 8:43 pm : link
Trade JPP to Oakland for there #4...then get a #3 in 2016...then take Beasely @4 and Shelton @9
...  
christian : 3/30/2015 9:09 pm : link
If JPP has a kick ass year you make him the highest paid DE in the league and you feel lucky you got him for 13 this year.

We are behind the wheel with the cap next year. We'll have a bunch of big decisions to make, but we're going to have a ton of money.

This draft is so insanely important. If we can land a cornerstone lineman and pedigree WR, we are in great shape to retain Manning and JPP.
Gleeabee  
Rjanyg : 3/30/2015 10:48 pm : link
I like the way you think.
Yeah except that by trading JPP  
blueblood : 3/30/2015 10:50 pm : link
you traded your best pass rush and run defending 4-3 end player..

And you get a OLB and a rotational DT..

Think  
TMS : 3/30/2015 11:57 pm : link
JPP goes where the most money is and thats that, Thats the way the game is today,
I'm not holding my breath waiting for JPP to put up a 20 sack season  
JohnB : 3/31/2015 7:07 am : link
He has great abilities but often his play doesn't reflect those abilities. I say tag him and let him have his "monster season" and go from there because I don't think he has it in him.
RE: If so  
jeffusedtobeonwebtv : 3/31/2015 7:29 am : link
In comment 12211019 Carl in CT said:
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Tag him Again.


If you are going to tag JPP again, you better have a signed contract with Eli Manning.

The rationale of if we cannot get it done, we can always tag him if he has a great season, does not work if there are two players who you must have back.
Maybe Michael STrahan  
mrvax : 3/31/2015 8:07 am : link
could to talk to JPP on behalf of the Giants. Strahan was never one to nit-pick over his contract or attempt to squeeze out every last penny he could.
there is no such thing as an irreplacable player  
aquidneck : 3/31/2015 8:14 am : link
If JPP moves on, Giants will have $15-$20 million more annually to invest in other players. Not a a bad consolation prize.

I want JPP to have a monster year for Giants in 2015. That's the only thing he can do to have a positive impact on the Giants' present. Don't really care if he's "gone for no compensation" in 2016.

Pretty sure Pats will be fine w/o Regis. Ditto for Giants with or or without JPP.
Revis  
aquidneck : 3/31/2015 8:15 am : link
Nor Regis. Revis. Auto correct.
mrvax  
JonC : 3/31/2015 8:23 am : link
That isn't true. Strahan held the Giants up for ransom including when he was already under contract wanting more $.
I think fans look at Strahan now  
JonC : 3/31/2015 8:26 am : link
and forget how difficult, tempermental, and rigid he could be as a personality, especially when his contract was a topic.

As for JPP, agree with John here. JPP has significant leverage, but he doesn't perform better than 2014 he's probably not getting the offer he wants from NYG.

He was very good at times last season, and very ordinary at others, until he finished strong against some poor teams.
RE: mrvax  
Big Blue '56 : 3/31/2015 8:26 am : link
In comment 12211321 JonC said:
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That isn't true. Strahan held the Giants up for ransom including when he was already under contract wanting more $.


Iirc, we could have used his reworked contract to field some FAs..He kept saying all that mattered was team, that he would do what he could to make improvements happen..He did not..
What's the latest he could sign a contract  
#10* : 3/31/2015 10:38 am : link
during the season?
RE: RE: mrvax  
Semipro Lineman : 3/31/2015 1:01 pm : link
In comment 12211328 Big Blue '56 said:
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In comment 12211321 JonC said:


Quote:


That isn't true. Strahan held the Giants up for ransom including when he was already under contract wanting more $.



Iirc, we could have used his reworked contract to field some FAs..He kept saying all that mattered was team, that he would do what he could to make improvements happen..He did not..


The Giants apparently offered McCourty a $40M contract which he turned down. Afterwards, the fact that they weren't in serious contention with some of the other Free Agents was probably by choice based on what they felt was the player's true value to them. So JPP contract status was not likely an issue to the Giants
Let's hope he has a bad year  
Randy in CT : 3/31/2015 1:26 pm : link
so we can afford him!!!! hey, wait...
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