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Matt G : 4/1/2015 9:27 am
We will use this as a discussion thread to keep the picks thread uncluttered. These threads will be used for the duration of the entire draft and will need to be bumped occasionally to push them back to page 1 of the forum.

Once a team is on the clock, they will have two hours to make a selection. If a team goes on the clock after 4pm, their two hour window will roll over to the next day. For example, if you go on the clock at 4:30pm, you will have until 9:30 am to make a selection. Picks may be made between 6pm and 9am if GMs are online and following the draft thread. The time limit only applies during the 9am to 6pm timeframe. If the two hour time limit expires, I will make a pick using any list that the GM for the team has sent me in advance (send lists to the email address in my profile) or in the absence of a list, I will use the GBN Big Board with a little discretion so as not make an obvious dumb pick (ie: Indianapolis Colts won’t be taking a QB in the 1st round this year). If a GM misses two consecutive picks without providing a prospect list or making some form of contact with me (email or posting on the draft thread) BlueManFu, BigBlueDownTheShore, odunde and uncledave will have priority to fill the vacancy. Otherwise, the spot will be reassigned to one of the BBIers that didn't get into the draft but were active in the draft discussion thread.

Once again, I strongly encourage all GMs to utilize the BBI Mock Draft Spreadsheet . The spreadsheet contains the draft order (RD1-6) by team and GM with a fairly comprehensive list of both available and taken prospects based on the GBN Big Board (as well as several other prospects that did not make the GBN Big Board). I will try to keep the spreadsheet and thread updated as often as possible. I have saved the GBN Big Board (3/27) for your reference as well.
Let's do this!  
Lionhart28 : 4/1/2015 9:37 am : link
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Time to let the Picks fly gentlemen  
Torrag : 4/1/2015 9:40 am : link
Good Luck to all(except dallas/philly/washington)and keep the convo above board please.
I am going to get this started  
Jay on the Island : 4/1/2015 9:40 am : link
early
Honestly that was a tough choice  
Jay on the Island : 4/1/2015 9:43 am : link
I really wanted to draft Leonard Williams but the Bucs already have McCoy who they are paying a lot of money too. Amari Cooper was also considered but as we all know receiver is not as big of a need as QB and I think Lovie Smith can keep Winston focused on football.
Jay  
Torrag : 4/1/2015 9:44 am : link
Do you believe Winston is a true franchise QB? Or is it a case of best QB in this draft coupled with the need? How concerned are you with his maturity as the leader of your franchise?
And so it begins!!  
MadPlaid : 4/1/2015 9:47 am : link
Good luck everyone. Also, suck iiit!!
Torrag  
Jay on the Island : 4/1/2015 9:56 am : link
I think he has potential to be a franchise QB. I made my decision based more on what I think Tampa would do rather than solely basing it on what I would do with the first overall pick.
I am concerned with his maturity  
Jay on the Island : 4/1/2015 9:57 am : link
but I have confidence in Lovie Smith's ability to keep this kid focused and motivated.
Man I'd have a tough time making him my  
Lionhart28 : 4/1/2015 9:57 am : link
franchise QB. I sort of think they have to, I think he has the skills but man is he a moron.
Jay do you think Winston's Florida profile...  
Torrag : 4/1/2015 9:59 am : link
...and his ability to sell tickets is having an impact on Tampa's evaluation in RL time?
RE: Man I'd have a tough time making him my  
Mike in NY : 4/1/2015 9:59 am : link
In comment 12212748 Lionhart28 said:
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franchise QB. I sort of think they have to, I think he has the skills but man is he a moron.


Watching him with guys like Gruden he clearly knows the game and comes from a pro style scheme, but will he be the next Cam Newtwon in the sense that he could keep the distractions far enough away to take that next step or will he be the next Jeff George? I think Ben Roethlisberger is a good comp if he can get his act together
RE: Jay do you think Winston's Florida profile...  
Jay on the Island : 4/1/2015 10:03 am : link
In comment 12212752 Torrag said:
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...and his ability to sell tickets is having an impact on Tampa's evaluation in RL time?


I think it has a minor impact on the decision but I think the fact that they have little at QB makes it an easier decision.
Mike  
Lionhart28 : 4/1/2015 10:08 am : link
I like that comp, I don't think he quite has Roethlisbergers arm strength or movement skills but I'd say he's about the closest current comp.

On an aside, if the god damned Browns had taken Derek Carr like I did last year they wouldn't still need a freaking QB!!! Also, Jeremy Hill and Allen Robinson would look nice in this offense.
Good pick Jay  
sjnyfan : 4/1/2015 10:26 am : link
I think when it comes to character flags there are immature kids and bad kids. I think Winston is immature and is quickly learning how to act like a man. Manziel was a bad kid and it didn't take long to show.

Add to the fact that Lovie gets the chance at a franchise QB which he never had before with established weapons on offense. Staying in Florida will help sell tix as well.

Last but not least is his leadership and football intelligence. Despite all of the nonsense that team still followed his lead and did so with only one loss. His FBI's reportedly is off the chart. During baseball season he brought his football playbook on road trips. He knew that playbook inside and out and considering it's a pro style offense that's a huge leg up. His knowledge of the game has been compared to Manning and Luck. That's incredibly high praise.
I'd have done the same  
mrvax : 4/1/2015 10:30 am : link
Bucs have to roll the dice and see if Winston can get his personal life squared away. If so, they probably have a very good franchise QB. I suppose TB had initial meetings with Winston prior to making this decision.

Matt, thanks for doing this again.
We got stickied...  
Matt G : 4/1/2015 10:34 am : link
Very nice
Matt,  
Lionhart28 : 4/1/2015 10:39 am : link
that's what she said
RE: We got stickied...  
MadPlaid : 4/1/2015 10:45 am : link
In comment 12212870 Matt G said:
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Very nice

Wow, this is first.


Also, what she said.
Booooo!!!!!!!!!!!!  
Semipro Lineman : 4/1/2015 10:47 am : link
Booooo!!!!!!!!!!!

Wait, the Jets aren't on the clock yet. Oh, my bad
I took Mariota because I believe that either Tennessee will  
yatqb : 4/1/2015 11:02 am : link
take him, or they will trade out of the slot for someone who will take MM.
Makes sense Yat  
Torrag : 4/1/2015 11:06 am : link
Were you tempted to get your name on the dotted line with Leonard Williams?
I think Mariota is the right pick  
English Alaister : 4/1/2015 11:13 am : link
It is so much easier to take a QB high than it was under the new CBA and he has such great intangibles. I think it will take him a while to reach his potential and he might never be an elite stats guy but I see him a lot like I see Eli. A steady, hard-working presence setting the right tone for the organisation with the talent to make everyone around him better. Obviously different types of QB on the field but similar in terms of what they can do for a franchise off the field.
I think it comes down to how exceptional you consider Williams.  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/1/2015 11:19 am : link
If you have Leonard Williams graded as the next Reggie White, and you don't love Mariota, you take Williams and live with Muttonburger at QB for now. Otherwise, I think EA and yat are right: you have to take a shot with a potential franchise QB (or trade the pick to somebody who will).
would not surprise  
SirYesSir : 4/1/2015 11:28 am : link
me to see the titans take mariotta, but damn they better be sure about him. to take another failed qb high after locker would be disastrous for the franchise.

I don't think I'd have the balls to make that move if I were them. on the other hand, the draft is really the only cost-efficient way to add a talented qb. the free market will kill your cap along with other compensations. it's a tough business.
Good picks  
Optimus-NY : 4/1/2015 11:43 am : link
I pick for the Fish at 14. We're up to pick #3, so I'm gonna make a 12 player board up now, and then e-mail it to Matt G. if I'm not around to make my pick in person. I'll be flying from Abu Dhabi to NY on Thursday April 2nd 6:20 pm NY time. I'll try my best to hang around and make my pick in person though. You all have my word.
Well the Giants just gained another fan!!!!!  
TheCatch : 4/1/2015 11:50 am : link
My wife is a diehard football fan , she grew up in tampa. She is so discusted with Winstons behavior , she said she will come on board to my team . She already watches all the Giants games with me.

Down here in tampa , a lot of this going on . Some people love him and some people are outraged that he is even getting a shot in the NFL.
RE: Makes sense Yat  
yatqb : 4/1/2015 11:51 am : link
In comment 12212986 Torrag said:
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Were you tempted to get your name on the dotted line with Leonard Williams?


Absolutely. He's the best player in the draft, but QBs go very high, and tons of teams are angling to show interest in MM, imo to encourage teams to trade up with them for him...so why not Tennessee.
TheCatch  
Old Dirty Beckham : 4/1/2015 12:01 pm : link
Jameis is just a kid. People who think he doesn't deserve a shot to play in the NFL are either racist or stupid.
I don't know of anyone..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/1/2015 12:04 pm : link
who think Winston doesn't deserve a shot in the NFL.

But there are a lot of people who think he will shit away that opportunity.

not sure how that makes them racist or idiots seeing that a number of players with Winston's checkered past ended up washing out due to their own lack of control.
RE: TheCatch  
Jay in Saratoga : 4/1/2015 12:04 pm : link
In comment 12213145 Old Dirty Beckham said:
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Jameis is just a kid. People who think he doesn't deserve a shot to play in the NFL are either racist or stupid.


Rape allegations don't really fall under the classification of being 'just a kid'.
Kevin's got to be pleased  
Andy in Halifax : 4/1/2015 12:09 pm : link
Many people's best player in the draft (sure, less important position) falls to 3.
Jay  
Old Dirty Beckham : 4/1/2015 12:13 pm : link
Key word is "allegations"
RIght, and if you believe the allegations  
Jay in Saratoga : 4/1/2015 12:15 pm : link
you are neither stupid or racist to not want him on your favorite team.
RE: TheCatch  
TheCatch : 4/1/2015 12:16 pm : link
In comment 12213145 Old Dirty Beckham said:
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Jameis is just a kid. People who think he doesn't deserve a shot to play in the NFL are either racist or stupid.


ask yourself how you would feel if the Giants picked Winston ? Do you want his baggage ?

Playing in the NFL is a privilege . It should be treated as such. Too many teams sacrificing morals for wins......but that's just my opinion. Has nothing to do with race.
Just a heads up  
Jay in Saratoga : 4/1/2015 12:37 pm : link
I'll be off work tomorrow and away from a computer for most of this day as the draft officially starts. I've emailed Matt a ranked list to pick from and asked that he post my pick immediately when I go on the clock, I'll come onto this thread when I have the chance to discuss my selection.
I'm here  
Kevin in CT : 4/1/2015 12:51 pm : link
I'll be making my pick in about 10 minutes.
RE: I'm here  
Anakim : 4/1/2015 1:36 pm : link
In comment 12213260 Kevin in CT said:
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I'll be making my pick in about 10 minutes.


We all know you're picking Leonard Williams


(I'm gonna do this until Leonard Williams falls to #7...Ok, I won't)
No real surprises in the Top 3  
Mike in NY : 4/1/2015 1:47 pm : link
Now is where it will start getting interesting
The Jaguars need to bolster their defensive line  
Kevin in CT : 4/1/2015 1:55 pm : link
And with Leonard Williams they are able to do this. This pick is a no brainier for the Jaguars who desperately need help with their pass and rush defense. The Jaguars are excited to see Winston and Marriota go 1-2.
I have OAK's pick  
Matt G : 4/1/2015 2:03 pm : link
Just emailed him to confirm...
Pick is in...  
Amtoft : 4/1/2015 2:20 pm : link
Raiders have a lot of needs but DE may be the biggest one.
Amtoft  
MadPlaid : 4/1/2015 2:26 pm : link
interesting pick. I was half expecting you to go WR, but Fowler makes a lot of sense. I think this helps to mix up expectations for our mock draft.


By the way, have we decided not to post pics of our selections this year?
Fowler  
English Alaister : 4/1/2015 2:27 pm : link
Is an interesting one. Is he the stud who sec defenders say is a nightmare to block or is he not an exceptional athlete who failed to wow at the combine.
I had  
Amtoft : 4/1/2015 2:30 pm : link
Amari Cooper rated as a slightly better player behind Leonard Williams, but Fowler is the best 4-3 DE in this draft by a mile imo. If Williams and Fowler were gone I was going Cooper easy. My thinking now is while I can get a couple WRs later there is barely any talent at 4-3 DE.
RE: Fowler  
Amtoft : 4/1/2015 2:32 pm : link
In comment 12213475 English Alaister said:
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Is an interesting one. Is he the stud who sec defenders say is a nightmare to block or is he not an exceptional athlete who failed to wow at the combine.


Fowler played all over. They asked a lot of him including dropping weight to play some LB... I think set in one spot of 4-3 DE and he will be a stud! Very excited about this pick but Cooper was right there for me. I would have loved any of Williams, Cooper, or Fowler. My nightmare would have been if they did like last year and bypassed all the QBs before the Raiders pick.
Sir-Yes-Sir vs SirYesSir?  
Matt G : 4/1/2015 2:33 pm : link
Just noticing a slight variation to the handles... Anyone have any insight if he's posting under a new handle? I just emailed "Sir-Yes-Sir" anyway...
Don't know, but his handle could have changed  
MadPlaid : 4/1/2015 2:36 pm : link
due to BBI's password shenanigans.
Fowler.....Interesting Pick and a good one......  
GiantBlue : 4/1/2015 2:39 pm : link
Good chance...if Reese is thinking WR....that Cooper and/or White drops to 9 now with Oakland going defense. Interesting to see how this draft develops!
Thinking  
OC2.0 : 4/1/2015 2:43 pm : link
There really was no realistic alternative pick with Winston. The kid's just a natural fit for TB. Don't think off field concerns will be a problem once he is in with grown men & puts his big boy pants on.
S-Y-S  
Matt G : 4/1/2015 3:30 pm : link
Should be posting his pick in a bit...
Redskins pick is in  
SirYesSir : 4/1/2015 3:46 pm : link
Beasley will serve as a replacement for Orakpo, and add a quicker physical presence than their current starters of Kerrigan and Murphy provide.

Should be difference maker for the defense eventually, although even though he's a high pick will take a little while to make a dramatic impact. He must get used to playing with some added weight, and become more disciplined versus the run. Once he's ready, could be a Von Miller type presence.

Considered a few other players, but added need + upside and Beasley came out on top
Good pick, Sir.  
yatqb : 4/1/2015 3:47 pm : link
Interesting, as he's certainly the high AA guy they like, but I thought they'd go WR here.
considered wr  
SirYesSir : 4/1/2015 3:52 pm : link
but they're already pretty good with garcon and jackson, plus jackson as a mentor worries me. neither of those reasons should mean we couldn't draft cooper or white, but beasley was sitting there without those questions at a position of need so...
Do the Redskins have the luxury...  
Reb8thVA : 4/1/2015 3:56 pm : link
to take a WR at #5? They have Garcon, Jackson, and Roberts but can't figure out who is going to throw to them. They also have an anemic pass rush and a poor secondary. I think Beasley is the right pick.
If I were in SYS's spot  
Mike in NY : 4/1/2015 4:01 pm : link
I take Beasley as well
Good year to be a team with a high pick and a 3-4 defense imo  
Andy in Halifax : 4/1/2015 4:06 pm : link
I like a lot of these passrushers... in a 3-4. Bud Dupree still there and has the potential to be a monster. Gregory too.

Jets still running a 3-4? Seems like a great scenario for them imo?
Forgot Ray. He's fantastic too.  
Andy in Halifax : 4/1/2015 4:08 pm : link
Board looks good for NYJ, Chi & Atl if they want a passrusher. Maybe NYG too, if one falls.
Gahhhhh good pick SYS  
NoGainDayne : 4/1/2015 4:30 pm : link
I wanted Beasley for the Falcons. He's #2 on my board after LW.

Not sold on either of the QBs (although either could be great)

I have a hard time not seeing Beasley sacking the QB in the NFL and Giants fans know better than anyone else what a good pass rush does.
.  
Eli 2 Nicks : 4/1/2015 4:32 pm : link
Marshall - Decker - Cooper
dont think so  
Eli 2 Nicks : 4/1/2015 4:32 pm : link
Marshall - Decker - Cooper
Cooper's  
Jon in NYC : 4/1/2015 4:32 pm : link
my favorite player in the draft. Easy pick for me.
Good pick for the Jets  
Jay on the Island : 4/1/2015 4:33 pm : link
It gives their offense the potential #1 receiver it desperately needs and it will take a lot of pressure off of Decker because he has proven that he isn't a #1 receiver but he is a damn good #2.
Im also not letting Marshall or Decker  
Jon in NYC : 4/1/2015 4:34 pm : link
dictate any draft choices I'm making
how is  
Eli 2 Nicks : 4/1/2015 4:34 pm : link
Brandon Marshall not a #1 receiver?
RE: how is  
giants#1 : 4/1/2015 4:41 pm : link
In comment 12213698 Eli 2 Nicks said:
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Brandon Marshall not a #1 receiver?


Because we're talking about 2015 and beyond, not 2012. Marshall can still play, but how many top years does he really have left? He'll be 31 and is coming off the worst season of his career. I wouldn't bet on him being a #1 WR for the next 2 years, let alone 3-4.
Gah!  
Andy in Halifax : 4/1/2015 4:59 pm : link
Wanted Cooper. Didn't think the Jets would resist those passrushers!
I can't see a Jets team with no legit QB  
YAJ2112 : 4/1/2015 5:01 pm : link
taking a WR in that spot with Marshall/Decker already in the fold.
RE: how is  
Amtoft : 4/1/2015 5:19 pm : link
In comment 12213698 Eli 2 Nicks said:
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Brandon Marshall not a #1 receiver?


Cooper is the 2nd best player in the draft at pick 6. 2 injure prone WRs that aren't so young shouldn't stop from drafting a stud WR. Cooper will help a bad QB and make him better. Not sure why the out rage.
yaj  
Old Dirty Beckham : 4/1/2015 5:19 pm : link
what does their lack of a qb have to do with taking a WR?
Yeah why would the fact that they lack a franchise QB  
Jay on the Island : 4/1/2015 5:25 pm : link
dictate whether they take Cooper or not. Having weapons can make a bad QB look decent. It is also a great weapon to have when they do get their QB which may happen in next years first round. It would take a lot of pressure off a young QB to come in and have Cooper, Marshall, and Decker.
jets GM says screw everyone and takes the clear BPA  
Torrag : 4/1/2015 5:29 pm : link
Love the pick and as a Giants fan I hate the pick. Good job.
I'm here  
Anakim : 4/1/2015 5:30 pm : link
I'll be making the pick in 5 minutes
Good pick Chicago  
Jay on the Island : 4/1/2015 5:34 pm : link
White and Jeffrey will form a great duo for years. Now if they could just fix Cutler.
good pick  
SirYesSir : 4/1/2015 6:06 pm : link
i prefer cooper for the Giants, but White would fit in well there.

Let's see if Atlanta still goes for pass rush, with Gregory, Dupree, and Ray still on the board...
Wow  
est1986 : 4/1/2015 6:22 pm : link
I sure as hell hope this is not the way the board looks come draft night, nearly worse case scenario. Had to figure we'd have or choice of Shelton, Scherff, or Collins. If this was how it really played out I would want us to get Gregory or trade down.
Thought long and hard about this one  
NoGainDayne : 4/1/2015 6:28 pm : link
Gregory, Shelton and Gurley were all close on my board. In the end I think decided on IMO the top lineman in the draft help get their high octane offense back on track.

Definitely need help on the defensive side and Shelton's potential is hard to overlook but I wish he produced more consistently over his career. His quickness impressive but his weight is a little concerning. Gurley I think a lot of people will regret passing up but RBs are just not viewed as top 10 values anymore. In the end end I went with the guy that I think is the safest pick in the draft.
Interesting how the draft has played out so far  
Eric on Li : 4/1/2015 6:33 pm : link
In some ways this is the worst case for the Giants because the safer picks are gone, but on the other hand Gregory could be the best pass rusher of them all. La'el Collins, Flowers, Ray, Dupree, interesting possibilities as well. If I were picking I think I'd go Gregory.
Andy in Halifax  
Emil : 4/1/2015 6:44 pm : link
Is up, Scherrf was just taken. Could be Collins, maybe Flowers, or perhaps Bud Dupree. In this situation, your best bet might be trading down. Or selecting the CB from Michigan State, Trae Waynes
first real surprise  
Mike in NY : 4/1/2015 6:55 pm : link
Thought Atlanta would take a pass rusher
Considering they dumped Blalock, I don't know if Scherff is a fit for  
Eric on Li : 4/1/2015 7:05 pm : link
Shanahan. I suspect they'd have gone with Gregory, Ray or Shelton there and taken more of a zone concept player later on.
What he said  
Eli 2 Nicks : 4/1/2015 7:23 pm : link
.
If this was real  
Eli 2 Nicks : 4/1/2015 7:27 pm : link
I would be on the edge of my seat hoping for trae waynes
Scherff can play in any scheme  
Torrag : 4/1/2015 7:29 pm : link
that said imo Atlanta would have gone pass rusher there but you certainly can't complain they have a need at OG too.

The way the top 8 unfolded is essentially the worst case for the Giants imo...and we'll still get a very good player when all is said and done.
Torrag - I'm not saying Scherff couldn't play in any scheme  
Eric on Li : 4/1/2015 7:39 pm : link
but it would seem a guy most are projecting as a power guard might not be highest rated on their board. Obviously since he can play LT he'd also be a very athletic guard or possibly RT, so maybe. Like I said, I think they'd probably go with 1 of the defensive players in this scenario since Quinn is a defensive coach and that's their big weakness.
Eric  
Torrag : 4/1/2015 7:43 pm : link
I just posted I think they would go edge rusher if it broke that way. But they have a hole at OG and Scherff is the #1 OL on most boards and can play anywhere on the line.
I can definitely see  
SirYesSir : 4/1/2015 8:04 pm : link
the giants liking Dupree here...one could make comparisons to JPP, and he's got more size and weight than Gregory or Ray which I think we've always valued.

I doubt he'll go now in our draft, but I could see it him getting chosen if it fell this way and Schreff and the WR's were off the board
Collins and Ray are on a higher tier than Dupree for me  
Torrag : 4/1/2015 8:06 pm : link
Andy got put in the toughest scenario to make this pick I don't envy him...
The two highest players remaining for me  
Ira : 4/1/2015 8:08 pm : link
are Kevin White and La'el Collins. Since Collins is the greater need, I'd go that way.
Ira  
Torrag : 4/1/2015 8:10 pm : link
White is long gone...
Trade back with Saints  
est1986 : 4/1/2015 8:39 pm : link
They could use Ray or Gregory and we could go a lot of directions at 13.
No trades in this draft  
Torrag : 4/1/2015 8:41 pm : link
fyi
Wow- the draft would suck if  
mrvax : 4/1/2015 8:47 pm : link
it went like this. Shit...who to pick? I'm not going Oline no matter what with this pick. I don't care if they have to play Diehl again. I'd go with Parker. Big guy, real deep threat.
I think Shelton is the top guy left here  
Jay in Saratoga : 4/1/2015 8:56 pm : link
imagine the combo with Hankins. It would give coughlin something like he had with Henderson/Stroud. That matchup problem in the middle would create all kinds of opportunities for our ends and backers.

That being said, I could argue with Collins here. Would be happy for the Giants to get either of these two.
Last post should have read  
Jay in Saratoga : 4/1/2015 9:01 pm : link
i couldn't argue with Collins here.
back to the Cooper pick  
YAJ2112 : 4/1/2015 9:21 pm : link
No outrage from me, and I don't have a problem with the pick in our mock. I was just saying that I don't think the Jets will go WR if the draft fell this way in real life.

With no franchise QB in place or available at this pick, the Jets are going to build their team around the running game and the defense. They already have 2 quality WRs in the building, they would be better served to use their top picks to bolster their front 7 with a pass rusher or grab an OL to help their run game. Not to mention that Marrone was against the move to get Watkins last year with a similarly built team, not sure why he'd want to go WR here.
RE: Torrag - I'm not saying Scherff couldn't play in any scheme  
NoGainDayne : 4/1/2015 9:25 pm : link
In comment 12213927 Eric on Li said:
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but it would seem a guy most are projecting as a power guard might not be highest rated on their board. Obviously since he can play LT he'd also be a very athletic guard or possibly RT, so maybe. Like I said, I think they'd probably go with 1 of the defensive players in this scenario since Quinn is a defensive coach and that's their big weakness.


Scherff posted one of the best 3 cones for OL ever, yes he is powerful but he is a great fit for a zone scheme.

I personally do not like Ray or Dupree really. All of Ray's highlights he seems to get sacks mostly on speed, I don't really see any great moves from him. Dupree is harder because he did move around a lot but I sort of get athlete not football player when I look at him on film. Gregory I do like but I think he is more boom or bust where he weighed in and Scherff I see as a fairly safe bet to be a pro bowl player.
I don't disagree with the pick at all  
Eric on Li : 4/1/2015 9:42 pm : link
I like Scherff a lot and agree he's the safest pick in the draft. Just speculating Atlanta to go defense (but I agree I wouldn't pick any of the players on the board over Scherff - Gregory is the only one I'd consider but would likely end up choosing Scherff since he's so safe).
Actually I think Cooper might be safer than Scherff  
Eric on Li : 4/1/2015 9:43 pm : link
but that's besides the point.
I'd go Collins or White at 9 if I'm the NYG based on how things have  
Optimus-NY : 4/1/2015 9:57 pm : link
played out thus far.

P.S. I've got a 6 player board ready for the Dolphins' pick at #14.
Pretty much worst case scenario for first 8 picks  
Andy in Halifax : 4/1/2015 10:05 pm : link
But I've liked Collins since the fall and have talked about him often so I'm pretty happy to get him. Reeeeeeaaaaally wanted Cooper but this is good too.

My BBI Mock draft OL is now:
Solder-Iupati-Frederick-Unger-Collins

Hire me Reese. Just do it.

This allows us to move Pugh inside if that works, or Collins plays LG for a year. Either way, a good addition to the team.
Nice pick Andy  
Eric on Li : 4/1/2015 10:09 pm : link
Adding Collins to mix gives them the best OL they've had since 2010. Very solid way to start things off.
Andy: The pick is fine...  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/1/2015 10:37 pm : link
...but if you started a trend by appending that sh!tty, slow-loading video, I'm going to petition Eric to ban you. For once the Picks-Only thread was, you know, only picks.
I agree with the pick Andy  
Optimus-NY : 4/1/2015 10:39 pm : link
I think the Giants are defo goin OL in either round 1 or 2. Collins seems like their type, the more I think about it.
Really wanted one of the 2 OL who went before me  
BigBlue TT : 4/1/2015 10:43 pm : link
But the Rams need a playmaker just as bad. FWIW, I think Parker will be the NYG pick in a few weeks.
Here are the draft picks so far in order:  
Optimus-NY : 4/2/2015 12:14 am : link
1. Tampa Bay (Jay on the Island) - QB, Jameis Winston, Florida State
2. Tennessee (yatqb) - QB, Marcus Mariota, Oregon
3. Jacksonville (Kevin in CT) - DE/DT, Leonard Williams, USC
4. Oakland (Amtoft) - DE, Dante Fowler, Jr., Florida
5. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir) - OLB, Vic Beasley, Clemson
6. NY Jets (Jon in NYC) - WR, Amari Cooper, Alabama
7. Chicago (Anakim) - WR, Kevin White, West Virginia
8. Atlanta (NoGainDayne) - OG/OT, Brandon Scherff, Iowa
9. NY Giants (Andy in Halifax) - OT, La'El Collins, LSU
10. St. Louis (BigBlueTT) - WR, DeVante Parker, Louisville
11. Minnesota (Jay in Saratoga) - On the clock
12. Cleveland (Lionhart28)
13. New Orleans (Saos1n)
14. Miami (Optimus-NY)
Pretty excited to get Shelton @ 11  
Jay in Saratoga : 4/2/2015 7:37 am : link
I had him as the 5th overall player on my board. Granted my board was slanted toward scheme fits and needs for Minnesota, so I devalued QBs and smaller edge rushers who would fit better in a 3-4 front.

While defensive tackle certainly is not a need with Joseph and Floyd on the roster, the Vikings were able to get a potentially dominant player at the position and transform the middle of the line into a strength that should create opportunities on the edges for DEs and LBs.
I tried to embed a youtube video  
Andy in Halifax : 4/2/2015 7:49 am : link
So consider yourself lucky Blogger!
Emails sent to both CLE & NO this am  
Matt G : 4/2/2015 8:30 am : link
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Not to say Collins isn't a good player  
SirYesSir : 4/2/2015 8:49 am : link
or won't be a successful player, but man it's hard for me to bite down and take a lineman with such a high pick...

getting a pick in the top ten should bring back uniquely talented players, game changers. Collins here would seem to me (maybe i'm shortsighted) a missed opportunity for a special player.
I was hoping that would happen  
Andy in Halifax : 4/2/2015 8:53 am : link
Just don't see who that was based on the first 8 picks. Too much risk with Dupree imo. One of Ray, Dupree or Gregory could be an absolute stud - I just don't know if it'll happen in a 4-3.

My ideal draft would have been Cooper in 1 then come back at OL at 40. White would have been given lots of thought too. Bith were taken. Ended up taking BPA which happened to fit a need.
I'm tied up in mtg most of today...  
Matt G : 4/2/2015 8:58 am : link
Hope everyone can keep the ball rolling...
3 more picks till the Fish select 14th  
Optimus-NY : 4/2/2015 9:12 am : link
Matt - I've got a 3-man board ready if I don't get to pick in the next few hours. I'll e-mail it to you should it com to that, just as we discussed. I'm home now, and not leaving for the airport for another 5 and a half hours or so.
Cleveland's pick is in  
Lionhart28 : 4/2/2015 9:15 am : link
I was hoping Parker or Shelton to drop here but still thrilled to add a dynamic pass rusher to challenge the disappointing Barkevious Mingo in Ray.
RE: Cleveland's pick is in  
Mike in NY : 4/2/2015 9:38 am : link
In comment 12214350 Lionhart28 said:
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I was hoping Parker or Shelton to drop here but still thrilled to add a dynamic pass rusher to challenge the disappointing Barkevious Mingo in Ray.


Good pick for the Browns. I am sure that San Francisco was hoping that Ray would fall to 15 as they lost a lot of LB this offseason
Hey, what the heck happened?  
section125 : 4/2/2015 9:43 am : link
I got my beers chilled and the popcorn bowl filled only to find that the draft started one day early.

Roger would never allow this to happen.
Mike  
Lionhart28 : 4/2/2015 10:29 am : link
Honestly, I might like Gregory as an OLB better with his length and array of pass rush moves but with Josh Gordon and Manziel, we can't take a chance on a character risk that high.
Flowers was my guy for the Fish  
Optimus-NY : 4/2/2015 10:34 am : link
He makes a lot of sense for them at 14. Need and value come together rather nicely.
I suspect people may gripe about that pick  
Andy in Halifax : 4/2/2015 10:37 am : link
But I really like it. I think he can be a killer RT.
ANdy  
Old Dirty Beckham : 4/2/2015 10:50 am : link
Did you consider Davonte Parker? I wouldn't but curious if you did.
Wow surprise pick for Miami  
Jay on the Island : 4/2/2015 10:51 am : link
I like Flowers a lot but they do have Albert at LT and last years 1st rounder James at RT.
RE: I suspect people may gripe about that pick  
Optimus-NY : 4/2/2015 10:55 am : link
In comment 12214477 Andy in Halifax said:
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But I really like it. I think he can be a killer RT.


Let 'em. This guy reminds me of Erik Williams from the 90s Cowboys. Nasty SOB.

Tweet comparing Erik Williams (ROT) from the 90s Cowboys' OL to Flowers
RE: Wow surprise pick for Miami  
Optimus-NY : 4/2/2015 10:56 am : link
In comment 12214518 Jay on the Island said:
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I like Flowers a lot but they do have Albert at LT and last years 1st rounder James at RT.


Someone's goin' to Guard in the interim. Power Foosball.
RE: RE: Wow surprise pick for Miami  
Jay on the Island : 4/2/2015 10:58 am : link
In comment 12214527 Optimus-NY said:
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In comment 12214518 Jay on the Island said:


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I like Flowers a lot but they do have Albert at LT and last years 1st rounder James at RT.



Someone's goin' to Guard in the interim. Power Foosball.


Makes sense their line has struggled for years and now it would be a major strength with Flowers playing guard for a year or two. He could then shift over to RT with James moving over to the left side when Albert begins to break down or if his play no longer warrants that big contract.
So how good is Trae Waynes?  
SirYesSir : 4/2/2015 10:58 am : link
It would be pretty damn odd to see a draft reach picks around 14-15 without a cb come off the board.

is is such a weak class that this is right? or are some of the bbi-drafters missing the boat on this kid?
Jay - exactly  
Optimus-NY : 4/2/2015 10:59 am : link
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San Fran with a steal at this point in the 1st!  
Jay in Saratoga : 4/2/2015 11:13 am : link
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49ers were going to go DLine here  
Pete from Woodstock : 4/2/2015 11:17 am : link
but were VERY surprised the #1 rated CB was available at 15... it makes sense since the Niners have lost both starting cornerbacks, Perrish Cox and Chris Culliver. With the draft being deep in DL prospects we are not worried about getting quality players in the next rounds.
Nice pick, Pete  
MadPlaid : 4/2/2015 11:21 am : link
the '9ers are going to need a lot of help on that D. Funny how the mighty have fallen. Just last year that unit was very good. Amazing how much has been lost due to free agency and retirements.
HOU was going Waynes  
Modus Operandi : 4/2/2015 11:30 am : link
until Pete snagged him. But I think Collins has a higher ceiling.
MadPlaid  
Pete from Woodstock : 4/2/2015 11:34 am : link
Their D is decimated!! Losing both CB's, Willis and Borland retiring and probably Justin Smith we NEED to restock with quality players! (trading down would probably be an option as well to get more picks! But not with Trae Waynes there!
Pete  
MadPlaid : 4/2/2015 11:42 am : link
need to start somewhere, and Waynes is a very nice first step.
Modus  
MadPlaid : 4/2/2015 11:44 am : link
wishing for the good old days. Dated yourself with that Oilers Freudian slip.
Of the 16 picks  
Mike in NY : 4/2/2015 11:47 am : link
6 were the same position as the one before it. Talk about not wanting to lose out in a run at a position
Matt  
MadPlaid : 4/2/2015 11:50 am : link
at least you got the team's name right. Ha
9 picks before mine at 26  
Mike in NY : 4/2/2015 12:04 pm : link
And only 3-4 guys left in the upper rows of my board before I get to guys that do not have surefire Round 1 grades
I'd be absolutely shocked  
Big Rick in FL : 4/2/2015 12:13 pm : link
If the Dolphins took Ereck Flowers. They just drafted Ja'Wuan James in the 1st last year and gave Brandon Albert an insane amount of money.
RE: Of the 16 picks  
Modus Operandi : 4/2/2015 12:47 pm : link
In comment 12214659 Mike in NY said:
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6 were the same position as the one before it. Talk about not wanting to lose out in a run at a position


It isn't that that I didn't want to lose out on a run. I give Waynes a slight edge over Collins, but I love Collins size/movement. Colossal potential.

With Houston needing help in the back 7 and the WRS and edge rushers all off the board, the two CBs were the only way to go there.

The other guy considered at 16 was Armstead, but had him ranked mu check lower.
Plus...  
Modus Operandi : 4/2/2015 12:49 pm : link
Houston wouldn't need to thrust Collins I my own a starting role. He can play behind Joseph for a year while he refines his technique.
I'm heading into a 1pm mtg...  
Matt G : 4/2/2015 12:53 pm : link
I've emailed SD to remind about his pick... If time expires, please select BPA (Andrus Peat) and move to KC... English Alastair asked me to give him an hour and then i will choose from his board...
Ugh!  
MadPlaid : 4/2/2015 1:45 pm : link
Our first missed pick. I made the selection pursuant to Matt's instructions.
It's a good pick for them O-line is clearly their top need  
Torrag : 4/2/2015 1:47 pm : link
Peat has big upside I wouldn't be surprised if it would have been uconns pick anyway.
RE: Ugh!  
yatqb : 4/2/2015 2:00 pm : link
In comment 12214894 MadPlaid said:
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Our first missed pick. I made the selection pursuant to Matt's instructions.


Good job, MadPlaid!

The draft is moving right along.
yat  
MadPlaid : 4/2/2015 2:36 pm : link
I wish I didn't have to. It is always much better when the owner makes the selection themself. uconngiant hasn't been on BBI since March 20, so I don't know what his deal is. Or, why he agreed to come back this year if he doesn't have the time to checkin. Especially when he should know this is the day we were getting started. Can you tell I'm annoyed?
You never like to see auto picks especially this early  
NoGainDayne : 4/2/2015 3:18 pm : link
but in that case Peat is a great value there.

While not a huge position of need for the Browns  
Lionhart28 : 4/2/2015 3:42 pm : link
They can't pass on the best RB (in their eyes) to enter the league since Adrian Peterson. They already have 2 good young backs in Crowell and West but Coach Pettine is going to want to run the hell out of the football and can't pass on this type of talent. He's rated as a top 3 overall player on our board and we are ecstatic to get him with our second round pick.

CIP is up...
5 of first 18 picks on O-Line  
Rick in Dallas : 4/2/2015 3:45 pm : link
Is this a deep class of red chip OL. Humphries and Clemmings also possible first round picks.
RE: While not a huge position of need for the Browns  
Mike in NY : 4/2/2015 3:48 pm : link
In comment 12215020 Lionhart28 said:
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They can't pass on the best RB (in their eyes) to enter the league since Adrian Peterson. They already have 2 good young backs in Crowell and West but Coach Pettine is going to want to run the hell out of the football and can't pass on this type of talent. He's rated as a top 3 overall player on our board and we are ecstatic to get him with our second round pick.

CIP is up...


Nice pick. Going into the draft he was one of my top 2 for the Ravens at 26 based on who realistically could be there. Also, with 2 1st Round selections the Browns can gamble on Gurley's health
Thanks Mike  
Lionhart28 : 4/2/2015 3:53 pm : link
The Browns also have 2 good young runners already, so they don't have to rush him on the field... Plus, they aren't winning anything until they get a quarterback so they might as well stock talent elsewhere so they are ready to win when they do get one. Possibly drafting Derek Carr, Allen Robinson and Jeremy Hill last year like I did for them would have helped, but I digress...
Also, if you are looking to be based around a power run game...  
Lionhart28 : 4/2/2015 3:56 pm : link
This is awesome: "In 2014, churned out an amazing 61.9 percent of his rushing yardage after contact."
Eagles select Landon Collins...  
Chris in Philly : 4/2/2015 4:09 pm : link
Not quite the freak that you would expect Kelly to take, but there are two major weaknesses on this team - defensive backfield and wide receiver. Collins is a guy who can be a monster on some of the best special teams in the league and work his way into the starting back 7 very quickly. They need a lot of talent in both areas, and after blowing a first rounder last year, he's a safe pick. Still plenty of time to pick up some WR's later.
MadPlaid  
Matt G : 4/2/2015 4:09 pm : link
I hear you... Been a while since we missed a RD1 pick... I sent SD (uconngiant) email reminders for the sign up thread (which he replied to), prior to the RD1 pick and again after the missed pick... I'm going to ask one of the alternates to stand by to step in on his behalf heading into RD2 if we don't hear back...
Matt  
MadPlaid : 4/2/2015 4:12 pm : link
Thanks. I don't mean to be harsh, it just isn't that hard to checkin from time to time.
sorry guys scrambling to a brief mtg...  
Matt G : 4/2/2015 4:45 pm : link
back on at 5pm to make my pick
RE: sorry guys scrambling to a brief mtg...  
yatqb : 4/2/2015 4:48 pm : link
In comment 12215128 Matt G said:
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back on at 5pm to make my pick


Matt, thanks for all you are doing, including the email reminders. Fantastic and much appreciated!
The Steelers pick will be made in the morning  
GMen-in-SC : 4/2/2015 5:05 pm : link
At a graduation, then dinner and drinks.

Sorry for holding you all up.
RE: The Steelers pick will be made in the morning  
Mike in NY : 4/2/2015 5:08 pm : link
In comment 12215147 GMen-in-SC said:
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At a graduation, then dinner and drinks.

Sorry for holding you all up.


Matt G will pick soon so if you have 2 people lined up you can list them here and we will just fire the top guy when ready or he should actually be making it soon so probably within half an hour you will be up
Fuckin' Pittsburgh!  
yatqb : 4/2/2015 5:25 pm : link
jk!
Really sorry for the delay everyone  
Matt G : 4/2/2015 5:33 pm : link
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Thanks for picking from my board Matt  
English Alaister : 4/2/2015 6:05 pm : link
Was on a plane and the shitty EU still doesn't allow wifi.

Happy with Erving, that is how we thought it would play out. He should be able to come in and compete for a starting spot immediately, likely replacing Hudson at OC.
Took a bathroom break and was ecstatic to see Goldman still on the boa  
GMen-in-SC : 4/2/2015 6:48 pm : link
With McClendon and McCullers in place at nose tackle, the Steelers might seem to be set at the position and not spend their first-round pick on an interior defensive lineman. The reality is, however, the Steelers have struggled to find an answer at nose tackle since Casey Hampton retired.

Eddie Goldman is the answer and will be the disruptive force they need inside.
Dorial Green-Beckham to the Bengals is almost too perfect.  
81_Great_Dane : 4/2/2015 6:58 pm : link
Their kind of player, and their kind of player.
Goldman  
Mike in NY : 4/2/2015 7:03 pm : link
I think he can be like Ngata and play DE in 3-4
Just got home  
YAJ2112 : 4/2/2015 7:11 pm : link
I'll have a pick up shortly
Guys, I just had a look at the selection thread  
Ira : 4/2/2015 7:31 pm : link
and was impressed. bbi gm's have done very well so far.
Dang the Steelers!  
MadPlaid : 4/2/2015 7:59 pm : link
I was hoping Goldman would drop to the Packers.

Grumble grumble!!
2 guys remain on my list  
Mike in NY : 4/2/2015 8:04 pm : link
Hopefully they don't go in the next 2 picks
RE: 2 guys remain on my list  
Mike in NY : 4/2/2015 8:58 pm : link
In comment 12215337 Mike in NY said:
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Hopefully they don't go in the next 2 picks


1 down. Surprised that Dupree fell this far
tough call for me to make with  
DCPollaro : 4/2/2015 9:01 pm : link
Arizona's pick..was hoping Gurley fell originally and then all the OL went to. At that point I felt Dupree was right up there BPA wise
Thought you might have gone Gordon  
jlukes : 4/2/2015 9:50 pm : link
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thought about gordon  
DCPollaro : 4/2/2015 10:10 pm : link
But then I figured I can get a rb in another rd
If this were the real nfl draft  
est1986 : 4/2/2015 11:26 pm : link
Do you think the Giants could have picked up a extra second round pick if they traded back to grab Landon Collins. Without trades I would have totally drafted Gregory.
Looks like Arik Armstead may be sliding down in our mock draft  
Rick in Dallas : 4/3/2015 7:56 am : link
I have seen multiple draft experts rating Armstead in their top 15 players in this year's draft.
RE: Looks like Arik Armstead may be sliding down in our mock draft  
Mike in NY : 4/3/2015 8:05 am : link
In comment 12215787 Rick in Dallas said:
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I have seen multiple draft experts rating Armstead in their top 15 players in this year's draft.


Just wanted to see greater production in college. If FMiC can pick soon I am ready
I am ready as well  
jlukes : 4/3/2015 8:39 am : link
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Sorry - I checked last night before dinner..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/3/2015 8:43 am : link
and didn't think I'd pick until mid-AM.

Panthers would have liked to get Dorian Green-Beckham, but the off-field red flags probably make their pick of Jaelen strong a little safer.

Plus, I think Strong will be the most intriguing pick of the first round. He has great upside and potential
Crap  
Mike in NY : 4/3/2015 8:44 am : link
FMiC surprised me and took the last guy I was targeting for the Ravens. Now stuck with a choice between a guy clearly on a higher row but not perfect scheme fit although workable or the guy on a lower row that fits a smidge better. Both would fill need
Round 1  
Matt G : 4/3/2015 8:46 am : link
1. Tampa Bay (Jay on the Island) – *Jameis Winston, QB, Florida State
2. Tennessee (yatqb) - *Marcus Mariotta, QB, Oregon
3. Jacksonville (Kevin in CT) - *Leonard Williams, DT/DE, USC
4. Oakland (Amtoft) - *Dante Fowler Jr., DE/OLB, Florida
5. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir) - Vic Beasley, DE/OLB, Clemson
6. NY Jets (Jon in NYC) - *Amari Cooper, WR, Alabama
7. Chicago (Anakim) - Kevin White, WR, West Virginia
8. Atlanta (NoGainDayne) - Brandon Scherff, OT/OG, Iowa
9. NY Giants (Andy in Halifax) - La'El Collins, OT, LSU
10. St. Louis (BigBlueTT) - DeVante Parker, WR, Louisville
11. Minnesota (Jay in Saratoga) - Danny Shelton, NT, Washington
12. Cleveland (Lionhart28) - *Randy Gregory, DE/OLB, Nebraska
13. New Orleans (Saos1n) - *Shane Ray, DE/OLB, Missouri
14. Miami (Optimus-NY) - *Ereck Flowers, OT, Miami (Fla.)
15. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) - *Trae Waynes, CB, Michigan State
16. Houston (Modus Operandi) - *Jalen Collins, CB, LSU
17. San Diego (uconngiant) - *Andrus Peat, OT, Stanford Picked from generic list
18. Kansas City (English Alaister) - Cameron Erving,. OC/OT, Florida State
19. Cleveland (Lionhart28) (from Buf) - *Todd Gurley, RB, Georgia
20. Philadelphia (Chris in Philly) - *Landon Collins, SS, Alabama
21. Cincinnati (Matt G) - *Dorial Green-Beckham, WR, Oklahoma
22. Pittsburgh (Gmen-in-SC) - *Eddie Goldman, DT, Florida State
23. Detroit (YAJ2112) - *D.J. Humphries, OT, Florida
24. Arizona (DCPollaro) - Alvin Dupree, DE/OLB, Kentucky
25. Carolina (FatMan in Charlotte) - On the clock
26. Baltimore (Mike in NY)
27. Dallas (Rick in Dallas)
28. Denver (jlukes)
29. Indianapolis (GoTerps)
30. Green Bay (MadPlaid)
31. New Orleans (Saos1n) (from Sea)
32. New England (Torrag)
I guess it was unrealistic of me to think Strong would fall to #40...  
Andy in Halifax : 4/3/2015 9:17 am : link
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Pick is in for the Ravens  
Mike in NY : 4/3/2015 9:25 am : link
With Dupree and Strong going at 24 and 25 the real life Ravens would probably trade down, but that is not possible in this Mock Draft. Could not pass up Malcom Brown at this point as he was, by a decent margin, the highest graded player on my board. Haloti Ngata was shipped off to Detroit this offseason and the Ravens scouting staff led by Mike in NY believes Brown will be an ideal replacement. As an added bonus, unlike most 5T, Brown has the ability to play in a 4-3 scheme as well
Mike that's the best 1st round value so far imo  
Torrag : 4/3/2015 9:46 am : link
Nice pickup.

I was tempted by Brown for the Lions  
YAJ2112 : 4/3/2015 10:02 am : link
and I suspect they will probably take him if he's there at 23
Cowboys select Kevin Johnson,CB,Wake Forest  
Rick in Dallas : 4/3/2015 10:02 am : link
I would have selected Mel Gordon for the Cowboys but some how some way I believe Jerry jones will have Adrian Peterson as his starting RB when the season begins. I believe this is going to be a defense heavy draft for the cowboys and I keep hearing Kevin Johnson's name being mentioned as the pick by Cowboy insiders.
I'm unfortunately at a work conference until Monday.  
Jon in NYC : 4/3/2015 10:05 am : link
Matt, if you can email me when it's my pick I'll do my best to
get it in in a timely manner. Thanks!
Rick  
Torrag : 4/3/2015 10:06 am : link
Cowboys need a CB I like the pick. He has enough speed and excellent footwork.
Was torn between Maxx Williams and Clemmings  
jlukes : 4/3/2015 10:35 am : link
but opted for Clemmings.


oasts exciting tools and may ultimately wind up the best of the 2015 offensive tackle crop. Prototypical frame for the modern left tackle with broad shoulders, long arms (34 7/8"), a trim middle and thick thighs. Demonstrates fluidity, quickness and athleticism that are ideal for a next-level tackle. Uses his wide base to cut off edge rushers and adjust to multiple rushers coming his way, meeting them with stone hands and violently disposing of bodies. Utilizes long arms and a rapid, fluid kick-slide to stall and mirror opponents on the edge, and considering his lack of experience on the O-line, is surprisingly consistent with his technique - particularly his footwork. Shows good natural flexibility in his lower half to bend on contact, and as a run blocker can fire through to the second level where he has the ability to square up and target effectively in space. The athleticism and ability to pick things up quickly are both apparent.

Clemmings is rough around the edges but boasts undeniable upside. With a similar committment towards improvement as Vollmer has shown with the Patriots, Clemmings could emerge as a standout right tackle in the NFL or perhaps even flip to the all-important left tackle position after acclimating to the NFL's speed
with the Broncos need at RT this is a really smart pick  
Torrag : 4/3/2015 10:37 am : link
Clemmings needs to start out on the right side to continue his development. In two years you could have an All Pro level LT on your hands.
Yup, he was the highest player left on my board  
jlukes : 4/3/2015 10:41 am : link
and was at a position of need as well. TE is a need, buy Maxx was about the 7th best player left on my board and just couldn't justify taking him over Clemmings.
Sorry about the screwup there  
Go Terps : 4/3/2015 11:15 am : link
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RE: Sorry about the screwup there  
Mike in NY : 4/3/2015 11:20 am : link
In comment 12216210 Go Terps said:
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It was between Brown and Odighizuwa for my pick. Owa might have been a slightly better scheme fit in the 3-4, but Brown was a lot higher ranked
Damn  
Jay on the Island : 4/3/2015 11:27 am : link
I really wanted Odi for Tampa with the first pick of round 2. They are desperate for a DE and he would have been a great pick.
Anyone interested in taking over as San Diego GM...  
Matt G : 4/3/2015 11:43 am : link
Please email me ASAP... Still no word from uconn so I'm likely going to ask someone to step in on his behalf at #48 overall...

BlueManFu, BigBlueDownTheShore, odunde and uncledave will have priority.
GMen in SC  
Lionhart28 : 4/3/2015 12:21 pm : link
I love the Goldman pick, I was between him and Gurley. Highly underrated prospect IMO. If he can stay healthy I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if he's better than Shelton.
All my second round favs being taken!  
Andy in Halifax : 4/3/2015 12:24 pm : link
Odi is a great pickup imo.
I'm here  
MadPlaid : 4/3/2015 12:27 pm : link
I'll have my pick in shortly
Looking at who is left on the board  
Lionhart28 : 4/3/2015 12:40 pm : link
The giants should be able to add 2 day one starters in the first two rounds this year. Some really excellent football players will be on the board at #40.
This was tough  
MadPlaid : 4/3/2015 12:57 pm : link
After Goldman was off the board, I was thinking I'd pick up the BPA at CB considering that is a big need for the Pack. I didn't think Armstead would be there at pick 30. It was a toss up between him and Marcus Peters of Washington. Ultimately, it came down to the fact that Armstead is really good against the run, and Green Bay really has to improve that part of their game. Peters off the field issues were just too great to overlook.
good pick by Mad, there..  
Modus Operandi : 4/3/2015 1:19 pm : link
I think Armstead is going to be fantastic as a 3-4 DE.
One more pick till my Titans.  
yatqb : 4/3/2015 2:00 pm : link
Struggling to choose between three players.
One more pick to complete the first round  
Kevin in CT : 4/3/2015 2:05 pm : link
Great job, everyone!
Only one new GM offering to take SD thus far...  
Matt G : 4/3/2015 2:28 pm : link
For those those who expressed interest on the sign-up thread, speak up now or forever hold your peace...
I have my eyes set on a certain player  
Anakim : 4/3/2015 2:49 pm : link
A bit surprised he hasn't been taken, but he's been forgotten a bit over the last few months.



That's all I'll say!
This is so much fun to follow  
Old Dirty Beckham : 4/3/2015 2:54 pm : link
I wish I was involved.
Me too!  
GiantBlue : 4/3/2015 3:01 pm : link
This is great....I wish there was more discussion outside of the selectors, but enjoying this immensely!
Nebraska?  
YAJ2112 : 4/3/2015 3:01 pm : link
Jon is going to be pissed!
The pick is in!  
Torrag : 4/3/2015 3:03 pm : link
and Melvin Gordon gets the nod from 'Lil Bill & Co. Gordon is an electric talent with the ball in his hands. He has some work to do as a pass protector and proving he will be a reliable receiving threat out of the backfield. The Pats know how to work with young talent and he'll reach his potential in New England imo.
Excuse me!  
Torrag : 4/3/2015 3:06 pm : link
University of Wisconsin...red unis and dominant run blocking gets me every time.
Tough choice here for the Titans.  
yatqb : 4/3/2015 3:14 pm : link
Do they go interior DL with Jordan Phillips, RT with Jake Fisher, OG with Cann, or outside rush LB with either Harold or Thompson?
RE: Tough choice here for the Titans.  
Mike in NY : 4/3/2015 3:21 pm : link
In comment 12216566 yatqb said:
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Do they go interior DL with Jordan Phillips, RT with Jake Fisher, OG with Cann, or outside rush LB with either Harold or Thompson?


Nice pair of bookends for Mariota in Fisher and Lewan
Damn I am having trouble deciding  
Jay on the Island : 4/3/2015 3:32 pm : link
I was all set to take Fisher with this pick.
Matt G  
Rick in Dallas : 4/3/2015 3:36 pm : link
On your recap of the first round, the Cowboys selected Kevin Johnson with the 27th pick and Denver picking 28th selected TJ Clemmings. Can you fix that on your first round recap. Thanks rick
After taking Winston with the first pick  
Jay on the Island : 4/3/2015 3:38 pm : link
I know I have to fix the offensive line. Unfortunately Tampa didn't do anything to upgrade their line in free agency. Cann can take over immediately at right guard to help improve the line.
give me about  
Amtoft : 4/3/2015 3:44 pm : link
15 mins... I have 3 players I like here.
I gave some serious consideration to picking Gordon  
MadPlaid : 4/3/2015 3:44 pm : link
The Packers could always use someone with his talent. Lacy has had some issues with staying healthy. Gordon would have been a nice addition.

I find it interesting that the other guys I was looking at for Green Bay went one two after my selection.
RE: RE: Tough choice here for the Titans.  
yatqb : 4/3/2015 3:46 pm : link
In comment 12216568 Mike in NY said:
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In comment 12216566 yatqb said:


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Do they go interior DL with Jordan Phillips, RT with Jake Fisher, OG with Cann, or outside rush LB with either Harold or Thompson?



Nice pair of bookends for Mariota in Fisher and Lewan


Thanks, Mike. I felt that he could take over at RT immediately, and that's one area of weakness on their team.

But there were a bunch of guys who stood out as good values at 33.
Wanted some other players to fall....  
Amtoft : 4/3/2015 4:06 pm : link
Got excited when I saw Melvin Gordon dropping. I was hoping that Strong, Jalen Collins, Malcom Brown, or Fisher ....

That being said we are very happy to take Phillips. Big run defender with some quickness. We picture Dan Williams and him closing lanes on run downs. We had a few other players we really like, but felt that Phillips was to go to pass up. With Fowler and Phillips the Raiders front 7 is a major focus on getting fixed. With adding Khalil Mack, Sio Moore, Curtis Loften, Dan Williams, Dante Fowler, and now Phillips we are a few player from putting together a strong Def.
Great pick, Amtoft.  
yatqb : 4/3/2015 4:10 pm : link
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Gentlemen, I'm heading out in a bit for beer/dinner...  
Matt G : 4/3/2015 4:13 pm : link
GMs for BUF and NYJ have been sent email reminders...
Sorry JAX and NYJ  
Matt G : 4/3/2015 4:14 pm : link
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No real surprises from Round 1  
raever : 4/3/2015 5:43 pm : link
MikeNY and Torrag got nice values with Malcolm Brown #26 and Melvin Gordon #32 imo.
Already a BBI draft day tradition...  
Matt G : 4/3/2015 8:20 pm : link
Ha!  
MadPlaid : 4/3/2015 8:22 pm : link
That's a good one
HI mongos! I'm back home in NY.  
Optimus-NY : 4/4/2015 4:06 am : link
Interesting end of the first round. I'm up at pick #47 overall in the second for the Fish, so I've got to set up a 12 player board now that we're at pick #35 overall. I've got my eyes dead set on one player in particular right now who's still available though. Hope he falls to me at 47.
I really hope  
Mike in NY : 4/4/2015 6:55 am : link
We are not waiting until 11 AM Monday for Kevin to pick
I've emailed hm twice...  
Matt G : 4/4/2015 7:16 am : link
I have the Jets pick ready to go...
...  
Optimus-NY : 4/4/2015 7:47 am : link
Agreed..itis the holiday weekend...patience  
Rick in Dallas : 4/4/2015 9:02 am : link
The draft is moving along at a nive pace..no need to rush.
Matt  
Rick in Dallas : 4/4/2015 9:05 am : link
I left you a message that in the first round order of selections you have Denver at 27 picking Kevin Johnson. Please move Dallas to 27 and drop Denver to 28 where they picked Clemmings.
Just providing status updates for the GMs who have picks coming up  
Matt G : 4/4/2015 9:06 am : link
JAX still has until 11am on Monday if necessary...
Thanks Matt  
Rick in Dallas : 4/4/2015 9:20 am : link
You do a great job running the draft.
Good pick by Jax  
Jay on the Island : 4/4/2015 10:27 am : link
They reunite Lee and Agholor and if Blackmon can go a year without being suspended then Jax will have a very dangerous receiving corps with Blackmon, Lee, Agholor, Robinson, and Hurns.
RE: I really hope  
Mike in NY : 4/4/2015 10:30 am : link
In comment 12217073 Mike in NY said:
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We are not waiting until 11 AM Monday for Kevin to pick


On second thought I don't mind autodrafting for Jacksonville! :)
Jacksonville needs upgrades at every position  
Kevin in CT : 4/4/2015 10:39 am : link
Pure coincidence that I have drafted two guys from USC. Agholor is a guy that runs great routes and can do double duty as a punt returner. Every time I turned on a USC game, he was making a play. I know the Philadelphia Eagles have worked him out multiple times over the past couple of weeks. I think he may remind them of a Jeremy Maclin.
I apologize for not getting my pick in last night  
Kevin in CT : 4/4/2015 10:40 am : link
Happy hour lasted a little longer than expected!
RE: Jacksonville needs upgrades at every position  
Jay on the Island : 4/4/2015 10:46 am : link
In comment 12217249 Kevin in CT said:
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Pure coincidence that I have drafted two guys from USC. Agholor is a guy that runs great routes and can do double duty as a punt returner. Every time I turned on a USC game, he was making a play. I know the Philadelphia Eagles have worked him out multiple times over the past couple of weeks. I think he may remind them of a Jeremy Maclin.


I don't think Jax is that far off. Their defensive line is solid with good depth. They have a few good players on their offensive line in Joekel, Beadles, Linder and they signed Parnell. They could use help at center, RB, and CB but if Bortles progresses they may surprise and be an 8-8 team this year.
Dangit! I was pretty confident Agholor would make it to 40  
Andy in Halifax : 4/4/2015 11:34 am : link
Now I gotta put some work in again.

PLan A was Cooper then Tomlinson
Plan B was Scherff/Collins/Flowers/Peat then Agholor unless Odi fell.

On to plan C!

Great pickup Kevin. I think he's got a lot of Reggie Wayne in him. Very smooth, runs sharp routes and can make plays deep.
As a fan I'd be hoping for a stud defensive player  
Eric on Li : 4/4/2015 11:45 am : link
Byron Jones, Quentin Rollins, Preston Smith, and Danielle Hunter are all intriguing guys I could very easily see being Giants. PJ Williams would have at the top of that conversation but with the off the field stuff who knows. Regardless of exact position a stud DL or DB would play right away for this team and make a big impact.
Not sure about the real Giants draft board  
Andy in Halifax : 4/4/2015 12:39 pm : link
but PJ Williams isn't on mine.
Sao  
MadPlaid : 4/4/2015 12:40 pm : link
Ha! Impatient much? You aren't up for a little while. Appreciate the enthusiasm though.
With Agholor gone don't force a WR Andy imo  
raever : 4/4/2015 12:41 pm : link
There is talent through 5 rounds there in this draft.
RE: With Agholor gone don't force a WR Andy imo  
Mike in NY : 4/4/2015 12:44 pm : link
In comment 12217404 raever said:
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There is talent through 5 rounds there in this draft.


Maybe he can punish New Orleans for picking early
For some reason went I was looking at it last night  
Saos1n : 4/4/2015 12:47 pm : link
I was thinking to myself, once Kevin picks, jump on Nelson...

I'm up... Strange situation... Oh well... Still a ton of talent on the board...

MadPlaid got me at pick 30... Adding Gregory and Armstead would've gone a long way to aiding in the transition to a 3-4 for N.O.
No worries there. There are WR's I like  
Andy in Halifax : 4/4/2015 12:48 pm : link
but unlikely they will be in the top remaining tier of players I'll look at for my pick. There's actually quite a few guys available that I figured to be taken by now. A couple guys went in 1 that I had going after my 2nd pick (Strong and DBG).

KInda makes my pick a bit more interesting... although historically my second round pick has been a disaster outside of Sean Lee, Max Unger and maybe David Amerson (good rookie year... bad second year...) so we'll see how I mess this one up.
I'm here  
Anakim : 4/4/2015 1:28 pm : link
My pick is coming up
RE: I'm here  
Mike in NY : 4/4/2015 1:30 pm : link
In comment 12217450 Anakim said:
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My pick is coming up


Hopefully SYS picks soon :)
Shit. I wanted Harold.  
Anakim : 4/4/2015 1:30 pm : link
Alright. Let's see what Washington does
Alright I'm up  
Anakim : 4/4/2015 1:36 pm : link
Let's see what I have up my sleeve
Let's see what Andy does  
Mike in NY : 4/4/2015 2:21 pm : link
A number of intriguing options
this pick should be easy...  
Amtoft : 4/4/2015 2:24 pm : link
Last good 4-3 DE pass rusher Preston Smith still on the board. If u want a DE this is one of ur last chances. Of course if u don't then this pick becomes much harder
Hmmm, number of guys I like.  
Andy in Halifax : 4/4/2015 2:25 pm : link
Some of them also fill needs.

Two of them I hadn't given much thought because I assumed they were mid to late 1st round picks.

I think I have it down to 2 guys... give me a few mins to flip a coin...
Smith isn't the only worthy or viable candidate here  
Torrag : 4/4/2015 2:39 pm : link
He doesn't stick out like a sore thumb imo. He is a good option though.
Lots of reasonable options.  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/4/2015 2:42 pm : link
Looks like Andy was right not to leave OL for Round Two. Now he can choose among:
Edge: Preston Smith(DE), Danielle Hunter, Nate Orchard, Shaq Thompson (LB), Hau'oli Kikaha
TE: Maxx Williams
ILB: Benardrick McKinney, Stephone Anthony
DB: Quinten Rollins, Byron Jones, Damarious Randall, P.J. Williams (DUI and all)
WR: Devin Smith, Breshad Perriman, Sammie Coates
DT: Michael Bennett
etc, etc.
Shaq, Williams, McKinnie, Smith & Orchard  
Andy in Halifax : 4/4/2015 2:49 pm : link
Was really hard to decide. Other guys were there that I liked as well. Lots to choose from.
The Giant-ish pick might have been Hunter, Anthony, or a WR/CB.  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/4/2015 2:52 pm : link
Lots of great measurables in that group.

For all of Andy's excitement about his speed, Shaq Thompson is fast for a linebacker, not a safety.

I'm glad you went defense  
Torrag : 4/4/2015 2:52 pm : link
Shaq is a damn good football player now it's up to Spags to put him in position to be a playmaker for us.
Interesting pick  
Eric on Li : 4/4/2015 3:04 pm : link
I'm all for adding the best possible playmaker to the defense, regardless of position, but IMO Thompson's production seems to belie the playmaker label as a front 7 guy. Obviously a lot of that could be where he played, and if they think his fit for a specific position would have (or will) boost his production then he could be a target.
Since they just signed a pair of 230-pound LBs to decent contracts...  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/4/2015 3:34 pm : link
...I don't see the Giants spending the 40th pick on a 230-pound linebacker who has played as light as 215 and might project to strong safety. Of course, if he's the clear BPA (i.e., the only player left on his tier of their board), they will take him. How likely is that? To me, Thompson looks like a player who would be valued more highly by several other teams - based on need, fit, and positional premium.

I don't understand the Kam Chancellor comparison. Chancellor is three inches taller and a concussive hitter who excelled at both safety positions at V-Tech after playing QB and CB. Thompson has barely played safety at all; his coverage skills are largely unknown and he's not even regarded as much a hitter. They are both versatile; on paper, that seems to be the extent of the similarity. And versatility didn't keep Chancellor from dropping to the fifth round.

Then again, I've only watched a few Huskies games during Thompson's career, so maybe I'm missing something.
Not really sure where a  
section125 : 4/4/2015 3:37 pm : link
guy his size fits in. Is he a small LB or a heavy safety?
I wouldn't have picked Shaq but...  
Torrag : 4/4/2015 3:41 pm : link
...he is a talent. He shows strongly in game tape and has stellar football instincts while being a good overall athlete. If we use him as a SS he has enough speed and is good in the box. He'd be competing for WILL LB snaps with JT Thomas and Casillas not exactly All Pro's in their own right. ...He's a football player and I'd rather go that route than a numbers guy who is 'searching' for it.
Andy in Halifax  
giantgiantfan : 4/4/2015 3:50 pm : link
Why not. We got the line solved in round 1, need playmakers on what was a terrible defense last year.
I didn't compare him to Chancellor as a player  
Andy in Halifax : 4/4/2015 4:01 pm : link
I said he could fill a similar role. My point was that he's not strictly one thing - he can be used a variety of ways in different situations. He did kick ass against Stanford as a SS last year - so its not completely a shot in the dark to project him other than WIL.
Andy where are you looking  
section125 : 4/4/2015 4:26 pm : link
to play him, his primary position? Are you thinking Spags is making a fundamental change to the Giants linebacking philosophy (if they have one anymore)?
Not saying it's a bad pick by any means.  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/4/2015 4:35 pm : link
I just don't think it's a plausible pick, after the Thomas and Casillas signings. I know they aren't world-beaters, but they will absolutely be on the team.
Thomas and Casillas  
Torrag : 4/4/2015 4:43 pm : link
don't stop you from drafting someone you believe in. Thomas has value at multiple positions having stepped in admirably at MLB for Posluszny last year.
I agree with that, unlikely the Giants take him  
Andy in Halifax : 4/4/2015 4:45 pm : link
although there were rumors we liked Shazier a year ago (no idea if true) so it might not be totally implausible.

I see this as a guy Spags could use in different ways - but his position in the program will be OLB and I think whichever team that really drafts him will use him as such. Primarily an OLB with occasional use as a "Big DB"
I would certainly like to  
section125 : 4/4/2015 5:02 pm : link
see some athletic LBs on this team.
section  
Torrag : 4/4/2015 5:04 pm : link
I think we've gotten more athletic with Kennard/Thomas/Casillas in the last two years. Does that equal better? We'll find out.
Torrag: Agreed- if you think Thompson is a game-changer, you take him.  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/4/2015 5:11 pm : link
He'd also be a fun player to root for. Somebody will take that gamble - quite possibly before #40. I just don't think the Giants will be that team. The gamble represented by Preston Smith, Danielle Hunter, P.J.Williams, Sammie Coates or Quinten Rollins (or even Ronald Darby or Byron Jones or Breshad Perriman or Phillip Dorsett) seems more the Giants' style: they all project to positions on which the Giants place a premium, and several have eye-popping measurables.
Quick comment on the Redskins Pick...  
SirYesSir : 4/4/2015 5:15 pm : link
The defensive upgrade continues with a fast interior linebacker who can stay on the field all three downs, and use athleticism to cover tight ends across the middle (although he lacks ideal size for that job)

Kendricks is nfl ready, won the Butkus award last year, and is brothers with Mychael Kendricks who has already done great work with the eagles.

Skins are in a division now with the Eagles (and to a lesser extent Giants) who spread teams out and force defenders to be versatile. With that in mind, Kendricks seemed the best suited to play multiple roles (unlike McKinney who seems more of a hulk-smash prospect) and stands out at a position of scarcity in this draft.
RE: Torrag: Agreed- if you think Thompson is a game-changer, you take him.  
Eric on Li : 4/4/2015 5:28 pm : link
In comment 12217664 Big Blue Blogger said:
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He'd also be a fun player to root for. Somebody will take that gamble - quite possibly before #40. I just don't think the Giants will be that team. The gamble represented by Preston Smith, Danielle Hunter, P.J.Williams, Sammie Coates or Quinten Rollins (or even Ronald Darby or Byron Jones or Breshad Perriman or Phillip Dorsett) seems more the Giants' style: they all project to positions on which the Giants place a premium, and several have eye-popping measurables.


I agree with this. In the Coughlin/Reese era they just haven't valued sideline to sideline LB's all that heavily in the draft (kind of like TEs). Think the last one they picked was probably Geris Wilkenson, though I guess they also signed Boley and he played a pretty big role for a few years. Either way, if they go LB I see a Perryman type, who could possibly be a long term MLB or an edge rusher who presents an amazing value like Beasley may at 9. There's a chance Thompson is one of those guys at #40, but I'd guess they are more likely to go with 1 of the guys you mentioned who is a more obvious projection at a position we know they value (DB and DE primarily).
Also, it wouldn't be the first time Andy went a better route than  
Eric on Li : 4/4/2015 5:31 pm : link
they actually go. Lord knows how things would be different if they'd drafted the same OL he has.
RE: section  
section125 : 4/4/2015 5:37 pm : link
In comment 12217658 Torrag said:
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I think we've gotten more athletic with Kennard/Thomas/Casillas in the last two years. Does that equal better? We'll find out.


They need a banger in the middle, too - IF Beason is healthy.. big if. I also like Perryman out of the U. But don't think they could go LB 2nd and 3rd - if Perryman lasts to #74.
I think I'd have gone with Preston Smith given JPP's situation,  
yatqb : 4/5/2015 12:11 am : link
but Shaq is a great athlete who makes a lot of plays, so no complaints from this quarter. It would be interesting to see how Spags would scheme for him.
not a fan of Hunter  
Mike in NY : 4/5/2015 8:29 am : link
But Atlanta needs all of the pass rush help it can get and especially after passing on Shane Ray for Scherff in Round 1
Andy I like your pick  
raever : 4/5/2015 9:04 am : link
I would like it more if Shaq had delivered the freak workout many were expecting from him at the Combine and Pro Day. But then again if he had he wouldn't be available at #40.

I would have taken P. Smith or D. Hunter.

JPP is playing on the franchise tag. He has had some consistency and health concerns. Moore is the only real 'upside' talent at DE. We have some solid rotational guys in Ayers/Selvie/Wynn.
Clevelands pick is in, sorry saos  
Lionhart28 : 4/5/2015 11:09 am : link
when Jordan Phillips went, Maxx Williams became the top player on my board and at a huge position of need. With no Jordan Cameron, Gary Barnidge is the Browns top TE.
Lionhart  
Saos1n : 4/5/2015 11:16 am : link
No worries, man..

That was my mistake... He wouldn't have been there anyways... Obviously...

Nice value with Maxx.. Well done
Back to back Perriymans...  
raever : 4/5/2015 11:22 am : link
...a first for the BBI Mock Draft?
Tom Benson has applied to change his teams name to the  
Saos1n : 4/5/2015 11:27 am : link
New Orleans Off the Field Concerns... I've been rolling the dice on quite a few prospects for the Saints in hopes that they figure it out and it pays off on the field for the Saints...

M Loomis himself has stated that trading Jimmy Graham was a move intended to fix the defense...

I've tried to do that early on with the selections of Gregory to supply the edge rusher they so desperately need, as well as Peters at CB, who can be groomed behind B Browner and K Lewis...

Playmakers are need after the trading of Graham... B Cooks is a nice piece to build upon, but a long, burner type is needed... Colston is getting up there in age and his production tailed off heavily recently...

Perriman has the tools to be a game changer... Can Brees help him get there? We will see...
After going with BPA at 11 that wasn't a position of need  
Jay in Saratoga : 4/5/2015 12:06 pm : link
for Minnesota with Shelton, I was glad to see BPA align with need at 45 with Perryman. I had a late 1st grade on him and had him as the 2nd best backer, only behind Kendricks.
New Orleans wins the Most Ironic Pick award.  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/5/2015 12:19 pm : link
How often has a team drafted the son of a player who was a bust for the same club?
I'm surprised to hear some of you felt I mised out on Preston Smith  
Andy in Halifax : 4/5/2015 12:53 pm : link
Isn't he an awful lot like the other DL's I've taken over the years? Corey Wootton, Christian Ballard, Malik Jackson, etc.

Maybe I just got gun shy due to those past results but I didn't think Smith was any better than those former prospects. They all played well in college but lacked something to make it as starters in the pros - probably athletic ability/explosiveness - and I wanted to get away from that.
Andy, it's all in the eyes of the beholder.  
yatqb : 4/5/2015 12:57 pm : link
I see Smith as a guy who can come in and start at LDE; a really solid run stopper (and we sure need that) and he can also get to the QB. A guy who can also move to DT in a NASCAR package.
Miami Dolphins are ready to pick at 47  
Optimus-NY : 4/5/2015 1:22 pm : link
Waiting on Pete from Woodstock to pick for the Niners at 46.
I chose another Cane for the Fish  
Optimus-NY : 4/5/2015 9:47 pm : link
I like staying local:

Flowers in Round #1, and Dorsett in Round #2.
Hey, BBI War Rooms and  
ColHowPepper : 4/5/2015 9:55 pm : link
the BBI members who man them:

Just kind of cruising through this and the the MockDraft thread, you guys are excellent!!! A tip of the hat, glass, and mouse to you students of the draft game for your knowledge, craft, savvy, and decorum.

CHP
RE: I'm surprised to hear some of you felt I mised out on Preston Smith  
Amtoft : 4/5/2015 11:04 pm : link
In comment 12218381 Andy in Halifax said:
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Isn't he an awful lot like the other DL's I've taken over the years? Corey Wootton, Christian Ballard, Malik Jackson, etc.

Maybe I just got gun shy due to those past results but I didn't think Smith was any better than those former prospects. They all played well in college but lacked something to make it as starters in the pros - probably athletic ability/explosiveness - and I wanted to get away from that.


I don't think he was the only player to look at, but I do feel he was the best 4-3 DE left in the draft. Really after Smith the talent just drops off to me. So to me if u wanted a DE end the draft that was the last one to take IMO that looks like he could be a starter. Shaq has made so many plays it's crazy. The ball just finds him in an uncanny way. He is so good at everything he does they put him at RB this last year and he was a super star. 1st Pac12 at LB and 1st team Pac12 ST player. Tons of talent that would play somewhere on this team. Don't think we would take him but can't argue that the kid is an excellent player
RE: Not saying it's a bad pick by any means.  
BlueLou : 4/6/2015 3:52 am : link
In comment 12217627 Big Blue Blogger said:
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I just don't think it's a plausible pick, after the Thomas and Casillas signings. I know they aren't world-beaters, but they will absolutely be on the team.


^^^^ This. Don't see the role for Shaq on the team after nabbing Casillas and Thomas... Devin Smith, or one of the available DEs, or McKinney seem like the better fit here.
Smith, or Dorsett for that matter.  
BlueLou : 4/6/2015 3:55 am : link
That's leaving 2 BIG play WRs on the board for an undersized OLB, after they just signed 2 similar OLBs????
Dorsett is faster than light  
Optimus-NY : 4/6/2015 4:05 am : link
He's a threat to score form anywhere on the field. You literally have to defend every blade of grass/astroturf against him.
armstead98 taking over as GM of SD...  
Matt G : 4/6/2015 6:52 am : link
.
Jay Ajayi - Boise St.  
armstead98 : 4/6/2015 7:16 am : link
Chargers select RB Jay Ajayi from Boise St. Ajayi has it all and adds some much needed youth, size and talent to San Diego's backfield.

Ajayi is the next Marshawn Lynch / Steven Jackson type and will be a force in the NFL.

Matt, thanks for letting me jump in.
No problem, armstead98...  
Matt G : 4/6/2015 8:20 am : link
I have KC's board... Per his instructions, I will give him one hour on the clock (10AM) before making a selection on his behalf...
Bills  
NJGiantFan84 : 4/6/2015 10:57 am : link
were really hoping for a guard here and would have aimed at selecting Grayson in the 3rd round. But with Cann & Tomlinson, who we hoped would fall to us, off the board, as well as Petty going the pick before us, Bills couldn't risk not getting the QB they were aiming for.
Mini run on QB's!  
Andy in Halifax : 4/6/2015 11:04 am : link
I like it.

Lots of active posters coming up, could see a lot of picks today.
Houston runs up to the podium  
Modus Operandi : 4/6/2015 11:09 am : link
To select Preston Smith, whom we envision as an OLB/DE in the hybrid 3-4.
Nice Pick  
NJGiantFan84 : 4/6/2015 11:13 am : link
Modus. He was a name I heavily considered. I figured Rex would foam at the mouth with the thoughts of the multiple things he could do with Smith.
I love it when the picks come fast  
MadPlaid : 4/6/2015 11:13 am : link
I'm always eating my hat waiting for my turn.

I like how this draft is moving and shaping up. Always very interesting to watch our GM's come up with whom they think is best from their observations and opinions.

Mini run on QBs, exciting.
Modus  
MadPlaid : 4/6/2015 11:16 am : link
nice gif. Smith lined up on the nose, and he beat both the Center and Guard to get the QB. He was like a hot knife on butter. Helped that the QB fumbled the snap.
With the defensive backfield needing an infusion of talent  
Modus Operandi : 4/6/2015 11:30 am : link
And with Joseph possibly leaving after the year, I also considered going CB again or Dorsett. Terps took Dorsett just ahead of us and I felt adding a guy like Smith, who is physical at the POA and a good run defender would help more.

Really like him as an OLB, particularly as Clowney insurance.
Eagles select Sammie Coates...  
Chris in Philly : 4/6/2015 11:35 am : link
While we are aware of his dropped balls, we think our sports science laboratory minions can fix it and he is a freak with unlimited athletic potential. He'll be a good fit to replace the speed that we lost with Desean Jackson's departure, he'll help open the field for Jordan Matthews, and he'll be the deep target we have lacked.
Detroit was debating between Coleman and Michael Bennett  
YAJ2112 : 4/6/2015 11:46 am : link
Cincinatti ended the debate.
Nice pick of Coleman  
Mike in NY : 4/6/2015 12:02 pm : link
He was on my short list for the Baltimore Ravens
ended up going with Byron Jones  
DCPollaro : 4/6/2015 12:26 pm : link
out of UConn for the Arizona Cardinals. Love his versatility and measurables. Would have been happy with a few other guys as well
I was waiting for that GIF!  
Andy in Halifax : 4/6/2015 12:31 pm : link
That still blows my mind.
I was torn btwn Bennett and Jones at #53  
Matt G : 4/6/2015 12:33 pm : link
.
yea its  
DCPollaro : 4/6/2015 12:39 pm : link
jaw dropping

RE: ended up going with Byron Jones  
Mike in NY : 4/6/2015 12:39 pm : link
In comment 12219392 DCPollaro said:
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out of UConn for the Arizona Cardinals. Love his versatility and measurables. Would have been happy with a few other guys as well


Like Tevin Coleman, Byron Jones was also on my short list. When today started there were 5 people on the highest row on my board and Coleman/Jones were the first selections from that 5 so fortunately at least one will be available when I pick
I'm loving Carolina's draft  
Andy in Halifax : 4/6/2015 1:01 pm : link
Now excuse me while I go puke.
I think in real life..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/6/2015 1:01 pm : link
if Duke Johnson is staring at the Panthers, they snap him up as a replacement for Deangelo Williams and the eventual injury bug that will hit Stewart.

I probably would have gone OL there, but I think at this point, Johnson is a better value pick at a position of need.
Andy..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/6/2015 1:02 pm : link
A blind squirrel finds a nut at least once a decade!
Steelers need help in the secondary  
GMen-in-SC : 4/6/2015 1:04 pm : link
And Rowe can play both Safety and Corner. The Steelers will more than likely start him at corner though - what he lacks I'm recovery speed, he makes up for in physical line play.
Duke makes sense for the Panthers  
YAJ2112 : 4/6/2015 1:09 pm : link
As much as you would think Gettleman would be loathe to spend more resources at the RB position given how much cap room they've been costing him since he got there between Stewart/Deangelo/Tolbert, all of those guys will be off the roster by the start of 2016 so it is time to get a replacement if not a potential starter for this year when Stewart goes down.
Ravens 2nd Round pick is in  
Mike in NY : 4/6/2015 1:15 pm : link
There were 3 players under consideration with this pick, but I thought that Smith represented the best combination of need, value and position scarcity. After Smith the WR crop in this draft drops off IMHO so didn't want to wait until Round 3 to address this need as the Ravens lost Jacoby Jones and Torrey Smith in the offseason as the talent drop would be much greater than at other positions that were under consideration
Cowboys ready to pick at number 60  
Rick in Dallas : 4/6/2015 1:32 pm : link
we have 3 players on our draft board remaining with 2nd round grades.
hey Mike  
DCPollaro : 4/6/2015 1:33 pm : link
that was going to be my other pick if i didnt go Byron Jones
RE: hey Mike  
Mike in NY : 4/6/2015 1:38 pm : link
In comment 12219596 DCPollaro said:
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that was going to be my other pick if i didnt go Byron Jones


If you had taken Smith and the intervening picks remained the same Byron Jones would have been my pick!
Nice pick, Mike  
Lionhart28 : 4/6/2015 2:06 pm : link
I've had Smith in my top 3 players for about the last 20 picks.
Anthony was my guy and it wasn't even close.  
jlukes : 4/6/2015 2:32 pm : link
reminds me a ton of Brandon Spikes coming out of school and is the run-stuffer the Broncos need in the middle of their defense.
Awesome pick Lukes  
Lionhart28 : 4/6/2015 2:33 pm : link
I actually think he's the first ILB selected this year. I almost took him at 43, I would have if Maxx Williams wasn't there.
RE: Steelers need help in the secondary  
Amtoft : 4/6/2015 2:34 pm : link
In comment 12219494 GMen-in-SC said:
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And Rowe can play both Safety and Corner. The Steelers will more than likely start him at corner though - what he lacks I'm recovery speed, he makes up for in physical line play.


Really like his pick... while he is a good FS I really think he was better at CB and think he absolutely can play and excel there. If not he will easily fall back into a good FS making him one if the more safer CB picks to take.
Nice pick, jlukes  
MadPlaid : 4/6/2015 2:37 pm : link
bastid

Anthony was one of three who are at the top of my list. I was likely going to take him though because I see the talent pool at ILB dropping off big time after him.
RE: Houston runs up to the podium  
Amtoft : 4/6/2015 2:38 pm : link
In comment 12219231 Modus Operandi said:
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To select Preston Smith, whom we envision as an OLB/DE in the hybrid 3-4.


No way Houston take Smith. Not only is this a bad fit, but with Watt, Clowney, and Houston all playing the roll u want Smith to take u just took a back up player with a premium pick... that doesn't even fit this system. This is like the people complaining they don't want the Giants to draft Gregory because he isn't a good fit well in reverse Smith is not a 3-4 DE or a 3-4 OLB

Just my opinion. Even when Smith gets drafted by a 4-3 defense and does well you won't he able to come back and be like hey I drafted him because he won't be productive on that team.
I gotta say...  
Chris in Philly : 4/6/2015 2:52 pm : link
I'm just not loving the talent level in this draft. So many question marks, which I guess is normal, but eh.
Hedging my bet on whether Cowboys trade for AP  
Rick in Dallas : 4/6/2015 2:54 pm : link
Cowboys bringing in 5 RB's for pre draft visits to Valley Ranch. They are as follows: Gurley,Gordon,Coleman,Ajayi and Abdullah.Since the other 4 have already been picked previously the Boy's pick Abdullah who will be very dangerous running behind that OL.
If Gurley gets into the low 20's in the real draft I have a feeling Jerry Jones would trade up to draft him.
Agree Chris.  
Andy in Halifax : 4/6/2015 2:56 pm : link
I think there is a vast group of guys that are okay but have ???'s. Basically 50 guys in a big clump, all with their own flaws.
The talent level is good in this draft it's just weak in the Top 15  
Torrag : 4/6/2015 3:13 pm : link
Certain positions are lacking but that happens in a lot of drafts. If you want a WR or RB you're happy. If you need a TE or S it's thin pickings.
GoTerps is on the clock until 4:49  
Mike in NY : 4/6/2015 3:54 pm : link
I see no reason to deviate from the highest ranked player on the GBN list Quinten Rollins if GoTerps does not make his pick before then
Does anyone have his contact info to send him a heads up?  
Torrag : 4/6/2015 3:56 pm : link
?
We could do a call out thread  
MadPlaid : 4/6/2015 4:02 pm : link
Sound like a good idea?
Andy  
Old Dirty Beckham : 4/6/2015 4:05 pm : link
I know I'm late but was disappointed in your pick for Shaq Thompson. Too much of a project for the Giants. I know Castillas and JT aren't the type of players to ignore a prospect for but Thompson has too many what If's to add to that group.

Just my opinion.
He was last active at 1:23  
Jay in Saratoga : 4/6/2015 4:05 pm : link
he wont see the callout thread anyway.
That's cool.  
Andy in Halifax : 4/6/2015 4:10 pm : link
Any thoughts on who you'd have preferred?
I'd hate for Go Terps to miss his pick  
MadPlaid : 4/6/2015 4:11 pm : link
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This  
Jon in NYC : 4/6/2015 4:13 pm : link
run on RBs is killing me.
Still a good one left (imo).  
Andy in Halifax : 4/6/2015 4:21 pm : link
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Andy  
Old Dirty Beckham : 4/6/2015 4:22 pm : link
Would have preferred any of Coates, Preston Smith, Hunter, Laken Tomlinson (even with OL in rd 1) Dorsett, Bennett, Eric Rowe.

Shaq has too much of a bust factor to me.
RE: Andy  
Mike in NY : 4/6/2015 4:23 pm : link
In comment 12219992 Old Dirty Beckham said:
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Would have preferred any of Coates, Preston Smith, Hunter, Laken Tomlinson (even with OL in rd 1) Dorsett, Bennett, Eric Rowe.

Shaq has too much of a bust factor to me.


Shaq is too much of a bust factor but you want Coates whose hands are crap and Hunter who did zip in college?
Was just about to post the same!  
Andy in Halifax : 4/6/2015 4:31 pm : link
How the hell to you throw out "bust factor" and then list Coates and Hunter as preferred picks.

RE: Still a good one left (imo).  
Jon in NYC : 4/6/2015 4:31 pm : link
In comment 12219990 Andy in Halifax said:
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There are a few left with some talent. But I think they're a clear tier below.
I emailed GoTerps  
Matt G : 4/6/2015 4:36 pm : link
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lol  
Old Dirty Beckham : 4/6/2015 4:50 pm : link
fair enough guys!
For the record - I'm happy to take all he criticism you've got  
Andy in Halifax : 4/6/2015 4:52 pm : link
Always fun for debate. I'm the first person to tell you I can't evaluate DLine if my life depended on it. I have a pretty unreal record drafting LB's though! Hopefully that continues with Shaq.
I'm giving GoTerps an extension until 9am  
Matt G : 4/6/2015 5:12 pm : link
We are moving at a good clip and Madplaid is okay with waiting on his pick which could take till tomorrow (if he chose to)... Hopefully, GoTerps checks in and we're back on track...
you may want to note that on the selection thread as well  
YAJ2112 : 4/6/2015 5:13 pm : link
Mike in NY put a default pick in for Indy
Andy's record is mostly stellar.  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/6/2015 6:46 pm : link
I promised to let the KW II thing go after eleven years, and I have, really.
RE: For the record - I'm happy to take all he criticism you've got  
giantgiantfan : 4/6/2015 10:09 pm : link
In comment 12220050 Andy in Halifax said:
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Always fun for debate. I'm the first person to tell you I can't evaluate DLine if my life depended on it. I have a pretty unreal record drafting LB's though! Hopefully that continues with Shaq.


Done well with offensive line picks if I'm not mistaken too.
RE: RE: Houston runs up to the podium  
Modus Operandi : 4/7/2015 4:34 am : link
In comment 12219786 Amtoft said:
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In comment 12219231 Modus Operandi said:


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To select Preston Smith, whom we envision as an OLB/DE in the hybrid 3-4.



No way Houston take Smith. Not only is this a bad fit, but with Watt, Clowney, and Houston all playing the roll u want Smith to take u just took a back up player with a premium pick... that doesn't even fit this system. This is like the people complaining they don't want the Giants to draft Gregory because he isn't a good fit well in reverse Smith is not a 3-4 DE or a 3-4 OLB

Just my opinion. Even when Smith gets drafted by a 4-3 defense and does well you won't he able to come back and be like hey I drafted him because he won't be productive on that team.


Settle down, Nancy.

Outside of Watt, an injured Clowney and Brian Cushing - who never sees the field - this defense needs talent. They play a hybrid 3-4 and most of the prospects drafted outside of the top 10 are going to start off as backups. A good football player is a good football player and Smith is a good run stopper with a developing pass rush arsenal. Houston can slowly integrate him into the defense as his recognition skills evolve.

Shots fired!  
Andy in Halifax : 4/7/2015 8:04 am : link
Long way to go to match the Frederick vs Schwenke battle between Jon and Amtoft though. You've got work to do!

btw - Frederick looks like the better player, I'm calling that debate. Schwenke was terrible before hurting his knee this year and Frederick is a stud.
I'm ready when you are  
MadPlaid : 4/7/2015 8:54 am : link
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GB is thrilled to select FSU's P.J. Williams  
MadPlaid : 4/7/2015 9:16 am : link
The Packers benefit by landing a potential 1st round talent at the bottom of the 2nd largely due to his recent DUI arrest. BPA and need hit perfectly here. Green Bay saw two of its DB's leave in free agency, so the need to add talent to this position was high. With the addition of a top DE and CB with the first two picks, the Pack's D is looking up. Now just need to find a decent LB prospect to put in the middle, and we will be golden.

Was debating who to select between Quinten Rollins and Williams, but Go Terps auto pick settled that one. If it came down to it, I think I was leaning towards Rollins because I like his long term potential better.
It's about now when difference in our respective boards show  
Andy in Halifax : 4/7/2015 9:16 am : link
I have 3 guys with early/mid 2 round round estimates for that have not been taken. They stick out like a sore thumb on my board.
RE: It's about now when difference in our respective boards show  
Mike in NY : 4/7/2015 9:26 am : link
In comment 12220992 Andy in Halifax said:
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I have 3 guys with early/mid 2 round round estimates for that have not been taken. They stick out like a sore thumb on my board.


For sure. There is one player that sticks out like a sore thumb to me, but there are others who would in theory be considered by some a 2nd Rounder due to placement in my Top 64, but in a better draft are not players I would have that high
I have 7 left on my board with a 2nd round grade  
Jay in Saratoga : 4/7/2015 9:28 am : link
4 of them I would have been more than OK with taking at 45.
RE: Shots fired!  
Jon in NYC : 4/7/2015 9:34 am : link
In comment 12220883 Andy in Halifax said:
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Long way to go to match the Frederick vs Schwenke battle between Jon and Amtoft though. You've got work to do!

btw - Frederick looks like the better player, I'm calling that debate. Schwenke was terrible before hurting his knee this year and Frederick is a stud.


Thanks Andy. That was a first round KO by yours truly.
Yeah, I should have qualified  
Andy in Halifax : 4/7/2015 9:42 am : link
I have guys that are early/mid 2nds this year - doubt they would have been that a year ago.
When I use the term 2nd round grade  
Jay in Saratoga : 4/7/2015 9:48 am : link
I'm not just talking prospects 33-64 in a ranked list. I put together a trello board to organize my per position lists and used labels to mark what value I thought each player was in. Blue chip, 1st round, 2nd round, 3rd round and day 3.

I had 5 blue chip players and 16 players with 1st round grades, meaning that if I'm picking in the 1st I better be getting one of these players. I had over 30 players with 2nd round grades. This draft feels like a deeper draft for day 2 talent, but not as heavy at the top as past drafts.
Sjnyfan time is ticking away amigo  
Torrag : 4/7/2015 9:58 am : link
you ready?
He was on this am...  
Matt G : 4/7/2015 10:10 am : link
Two email reminders have been sent
RE: RE: RE: Houston runs up to the podium  
Amtoft : 4/7/2015 10:20 am : link
In comment 12220828 Modus Operandi said:
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In comment 12219786 Amtoft said:


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In comment 12219231 Modus Operandi said:


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To select Preston Smith, whom we envision as an OLB/DE in the hybrid 3-4.



No way Houston take Smith. Not only is this a bad fit, but with Watt, Clowney, and Houston all playing the roll u want Smith to take u just took a back up player with a premium pick... that doesn't even fit this system. This is like the people complaining they don't want the Giants to draft Gregory because he isn't a good fit well in reverse Smith is not a 3-4 DE or a 3-4 OLB

Just my opinion. Even when Smith gets drafted by a 4-3 defense and does well you won't he able to come back and be like hey I drafted him because he won't be productive on that team.



Settle down, Nancy.

Outside of Watt, an injured Clowney and Brian Cushing - who never sees the field - this defense needs talent. They play a hybrid 3-4 and most of the prospects drafted outside of the top 10 are going to start off as backups. A good football player is a good football player and Smith is a good run stopper with a developing pass rush arsenal. Houston can slowly integrate him into the defense as his recognition skills evolve.


Favorite answer of someone who drafts a player out of position... oh they play a hybrid so it's cool I take a player that doesn't fit at all. What about Whitney Mercilus? He plays the same position at Clowney and now Smith which means you added a player to play the same position. A defense that needs talent thank goodness u added a 3rd string back up in the second round ... that by the way doesn't fit their Defense at all. So princess I am sorry to hurt ur feelings that u need to try and tell me to settle down. If u can't handle someone criticizing u then don't make such a dumb pick.

You're welcome
Guys cut it with the nancy/princess stuff  
Torrag : 4/7/2015 10:22 am : link
keep comments civil please. Argue all you want but let's not get into BS. Thanks.
RE: Guys cut it with the nancy/princess stuff  
Mike in NY : 4/7/2015 10:25 am : link
In comment 12221148 Torrag said:
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keep comments civil please. Argue all you want but let's not get into BS. Thanks.


Amtoft is just angry that I stole Marvin Jones from him
It is a freaking Mock Draft...chill out  
Rick in Dallas : 4/7/2015 10:26 am : link
were having some fun doing the mock draft keep your opinions civil.
RE: Shots fired!  
Amtoft : 4/7/2015 10:26 am : link
In comment 12220883 Andy in Halifax said:
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Long way to go to match the Frederick vs Schwenke battle between Jon and Amtoft though. You've got work to do!

btw - Frederick looks like the better player, I'm calling that debate. Schwenke was terrible before hurting his knee this year and Frederick is a stud.


Yeah I will give Jon all the credit there. Frederick looked like a stiff to me and seemed like the joke of the first round when picked. He has been very good. Schwenke tho is still young and was starting after being hurt his first year. I still think he can and will be a very good player.
RE: RE: Guys cut it with the nancy/princess stuff  
Amtoft : 4/7/2015 10:27 am : link
In comment 12221153 Mike in NY said:
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In comment 12221148 Torrag said:


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keep comments civil please. Argue all you want but let's not get into BS. Thanks.



Amtoft is just angry that I stole Marvin Jones from him


Steal of the draft!
I though Frederick was a big reach....  
Torrag : 4/7/2015 10:31 am : link
as did most of the draft community both professional and amateur. Dallas were given poor marks by Mel Kiper and most of the talking heads as well. Too bad he turned out to be damn good. Just goes to show you how tough the draft is to accurately predict.
RE: It is a freaking Mock Draft...chill out  
Amtoft : 4/7/2015 10:33 am : link
In comment 12221157 Rick in Dallas said:
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were having some fun doing the mock draft keep your opinions civil.


I replied accordingly. I am sorry he didn't like that I criticized his pick. What fun is the draft if we all just sit around going great pick and not talk about the reaches and bad picks. I am very chill but thank you for worrying about my level of ummm upsetness (sure not a word but I like it)
If sjnyfan is a no show who is the player to be awarded  
Torrag : 4/7/2015 10:45 am : link
I'm up next and don't want to see the guy I've targeted taken off the board on a technicality.
RE: If sjnyfan is a no show who is the player to be awarded  
Chris in Philly : 4/7/2015 10:50 am : link
In comment 12221193 Torrag said:
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I'm up next and don't want to see the guy I've targeted taken off the board on a technicality.


Nate Orchard...
Thanks Chris  
Torrag : 4/7/2015 10:52 am : link
sjny just picked but I appreciate the info. My pick will be in shortly guys. i just want to do a quick review so I didn't miss anything.
Tre' Jackson closes out the Second Round  
Torrag : 4/7/2015 11:09 am : link
Pats have a need at both OG spots and are very satisfied to have added a true mauler to the mix. Road grader that dominates in the short area. Physical and nasty is proficient as a pass blocker showing good awareness to pickup stunts and games and stymie his man. His limitations are on the hoof but you can scheme around him as an anchor as Florida State proved. On to Round 3...
RE: Tre' Jackson closes out the Second Round  
Amtoft : 4/7/2015 11:29 am : link
In comment 12221245 Torrag said:
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Pats have a need at both OG spots and are very satisfied to have added a true mauler to the mix. Road grader that dominates in the short area. Physical and nasty is proficient as a pass blocker showing good awareness to pickup stunts and games and stymie his man. His limitations are on the hoof but you can scheme around him as an anchor as Florida State proved. On to Round 3...


Great pick. Best pure OG in this draft IMO. He was on my short list for my 2nd round pick and was by far my top player left.
Where would we all be...  
Modus Operandi : 4/7/2015 11:33 am : link
Without Amtoft's expert analysis? Good grief. Get a grip.
amtoft i was pleasantly surprised he was available this late  
Torrag : 4/7/2015 11:34 am : link
Some GM's may be scared off by perceived poor workouts but those familiar with him know what he is and isn't. BTW he is visiting new england this week I heard him talking on NFL AM and caught his spot before I switched it off as usual.
Amtoft's ball busting is a BBI mock draft tradition  
Andy in Halifax : 4/7/2015 11:36 am : link
It's part of the fun.
RE: Where would we all be...  
Amtoft : 4/7/2015 12:01 pm : link
In comment 12221294 Modus Operandi said:
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Without Amtoft's expert analysis? Good grief. Get a grip.


Ahhhh Him's sensitive about his pick. Why participate in the mock draft "discussion" thread if you can't handle people talking bad about your pick. Man up and dispute what I say if you want or ignore it I don't care. However calling me Nancy and whining about me being so mean to not agree with your assessment doesn't bother me. I find discussing this interesting and if you actually had a thought I would listen, but you don't. You just want to whine and that is fine, but I am not handing out free hugs today so I can't help with that.
RE: Amtoft's ball busting is a BBI mock draft tradition  
Amtoft : 4/7/2015 12:03 pm : link
In comment 12221302 Andy in Halifax said:
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It's part of the fun.


Here is the thing. How is saying I think Smith is a bad fit and a waste of a second round pick for Houston ball busting. They could have gone so many ways. This thread is a discussion thread and all I did was discuss the pick. I don't think I have been out of line yet.
BBI Mock Draft bringing the tough love today  
Torrag : 4/7/2015 12:03 pm : link
My Mom would tell you to play nice boys haha.
RE: amtoft i was pleasantly surprised he was available this late  
Amtoft : 4/7/2015 12:06 pm : link
In comment 12221297 Torrag said:
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Some GM's may be scared off by perceived poor workouts but those familiar with him know what he is and isn't. BTW he is visiting new england this week I heard him talking on NFL AM and caught his spot before I switched it off as usual.


I don't understand either. He was dominate as an OG and was by far the best in one on ones at the SR bowl. He is a player I would very much like to have if the Giants don't go OL in round 1. I would be happy with a second round selection of him and think he would be very good for us. To get him at the end of the 2nd is great value and a very good fit into NE's needs. Nothing better when value and talent match up
Speaking of Nate Orchard  
Mike in NY : 4/7/2015 12:15 pm : link
Tampa has less than 50 minutes until their pick is due and he would be the autopick. Someone e-mail Jay
Sorry guys I am here  
Jay on the Island : 4/7/2015 12:18 pm : link
picking in a few mins.
RE: Sorry guys I am here  
Amtoft : 4/7/2015 12:21 pm : link
In comment 12221406 Jay on the Island said:
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picking in a few mins.


No need for sorry... you still had plenty of time.
Having a mini run on offensive linemen with three in a row  
Torrag : 4/7/2015 12:24 pm : link
Marpet/Jackson/Smith...
I had to shore up the offensive line  
Jay on the Island : 4/7/2015 12:24 pm : link
I added Cann in the 2nd and now Smith in the 3rd to solidify the right side of the offensive line. Orchard and Paul Dawson were who I was deciding on but I had to go with Smith because of his size and ability. If Lovie Smith can get him to work hard and stay in shape Smith could be a pro bowl caliber RT which also is a huge need for Tampa.
Damn it...  
Amtoft : 4/7/2015 12:25 pm : link
Donovan Smith was the guy I wanted after Tre Jackson. He stood out to me as one of the last few OL available that could maybe work into playing first year. He is very under rated and has worked hard this off season. I think some of his sloppiness this year was playing at to high of a weight. He is down to like the 320's which is a good weight for him. If he continues to work hard I think he could be a big time starter. The only question I have on him is will he stop working so hard after the draft.
Mini run on OL  
Andy in Halifax : 4/7/2015 12:25 pm : link
and yet...
Some untapped WR talent and a couple of edge rushers...  
Torrag : 4/7/2015 12:28 pm : link
...still on the board.
Orchard... imo is GREAT value in 3.  
Andy in Halifax : 4/7/2015 12:35 pm : link
I would have been calling GM's 5 picks ago trying to trade up if it were allowed.
Orchard  
Mike in NY : 4/7/2015 12:41 pm : link
Was the guy who I was saying earlier stuck out at me going into today besides Rollins
Yup, Andy, seemed like a steal at 66.  
yatqb : 4/7/2015 12:42 pm : link
They need pass rushers so he seemed like a good fit.
I am not  
Amtoft : 4/7/2015 12:48 pm : link
sold on Orchard... If I was going to gamble on a DE/OLB like that I would go Hauoli Kikaha. To me he was much more dominate and comes with a lot of the same questions.
Donovan Smith is vastly talented  
Lionhart28 : 4/7/2015 12:59 pm : link
but lazy. Supposedly the PSU staff asked him not to return for his 5th year because they did not want his attitude around a young OL group. That being said, he has immense physical skills and seems to have finally been working hard this off-season. If he finally grows up and stays in shape, he could be a starting LT by year 2 and a dominant offensive lineman. I love the pick at this point, he was my highest ranked player for about 15 picks.
RE: I am not  
yatqb : 4/7/2015 1:03 pm : link
In comment 12221478 Amtoft said:
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sold on Orchard... If I was going to gamble on a DE/OLB like that I would go Hauoli Kikaha. To me he was much more dominate and comes with a lot of the same questions.


Amtoft, it was between those two for me, and in a sense it was a flip a coin choice. I just really love Orchard's initial burst.
Yat  
Torrag : 4/7/2015 1:13 pm : link
I'd have gone Orc hard as well. They have similar profiles with Orchard being healthy whereas Kikaha has had multiple ACL surgeries. If Kikaha didn't have the medical history it would be a coin toss situation imo
RE: RE: I am not  
Amtoft : 4/7/2015 1:17 pm : link
In comment 12221511 yatqb said:
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In comment 12221478 Amtoft said:


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sold on Orchard... If I was going to gamble on a DE/OLB like that I would go Hauoli Kikaha. To me he was much more dominate and comes with a lot of the same questions.



Amtoft, it was between those two for me, and in a sense it was a flip a coin choice. I just really love Orchard's initial burst.


I meant more for the Giants. I don't know about Orchard or Kikaha being able to play 4-3 DE, but that I thought Kikaha has the higher upside as a pass rushing specialist to me. In a 3-4 Def I would prefer Kikaha just because he has looked a little better in cover, but both are more up the field type. Orchard is very quick off the snap and an extremely high hustle player. I think he doesn't maintain that level of get off quickness through the play though. It will be a transition to move to OLB, but I think his quickness, ability to read the run, and hustle will let him be a good player. Not saying he was a bad pick at all, just for our Def the fit wasn't great for what I like in my DE's... although first step is huge and he is very quick.
RE: RE: Where would we all be...  
Modus Operandi : 4/7/2015 1:18 pm : link
In comment 12221359 Amtoft said:
[quote] In comment 12221294 Modus Operandi said:


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Without Amtoft's expert analysis? Good grief. Get a grip.



Ahhhh Him's sensitive about his pick. Why participate in the mock draft "discussion" thread if you can't handle people talking bad about your pick. Man up and dispute what I say if you want or ignore it I don't care. However calling me Nancy and whining about me being so mean to not agree with your assessment doesn't bother me. I find discussing this interesting and if you actually had a thought I would listen, but you don't. You just want to whine and that is fine, but I am not handing out free hugs today so I can't help with that.


"What would Amtoft do?"

- Says no one ever

I've already stated my reasoning for picking Smith several times. He was both BPA and fills a position HOU needs due to questions over Clowney. May not be an immediate need, but that's why you take the best player, imho.

You've offered nothing, apart from some specious junk about Smith not being a fit. Based on what exactly? What are your credentials, apart from being an insufferable prick through this entire process?

RE: Yat  
Amtoft : 4/7/2015 1:21 pm : link
In comment 12221532 Torrag said:
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I'd have gone Orc hard as well. They have similar profiles with Orchard being healthy whereas Kikaha has had multiple ACL surgeries. If Kikaha didn't have the medical history it would be a coin toss situation imo


He has played pretty much every game the last 2 years.... He put up 13 sacks as a DE in 2013 in 13 games and 19 sacks as a BUCK LB last year in 14 games. I understand he had 2 ACL's early, but has been fairly healthy the last 2 years. When watching the two Kikaha is the much more dominant player IMO. Not a good fit for the Giants unless we just want him as a pass rusher
JAX should have their pick shortly  
Matt G : 4/7/2015 1:35 pm : link
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RE: RE: RE: Where would we all be...  
Amtoft : 4/7/2015 1:39 pm : link
In comment 12221546 Modus Operandi said:
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Without Amtoft's expert analysis? Good grief. Get a grip.



Ahhhh Him's sensitive about his pick. Why participate in the mock draft "discussion" thread if you can't handle people talking bad about your pick. Man up and dispute what I say if you want or ignore it I don't care. However calling me Nancy and whining about me being so mean to not agree with your assessment doesn't bother me. I find discussing this interesting and if you actually had a thought I would listen, but you don't. You just want to whine and that is fine, but I am not handing out free hugs today so I can't help with that.


"What would Amtoft do?"

- Says no one ever

I've already stated my reasoning for picking Smith several times. He was both BPA and fills a position HOU needs due to questions over Clowney. May not be an immediate need, but that's why you take the best player, imho.

You've offered nothing, apart from some specious junk about Smith not being a fit. Based on what exactly? What are your credentials, apart from being an insufferable prick through this entire process?


So you response again was the same thing... Best player and may fill a need if Clowney doesn't make it even though Whitney Mercilus already has that roll. You want to have a conversation about why he isn't a good fit? He isn't strong enough or big enough to play inside at 3-4 DE and isn't nearly quick or fast enough to play 3-4 OLB. Can you even imagine him dropping in cover? He is a great fit as a 4-3 DE. If you were looking for a 3-4 OLB Kikaha would fit that much better, but again they don't need that. To me you don't waste a premium pick on a player that doesn't fit your system and will be 3rd string.

So me responding that the pick isn't good makes you get all butt hurt. I am so sorry I responded and made comments on a player you picked. I realize that only good comments should go towards you or no one should respond at all so you don't cry. My mistake to discuss a pick you made in a fake mock draft discussion thread.
I drafted Kurtis Drummond  
Kevin in CT : 4/7/2015 2:14 pm : link
He was a 2014 Big Ten Defensive Player of the Year. This is a very week free safety class but I had Drummond near the top of my board with a couple other players. I really think he has a chance to shine early on in the league. Drummond has great ball skills and is a natural leader. He needs to improve his tackling but with some proper coaching, he should not be a major liability.
RE: I drafted Kurtis Drummond  
Amtoft : 4/7/2015 2:19 pm : link
In comment 12221644 Kevin in CT said:
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He was a 2014 Big Ten Defensive Player of the Year. This is a very week free safety class but I had Drummond near the top of my board with a couple other players. I really think he has a chance to shine early on in the league. Drummond has great ball skills and is a natural leader. He needs to improve his tackling but with some proper coaching, he should not be a major liability.


great pick... he is the best FS in the draft IMO and really behind Collins as the second best safety. I expect him to go mid to late 2nd or early third at worst. He was a player I was really looking at.
I'm here  
Anakim : 4/7/2015 2:24 pm : link
Jon might be in mourning though
really wanted  
Amtoft : 4/7/2015 2:27 pm : link
an OL with one of my 2nd or 3rd round picks. I almost picked Tre Jackson in the 2nd, but couldn't pass up on Phillips. In the 3rd I was targeting Jackson as he fell and a player I thought would make it to me in Donovan Smith. I was very disappointed he went a few picks before mine. I couldn't justify reaching for my next top OL who I am very high on to bypass Langford. To me Langford is the most under rated RB in this draft. He runs with good power and plenty of speed. He also does what a lot of RBs in this draft don't and that is protect and catch the ball nicely.

The Raiders have 3 injury prone RBs that haven't fully shown they can handle being a full time RB. Langford I think gives them a viable option to compete for early playing time.
RE: really wanted  
YAJ2112 : 4/7/2015 2:30 pm : link
In comment 12221667 Amtoft said:
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an OL with one of my 2nd or 3rd round picks. I almost picked Tre Jackson in the 2nd, but couldn't pass up on Phillips. In the 3rd I was targeting Jackson as he fell and a player I thought would make it to me in Donovan Smith. I was very disappointed he went a few picks before mine. I couldn't justify reaching for my next top OL who I am very high on to bypass Langford. To me Langford is the most under rated RB in this draft. He runs with good power and plenty of speed. He also does what a lot of RBs in this draft don't and that is protect and catch the ball nicely.

The Raiders have 3 injury prone RBs that haven't fully shown they can handle being a full time RB. Langford I think gives them a viable option to compete for early playing time.


So you're using a premium pick on a 4th stringer????????
Really liking  
Amtoft : 4/7/2015 2:32 pm : link
Jacksonville's draft. Leonard Williams is the best player in the draft. Agholor is highly under rated and boarder line 1st rounder IMO. They then get the best FS in the draft. Nice job there. I would have loved this to be the Raiders draft honestly.
RE: RE: really wanted  
Amtoft : 4/7/2015 2:38 pm : link
In comment 12221673 YAJ2112 said:
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an OL with one of my 2nd or 3rd round picks. I almost picked Tre Jackson in the 2nd, but couldn't pass up on Phillips. In the 3rd I was targeting Jackson as he fell and a player I thought would make it to me in Donovan Smith. I was very disappointed he went a few picks before mine. I couldn't justify reaching for my next top OL who I am very high on to bypass Langford. To me Langford is the most under rated RB in this draft. He runs with good power and plenty of speed. He also does what a lot of RBs in this draft don't and that is protect and catch the ball nicely.

The Raiders have 3 injury prone RBs that haven't fully shown they can handle being a full time RB. Langford I think gives them a viable option to compete for early playing time.



So you're using a premium pick on a 4th stringer????????


No not at all... I clearly wrote that I think he will compete for early playing time. The Raiders top 3 RBs right now are Latavius Murray who is very unproven and always injured, Roy Helu who is a 3rd down back who is also always injured, and Trent Richardson who has been a complete bust since his first year in the league. I think that if TR can lose weight and put in a ton of work he can still be a full time player, but Helu is purely a 3rd down back and I am not expecting Murray to ever be able to handle a full load. Langford is much more durable and does everything well. I think he will be right there for starting, GL carries, and 3rd down back. He has a ton of talent and exactly what the Raiders need.

I wrote that incase you were serious and wanted a response. If you were just trying to make a joke or to rescue MO then you can disregard it.
RE: Really liking  
Kevin in CT : 4/7/2015 2:44 pm : link
In comment 12221679 Amtoft said:
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Jacksonville's draft. Leonard Williams is the best player in the draft. Agholor is highly under rated and boarder line 1st rounder IMO. They then get the best FS in the draft. Nice job there. I would have loved this to be the Raiders draft honestly.



Thanks, Amtoft. The benefit of having a team struggle year in and year out and having a early pick in each round certainly helps! I really like Drummond a lot, I did consider Randall from ASU but the tapes and numbers don't lie Drummond has the potential to be a great player sooner than later.
I'm here  
Jon in NYC : 4/7/2015 2:45 pm : link
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RE: RE: Really liking  
Amtoft : 4/7/2015 2:47 pm : link
In comment 12221688 Kevin in CT said:
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Jacksonville's draft. Leonard Williams is the best player in the draft. Agholor is highly under rated and boarder line 1st rounder IMO. They then get the best FS in the draft. Nice job there. I would have loved this to be the Raiders draft honestly.




Thanks, Amtoft. The benefit of having a team struggle year in and year out and having a early pick in each round certainly helps! I really like Drummond a lot, I did consider Randall from ASU but the tapes and numbers don't lie Drummond has the potential to be a great player sooner than later.


I completely agree about Drummond... I am praying he makes it to the Giants 3rd round pick. I am not high on Randall... kid isn't a very good tackler and I don't know if he can be a full time FS. I think he would be better served as a nickle safety. Same with Holloman also. They both fit into that roll for me and I wouldn't touch either with a 1-3 round draft pick.
Redskin pick will be up in a sec...  
SirYesSir : 4/7/2015 2:47 pm : link
just narrowing down 3 guys
RE: Redskin pick will be up in a sec...  
Amtoft : 4/7/2015 2:49 pm : link
In comment 12221693 SirYesSir said:
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just narrowing down 3 guys


Nice looks like 3 picks will come in right in a row. My pick was made much easier with Tre Jackson, Donovan Smith, and Kurtis Drummond coming off the board right before my pick. This round is where things get interesting... people have players rated all over the place from here on out.
I like Randall's athletic ability  
Kevin in CT : 4/7/2015 2:50 pm : link
He and Drummond are the best in terms of ball skills in my opinion. I downgraded Randall for the exact reason you gave. He is slight and may be better off being moved to corner in my opinion. He has some work to do but I think he has the potential to be a pretty good player in the long run.
just making a joke  
YAJ2112 : 4/7/2015 2:59 pm : link
:)
Redskin pick is in  
SirYesSir : 4/7/2015 3:03 pm : link
RB David Johnson, Northern Iowa

the team has several holes, and one of my primary concerns was initially the defensive backfield. I looked at several safeties and corners and just didn't see a player I ranked as highly as Johnson. (the addition of Goldson and Culliver also ease my mind a little...)

Johnson is a physical freak, rating above average in nearly every tested measurable for running backs. Runs a bit upright, but we've all seen guys with that trait do well in the league if they have the goods, and I believe Johnson does.

From a small school, but still stands as one of the most polished pass-catchers in the draft class. Has been compared in style to Matt Forte.

The skins have Morris, but we know the shelf life on running backs is brief, and Alfred may not fit the system Gruden is trying to put in place quite as well as he did under Shanhan in pistol, where most of Morris' success was realized.

Would have loved to take him in round 4, but doubted he would be there.
Just as a friendly FYI  
Andy in Halifax : 4/7/2015 3:20 pm : link
I will be drinking heavily starting about 15 mins before the Sens/Pens game tonight. If I'm up before then, I'll make my pick. Otherwise, I wouldn't expect anything before tomorrow morning.
I'm one that thinks Hundley has teh tools to be a very good QB  
Andy in Halifax : 4/7/2015 3:59 pm : link
Would be great for him to sit behind a QB and learn for a year or two - but I love his ability. I'm a UCLA guy though, so grain of salt and all that.
Bears obviously need a QB  
Anakim : 4/7/2015 3:59 pm : link
And Hundley can come in sooner rather than later. He also has some upside
RE: Just as a friendly FYI  
Mike in NY : 4/7/2015 4:00 pm : link
In comment 12221746 Andy in Halifax said:
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I will be drinking heavily starting about 15 mins before the Sens/Pens game tonight. If I'm up before then, I'll make my pick. Otherwise, I wouldn't expect anything before tomorrow morning.


Go Sens!
RE: I'm one that thinks Hundley has teh tools to be a very good QB  
Amtoft : 4/7/2015 4:05 pm : link
In comment 12221817 Andy in Halifax said:
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Would be great for him to sit behind a QB and learn for a year or two - but I love his ability. I'm a UCLA guy though, so grain of salt and all that.


I am not a huge fan of his, but that is mainly because he holds the ball to long. There is a reason UCLA gave up so many sacks. Yes the OL is not great, but some of that is Hundley's fault. Athletically he is very good and the potential is there to be really good. I like him better than the other QBs in this class after the top 2 and this is a steal to get him in the 3rd.
Hundley has some upside starting potential  
Torrag : 4/7/2015 4:09 pm : link
Nothing wrong with taking a shot on a guy like that in Round 3...
STL should be making their pick around 5pm  
Matt G : 4/7/2015 4:19 pm : link
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Thought  
Jon in NYC : 4/7/2015 4:43 pm : link
about Hudley at my pick, but it's a huge red flag when a quarterback's biggest issue is actually throwing the football.
Nice selection by the Rams with Prewitt  
Mike in NY : 4/7/2015 5:35 pm : link
He was the 2nd highest player remaining on my "board"
I may not love the options  
Andy in Halifax : 4/7/2015 5:39 pm : link
like, say, as much as I loved seeing Demarco Murray or Travis Frederick available in 3 during past drafts, but there are a LOT of guys still around with basically the same grade. Tons of options - probably too many for my pea brain!

Weird draft.
RE: I may not love the options  
Mike in NY : 4/7/2015 5:42 pm : link
In comment 12222018 Andy in Halifax said:
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like, say, as much as I loved seeing Demarco Murray or Travis Frederick available in 3 during past drafts, but there are a LOT of guys still around with basically the same grade. Tons of options - probably too many for my pea brain!

Weird draft.


Yep, although if I was the Giants and my first two picks went as you have it I have two guys I would be deciding between at this point and it really is a coin flip as both could potentially help the Giants
RE: RE: I may not love the options  
Mike in NY : 4/7/2015 5:44 pm : link
In comment 12222021 Mike in NY said:
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like, say, as much as I loved seeing Demarco Murray or Travis Frederick available in 3 during past drafts, but there are a LOT of guys still around with basically the same grade. Tons of options - probably too many for my pea brain!

Weird draft.



Yep, although if I was the Giants and my first two picks went as you have it I have two guys I would be deciding between at this point and it really is a coin flip as both could potentially help the Giants


And neither were selected by NoGainDayne. All I can say with you now on the clock is that it sucks to be you as I think half of BBI would be thrilled I took the guy I did over the other option and the other half would have wanted me to go with the second guy
Thrilled to have Jamora there  
NoGainDayne : 4/7/2015 5:51 pm : link
David Johnson was my target for round 3 but ATL needed pass rush help.

I view the two picks as hedges of each other, extremely productive pass rusher that might not have the physical talents for the NFL and physical specimen that might not be able to grasp the technique to be an effective pass rusher.

I saw at least one with a problem with the Hunter pick but I am very high on his potential. He led all SEC defensive linemen in "stuffs" (tackles for no gain or loss of yards) with 17 last year. He knows how to shed blockers against premium talent and has speed to close, I think with NFL coaching he can be an effective pass rusher, let's not forget that he only played 10 games in 2013 as a starter.

Jamora at the very least I see as a situational pass rusher this year, which the Falcons need desperately.
jamora?  
SirYesSir : 4/7/2015 5:56 pm : link
am I missing something?
Oops crossed some wires there haha  
NoGainDayne : 4/7/2015 6:07 pm : link
Jamora should say Kikaha
RE: jamora?  
Amtoft : 4/7/2015 6:17 pm : link
In comment 12222036 SirYesSir said:
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am I missing something?


Kikaha last name was Jamora until he changed it.
3 guys that all would fill a desperate need...  
Andy in Halifax : 4/7/2015 6:21 pm : link
Just sitting there for me...


But I'm going to gamble on upside.

I think Funchess could be a weapon in the slot.  
Andy in Halifax : 4/7/2015 6:24 pm : link
I even liked him at split end.

If nothing else, another red zone target.
RE: I think Funchess could be a weapon in the slot.  
Amtoft : 4/7/2015 6:34 pm : link
In comment 12222068 Andy in Halifax said:
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I even liked him at split end.

If nothing else, another red zone target.


See what happens when you drink to much! Actually I don't know what to make of Funchess... He isn't fast enough for WR and isn't big enough for TE, but he can play. He actually reminds me of Delanie Walker. I think a team will have to find a way to use him.
Sorry Andy  
jlukes : 4/7/2015 6:57 pm : link
But I hate the Funchess pick
+1 for 'Hate it'  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/7/2015 7:09 pm : link
Need and value align nicely at free safety, and you have to get cute and pick Winslow III Funchess. Phooey. Impeach Andy!
for the record  
Mike in NY : 4/7/2015 7:12 pm : link
Funchess wasn't one of my two
Andy's on a tweener fest  
SirYesSir : 4/7/2015 7:28 pm : link
OT/OG
LB/SS
WR/TE

I respect your draft history, but don't love this draft...but whadda I know?
RE: Andy's on a tweener fest  
Mike in NY : 4/7/2015 7:56 pm : link
In comment 12222147 SirYesSir said:
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OT/OG
LB/SS
WR/TE

I respect your draft history, but don't love this draft...but whadda I know?


Andy is prioritizing versatility
I had funchess as #2 on my board  
Jay in Saratoga : 4/7/2015 8:04 pm : link
but the guy I had ahead of him fills a bigger need for the Giants.

Funchess is still incredible value there IMO.
there is  
Amtoft : 4/7/2015 8:26 pm : link
No safety that is just standing out. Randall is not a full time FS to me. The guy can't tackle very well. He is a good nickel safety but I can't see him being a full time starter to be honest.
RE: RE: Andy's on a tweener fest  
SirYesSir : 4/7/2015 8:51 pm : link
In comment 12222202 Mike in NY said:
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OT/OG
LB/SS
WR/TE

I respect your draft history, but don't love this draft...but whadda I know?



Andy is prioritizing versatility



Maybe. But you can only play one position at a time. I still think tweener is a better term for Funchess and Thompson - their height/weight put them at a slight disadvantage in whichever position you choose for them.

Collins is built to play guard or tackle, but imo he looks better suited to play guard. Versatility might be a positive on the o-line, but I don't usually need my top ten pick to be able to play multiple spots - he should be a master of one.

Again, not trying to blast anyone, just my opinion...
RE: RE: really wanted  
Modus Operandi : 4/7/2015 9:06 pm : link
In comment 12221673 YAJ2112 said:
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an OL with one of my 2nd or 3rd round picks. I almost picked Tre Jackson in the 2nd, but couldn't pass up on Phillips. In the 3rd I was targeting Jackson as he fell and a player I thought would make it to me in Donovan Smith. I was very disappointed he went a few picks before mine. I couldn't justify reaching for my next top OL who I am very high on to bypass Langford. To me Langford is the most under rated RB in this draft. He runs with good power and plenty of speed. He also does what a lot of RBs in this draft don't and that is protect and catch the ball nicely.

The Raiders have 3 injury prone RBs that haven't fully shown they can handle being a full time RB. Langford I think gives them a viable option to compete for early playing time.



So you're using a premium pick on a 4th stringer????????


Exactly. Players are only reaches and/or picked out of position when other people make a pick.

When the Raiders make a pick (like a surplus RB), we've merely been granted a glimpse into the genius that is Amtoft. Only on his planet is Smith a lesser athlete - or "slower" than Kihaha, desspite having a faster forty, slicker 3-cone, and better broad jump (by a wide margin).

Nearly every scouting report on Smith lauds his strength at the POA. Some knock him for a lack of so-called quick twitch, suggesting he's ill suited as a 4-3 DE. But I guess thats part of the fun, projecting guys. Except when some tough guy appoints himself an expert, thanks to experience running a fictitious war room. Despite being wrong, like all the time. About everything.

Congrats, you've turned yourself into the Headhunter of football threads. But I guess that's just the butt hurt talking...



RE: RE: RE: really wanted  
Amtoft : 4/7/2015 9:21 pm : link
In comment 12222280 Modus Operandi said:
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an OL with one of my 2nd or 3rd round picks. I almost picked Tre Jackson in the 2nd, but couldn't pass up on Phillips. In the 3rd I was targeting Jackson as he fell and a player I thought would make it to me in Donovan Smith. I was very disappointed he went a few picks before mine. I couldn't justify reaching for my next top OL who I am very high on to bypass Langford. To me Langford is the most under rated RB in this draft. He runs with good power and plenty of speed. He also does what a lot of RBs in this draft don't and that is protect and catch the ball nicely.

The Raiders have 3 injury prone RBs that haven't fully shown they can handle being a full time RB. Langford I think gives them a viable option to compete for early playing time.



So you're using a premium pick on a 4th stringer????????



Exactly. Players are only reaches and/or picked out of position when other people make a pick.

When the Raiders make a pick (like a surplus RB), we've merely been granted a glimpse into the genius that is Amtoft. Only on his planet is Smith a lesser athlete - or "slower" than Kihaha, desspite having a faster forty, slicker 3-cone, and better broad jump (by a wide margin).

Nearly every scouting report on Smith lauds his strength at the POA. Some knock him for a lack of so-called quick twitch, suggesting he's ill suited as a 4-3 DE. But I guess thats part of the fun, projecting guys. Except when some tough guy appoints himself an expert, thanks to experience running a fictitious war room. Despite being wrong, like all the time. About everything.

Congrats, you've turned yourself into the Headhunter of football threads. But I guess that's just the butt hurt talking...




Hahaha ... you are still going on this. He was making a joke with that comment, but way to pay attention. I am not butt hurt at all. I don't get all bitter when someone makes a comment about my pick. Look at all the slack Andy is taking for his picks... does he start crying like you? No of course not. He takes the comments in strides and says why he picked them.

As for you comments about speed and strength at the POA... Smith doesn't play OLB and doesn't drop into coverage. Kikaha, despite your defining point of 40 times, has played the BUCK/OLB spot. He has dropped into coverage and is much better at that. He isn't nearly as strong at the POA. That is why he isn't a 4-3 DE. That is why I didn't draft him because the fit for a 4-3 DE isn't good. I understand now you don't understand fit. Are you saying Smith is faster in the 40 so he is better at cover so he is a OLB, but he is also strong at the POA so he is a 3-4 DE. Sadly he is neither because he is a 4-3 DE, but think what you want. All I did was state my opinion on your pick and you cried like a bitch. You continue to cry like a bitch. Sorry I didn't like your pick and apparently you do care about my opinion or you wouldn't keep trying to justify the crappy pick. Enjoy the rest of the draft as I will just ignore you.
I am surprised at all  
Amtoft : 4/7/2015 9:27 pm : link
the safeties that are being taken. I like Smith better than Randall though. I am surprised so many people like Randall.
c'mon, man  
Modus Operandi : 4/7/2015 9:48 pm : link
Is that all you took from my post?

I didn't only mention forty time. Smith is more fluid and explosive in every direction; and, he's heavier and stronger.

Is dropping back into coverage a strong suit? No, I don't imagine it is. I doubt very many college edge rushers are exceptionally adept at dropping into coverage. Doesn't mean they don't develop the skill or guys haven't ever transitioned from college end to OLB before.

I don't mind discussing the pick. But if you're going to be disingenuous, I'm through.
I almost  
SirYesSir : 4/7/2015 10:23 pm : link
took a safety at the Redskins pick, but narrowly chose the RB Johnson

my guy is still out there, which really surprises me.
Funchess ran very well at his Pro Day  
Torrag : 4/7/2015 11:14 pm : link
4.5 I believe which at 6'4" 225# is fast. I don't love his hands but he's not a butcher by any stretch of the imagination. He also provides us with a different dimension being a big target with a 67" wingspan. That's an elite catching radius and it shows up on tape. Andy I like the pick. It adds another weapon and he should be a load in the red zone.
Mike kinda hit my strategy  
Andy in Halifax : 4/7/2015 11:32 pm : link
I wanted guys that were versatile and, more importantly, guys that will help in important situations. Namely, 3rd down and red zone. I think I've done that so far. Plus, Funchess has an upside that I couldn't resist.

Jlukes hated my Demarco Murray pick in 3 a few years ago, so I'm calling this a win!
I'll get clevelands pick in  
Lionhart28 : 4/8/2015 12:01 am : link
by 10 tomorrow gents.
Very cool to read this mock with the members here  
montanagiant : 4/8/2015 2:20 am : link
A suggestion for Matt G: Why not archive this draft and revisit next year just prior to the 2016 BBI Mock draft?
my draft board for kc  
English Alaister : 4/8/2015 3:34 am : link
As I'm on the road a lot.

Paul Dawson, LB, TCU

Mario Edwards, DE, FSU

Tyler Lockett, WR, KSU

Kwon Alexander, LB, LSU
RE: Very cool to read this mock with the members here  
jlukes : 4/8/2015 8:18 am : link
In comment 12222584 montanagiant said:
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A suggestion for Matt G: Why not archive this draft and revisit next year just prior to the 2016 BBI Mock draft?


He does and posts results from all previous years prior to the start of the current years draft
Cleveland's pick is in  
Lionhart28 : 4/8/2015 9:47 am : link
Cleveland badly needs some young talent at the WR position with Josh Gordon's issues... However, thus far in the draft the talent has not matched up with the value. Now it finally does in Rashad Greene.

THR: "In spite of the fact that Rashad is slight of build, his excellent lateral agility and vision is a gift and makes it easy for him not to take the big hits other players take on crossing patterns and third down move the chains plays. This amazingly quick lateral agility is also the reason that I would feel comfortable selecting Rashad early in this draft. The teams that don’t recognize Rashad’s natural skills and talent not to take the big hit will pass on drafting Rashad early and just might be passing on a potential Pro Bowl receiver."

CBS: "Balanced athlete with natural body control and gliding speed. Very good foot quickness at the line of scrimmage and in his breaks to release and create separation. Sharp plant foot to quickly change directions in his routes and show the quarterback his numbers. Subtle patience, footwork and burst to set up his moves in single coverage. Very good feel in his routes to catch defenders off-guard. Savvy moves before and after the catch, controlling his momentum well. "
I'm heading into an 11am mtg...  
Matt G : 4/8/2015 10:43 am : link
Upcoming GMs have been emailed... Please go ahead and select BPA if NO doesn't show...
Great pick Lion! 49ers were looking hard at Greene here!  
Pete from Woodstock : 4/8/2015 10:46 am : link
Great value at this point in draft! Now we must go in another direction!
Nice pick
Thanks Pete  
Lionhart28 : 4/8/2015 11:13 am : link
I figure that Cleveland already has an excellent slot guy in Hawkins, theorhetically a possession receiver in Bowe (Hate him) and some young guys with talent (Benjamin). What they really need is a good reliable football player who can get open. He's not going to be a star, but he could be a ten year starter from day one.
Saints need a safety  
jlukes : 4/8/2015 11:26 am : link
so Damarious Randall FS Arizona State

has to be the pick
Made the autopick for the Saints  
jlukes : 4/8/2015 11:40 am : link
San Fran is now up
Nice pick with Dawson  
armstead98 : 4/8/2015 12:07 pm : link
I'm surprised he lasted this long.
RE: Nice pick with Dawson  
Mike in NY : 4/8/2015 1:01 pm : link
In comment 12223153 armstead98 said:
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I'm surprised he lasted this long.


Great player on the field, but combine did not match the production and he is a little undersized
Yawn.  
YAJ2112 : 4/8/2015 2:09 pm : link
It's been 2 days since my last pick and at this pace I might not pick again until Friday.
I'm ready to run to the podium  
armstead98 : 4/8/2015 2:10 pm : link
Cmon modus
Modus's clock expires at 2:53  
Mike in NY : 4/8/2015 2:23 pm : link
According to the sheet the top guy is Lorenzo Maudlin but that makes no sense because he took the same position in Round 2 and was excoriated over it. Skipping over him the next name on the list is Ifo Ekpre-Olomu. Although Houston went for Collins in Round 1 they do need DB help and Collins can also play FS so I think Ifo Ekpre-Olomu should be the pick if Modus doesn't show up
Call out thread?  
MadPlaid : 4/8/2015 2:24 pm : link
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Done...  
Chris in Philly : 4/8/2015 2:28 pm : link
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Pretty quiet today  
Lionhart28 : 4/8/2015 2:38 pm : link
not the usualy amount of draft banter...
Lion  
armstead98 : 4/8/2015 2:47 pm : link
My guess is because people don't have strong opinions of these day 2 players so there's less ability to debate these issues.
Man, I have a lot of players  
Lionhart28 : 4/8/2015 2:48 pm : link
I really like the board still.
Sorry to hold you up, boy  
Modus Operandi : 4/8/2015 2:50 pm : link
Didn't expect the last 5-10 picks to go so quickly. My pick is in.
RE: Modus's clock expires at 2:53  
Modus Operandi : 4/8/2015 2:51 pm : link
In comment 12223432 Mike in NY said:
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According to the sheet the top guy is Lorenzo Maudlin but that makes no sense because he took the same position in Round 2 and was excoriated over it. Skipping over him the next name on the list is Ifo Ekpre-Olomu. Although Houston went for Collins in Round 1 they do need DB help and Collins can also play FS so I think Ifo Ekpre-Olomu should be the pick if Modus doesn't show up


Right on the nose, Mike.
Lorenzo Mauldin  
armstead98 : 4/8/2015 2:54 pm : link
I was between Iko and Mauldin at 83 but when Iko went one pick before me, it was an easy decision.
RE: Man, I have a lot of players  
Mike in NY : 4/8/2015 2:55 pm : link
In comment 12223483 Lionhart28 said:
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I really like the board still.


Tell me about it. The guy who has been #1 on my board after Nate Orchard was selected is still there. I am going to be in a tough position if he is on the board when it gets to my pick for the Ravens, but with 3 picks each in Round 4 and Round 5 I may just do it
Leave it to CiPPY  
MadPlaid : 4/8/2015 3:21 pm : link
to post a hilariously appropriate picture of his selection.
Eagles select Josh Shaw...  
Chris in Philly : 4/8/2015 3:22 pm : link
We're comfortable that the background checks are clean. We think he can play both CB and FS, and we continue to rebuild the defensive backfield. We think he has a really high upside and believe he can flourish in our system with more advanced training and instruction.
Was really worried you were going to take who I was targeting  
jlukes : 4/8/2015 3:23 pm : link
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RE: Was really worried you were going to take who I was targeting  
Chris in Philly : 4/8/2015 3:28 pm : link
In comment 12223548 jlukes said:
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I had a hard time choosing between a few guys, and would have been happy with any of them. But I think this kid has a big upside and he's a little undervalued because of his little incident. I'm curious to see if yours is one of the ones I considered.
Nice pick Matt G  
sjnyfan : 4/8/2015 3:44 pm : link
I like Darby better than his counterpart Williams and believe he'll be a better pro. Getting him in the 3rd is good value.
Nice pick Matt  
Mike in NY : 4/8/2015 3:44 pm : link
Had 3 players on my short list for the Ravens at #90 and Darby was the third guy. The top guy on my list has been my highest ranked player since Nate Orchard was drafted and I am surprised he is still available
I like Darby better than Williams too.  
Andy in Halifax : 4/8/2015 3:59 pm : link
Great value in 3. Great pick imo.
Arizona picks Yeldon  
DCPollaro : 4/8/2015 4:26 pm : link
Thanks Matt for making my pick - was a bit tied up.
I was looking to hit RB this draft and was hoping Gurley fell to me in RD 1 but didnt, I passed on Gordon. Didnt like the value of RB in rd 2 but will gladly take TJ Yeldon here.

Torraq  
Jay on the Island : 4/8/2015 5:13 pm : link
that must be sweet having back to back picks coming up.
Does someone want to e-mail Pittsburgh  
Mike in NY : 4/8/2015 5:20 pm : link
He has 35 minutes or so left on his pick. Knowing Matt G's previous policy I will defer to him whether to autoselect or wait until 9 AM tomorrow since if Arizona's pick was made 8 minutes later he would have had until 9:01 AM
I've emailed him twice already...  
Matt G : 4/8/2015 5:24 pm : link
I'm tempted to wait even though we've slowed down a bit since Monday...
I'm fine with waiting  
YAJ2112 : 4/8/2015 5:26 pm : link
I'll have my pick ready for later or tomorrow morning, either way.
Gmen-in-SC is pretty good about getting his picks in...  
Matt G : 4/8/2015 5:29 pm : link
I think he's only had one auto-select since '07...
Sorry Fellas  
GMen-in-SC : 4/8/2015 5:39 pm : link
Work is insane. Softball practice was cancelled so I'll my pick in by 630
1? Slacker!  
Andy in Halifax : 4/8/2015 5:39 pm : link
I kid, I kid. I say wait.
Heath Miller is no spring chicken  
GMen-in-SC : 4/8/2015 7:14 pm : link
And his 2015 and 2016 salaries are not guaranteed. Drafting a TE to groom for a year might not seem like a wise decision for the premier 3rd round pick, but the long-term value was too good to pass up. Walfords blocking, his only downside, will improve significantly under the tutelage of the Steelers legend.
Pittsburgh takes my guy  
Mike in NY : 4/8/2015 7:14 pm : link
Since Orchard was drafted he was my BPA
a lot of great players came off  
Amtoft : 4/8/2015 8:20 pm : link
Seemed this round was chalked full of character concern guys that would have been drafted higher if not for those issues. Ekpre-Olomu being one with big talent... his last year slumped some but I also know they threw away from him a lot. I really like Shaw but man that kid has issues. I like that he owns up to it though. Then you have that scum Darby. One player I don't want the Giants taking.

2 players I am very high on and I was considering with the Raiders pick Rashad Greene and Gabe Wright who just went. Really like both those guys a lot.
RE: Eagles select Josh Shaw...  
Amtoft : 4/8/2015 8:22 pm : link
In comment 12223547 Chris in Philly said:
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We're comfortable that the background checks are clean. We think he can play both CB and FS, and we continue to rebuild the defensive backfield. We think he has a really high upside and believe he can flourish in our system with more advanced training and instruction.


Shaw has issues but he isn't Darby
What has Darby done? I didn't know he had issues  
Andy in Halifax : 4/8/2015 8:36 pm : link
other than refusing to testify (or whatever) against Winston in that school hearing. I didn't think he was involved in anything directly.

What did I miss?
RE: What has Darby done? I didn't know he had issues  
Chris in Philly : 4/8/2015 9:00 pm : link
In comment 12224008 Andy in Halifax said:
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other than refusing to testify (or whatever) against Winston in that school hearing. I didn't think he was involved in anything directly.

What did I miss?


I thought he was involved and that he threatened the alleged victim about reporting anything. I could be misremembering though.
RE: RE: What has Darby done? I didn't know he had issues  
Amtoft : 4/8/2015 9:47 pm : link
In comment 12224038 Chris in Philly said:
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In comment 12224008 Andy in Halifax said:


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other than refusing to testify (or whatever) against Winston in that school hearing. I didn't think he was involved in anything directly.

What did I miss?



I thought he was involved and that he threatened the alleged victim about reporting anything. I could be misremembering though.


That is how I remember it. He was a big part of how the situation was setup while also witnessing and protecting a scum. If he was protected by the school and was just some Joe Smoe he would be in prison. I hated Jeremy Hill last year also. Now doesn't mean he isn't talented.
All I know is...  
Chris in Philly : 4/8/2015 10:05 pm : link
I can't fucking wait to start a Fatman call out thread. I'm gonna roast that motherfucker like he's Justin Bieber.
RE: All I know is...  
Mike in NY : 4/8/2015 10:07 pm : link
In comment 12224132 Chris in Philly said:
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I can't fucking wait to start a Fatman call out thread. I'm gonna roast that motherfucker like he's Justin Bieber.


If he doesn't pick in the next half hour or so my pick will be made tomorrow
In a backhanded way..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/9/2015 8:03 am : link
I not only waited until this AM to make the pick, but i also got a jab in at CiP for his selection of Shaw.

Today is going to be a great day!
RE: In a backhanded way..  
Mike in NY : 4/9/2015 8:07 am : link
In comment 12224354 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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I not only waited until this AM to make the pick, but i also got a jab in at CiP for his selection of Shaw.

Today is going to be a great day!


Damn it he was the last guy on my short list so need to regroup
A triple bonus...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/9/2015 8:11 am : link
I need to go out and buy a lottery ticket!!
Mike..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/9/2015 8:31 am : link
The Panthers really went back and forth on Carter vs. Smith. I actually think Smith translates as a possible better player long term, but we took the safer choice.
If Wright had been gone for the Lions pick,  
YAJ2112 : 4/9/2015 8:34 am : link
I would have been looking at either Carter or Smith as well.
Ravens 3rd Round pick  
Mike in NY : 4/9/2015 8:44 am : link
Not quite ideal size, but is a playmaker at CB which Ravens need. 7 INT/13 PBU as a Junior but not targeted as much as a Senior. Showed flashes at Senior Bowl. Nice upside at this point
Started a callout for Rick in Dallas  
Matt G : 4/9/2015 9:21 am : link
He's one of the legacies who has not provided an email...
I am ready for my pick, assuming Rick in Dallas doesn't snake it  
jlukes : 4/9/2015 9:33 am : link
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I am so not ready with my pick  
MadPlaid : 4/9/2015 9:38 am : link
Ugh! My needs don't match the value available on the big board. Would it be crazy to take a player here who doesn't fulfill a need at all?
What I mean is  
MadPlaid : 4/9/2015 9:39 am : link
selecting BPA when my team is pretty good already at the position in question.
I'm here give me a couiple of minutes to catch up with the picks  
Rick in Dallas : 4/9/2015 9:40 am : link
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I haven't been looking much at CBs  
SwirlingEddie : 4/9/2015 9:42 am : link
but there seems to be some talent there in this draft.
RE: What I mean is  
Mike in NY : 4/9/2015 9:43 am : link
In comment 12224520 MadPlaid said:
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selecting BPA when my team is pretty good already at the position in question.


You are talking about a late 3rd Round pick here. Unless it is a player who will never get playing time and won't help on Special Teams you are at the point that you take the risk. The exception is QB where if you do not have a good back-up and a mid round QB is clearly BPA you take him even if he won't play
Cowboys selct Henry Anderson DE Stanford  
Rick in Dallas : 4/9/2015 9:51 am : link
The third round was tough for the Cowboys as we had 5 players get selected who are visiting the Cowboys in the next couple of weeks before the 91st pick. Anderson had a very strong week of practice at the Senior Bowl and flashed during the game. He fits the Cowboys 3-4 defense alignment and should play this year for the Cowboys.
Thanks, Mike  
MadPlaid : 4/9/2015 9:55 am : link
I'm just looking at the board, and the players who fit a need don't seem to be appropriate value here. I don't want to make a reach.
Complete value pick for the Broncos here  
jlukes : 4/9/2015 9:57 am : link
Lockett is one of my favorite WRs in the draft and I considered him in the 2nd round and took the chance that he would be there in the 3rd. Didn't realistically think he'd last, so I was I had a Center and a Defensive Tackle lined up in my #2 and #3 spots.

Lockett reminds me of Antonio Brown. He will make an impact immediately on punt and kick returns, and will push to start in the slot on day one for Denver.

His combination of football knowledge, route running, and athleticism is a perfect match for a QB like Peyton Manning.
jlukes  
MadPlaid : 4/9/2015 9:58 am : link
does it again. Picks the guy I had my eye on. Amazing knack.
RE: jlukes  
jlukes : 4/9/2015 10:06 am : link
In comment 12224582 MadPlaid said:
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does it again. Picks the guy I had my eye on. Amazing knack.


Haha I honestly thought CiP was going to pick him. Also didn't think he'd get past Carolina, Baltimore or Dallas. Dallas especially because they just came out and said they needed someone who was a gamebreaker on kicks
Yeah, I thought CiP was taking him too.  
Andy in Halifax : 4/9/2015 10:09 am : link
Good pick.
jlukes  
Mike in NY : 4/9/2015 10:09 am : link
I selected Devin Smith in Round 2 and Tyler Lockett I thought was too much of the same skill set
jlukes with a steal  
Torrag : 4/9/2015 10:10 am : link
At least ten lesser players have gone off the board imo before lukes stole your lunch money gentlemen.
jlukes  
MadPlaid : 4/9/2015 10:11 am : link
Yeah, I was surprised he lasted this long. Lockett was the reason I was having a struggle of conscience between obvious BPA and need. GB is loaded at WR. When was he going to see the field? As you pointed out, he's a good returner. It was enough to convince me to take him if he was there. I don't have to worry about that now. Thanks, buddy
Lockett  
Amtoft : 4/9/2015 10:39 am : link
has small hands. With smalls comes the normal issues... Dropped balls and fumbles. I really like the Alex Carter pick. He was in my top 3 left when selecting. I like a few other CBs while only a couple other RBs so I went with Langford. Carter is very under rated and I think will go in the second round.
I was seriously considering Carter too  
MadPlaid : 4/9/2015 10:41 am : link
I thought it would have been something to select two CB's in consecutive rounds.
Got my pick in this time  
Go Terps : 4/9/2015 11:09 am : link
I took Richburg last year and he looks good. Thought I'd take a similar player from the same OL this year.
I suspect...  
Chris in Philly : 4/9/2015 11:15 am : link
Kelly wouldn't take Lockett. I would, but I always try to err on the side of what the team would do. Kelly has a hard-on for tall WR's, and they already have a very good slot guy...
RE: Got my pick in this time  
yatqb : 4/9/2015 11:23 am : link
In comment 12224772 Go Terps said:
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I took Richburg last year and he looks good. Thought I'd take a similar player from the same OL this year.


Good pick, Terps.
Tartt was highest on my board.  
Andy in Halifax : 4/9/2015 11:37 am : link
Intriguing because he's one of the few bigger safeties that ran well.
This is where BPA outweighed need  
MadPlaid : 4/9/2015 11:41 am : link
Green Bay is set at S, so I wasn't really looking for one here in the 3rd round. I felt Tartt was the BPA. I couldn't justify reaching for a need position like ILB when I felt the talent didn't match the round. Anyway, Tartt can add some serious quality to the position and special teams, especially now with the imminent departure of one of its depth safeties to free agency.
I'll post my pick momentarily  
sjnyfan : 4/9/2015 11:43 am : link
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Tartt  
SirYesSir : 4/9/2015 11:53 am : link
is very interesting, and is the guy I almost took earlier in round 3.

Besides having the best Key&Peele name in the draft, hes probably the closest guy physically to Kam Chancellor in this draft, and has enormous traits that he brings to the position.

Small school guy, and appears a little stiff in coverage, he is certainly a plus "in the box" safety, and could be a special player if he can adapt to the faster pro game
I have back to back picks here  
Torrag : 4/9/2015 12:10 pm : link
Give me a few minutes to gather my thoughts...pick will be in shortly.
Torrag  
Matt G : 4/9/2015 12:13 pm : link
And another early in RD4
I'm real happy to get Flowers  
sjnyfan : 4/9/2015 12:15 pm : link
Not much depth behind Avril and Bennett at the position and Flowers game reminds me of Bennett. They have similar height and weight, play the run very well with some pass rush ability. I could see Flowers play inside on a few downs too.

Long arms, big hands and plays with power. Model citizen off the field too.
Grady Jarrett DT Clemson #96 to New England  
Torrag : 4/9/2015 12:26 pm : link
He's a powerful and disruptive penetrating DT. Plays with great pad level and leverages O-linemen really well. 30 TFL's over the last 3 seasons. Just a good tough football player.
RE: Grady Jarrett DT Clemson #96 to New England  
Mike in NY : 4/9/2015 12:29 pm : link
In comment 12224956 Torrag said:
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He's a powerful and disruptive penetrating DT. Plays with great pad level and leverages O-linemen really well. 30 TFL's over the last 3 seasons. Just a good tough football player.


Good value here. Had I not selected a 5T earlier he would have merited consideration for my pick at 90
Torrag  
MadPlaid : 4/9/2015 12:31 pm : link
I seriously considered Grady Jarrett for my 3rd round pick, but didn't pick him because everything I read said his ideal position is nose guard on a 4-3 D. The Patriots and Packers run the 3-4. In your research, did you find anything that indicated he could manage NT in a 3-4?
Jarett was my #3 option behind Lockett  
jlukes : 4/9/2015 12:36 pm : link
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Torrag  
English Alaister : 4/9/2015 12:38 pm : link
You have two picks. A compensatory straight after.

After you make it please can someone put me in for WR Justin Hardy of East Carolina or Jamison Crowder of Duke. Hardy is first preference. Thanks. I'm about to be out for a couple of hours.
Got it EA...  
Matt G : 4/9/2015 12:40 pm : link
Thx For checking in...
Mad  
Torrag : 4/9/2015 12:40 pm : link
The Pats are playing multiple fronts. Bill will use the talent he has in creative ways. I had him rated a lot higher than this so the value was too good to leave him on the board.
RE: Mad  
MadPlaid : 4/9/2015 12:48 pm : link
In comment 12225024 Torrag said:
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The Pats are playing multiple fronts. Bill will use the talent he has in creative ways. I had him rated a lot higher than this so the value was too good to leave him on the board.

I see. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Thank you
Chris Conley WR Georgia #97 to New England  
Torrag : 4/9/2015 12:49 pm : link
I love this guys game. He's under the radar because his stats aren't gaudy in Georgia's run heavy schemes. He can take the top off a defense effortlessly with elite speed. Size, explosion, hands, attitude. The Pats struggled to get downfield last season. Ranked only 25th in yards per reception. Deep speed and a vertical threat were missing. Not anymore. Mice highlight video attached for the curious.
Can you say steal? - ( New Window )
Conley was on my radar screen for the Cowboys in the 4th round  
Rick in Dallas : 4/9/2015 12:56 pm : link
Cowboys really like Conley who is scheduled for a pre draft visit. Frank Coyle ranks him as the number 15 WR in this year's class. Coyle said he is similar to Steve Johnson in skill set.

Nice pick....
thanks Rick  
Torrag : 4/9/2015 12:59 pm : link
I don't want to see Conley in the NFC East unless it's in a blue jersey.
Damnit Rick  
Lionhart28 : 4/9/2015 12:59 pm : link
I absolutely love Henry Anderson, I'd been staring at him for a while. Should be a great 5T.
thanks Lionheart28  
Rick in Dallas : 4/9/2015 1:02 pm : link
I was nervous he was going to be picked before I got a chance to draft him. He had a great senior bowl week. Should play a lot for the Cowboys.
I like Hardy to KC  
Mike in NY : 4/9/2015 1:13 pm : link
He is the type of WR that Andy Reid likes
Hardy has fantastic hands  
Torrag : 4/9/2015 1:17 pm : link
and can really spin DB's with his footwork. He's going to be a real asset in the slot.
RE: Hardy has fantastic hands  
Mike in NY : 4/9/2015 1:19 pm : link
In comment 12225144 Torrag said:
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and can really spin DB's with his footwork. He's going to be a real asset in the slot.


Can't wait to see who you go with right now for Pick #101
Man the end of that round  
Lionhart28 : 4/9/2015 1:23 pm : link
Killed my board. Also Rick, Boylhart is obsessed with Anderson. Have you read his report? Basically said he can be almost as good as JJ Watt. I think that's a stretch, but if he's half as good, that's a great pick.
pick in shortly  
Torrag : 4/9/2015 1:33 pm : link
sorry i was eating lunch and messing around on other threads
Yeah, Conley and Anderson were high on my wish list for 100 too.  
yatqb : 4/9/2015 1:55 pm : link
Great picks.
CB Senquez Golson Ole Miss #101 to New England  
Torrag : 4/9/2015 2:04 pm : link
Playmaking nickel corner with excellent production and hands. Confident, fast and shifty. Has 16 INT's and 31 PD's. He's physical in the run game despite his small frame. I had a lot of similar grades here and decided to go with the prospect that made the most impact plays. Slot corners are starters in today's NFL and Golson has starter traits and a hunger to succeed.
amtoft...  
Chris in Philly : 4/9/2015 3:05 pm : link
with an hour left! Fucker!
He has already taken 2 DL  
Mike in NY : 4/9/2015 3:07 pm : link
That makes me think someone like McCarthy is unlikely. Ty Montgomery is next on GBN list
Montgomery makes sense  
MadPlaid : 4/9/2015 3:13 pm : link
CiP? Call out thread time?
Alright Modus...  
Chris in Philly : 4/9/2015 3:41 pm : link
Get ready to pick for amtoft!
I think the Raiders are about to select a kicker  
MadPlaid : 4/9/2015 3:44 pm : link
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Are we in agreement  
Mike in NY : 4/9/2015 3:56 pm : link
That Ellis McCarthy should be bypassed in favor of Ty Montgomery?
Sorry, I'm scrambling for 4pm mtg...  
Matt G : 4/9/2015 3:56 pm : link
I emailed Amtoft... Not sure what happened to him... Please select BPA and move on... Thanks!
Ty  
Lionhart28 : 4/9/2015 3:56 pm : link
for sure
Yep 3 DL is extreme  
Torrag : 4/9/2015 3:57 pm : link
...
Oakland was awarded Ty Montgomery  
Mike in NY : 4/9/2015 4:00 pm : link
Jacksonville is now on the clock
Hehehe!  
MadPlaid : 4/9/2015 4:02 pm : link
Amtoft is going to love drafting a Stanford alum.
O/U on Amtoft meltdown time?  
Lionhart28 : 4/9/2015 4:06 pm : link
I am setting it at 4:38
RE: O/U on Amtoft meltdown time?  
Chris in Philly : 4/9/2015 4:07 pm : link
In comment 12225663 Lionhart28 said:
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I am setting it at 4:38


Under!
that's the rules  
Mike in NY : 4/9/2015 4:13 pm : link
BPA according to list made no sense so we went to #2 who did even if it is not who Amtoft may have taken
Incoming...duck  
Rick in Dallas : 4/9/2015 4:15 pm : link
this should be entertaining...
hey I'm really sorry guys....  
Amtoft : 4/9/2015 4:22 pm : link
First time missing a pick ever. Sorry to make everyone wait
I'm  
Jon in NYC : 4/9/2015 4:35 pm : link
here. Gimme a few plz.
You  
Jon in NYC : 4/9/2015 4:43 pm : link
know I had to walk out of here with a Badger.
RE: O/U on Amtoft meltdown time?  
Amtoft : 4/9/2015 5:32 pm : link
In comment 12225663 Lionhart28 said:
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I am setting it at 4:38


FYI I don't ever melt down. I am always cool, but people get angered by my choice of return words. I don't get all bitter about what someone says on a message board. That being said why would I be upset that I made a mistake. Rules are rules and I missed my pick. I wouldn't melt down I would feel bad because A) people had to wait and B) auto picks suck
Good value at this point, Jon  
Lionhart28 : 4/9/2015 5:34 pm : link
I had him on my small board.
Amtoft  
Lionhart28 : 4/9/2015 5:34 pm : link
I was joking about you getting a Stanford player.
RE: Hehehe!  
Amtoft : 4/9/2015 5:42 pm : link
In comment 12225656 MadPlaid said:
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Amtoft is going to love drafting a Stanford alum.


I actually really like Montgomery... Very talented think bodied WR. Has some injury concerns and isn't great in straight line speed, but has very quick feet. He was everything for Standford when healthy. I also liked Alex Carter. It isn't their fault they were stuck a horrible school like Stanford because they couldn't get into Cal.
RE: Good value at this point, Jon  
Jon in NYC : 4/9/2015 5:44 pm : link
In comment 12225855 Lionhart28 said:
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I had him on my small board.


Thank you sir.
RE: Amtoft  
Amtoft : 4/9/2015 5:44 pm : link
In comment 12225857 Lionhart28 said:
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I was joking about you getting a Stanford player.


Ohhhh duh... Sorry being stupid. Thought you meant because I have a ummm lets say habit for getting into disagreements with people. I wouldn't have missed my pick if that jerk face Chris would have poked me on Facebook!
The player  
Amtoft : 4/9/2015 5:50 pm : link
I really wanted Daryl Williams. Great pick by Matt. I was very close to reaching for him in the 3rd. He is very under rated IMO. If he is there in the 4th I hope the Giants take him. Was hoping he was not being thought of on this site. The one thing I really wanted in this draft was an OL starter in the first 3 rounds and missed my opportunity with each pick as the players I really liked were picked right before my picks
Amtoft  
Lionhart28 : 4/9/2015 5:58 pm : link
I actually had him and Jon's Wisky guy on my small board. I figured the Browns could use some competition with the exceedingly mediocre Schwartz at RT.
Washington pick  
SirYesSir : 4/9/2015 6:18 pm : link
on the way in a moment
RE: RE: Amtoft  
Chris in Philly : 4/9/2015 6:35 pm : link
In comment 12225877 Amtoft said:
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In comment 12225857 Lionhart28 said:


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I was joking about you getting a Stanford player.



Ohhhh duh... Sorry being stupid. Thought you meant because I have a ummm lets say habit for getting into disagreements with people. I wouldn't have missed my pick if that jerk face Chris would have poked me on Facebook!


Dude I'm on Facebook about as often as Fatman changes his underwear!
ew  
MadPlaid : 4/9/2015 6:38 pm : link
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RE: RE: RE: Amtoft  
Amtoft : 4/9/2015 6:47 pm : link
In comment 12225951 Chris in Philly said:
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In comment 12225877 Amtoft said:


Quote:


In comment 12225857 Lionhart28 said:


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I was joking about you getting a Stanford player.



Ohhhh duh... Sorry being stupid. Thought you meant because I have a ummm lets say habit for getting into disagreements with people. I wouldn't have missed my pick if that jerk face Chris would have poked me on Facebook!



Dude I'm on Facebook about as often as Fatman changes his underwear!


I dont think you are on that much. Lets not get crazy here.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Amtoft  
Amtoft : 4/9/2015 6:50 pm : link
In comment 12225984 Amtoft said:
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In comment 12225951 Chris in Philly said:


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In comment 12225877 Amtoft said:


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In comment 12225857 Lionhart28 said:


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I was joking about you getting a Stanford player.



Ohhhh duh... Sorry being stupid. Thought you meant because I have a ummm lets say habit for getting into disagreements with people. I wouldn't have missed my pick if that jerk face Chris would have poked me on Facebook!



Dude I'm on Facebook about as often as Fatman changes his underwear!



I dont think you are on that much. Lets not get crazy here.


Oh wait damn it... i got that backwards... i can't even insult properly today. Can i get anything right
Redskins pick is in  
SirYesSir : 4/9/2015 7:02 pm : link
taking Penn St. Safety Adrian Amos. Has played corner as well, so offers some versatility.

Redskins through 4 rounds:

Vic Beasley, Clemson OLB
Eric Kendricks, USC ILB
David Johnson, Northern Iowa RB
Adrian Amos, Penn St S
if he doesn't go in the next two picks  
Mike in NY : 4/9/2015 7:06 pm : link
I know who I would select for the Giants
SYS  
sjnyfan : 4/9/2015 7:17 pm : link
Solid draft
I'm here  
Anakim : 4/9/2015 8:13 pm : link
Let me see who's left


We are breezing through!
Like the Hroniss Grasu pick  
Matt G : 4/9/2015 8:44 pm : link
Guy gets down field quickly...
Dammit Anak!!!!  
Chris in Philly : 4/9/2015 9:39 pm : link
!
Atlanta (NoGainDayne) is on the clock  
Mike in NY : 4/10/2015 6:47 am : link
Followed by Andy in Halifax with the Giants. I know who I would take but I hope Andy is not hungover from the Sens game last night
Little foggy this morning Mike.  
Andy in Halifax : 4/10/2015 7:42 am : link
Probably won't make me any worse though!
Emails sent to Atlanta (NoGainDayne)  
Matt G : 4/10/2015 9:29 am : link
last night and again this am...
I'm around all day and will post pretty quickly  
Andy in Halifax : 4/10/2015 10:11 am : link
Just gotta pick a guy now.
Im around, I'll be ready for  
Lionhart28 : 4/10/2015 10:12 am : link
111 and 115
I'll probably be driving when Minnesota comes up  
Jay in Saratoga : 4/10/2015 10:14 am : link
i emailed Matt my board. Go ahead and post my pick right away.
Jay you'd better not take one of my guys  
Lionhart28 : 4/10/2015 10:16 am : link
!!
I like the Bears' draft.  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/10/2015 10:24 am : link
Nice alignment of value and need, with a QB in the third round who seems to have starter potential. Not sure about Davis at #39; does he add enough to the pass rush? Still, DL there was a priority.

Andy's pick will be interesting. He has painted himself into a corner at FS. Does he reach here (Holliman/Eskridge), or hope the stars align for him in a later round?
BBB  
Lionhart28 : 4/10/2015 10:26 am : link
Maybe, he could also look at DE like Markus Golden here.
RE: BBB  
Mike in NY : 4/10/2015 10:31 am : link
In comment 12226828 Lionhart28 said:
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Maybe, he could also look at DE like Markus Golden here.


Golden I am not sure in a 4-3 scheme. Za'darius Smith is a nice value here for the Giants
I have a meeting at 11:30  
sjnyfan : 4/10/2015 10:32 am : link
but I'm going to try like hell to make sure I get my pick in before my time would be up. If it's looking unlikely, I'll send you an email Matt.
Atlanta's pick  
Mike in NY : 4/10/2015 10:34 am : link
Ellis McCarthy is BPA according to the GBN list and I see no reason to deviate as they do need DL help and the other defensive players they took were OLB's in their 3-4 scheme
You should know me better than that!  
Andy in Halifax : 4/10/2015 10:34 am : link
I never reach for need. Never. I am a VALUE drafter.

I will virtually always go BPA but I value certain positions over others because I feel they are more important and that is reflected in my picks.

I also give small consideration to roster opportunity - who will have an opportunity to see the field and contribute. Who will provide the most value. That may sound a lot like need - but I still maintain I will not pick a player because I have a hole on the roster unless that player figures the be the player that adds the most value to the team.

The player I pick will be the guy I feel will have contributed the most to the team over the next 8 years.


Especially later rounds, I basically watch a player and ask "can that guy contribute in the NFL"
I'm sure they'll love Smith's size  
Lionhart28 : 4/10/2015 10:34 am : link
6'4" 274. Could also grab a TE like James or O'Leary.
When I picked smith last round  
Jay in Saratoga : 4/10/2015 10:41 am : link
the player I had next on my board is still available.

If he makes it a few more picks I end up with both.
Z.Smith does look more like a Giant pick than M.Golden.  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/10/2015 10:54 am : link
Then again, Andy seems committed to a BTA ("Best 'Tweener Available") Strategy, which would point toward Golden.

Atlanta has needs everywhere, and McCarthy would be a defensible pick, with Soliai well on the wrong side of 30. I don't think many Boards have McCarthy rated as high as Colin does, though. If I were Atlanta, I'd look seriously at RB or WR here.
Rules are rules  
Mike in NY : 4/10/2015 10:57 am : link
According to the master list McCarthy is BPA even if he is rated lower elsewhere. It would be different if Atlanta had taken multiple DL already like we saw with Oakland
I have a better tweener than Golden ready!  
Andy in Halifax : 4/10/2015 11:04 am : link
Actually, I'm 50/50 between 2 guys and think I'm leaning towards a decidedly NON-TWEENER.

Maybe all my instincts will take over though and I'll go with the tweener!

Mike in NY: Agreed - McCarthy is the pick  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/10/2015 11:06 am : link
I think the next six players on the GBN board might be better choices for the Falcons, but rules are rules.
I think need and value actually match up decently well at DB  
Eric on Li : 4/10/2015 11:11 am : link
Holliman and Harris are both guys with excellent ball skills - which is a skill set not exactly on the roster already. Harris seems to fit as more of a team captain type, though he looks a little limited athletically in the games I've seen him but ran a decent time at the combine (4.5). Even going back to HS in Miami Holliman has been a guy with a lot of talent but questionable toughness. Jacoby Glenn as another DB option with really good length and ball skills. Haven't seen S. Nelson play but he's also rated highly and has pretty impressive combine #'s.
I like Nelson  
Andy in Halifax : 4/10/2015 11:19 am : link
I had him and another guy as the last in my mid 3rd round tier (75 - 100 on my list). Actually both were pretty close to 75 so I am pleased with my value.
The last 15 picks or so...  
Chris in Philly : 4/10/2015 11:20 am : link
have taken a giant dump on my board...
Nelson seems like a solid pick in the 4th.  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/10/2015 11:20 am : link
No complaints there.
Nelson handled Jalen Strong really well  
Andy in Halifax : 4/10/2015 11:20 am : link
Strong had 2 big plays, both where they moved him away from Nelson. Nelson won that match-up convincingly.

Nelson also shined at the senior bowl.
I like everything I've read about Nelson  
Eric on Li : 4/10/2015 11:23 am : link
just haven't seen him play much. All around solid 4 picks, and actually the more I think about them the more they fit with the way the Giants have picked in the past.
Jay in Saratoga  
Matt G : 4/10/2015 11:28 am : link
I have your board, but wanted to give you a chance to post it as you seem active... I will wait a few mins...
Thrilled to get Harrison here  
Jay in Saratoga : 4/10/2015 11:36 am : link
he was the next player on my board after smith last round. Incredible physical attributes and should be an immediate plus player in pass protection.
Nice pick on Nelson  
Lionhart28 : 4/10/2015 11:48 am : link
he was in my top 5, really like what i've seen on him.
Pick coming shortly  
Lionhart28 : 4/10/2015 11:49 am : link
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Damn Jay!  
Pete from Woodstock : 4/10/2015 11:51 am : link
the 9ers were hoping he'd slip down to them on their next pick! Nice grab..
Seem to be some conflicting reports on Wilson  
Lionhart28 : 4/10/2015 11:54 am : link
but most have him in the 2-4 round discussion. Played in a 3-4 at Georgia and can really thump the run sideline to sideline. Decent size, but will probably add 10 lbs or so in the NFL game. The Browns were atrocious against the run last year and with an aging Carlos Dansby and a tiny Craig Robertson lining up in the middle, they could really use another good young player (alongside last years pick of Christian Kirksey). He could still use some improvement in coverage, but most college ILBs can.
Come on...  
Chris in Philly : 4/10/2015 12:00 pm : link
sjny! Don't screw me now!
I was wondering about Harrison.  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/10/2015 12:02 pm : link
Reports on him are all over the map: Million-dollar talent who would rather be playing basketball? Not a bad gamble in the fourth round.
RE: I was wondering about Harrison.  
Chris in Philly : 4/10/2015 12:03 pm : link
In comment 12227054 Big Blue Blogger said:
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Reports on him are all over the map: Million-dollar talent who would rather be playing basketball? Not a bad gamble in the fourth round.


And can clean up in those Giants vs teachers basketball games...
I had come to terms with the gamble in the 3rd  
Jay in Saratoga : 4/10/2015 12:08 pm : link
more than ok with it in the 4th
RE: Come on...  
sjnyfan : 4/10/2015 12:12 pm : link
In comment 12227047 Chris in Philly said:
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sjny! Don't screw me now!


lol, CIP. Gotcha covered!
Damn  
Matt G : 4/10/2015 12:12 pm : link
Campbell was #2 on my short list...
Chip Kelly...  
Chris in Philly : 4/10/2015 12:16 pm : link
loves tall receivers and versatile players. Tony Lippett fits the bill. Some of our scouts think he may even be a better CB than WR. But we are counting on him as a big target with Jordan Matthews, Sammie Coates, and Riley Cooper.
Nice pick, CIP  
Lionhart28 : 4/10/2015 12:22 pm : link
Lippett is going to be a good NFL player. Several year starter, great #2.
Miami checkin in  
Optimus-NY : 4/10/2015 12:26 pm : link
Pick is coming right up in a few minutes mongos
Nice pick  
armstead98 : 4/10/2015 12:36 pm : link
Grant was top 2 on my board.
Ramik Wilson Scouting Report  
Lionhart28 : 4/10/2015 12:37 pm : link
from our very own SY via Ourlads...

"Fourth year senior and two year starter. Led the SEC in tackles in 2013. Wilson is a superb athlete for the position, showing elite lateral range and more than enough short area pop. He is a smart run defender that loves to chase down the action. His athleticism and ability to finish off a play would be a great fit for the WILL position in 4-3 schemes. He hasn’t been a big presence against the pass, as he doesn’t process information as quickly, however he is still a true three down linebacker with a lot of upside. He may need some times to enhance his lower body strength, but Willson has a lot of tools that teams look for in starting linebackers."
Ourlads Link - ( New Window )
RE: Nice pick  
Optimus-NY : 4/10/2015 12:40 pm : link
In comment 12227131 armstead98 said:
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Grant was top 2 on my board.


Thanks. Kid's a leader. Miami is rumored to be interested in him too.


Doran Grant, the Reserved and Talented Cornerback, Stresses Leadership Qualities at NFL Combine By Patrick Maks on February 23, 2015 at 8:35a - ( New Window )
Grant...  
Chris in Philly : 4/10/2015 12:44 pm : link
was on my very short list as well...
My pick is in  
Lionhart28 : 4/10/2015 12:51 pm : link
As I mentioned before, Cleveland's run defense was atrocious last year. Would have looked at McCarthy had he been there at 111, but he wasn't. Walton is a raw kid but a great athlete for his size (6'5" 320) with some explosiveness to his game. We think he can grow into a really solid 5 technique.
I have to head out in an hour  
armstead98 : 4/10/2015 12:57 pm : link
How long is Modus on the clock for? If it's more than an hour I'll send my picks to Matt.
RE: I have to head out in an hour  
Mike in NY : 4/10/2015 1:03 pm : link
In comment 12227186 armstead98 said:
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How long is Modus on the clock for? If it's more than an hour I'll send my picks to Matt.


The clock is two hours from the last selection, but Modus may pick sooner so I advise hanging around if it is getting close to when you have to leave e-mail Matt
Thanks Mike  
armstead98 : 4/10/2015 1:08 pm : link
I'll sit tight for now and send my picks before I head out.
Email was sent to Modus Operandi  
Matt G : 4/10/2015 1:57 pm : link
Looks like he's been off since this am...
If Modus is not around  
Mike in NY : 4/10/2015 2:10 pm : link
GBN list dictates Josh Harper as the pick and I see no reason to bypass
RE: I like the Bears' draft.  
Anakim : 4/10/2015 2:10 pm : link
In comment 12226824 Big Blue Blogger said:
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Nice alignment of value and need, with a QB in the third round who seems to have starter potential. Not sure about Davis at #39; does he add enough to the pass rush? Still, DL there was a priority.



Merci!
Bumpy start to RD4  
Matt G : 4/10/2015 2:13 pm : link
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RE: Bumpy start to RD4  
Mike in NY : 4/10/2015 2:17 pm : link
In comment 12227321 Matt G said:
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This is when the pace usually starts slowing down. Was hoping to get my Round 5 picks in before I go out of town from the 17th-19th although I will have my cell phone to make picks
I hope we don't slow down too much  
MadPlaid : 4/10/2015 2:40 pm : link
I'm really looking forward to the 6th round for a change. I have 3 picks!
Looks like Modus is active now..  
Matt G : 4/10/2015 2:42 pm : link
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RE: RE: Bumpy start to RD4  
Matt G : 4/10/2015 2:46 pm : link
In comment 12227335 Mike in NY said:
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This is when the pace usually starts slowing down. Was hoping to get my Round 5 picks in before I go out of town from the 17th-19th although I will have my cell phone to make picks

Last year, we only had two auto-selections before RD5
Yeah, this year hasn't been so good at avoiding the auto pick  
MadPlaid : 4/10/2015 2:50 pm : link
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KC Chiefs GM was active recently  
Mike in NY : 4/10/2015 3:18 pm : link
And usually sends in a board so someone may want to e-mail him ASAP to let him know he is on the clock
Matt..  
Modus Operandi : 4/10/2015 3:18 pm : link
Sorry was about to make my pick. Was torn between two players. Any chance I can still make my selection?
Nevermind.  
Modus Operandi : 4/10/2015 3:20 pm : link
Didn't realize Id been on the clock since 2pm. Sorry to slow you boys down.
Even though Modus may take someone on my list  
Mike in NY : 4/10/2015 3:21 pm : link
Unless Josh Harper was the top choice of San Diego I have no objection but will let the commish decide
If you get it in before KC  
Matt G : 4/10/2015 3:22 pm : link
and it wasn't the player that SD selected, then yes...
The player I was going to take  
Modus Operandi : 4/10/2015 3:23 pm : link
Has not yet been selected, but it's fine if Matt wants to keep moving. I get it.
Good enough of you Matt  
Modus Operandi : 4/10/2015 3:25 pm : link
Houston selects Darren Waller, WR, Georgia Tech.
I would rather you get it in...  
Matt G : 4/10/2015 3:26 pm : link
But only if it's in prior to KC's selection... At that point, we have to move on...
Modus  
MadPlaid : 4/10/2015 3:26 pm : link
It might be better to make your selection on the Selection thread. No worries.
Please post on SELECTIONS thread  
Matt G : 4/10/2015 3:27 pm : link
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Done  
Modus Operandi : 4/10/2015 3:29 pm : link
Thanks Matt.
If Kansas City (English Alaister) misses their pick,  
Matt G : 4/10/2015 3:55 pm : link
the selection is *Kwon Alexander, LB, LSU... He's been providing me with periodic "short lists" throughout but hasn't checked in with me for this pick... Alexander is the highest/only remaining player that I have from him...

I'm heading out soon, but someone please post the pick at 5pm as St. Louis (BigBlueTT) is waiting to make their pick... I will post my pick for Cincinnati shortly thereafter...
Matt  
MadPlaid : 4/10/2015 3:57 pm : link
I'll take care of it if EA doesn't come on by 5.
Thanks MadPlaid  
Matt G : 4/10/2015 4:01 pm : link
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UNfortunate timing I guess  
Andy in Halifax : 4/10/2015 4:09 pm : link
Looks like EA was posting just minutes before he was OTC.
Andy  
MadPlaid : 4/10/2015 4:16 pm : link
yep
5pm  
MadPlaid : 4/10/2015 5:00 pm : link
Time to pick for English Alaister
Sorry dudes  
English Alaister : 4/10/2015 5:23 pm : link
True story...broke my ankle on holiday in Italy. Fell down some fucking steps on a cobbled Street but left my ankle behind. Thought I had a couple of hours when I checked in as two picks pending but guess they went fast. I'll live with Alexander even though we have Dawson. He has wheels.

For the record I would have gone Javorious Allen.
since the next pick has not been made  
Mike in NY : 4/10/2015 5:31 pm : link
We can change
That would be ideal  
English Alaister : 4/10/2015 5:35 pm : link
I'll post it
see you beat me to it  
English Alaister : 4/10/2015 5:36 pm : link
Thanks Mike!
RE: see you beat me to it  
Mike in NY : 4/10/2015 5:46 pm : link
In comment 12227720 English Alaister said:
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Thanks Mike!


You're welcome!
English Alaister  
MadPlaid : 4/10/2015 6:12 pm : link
Yikes, so sorry to hear about your ankle. While on holiday too, what a bummer. Hope you feel better soon. Best
EA...  
Chris in Philly : 4/10/2015 7:23 pm : link
Holiday? Say vacation or we're gonna kick your asses like its 1776 all over again!
It's just a flesh wound, honestly.  
Andy in Halifax : 4/10/2015 8:01 pm : link
Nothing to write home about.
I'm out of pocket tomorrow...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/10/2015 9:55 pm : link
so I sent Matt two choices for the next pick since only one could possibly get snapped up.
Damn it, Mike!  
MadPlaid : 4/11/2015 12:03 am : link
You selected my TE. Figures that the round jlukes doesn't have a pick, someone else steps in to do the deed. Fuckity fuck fuck fuck!!!

Nice pick. Heuerman is good value there.
Cowboys select Stephon Diggs WR in 4th round  
Rick in Dallas : 4/11/2015 6:06 am : link
Fast rising WR in a deep WR class with size,speed and good hands to join Cowboys WR group. Honestly surprised he wasn't already selected before my turn. Ranked as 13th best WR by Frank Coyle.
RE: Damn it, Mike!  
Mike in NY : 4/11/2015 6:25 am : link
In comment 12228314 MadPlaid said:
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You selected my TE. Figures that the round jlukes doesn't have a pick, someone else steps in to do the deed. Fuckity fuck fuck fuck!!!

Nice pick. Heuerman is good value there.


Each of my picks this round were followed by another player at the same position so I figured I annoyed someone. Dennis Pitta is injured a lot and has a high salary so I figured that with the Ravens cap woes taking Heuerman could make it easier to part ways with Pitta. Had EA not showed up I was originally planning Javouris Allen with this pick (I figured Arizona and Carolina would pass having already taken a RB so no rush at 122 when I could get at 125). Now don't you get revenge by taking the guy I am looking at with my compensatory pick to end the round
Mike  
MadPlaid : 4/11/2015 7:35 am : link
If I could read minds, your guy would be toast! :-p
RE: Mike  
Mike in NY : 4/11/2015 7:54 am : link
In comment 12228500 MadPlaid said:
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If I could read minds, your guy would be toast! :-p


You pick ahead of jlukes this round. Take his guy instead
Might be a little early for Spencer  
Go Terps : 4/11/2015 9:43 am : link
But I don't care. This guy was the best player I saw on Ohio State in the playoff games. He caught the ball, blocked, even threw the ball. I think he's got Hines Ward written all over him. Kind of guy that should just wear a plus sign instead of a number on his jersey.
Mike  
MadPlaid : 4/11/2015 9:55 am : link
I'm not making any promises
RE: Might be a little early for Spencer  
Mike in NY : 4/11/2015 10:03 am : link
In comment 12228596 Go Terps said:
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But I don't care. This guy was the best player I saw on Ohio State in the playoff games. He caught the ball, blocked, even threw the ball. I think he's got Hines Ward written all over him. Kind of guy that should just wear a plus sign instead of a number on his jersey.


Congrats on being the first person this year to select someone from the "Other Available Prospects" list! One pick earlier and you could have had Diggs
RE: Mike  
Mike in NY : 4/11/2015 10:17 am : link
In comment 12228604 MadPlaid said:
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I'm not making any promises


Thanks for taking Kroft. After landing the TE that I did I doubt I will take another this draft
Pick is in  
MadPlaid : 4/11/2015 10:18 am : link
I doubt he was your guy, Mike, but he could have been jlukes. Suck it!


Anyway, Kroft is very good value here at the end of the 4th round. The Pack were looking to add to this position. They addressed it last year, but could use more talent. Kroft is a good receiver, and will help give Aaron Rogers another weapon.
You're welcome  
MadPlaid : 4/11/2015 10:19 am : link
:-p
Didn't want Diggs  
Go Terps : 4/11/2015 10:23 am : link
Spencer will be a better player.
Seattle's pick is in  
sjnyfan : 4/11/2015 10:33 am : link
Carroll gets a player in Alford that has very similar stature and ability as Percy Harvin, minus the asshole. I'm not big on comparisons but he reminds me of T.Y. Hilton and the Seahawks love to get the ball down the field in the passing game.
minus the asshole  
MadPlaid : 4/11/2015 10:40 am : link
as far as you know.
RE: minus the asshole  
sjnyfan : 4/11/2015 10:54 am : link
In comment 12228636 MadPlaid said:
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as far as you know.


True, but all reports point to a positive, well liked kid by coaches and teammates and that he loves football.

Harvin was so hated he was banned from high school sports by the state of Virginia before graduating. That's how far back his history goes.

Plus the ability is underrated. Alford (11) had more receiving TDs than White (10) this past year not including two more from KOR's and has bigger hands despite giving up about 7 inches in height.
49ers are ready and waiting  
Pete from Woodstock : 4/11/2015 11:27 am : link
Torrag where are you!
sjnyfan  
MadPlaid : 4/11/2015 12:09 pm : link
whoa, I did not know that about Harvin. You'd think by now he'd realize that the asshole in the room is him.
Agreed MadPlaid  
sjnyfan : 4/11/2015 12:21 pm : link
Locker room cancer.
last six picks  
Mike in NY : 4/11/2015 12:31 pm : link
Have been TE or WR. Get 'em while they last!
Hi mongos  
Optimus-NY : 4/11/2015 3:09 pm : link
I'm back in Abu Dhabi (with Odie). Waiting for picks 149 and 150 for the Fish.
I am ready with my pick  
Mike in NY : 4/11/2015 3:14 pm : link
Maybe if Torrag will pick soon we can move this thing
I'm here too!  
Pete from Woodstock : 4/11/2015 3:38 pm : link
how long does Torrag have?
RE: I'm here too!  
Mike in NY : 4/11/2015 3:51 pm : link
In comment 12228971 Pete from Woodstock said:
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how long does Torrag have?


There is no clock on weekends so technically until 11 AM Monday
Morning guys pick is in  
Torrag : 4/12/2015 11:04 am : link
LB Davis Tull is explosive and tough. Pats have some depth concerns at the position which he shores up. Upside is tremendous if he can transition his game to the next level. Working with BB and his staff puts him in a great situation to fulfill his enormous potential.
We do round five too, right  
Jon in NYC : 4/12/2015 12:59 pm : link
?
Yes, I believe we do a round 5  
Andy in Halifax : 4/12/2015 1:35 pm : link
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We are also planning to go to a round 6  
MadPlaid : 4/12/2015 1:50 pm : link
if possible.



I'm hoping so, I have multiple picks in the 6th round.
Dammit Torrag!  
sjnyfan : 4/12/2015 1:51 pm : link
That was going to be my compensatory pick! Nice sleeper
We're scheduled for 6 RDs... Same as last year...  
Matt G : 4/12/2015 1:52 pm : link
If people don't want to continue past 5, we can stop there...
Patriots draft through Round 4  
Torrag : 4/12/2015 1:57 pm : link
#32 RB Melvin Gordon
#64 OG Tre Jackson
#96 DL Grady Jarrett
#97 WR Chris Conley
#101 CB Senquez Golson
#131 LB Davis Tull
damn it  
Mike in NY : 4/12/2015 2:01 pm : link
Wanted Tull with my next pick
sjny thanks I've followed him for a while could turn into a steal  
Torrag : 4/12/2015 2:06 pm : link
btw I think Golson has some 'sleeper' in him as well. He was a two sport athlete until he committed to college football and improved every season. It clicked for him this season and the only reason he isn't a Top 50 guy is his height imo. He is good taking on blocks and shedding and is a superior run defender to many bigger CB's. He's a quick twitch athlete with elite ball skills.
I think Golson will be an excellent slot corner  
sjnyfan : 4/12/2015 2:27 pm : link
Tough as nails and will play right away.

Seattle's pick coming up shortly
Mike  
MadPlaid : 4/12/2015 2:50 pm : link
sucks, don' it? Hehehe
Pick is in  
sjnyfan : 4/12/2015 2:54 pm : link
I wasn't expecting to go back-to-back Mountaineers but I think Glowinski is a very good prospect. He's athletic with good strength and has experience playing tackle and guard. Seattle needs line help as it's their worst position group imo.

Seattle's Draft

2. Ali Marpet, OL, Hobart
3. Trey Flowers, DE, Arkansas
4. Ibraheim Campbell, S, Northwestern
4. Mario Alford, WR, WVU
4. Mark Glowinski, OL, WVU
RE: Mike  
Mike in NY : 4/12/2015 2:56 pm : link
In comment 12230022 MadPlaid said:
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sucks, don' it? Hehehe


I thought Tull would fall to me. I was wrong. I have an alternate when I get home assuming Matt doesn't take him
Mike  
MadPlaid : 4/12/2015 4:23 pm : link
I hear ya. Fortunately, in my case, I too had a good alternative. I'm happy with my selection. Looking forward to the 5th & 6th rounds.

sjnyfan, nice work on your draft. Even though you didn't have a 1st round pick, working with Seattle has been good with all their picks in the 4th round.
Baltimore Ravens draft so far  
Mike in NY : 4/12/2015 4:42 pm : link
Round 1 - Malcom Brown/5T/Texas
Round 2 - Devin Smith/WR/Ohio State
Round 3 - D'Joun Smith/CB/Florida Atlantic
Round 4 - Reese Dismukes/OL/Auburn
Round 4 - Jeff Heuerman/TE/Ohio State
Round 4 - Markus Golden/OLB/Missouri

3 more picks in Round 5 and then 1 in Round 6. Although Brown is less ideal as a 5T than as a DT in 4-3 too much value there. Overall I like combination of value and addressing needs
Thanks MadPlaid  
sjnyfan : 4/12/2015 5:40 pm : link
This being my first BBI Mock, I'm really looking forward to seeing how they turn out.
Let;s go 6  
Optimus-NY : 4/12/2015 5:42 pm : link
Come on mongos! Don't get soft now!
Guys, just got home. Need time to catch up with the picks this  
yatqb : 4/12/2015 9:18 pm : link
weekend, and then I'll select one. sorry for the hold up.
Would have taken Justin Cox, but domestic violence issue  
yatqb : 4/12/2015 9:48 pm : link
stopped me.
Just realized the Jets  
Jon in NYC : 4/12/2015 10:01 pm : link
traded their 5th and 6th rounders this year.

So my draft's done haha.
my apologies about picking early...  
Amtoft : 4/13/2015 12:40 am : link
If he picks my guy i will take Jordan Richards SS from Stanford
Amtoft is good  
Kevin in CT : 4/13/2015 8:05 am : link
Just drafted Jordan Hicks who I was happy to see slide to my pick in the 5th round. Athletically, he is one of the best in this draft. He definitely has some durability issues but he played this past season with no issues that I was aware of. Most reports that I have read is that he loves the game a lot and lives in the film room. Hopefully he can live up to his ridiculous potential.
I'm probably jinxing myself here  
Andy in Halifax : 4/13/2015 8:24 am : link
but I had 2 guys picked out for my 4th round pick and the guy I didn't take is still there for me. Hoping SYS, Anak and jlukes will comply and make my choice easy!
TE's 2015 Draft  
Dragon : 4/13/2015 9:11 am : link
This TE class is about the same as most FB draft classes where 1 or 3 may be drafted. So why in a class devoid of real talent do you see 3-4 guys being mocked in the top 125 and somewhere between 8-10 being drafted. The top guy Williams lacks size, speed, strength and real big upside for the position in the NFL. Sure he looks good against college DB's but who will a 4.8+ guy run away from in the NFL. This position I would say we all agree is lacking in anything one would call Pro ready why then waste a premium pick on a marginal talent guy? Oh yes this position has become valuable but that's because you have guys with special physical skills not just another guy filling in the position.
Redskins pick is in  
SirYesSir : 4/13/2015 9:16 am : link
selecting Duke WR Jamison Crowder


Smallish, but has elite balance and technique with good hands. Did not time especially well at combine, but plays very fast. Diverse and effective wr
2014 NFL Draft  
Matt G : 4/13/2015 9:20 am : link
6 TEs drafted Top 100... 8 TEs overall...
2013 NFL Draft  
Matt G : 4/13/2015 9:22 am : link
6 TEs drafted Top 100... 16 TEs drafted overall...
RE: TE's 2015 Draft  
Mike in NY : 4/13/2015 9:37 am : link
In comment 12230488 Dragon said:
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This TE class is about the same as most FB draft classes where 1 or 3 may be drafted. So why in a class devoid of real talent do you see 3-4 guys being mocked in the top 125 and somewhere between 8-10 being drafted. The top guy Williams lacks size, speed, strength and real big upside for the position in the NFL. Sure he looks good against college DB's but who will a 4.8+ guy run away from in the NFL. This position I would say we all agree is lacking in anything one would call Pro ready why then waste a premium pick on a marginal talent guy? Oh yes this position has become valuable but that's because you have guys with special physical skills not just another guy filling in the position.


This year it seems like there are a number of guys who may be solid complementary guys or decent starters, but no top end guy. That is why you saw 2 in the Top 100, but a number coming off the board in Round 4 (and I anticipate Koyack and possibly Bell in Round 5 with Pruitt and O'Leary in Round 5 or 6)
Anak has less than an hour to go.  
MadPlaid : 4/13/2015 10:36 am : link
Call out thread?
He's only got 1/2 an hour  
Andy in Halifax : 4/13/2015 10:45 am : link
So probably time to email him or something.

jlukes should be ready too - he'll be OTC in 1/2 hour or less.
Emailed twice already  
Matt G : 4/13/2015 10:48 am : link
Not sure a call-out would help as he hasn't been online since late last night...
I don't have Anak's e-mail  
MadPlaid : 4/13/2015 10:49 am : link
I'll try a call out.

The next available player on the big board is Josh Harper, WR, Fresno State. It is not unheard of that a team will take 2 WR's in a draft. He makes sense as Chicago's pick. IMO
Matt  
MadPlaid : 4/13/2015 10:50 am : link
I see your point. Shall we then conclude that Josh Harper will be the pick?
At this point in the draft  
Matt G : 4/13/2015 10:57 am : link
i think it's okay to add another WR despite adding Kevin White in RD1...

So yes, Harper would be the pick...
Send out the anak signal...  
Optimus-NY : 4/13/2015 10:58 am : link
If jlukes doesn't take my guy, I'll be quick on the draw  
Andy in Halifax : 4/13/2015 11:20 am : link
If he does, I'll grab a dart and see what happens.
Andy  
MadPlaid : 4/13/2015 11:20 am : link
LOL


Too bad about Anak. I wouldn't have thought he'd miss his pick.
Wasn't  
est1986 : 4/13/2015 11:46 am : link
Harper already taken?
I think he was taken via auto pick  
Andy in Halifax : 4/13/2015 11:47 am : link
but then that choice was revised when the GM returned before the next pick was selected.
Andy is correct  
Matt G : 4/13/2015 11:49 am : link
jlukes expects to pick around noon
Cool. I am gonna run out for a sandwich and will be back in 10  
Andy in Halifax : 4/13/2015 11:52 am : link
Will be ready with a pick.
Shit. Just saw Matt's e-mails now  
Anakim : 4/13/2015 11:58 am : link
You guys start early!
MadPlaid, could you control your brother please  
Andy in Halifax : 4/13/2015 12:03 pm : link
He's embarrassing himself.
Can't Anakim switch to Sample until Andy posts his pick?  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/13/2015 12:07 pm : link
Seems like the same thing that happened with Josh Harper the first time. (Does anyone want that guy? Does he have cooties or something?)
Anyone care if Anak changes Harper to Sample?  
Andy in Halifax : 4/13/2015 12:07 pm : link
I don't.
Can I still go since no pick was taken after me?  
Anakim : 4/13/2015 12:07 pm : link
I would've gone with Safety James Sample of Louisville
Poor Josh Harper...  
Chris in Philly : 4/13/2015 12:08 pm : link
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RE: Anyone care if Anak changes Harper to Sample?  
Mike in NY : 4/13/2015 12:08 pm : link
In comment 12230809 Andy in Halifax said:
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I don't.


I do as he was the top guy on my list for the next Ravens pick :)
Anak, I say make the change  
Andy in Halifax : 4/13/2015 12:08 pm : link
Post the pick before jlukes posts.
Surprised Sample lasted this long  
Anakim : 4/13/2015 12:11 pm : link
I have him as a third round talent and for a Bears team with aging Safeties like Rolle and Mundy, Sample is a great fit.
RE: MadPlaid, could you control your brother please  
MadPlaid : 4/13/2015 12:11 pm : link
In comment 12230802 Andy in Halifax said:
Quote:
He's embarrassing himself.

No way! He's free to make an ass of himself any time. I don't believe in making restrictions, especially if they may impede my amusement.
RE: MadPlaid, could you control your brother please  
Anakim : 4/13/2015 12:13 pm : link
In comment 12230802 Andy in Halifax said:
Quote:
He's embarrassing himself.


You talkin' to me?
Josh Harper has to be asking himself  
MadPlaid : 4/13/2015 12:13 pm : link
Why doesn't any body want me? I'm good people!
RE: RE: MadPlaid, could you control your brother please  
MadPlaid : 4/13/2015 12:13 pm : link
In comment 12230829 Anakim said:
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In comment 12230802 Andy in Halifax said:


Quote:


He's embarrassing himself.



You talkin' to me?

Anak, RiffRaff is my brother. In real life.
Man, you have gotta feel for Harper...  
Hades07 : 4/13/2015 12:15 pm : link
...poor guy thought he was selected twice now only for the team to change their mind at the last second.
Not saying you're wrong Anak  
SirYesSir : 4/13/2015 12:18 pm : link
on the player, but I haven't seen ANYONE project Sample as a third rounder...
RE: Man, you have gotta feel for Harper...  
Mike in NY : 4/13/2015 12:18 pm : link
In comment 12230840 Hades07 said:
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...poor guy thought he was selected twice now only for the team to change their mind at the last second.


The threat of ending up with Harper is working better than call out threads! It would be something if he ends up having a better career than Allen and Sample (the two players taken when the autopick was rescinded)
Haha  
Lionhart28 : 4/13/2015 12:21 pm : link
I was just thinking that, poor Harper has been un-drafted twice.
RE: RE: RE: MadPlaid, could you control your brother please  
Anakim : 4/13/2015 12:25 pm : link
In comment 12230834 MadPlaid said:
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In comment 12230829 Anakim said:


Quote:


In comment 12230802 Andy in Halifax said:


Quote:


He's embarrassing himself.



You talkin' to me?


Anak, RiffRaff is my brother. In real life.


Oh, no shit? Cool. Never knew that. First and only BBI sibling posters?
RE: Not saying you're wrong Anak  
Anakim : 4/13/2015 12:26 pm : link
In comment 12230844 SirYesSir said:
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on the player, but I haven't seen ANYONE project Sample as a third rounder...


I have my own rankings :)
RE: RE: RE: RE: MadPlaid, could you control your brother please  
Anakim : 4/13/2015 12:26 pm : link
In comment 12230860 Anakim said:
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In comment 12230834 MadPlaid said:


Quote:


In comment 12230829 Anakim said:


Quote:


In comment 12230802 Andy in Halifax said:


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He's embarrassing himself.



You talkin' to me?


Anak, RiffRaff is my brother. In real life.



Oh, no shit? Cool. Never knew that. First and only BBI sibling posters?



Simos don't count
Ha  
MadPlaid : 4/13/2015 12:33 pm : link
Yeah, the Simo's don't count.

schnitzie is our sister, so we almost have the entire MadPlaid family on BBI. Sorry fellas.
Someone must have that infamous family photo!  
Andy in Halifax : 4/13/2015 12:40 pm : link
There was a site once upon a time that we all posted photos to, wonder what happened to that?
SirYesSir and Anakim: Walter Football has Sample at #94.  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/13/2015 12:42 pm : link
Projected round 3-4. He's their 9th rated safety. They seem to like the safety class more than most sites.
I think the depth of this safety class is actually really strong  
Eric on Li : 4/13/2015 12:46 pm : link
I don't love Collins (definitely wouldn't take him at 9) but behind him there's an array of possible top 100 talents with interesting skill sets. Many would definitely bring something to the NYG roster, especially if you count some of the tweeners.

B. Jones, Randall, Rollins, D. Smith, Prewitt, Rowe, Harris, Holliman, Tartt, Drummond, Amos, Sample, Geathers, Eskridge. I'd bet one of those guys hears the Giants call their name in the 2nd, 3rd or 4th round.
RE: Someone must have that infamous family photo!  
Chris in Philly : 4/13/2015 12:47 pm : link
In comment 12230902 Andy in Halifax said:
Quote:
There was a site once upon a time that we all posted photos to, wonder what happened to that?


Found it!

I thought jlukes was picking around noon  
Mike in NY : 4/13/2015 12:49 pm : link
Maybe we have to threaten awarding him Josh Harper for him to show up!
I'm the one holding the camera  
MadPlaid : 4/13/2015 12:49 pm : link
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Man, what a tough selection  
jlukes : 4/13/2015 12:50 pm : link
had a bunch of DTs in my sights, but was torn between a 3 tech and a Nose tackle.

Since the Broncos lost Knighton in free agency, I went with the NT.
Andy's up!  
Chris in Philly : 4/13/2015 12:55 pm : link
!
Terry Williams, aka "The Swamp Monster"  
jlukes : 4/13/2015 12:55 pm : link
seriously, is there a better nickname for a Nose Tackle?


Interested to see where Andy goes here - 4 guys that jump out are  
Eric on Li : 4/13/2015 1:01 pm : link
S - A. Harris
CB/S - J. Glenn
DE - Chickillo
TE - Koyack

I'd probably go with Glenn, but would be happy with any of the 4 in the 5th.
Dammit Andy!  
Chris in Philly : 4/13/2015 1:04 pm : link
I even had the picture of Hardison copied for my pick!
Nice picks lukes and Andy  
Lionhart28 : 4/13/2015 1:05 pm : link
I had the big NT on my radar as well and I like hardison as a 3T.
Good pick - didn't even see him left on the list  
Eric on Li : 4/13/2015 1:09 pm : link
damn 3rd column.
I had Nelson and Hardison as my top two choices in 4  
Andy in Halifax : 4/13/2015 1:10 pm : link
Obviously happy he's still there in 5.

My draft goals:
Get OL starter. Collins, check.
Get guys to help on 3rd down and/or red zone situations. Thompson & Funchess, check.
Get someone that can rush the passer. Hardison, check.
Get corner, hopefully can play slot. Nelson, check.
Get safety, with strong coverage skills. INCOMPLETE.

I'm am pleased thus far. Not a home run, but my drafts never are.
Sorry - forgot one goal  
Andy in Halifax : 4/13/2015 1:12 pm : link
Get someone to help stop the run, preferably interior. INCOMPLETE
Hardison at #144 looks like another solid pick for NYG.  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/13/2015 1:14 pm : link
Andy: re. your 'tweener remark on the Selections thread, you're too modest. He's no 'tweener in an NFL 4-3, despite his history at DE. He'd only be an end in a 3-4, or maybe in a goal line package.
Eagles select...  
Chris in Philly : 4/13/2015 1:18 pm : link
Lorenzo Mauldin from Louisville. We think he's a real good fit in our base 3-4 and he can be a core specials guy for a while. Strong character as well. A few other guys we were looking at for this slot, but we are hoping one of them slides to our next pick.
Wasn't Mauldin taken?  
Andy in Halifax : 4/13/2015 1:20 pm : link
Did I fuck up my board?
Andy is right  
Lionhart28 : 4/13/2015 1:21 pm : link
Mauldin went to San Diego at the end of the second round.
I was thinking he could be a guy that you could stick at DE  
Andy in Halifax : 4/13/2015 1:22 pm : link
if injuries hit during the season or something. Agree he's not the classic tweener, I was just having a bit of fun with that comment.
CIP  
Lionhart28 : 4/13/2015 1:24 pm : link
Try again, Moldin is off the board.
Oh fuck me...  
Chris in Philly : 4/13/2015 1:30 pm : link
Hang on...
RE: I'm the one holding the camera  
RiffRaff : 4/13/2015 1:36 pm : link
In comment 12230923 MadPlaid said:
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MadPlaid don't lie. You were that dull eyed kid in front on the right.

And as far as embarrassing myself......uh yeah....I'm good at that and it does amuse MadPlaid, so I phuqued.
Eagles actually take...  
Chris in Philly : 4/13/2015 1:36 pm : link
Ifo Ekpre-Olumo. We can't get through a draft without taking a Duck for Chipper. He's coming off an injury, and he has his detractors, but Chip knows him better than anyone in this league. And with some more coaching we think he can be an exceptional CB after a red-shirt year.
CIP  
Lionhart28 : 4/13/2015 1:37 pm : link
One more time. Ifo went to Houstin in the 3rd round.
Try again  
Andy in Halifax : 4/13/2015 1:37 pm : link
.
Dude...  
Kevin in CT : 4/13/2015 1:38 pm : link
.
Ladies and Gentlemen  
MadPlaid : 4/13/2015 1:40 pm : link
Welcome to the CiPPy show!!!
Why the fuck...  
Chris in Philly : 4/13/2015 1:41 pm : link
is the search thing not working? Fuck!
Serisously dude, pass the joint once in a while.  
Andy in Halifax : 4/13/2015 1:41 pm : link
Sorry for missing my last one guys.  
NoGainDayne : 4/13/2015 1:42 pm : link
I'm ready to make my pick whenever cip picks someone that hasn't been picked already
ANDY!!  
SirYesSir : 4/13/2015 1:42 pm : link
I finally like one of your picks! (what a dickish thing to say...sorry)

Really like Hardison though, very intriguing player, great value here.
If he picks someone already drafted again  
Lionhart28 : 4/13/2015 1:42 pm : link
he should get Josh Harper ;)
Sorry fuckos.  
Chris in Philly : 4/13/2015 1:49 pm : link
Having some issues today! If davis is already picked I'm gonna kill someone.
Chris take Amari Cooper  
SirYesSir : 4/13/2015 2:00 pm : link
....great late value
Damn... jlukes takes first player not on my list...  
Matt G : 4/13/2015 2:14 pm : link
of nearly 100 prospects... Impressive!
Saos  
Lionhart28 : 4/13/2015 2:33 pm : link
is up
New Orleans (Saos1n) is on the clock  
Optimus-NY : 4/13/2015 2:49 pm : link
New Orleans (Saos1n) is on the clock until 4:12 pm.
Damn  
YAJ2112 : 4/13/2015 2:51 pm : link
I just realized I don't pick any more. Stupid Lions trading their picks away.
Might want to start a callout for New Orleans (Saos1)  
Matt G : 4/13/2015 2:56 pm : link
Given that he is a new GM, missed his last pick and we haven't heard from him since... Looks like he was just on...
Matt  
Kevin in CT : 4/13/2015 3:02 pm : link
When you can, swap Amtoft and my picks in Round 5.

Thanks!
wow...  
Lionhart28 : 4/13/2015 3:08 pm : link
Koyack is the first golden domer drafted.
Hola mongitos...  
Optimus-NY : 4/13/2015 3:09 pm : link
I;m here. had my eye on the TE from N.D.

Oh well (pig fucker). I've got the next two picks for the Fish. Gimmee a few and I'll make 'em.
Matt  
Saos1n : 4/13/2015 3:20 pm : link
I'm here... I was well aware of where we stood... Missed my last pick which was quite ironic.. I was ready willing and able, but the pick before me took til the next morning... I got tied up at work... Randall was going to be my pick anyhow, so it worked out... Sorry for the hold up in round 3...

RE: Matt  
Matt G : 4/13/2015 3:23 pm : link
In comment 12231194 Kevin in CT said:
Quote:
When you can, swap Amtoft and my picks in Round 5.

Thanks!

done... not sure why that keeps happening on the thread
Now that Minnesota's draft is done (no 6th round pick)  
Jay in Saratoga : 4/13/2015 4:08 pm : link
I thought I would provide some of the rationale behind the picks I made. Most of my picks came up when I was to busy to write a lengthy post. so I'll put the right ups here.

#11 DT Danny Shelton, Washington
Pro Comparison: Haloti Hgata
This pick was case of BPA at a position of strength on this roster that I couldn't pass up because of how much higher I had him than the next guy. I had Leonard Williams as the top overall prospect in this draft and the next tier behind him consisted of Cooper, Fowler, Scherff and Shelton whom I ranked in that order based on Minnesota's needs and roster opportunities. I had the drop off to the next tier great enough to not force a need pick there.
This pick gives the Vikings dominant mismatch potential on the interior DL that should create advantageous match ups for the ends and linebackers. It also gives Minnesota the flexibility later on to walk away from the Joseph contract in the final year of flip Floyd in a trade depending on which pair from these 3 emerges as the most effective.

#45 LB Denzel Perryman, Miami
Pro Comparison: D'Qwell Jackson (tempted to write Ray Lewis, but not on that level)
Miami should have been better than they were with these players. The coaching down there is just a total mess. Perryman is a thumper at MIKE backer and when you look at his highlights he delivers the kinds of punishing hits that haunt my nightmares from Super Bowl XXXV. I expected Perryman to go in the late 1st round and was thrilled to see him here at #45.

#76 S Derron Smith, Fresno St
Pro Comparison: Antrel Rolle
I had Smith as the #2 safety in this draft and the best pure coverage safety. Paired with Harrison Smith, this would have the potential to give Minnesota one of the better safety tandems in the league and cover up some of the short comings of their corners.

#110 G Jarvis Harrison, Texas A&M
Pro Comparison: Shawn Andrews
A large athlete with surprising agility, Harrison be able to adjust quickly to pass blocking at the NFL level. He will be a bigger question mark in the ground game, but his size and strength suggest that he can get better if coached up on technique. Questions about his conditioning and commitment to football are probably the only thing preventing him from being a 2nd round pick and one of the 1st pure guards off the board. I had Harrison as the next prospect on my draft board after Derron Smith and would have taken him in the 3rd had Smith gone before I picked. Thrilled to catch him in the 4th.

#137 CB Charles Gaines, Louisville
Pro Comparison: Corey Webster
This was another case where the player I had next on my board form one round was still available when I picked next. Gaines is a former receiver who has a knack for anticipating routes and breaking on throws. He has good instincts and above average athletic ability. Thrilled to cap off my draft with Gaines in the 5th.

Additional Notes
Two positions I really wanted to hit in this draft but didn't manage to were WR and DE. This wasn't a great draft for DE, but I would have taken Chickillo from Miami with my last pick had Gaines not been available. As for WR, despite the many great options in this class, Minnesota's picks just didn't seem to line up with a WR at the top of the board.
Explications for my two picks for the Fish in the Fifth  
Optimus-NY : 4/13/2015 4:13 pm : link
Chis Hackett (SS) at #149 - Interesting prospect who is smart and has room to grow. I liked him over some of the other available safeties because of the aforementioned factors. Safety is also an area of need for the Fish.

Karlos Williams (RB) at #150 - While Miami has good depth at RB, this guy was to good to pass up. Sure, he has some off field baggage, but he's well worth the risk. He's a STs demon and a converted Safety. He's only starting to tap into his potential as a RB. I'm really intrigued by this kid and what he can do going forward if placed in the right situation.
It's 12:14 am here in Abu Dhabi  
Optimus-NY : 4/13/2015 4:14 pm : link
I've got one more pick in our Mock Draft (#191 overall in the Sixth Round). Sleepy time for me. See y'all on the morrow.
Nice pick Pete  
Mike in NY : 4/13/2015 4:21 pm : link
Mayle was on my short list for my last pick for the Ravens, but with how I ranked the remaining WR's I felt like I could risk losing out on Mayle and instead take Golden who I ranked similarly, but was at a position of greater scarcity
Andy  
Old Dirty Beckham : 4/13/2015 4:52 pm : link
not in love with your draft so far but love your most recent pick for the giants
Final reminder email sent to M.O.  
Matt G : 4/14/2015 8:44 am : link
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According to my calculation  
MadPlaid : 4/14/2015 9:27 am : link
Modus' time is up. He had until 9:16am to make a pick. jlukes indicated 10:16 but that is incorrect. The last selection was made at 4:16pm yesterday. Who's next on the big board?
Thanks Madplaid... You are correct...  
Matt G : 4/14/2015 9:37 am : link
Pick is in... Josh "The Teflon Don" Harper is the pick...

San Diego (armstead98) is on the clock...
Chargers pick made  
armstead98 : 4/14/2015 9:42 am : link
Went with a bit of a sleeper. Wagenmann has the athletic ability to compete at the next level, dominating much of the combine. He was also defensive player of the year in the Big Sky.

Concern is obviously his level of competition but give his athletic ability the upside is there. At the very least he should be a strong special teams contributor while learning the skills to be an edge rusher.
This is not the first time MO missed a pick  
Mike in NY : 4/14/2015 9:42 am : link
In Round 4 he was autoselected and even though he showed up after San Diego selected since San Diego had sent a list we allowed him to change his pick. He also nearly missed his Round 3 pick (showing up less than 10 minutes before pick was due in)
Mike  
Lionhart28 : 4/14/2015 10:00 am : link
the best part is, he auto-drafted Josh Harper in the 4th round too (before overriding the pick)
RE: Mike  
Mike in NY : 4/14/2015 10:44 am : link
In comment 12232121 Lionhart28 said:
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the best part is, he auto-drafted Josh Harper in the 4th round too (before overriding the pick)


Did not realize it was Harper he replaced. Anyway I have my pick queued up so I can fire as soon as I can get online after the pick before me goes
I am prepared...  
Chris in Philly : 4/14/2015 10:59 am : link
to draft 3 players already selected as soon as Buffalo goes!
RE: I am prepared...  
Mike in NY : 4/14/2015 11:10 am : link
In comment 12232245 Chris in Philly said:
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to draft 3 players already selected as soon as Buffalo goes!


Tony Washington would give you an Oregon player! I don't think Chip would go an entire draft without drafting one
Buffalo  
NJGiantFan84 : 4/14/2015 11:18 am : link
Bills take a chance on Wes Saxton. His 2013 season was very good, but after a change in offense he took a step backwards in 2014. He has speed, hands and makes plays in traffic. Has a lot of work to do in the trenches and his routes need to be more crisp, but with some work he can get there. His speed should allow him to create more separation than he showed last year

Very happy he was available after James, Kroft & Hauermann went in the 120's. Buffalo needs a Tight End and with only a few picks in this draft, need is a much higher priority than I typically make it.
While we still hope to land...  
Chris in Philly : 4/14/2015 11:22 am : link
a Duck before the draft ends, we decide to go with a very athletic H-Back/TE from a smaller program. Extraordinary production and great workouts make him a good fit for our uptempo style. He'll pair nicely with Ertz as we begin to phase Celek out.
there is no way in hell  
SirYesSir : 4/14/2015 11:31 am : link
that McCoyle Pruitt is a better name than Jaquiski Tartt
not that they can't take a developmental guy  
YAJ2112 : 4/14/2015 11:31 am : link
but didn't Buffalo sign Charles Clay to a big deal? Wouldn't say it's a "need".
Chris,  
NJGiantFan84 : 4/14/2015 11:33 am : link
I debated between Pruitt and Saxton. I had Saxton ranked slightly ahead of Pruitt but almost went against my draft board. It took me about 15 minutes to decide between the 2. Nice pick.
Jaquiski Tartt is so much better a name than McCoyle Pruitt  
MadPlaid : 4/14/2015 11:37 am : link
Especially because he's my draft pick. The nerve of some people.
RE: there is no way in hell  
Chris in Philly : 4/14/2015 11:38 am : link
In comment 12232295 SirYesSir said:
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that McCoyle Pruitt is a better name than Jaquiski Tartt


Screw that noise. MyCole is the best.
RE: Chris,  
Chris in Philly : 4/14/2015 11:39 am : link
In comment 12232304 NJGiantFan84 said:
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I debated between Pruitt and Saxton. I had Saxton ranked slightly ahead of Pruitt but almost went against my draft board. It took me about 15 minutes to decide between the 2. Nice pick.


I had Pruitt ahead anyway, so I think we both got the guy we wanted. I love it when a plan comes together...
YAJ,  
NJGiantFan84 : 4/14/2015 11:39 am : link
Clay, IMO, is the only worthwhile TE on the roster. There are a few younger guys with potential who Saxton will compete with.

I don't expect Saxton to come in and start or even play much the first year, but Buffalo needs more depth at the position desperately, especially with all the multiple TE sets teams use now. So I view it as a need going into the draft.
I was also  
NJGiantFan84 : 4/14/2015 11:41 am : link
referencing my other picks as wel: QB and especially OG. TE was ranked 5th on my list of needs, but the value at TE was better than the other positions, IMO.

checking in  
DCPollaro : 4/14/2015 12:09 pm : link
taking a look at who is left
RE: This is not the first time MO missed a pick  
MadPlaid : 4/14/2015 12:10 pm : link
In comment 12232092 Mike in NY said:
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In Round 4 he was autoselected and even though he showed up after San Diego selected since San Diego had sent a list we allowed him to change his pick. He also nearly missed his Round 3 pick (showing up less than 10 minutes before pick was due in)

Do you think we should replace him as a GM for the remainder of this mock draft? Frankly, I don't think he's been a very good participant. Especially after he got into it with Amtoft.
went with Titus Davis out of Central Michigan  
DCPollaro : 4/14/2015 12:17 pm : link
good ball skills and route running
Plaid...  
Chris in Philly : 4/14/2015 12:18 pm : link
has the claws out and is looking for blood!
RE: RE: This is not the first time MO missed a pick  
Mike in NY : 4/14/2015 12:34 pm : link
In comment 12232354 MadPlaid said:
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In comment 12232092 Mike in NY said:


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In Round 4 he was autoselected and even though he showed up after San Diego selected since San Diego had sent a list we allowed him to change his pick. He also nearly missed his Round 3 pick (showing up less than 10 minutes before pick was due in)


Do you think we should replace him as a GM for the remainder of this mock draft? Frankly, I don't think he's been a very good participant. Especially after he got into it with Amtoft.


Amtoft could have handled it better too
RE: RE: RE: This is not the first time MO missed a pick  
Amtoft : 4/14/2015 12:38 pm : link
In comment 12232381 Mike in NY said:
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In comment 12232354 MadPlaid said:


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In comment 12232092 Mike in NY said:


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In Round 4 he was autoselected and even though he showed up after San Diego selected since San Diego had sent a list we allowed him to change his pick. He also nearly missed his Round 3 pick (showing up less than 10 minutes before pick was due in)


Do you think we should replace him as a GM for the remainder of this mock draft? Frankly, I don't think he's been a very good participant. Especially after he got into it with Amtoft.



Amtoft could have handled it better too


True story
Amtoft  
Kevin in CT : 4/14/2015 12:45 pm : link
Let me have it last year with the Khalil Mack pick. I chalk it up to him being upset that I took his top player on his draft board, ha!

In all seriousness, Amtoft knows his shit and expresses his thoughts on players and their fit on prospective teams. No reason for anyone to get fired up over in my opinion.
Mike  
MadPlaid : 4/14/2015 12:47 pm : link
perhaps, but that's just Amtoft. He doesn't sugar coat it if he thinks you made an unwise pick. Modus' problem was he took it personally instead of trying to get past the noise to the actual feedback. He wasn't familiar with Amtoft, so he got angry. Since then, Modus has barely participated. For a newby, that is very bad form
RE: Plaid...  
MadPlaid : 4/14/2015 12:49 pm : link
In comment 12232367 Chris in Philly said:
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has the claws out and is looking for blood!

I've got a hankering for some lollypops and butt kicking, and I am all out of lollypops!

(Did I get that right?)
Email sent to Pittsburgh (Gmen-in-SC)  
Matt G : 4/14/2015 1:10 pm : link
And I have the board for Carolina (FatMan in Charlotte) next two picks...
Cowboys checking in and ready to pick at number 163  
Rick in Dallas : 4/14/2015 2:32 pm : link
...
You're up rick  
jlukes : 4/14/2015 2:34 pm : link
and I am ready right after you
Rick is on deck  
MadPlaid : 4/14/2015 2:39 pm : link
Jay on the Island is at bat.

jlukes, please don't take my guy. I know nothing would give you more pleasure, but cut a brother a break, please!
RE: You're up rick  
Mike in NY : 4/14/2015 2:39 pm : link
In comment 12232690 jlukes said:
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and I am ready right after you


Tampa Bay picks before Rick
Waiting for Jay's Tampa pick at 162  
Rick in Dallas : 4/14/2015 2:42 pm : link
...
Oops, good call  
jlukes : 4/14/2015 2:43 pm : link
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FWIW, Pittsburgh (Gmen-in-SC) checked in just before time expired  
Matt G : 4/14/2015 2:44 pm : link
And requested BPA (non-QB)...
Great work...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/14/2015 2:57 pm : link
by Matt not only keeping us running smoothly, but also for posting pictures with Carolina's picks!!

The Panthers are proud of their selections
Matt always does amazing work  
Mike in NY : 4/14/2015 3:03 pm : link
Would be interesting to have someone like Sy comment on how each team did especially if we can get through Round 6 as expeditiously as possible
RE: Matt always does amazing work  
MadPlaid : 4/14/2015 3:10 pm : link
In comment 12232743 Mike in NY said:
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Would be interesting to have someone like Sy comment on how each team did especially if we can get through Round 6 as expeditiously as possible

Agree about Matt. Ever since he took over, the draft has run very well. We are lucky to have him.

It would be interesting if Sy could comment, but it would also be a tall order for someone to review each team's results. I wouldn't want to burn him out.
RE: RE: Matt always does amazing work  
Mike in NY : 4/14/2015 3:18 pm : link
In comment 12232755 MadPlaid said:
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Would be interesting to have someone like Sy comment on how each team did especially if we can get through Round 6 as expeditiously as possible


Agree about Matt. Ever since he took over, the draft has run very well. We are lucky to have him.

It would be interesting if Sy could comment, but it would also be a tall order for someone to review each team's results. I wouldn't want to burn him out.


Not necessarily Sy, but would be nice to have someone or a group of people comment on the overall results
Cowboys select Ben Heeney,MLB,Kansas  
Rick in Dallas : 4/14/2015 3:26 pm : link
Heeney is a tad undersized but had an outstanding career at Kansas. Excellent foot quickness, speed and agility. Impressive at the Combine ran a 4.59 forty and a 6.68 3-cone.
jlukes  
MadPlaid : 4/14/2015 3:33 pm : link
whew! My guy is still out there. Thank you
Denver Broncos select Blake Bell, TE, Oklahoma  
jlukes : 4/14/2015 3:37 pm : link
Short term red-zone threat and as a former QB, he should learn quickly under Peyton. Really think he is going to be an impact Tight End in the NFL for the next decade.

I had been waiting and waiting to pull the trigger on Bell, thinking he'd slip through the cracks, and my gamble paid off.
RE: Amtoft  
Amtoft : 4/14/2015 3:46 pm : link
In comment 12232394 Kevin in CT said:
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Let me have it last year with the Khalil Mack pick. I chalk it up to him being upset that I took his top player on his draft board, ha!

In all seriousness, Amtoft knows his shit and expresses his thoughts on players and their fit on prospective teams. No reason for anyone to get fired up over in my opinion.


Yeah that was just me bring upset that not one QB went in the first 4 picks which. I had a 4 player board not with a QB and that was me throwing a fit. With MO all i said was i didn't like the fit and he called all upset and called me Nancy. I understand i have strong opinions and sometimes cant help take the bait of name calling. After awhile when it seemed if wasnt going to end i just stopping responding. I didnt want to continue this thread off line like i have in the past.
Thanks for the kind words, gentlemen...  
Matt G : 4/14/2015 3:48 pm : link
RD5 and RD6 are the most fun and most helpful to me in my draft prep... Lot of really solid due diligence shared on here...
feel bad about  
Amtoft : 4/14/2015 3:48 pm : link
Missing a pick this year and the worsr part is it was a player i liked that unfortunately went to Stanford!
Rick  
Lionhart28 : 4/14/2015 3:52 pm : link
I really like Heeney, I think he's going to be a good football player for some team. I just hope it's not Dallas!
RE: Denver Broncos select Blake Bell, TE, Oklahoma  
Mike in NY : 4/14/2015 3:58 pm : link
In comment 12232803 jlukes said:
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Short term red-zone threat and as a former QB, he should learn quickly under Peyton. Really think he is going to be an impact Tight End in the NFL for the next decade.

I had been waiting and waiting to pull the trigger on Bell, thinking he'd slip through the cracks, and my gamble paid off.


I like Bell. Was debating about taking Tull instead of Heuerman in the 4th then taking Bell in the 5th, but I decided against that. Speaking of other recent picks Dezmin Lewis was one of 3 WR's that I was considering for the pick that ultimately was Kenny Bell
Thanks Lionheart  
Rick in Dallas : 4/14/2015 3:59 pm : link
He reminds me of Zach Thomas. Perfect selection for the Cowboys who only re-signed McLain to a 1 year deal.
Surprised Heeney lasted that long  
Andy in Halifax : 4/14/2015 4:09 pm : link
Good value this late. Nice pick.
The pick is in  
MadPlaid : 4/14/2015 4:10 pm : link
Packers were looking to add a body to the NT position considering the two guys they have are on 1 year deals. I was looking hard at Joey Mbu, NT, Houston, but I read Sy's DT thread today. His write up on David Parry persuaded me that he was the guy I should bring to Green Bay. The more I read about him on-line, the more I liked him. Tough, space occupying NT with a tremendous motor and mean streak. The kind of guy who takes up blockers to keep the LB's clean to make plays. Plus, he's very good against the run which was an area needing shoring up for the Pack. Armstead plus Parry makes for a much improved run stopping interior line. IMHO
Seattle's pick is in  
sjnyfan : 4/14/2015 4:13 pm : link
I like Coleman alot and it would surprise me if he made it this far. The Seahawks haven't had a true slot since Walter Thurmond left. Coleman played his senior year there almost exclusively because of his quick feet and form tackling. He's a bit slight in weight but he's physical, played all 49 games (38 starts) as a Vol and doesn't have an injury history.

He reads coverage well (5 PBU's and 4 INT's) and can get behind the LOS (4 TFL's). He also plays ST's as he was their outside gunner.

He may go in Day 3 but he'll be hard to cut. He's one of the more natural slot CB's this side of Golson.
I am thrilled with Tampa's  
Jay on the Island : 4/14/2015 4:57 pm : link
two 5th rounders Lynden Trail and DeAndre Smelter. Both players are raw high upside gambles but these are the types of players I believe you draft from rounds 5-7.
I like your pick Jay  
Mike in NY : 4/14/2015 5:33 pm : link
Mainly because it means at least 1 of the 3 players I narrowed it down to at 171 will be there
Cowboys draft is done..need some feedback on picks from other GM's  
Rick in Dallas : 4/14/2015 5:56 pm : link
First of all thanks Matt G for running the draft again. Great job.

Let me know how I did for the Cowboys.

First Round(27th pick) Kevin Johnson,CB, Wake Forest
Second Round(60st pick) Ameer Abdullah,RB, Nebraska
Third Round(91st pick) Henry Anderson,DE, Stanford
Fourth Round(127th pick)Stefon Diggs,WR, Maryland
Fifth Round(163rd pick) Ben Heeney,MLB, Kansas
Rick  
Jay on the Island : 4/14/2015 6:05 pm : link
I think Dallas would be happy with that draft. Diggs would help replace Dwayne Harris' production on special teams. Johnson could start week 1 and if Abdullah could hold onto the football he could be a dangerous RB behind that OL. Also I love Heeney there I was going to take him with my first 5th round pick but I wasn't expecting Trail to be there and I would have taken Heeney with my second 5th rounder but you beat me to it.
Tampa Bay's draft  
Jay on the Island : 4/14/2015 6:14 pm : link
1st QB Jameis Winston
2nd G AJ Cann
3rd OT Donovan Smith
4th S Gerod Holliman
5th DE Lynden Trail
5th WR DeAndre Smelter

I went into the draft wanting to fix the OL. I was targeting Jake Fisher in the 2nd but he went the pick before so I happily took Cann because he is arguably the best guard in the draft and he will settle in at RG where last years starter Omameh was terrible. Also Demar Dotson was solid at RT but he is moving over to LT this year leaving a gaping hole there and I was very happy that Donovan Smith was there because he has pro bowl ability at RT if he works for it. Holliman will be used early on in nickel packages and on 3rd down to take advantage of his ball hawk skills. Trail will get work in the rotation as he is raw but there isn't much at DE in front of him besides recently signed George Johnson, Jacquies Smith, and William Gholston. Smelter will be red-shirted but he has a lot of potential to develop into a great #2 opposite Mike Evans in a couple of years when Vincent Jackson is gone.
Damn you Jay  
Lionhart28 : 4/14/2015 6:16 pm : link
Damn you to hell. I almost took Smelter earlier, thought he'd be there in 6.
Seattle's compensatory pick is in  
sjnyfan : 4/14/2015 8:20 pm : link
I like Hill. Very smart and competitive player. Team captain and puts team first. Very mature.

He sacrificed numbers this year for the team by playing an h-back/TE role in his return from an ACL injury which had him miss the entire 2013 season. His 2012 season though was one of the best in school history. 81 catches for 1364 yards and 11 TDs. I think he's closer to this player. As long as he can stay healthy and being one more year away from his injury, I think he'll be his more explosive self.

Very smooth, deceptive in the open field and excellent ball skills. Good pedigree as well. His father David was a 13 year veteran at TE in the NFL.
RE: Seattle's compensatory pick is in  
Mike in NY : 4/14/2015 8:26 pm : link
In comment 12233224 sjnyfan said:
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I like Hill. Very smart and competitive player. Team captain and puts team first. Very mature.

He sacrificed numbers this year for the team by playing an h-back/TE role in his return from an ACL injury which had him miss the entire 2013 season. His 2012 season though was one of the best in school history. 81 catches for 1364 yards and 11 TDs. I think he's closer to this player. As long as he can stay healthy and being one more year away from his injury, I think he'll be his more explosive self.

Very smooth, deceptive in the open field and excellent ball skills. Good pedigree as well. His father David was a 13 year veteran at TE in the NFL.


It was between Bell, Lewis and Hill for my previous pick. Glad I didn't chance them being around at 171
Emails sent to GMs of next 4 picks  
Matt G : 4/14/2015 8:42 pm : link
But I have a feeling this is where we bog down for the night...
RE: Damn you Jay  
Jay on the Island : 4/14/2015 8:42 pm : link
In comment 12233033 Lionhart28 said:
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Damn you to hell. I almost took Smelter earlier, thought he'd be there in 6.


Sorry to break your heart dude. I was debating on waiting until my 6th round pick to get Smelter but I knew there was a slim chance that he would be there. Drafting Smelter in the 5th or 6th was my plan all along I was just hoping he would still be there after I passed on Agholor in the 2nd.
You gotta good player still Mike  
sjnyfan : 4/14/2015 8:43 pm : link
I like CAP alot. Very similar game to Tre Mason.
RE: You gotta good player still Mike  
Mike in NY : 4/14/2015 8:54 pm : link
In comment 12233283 sjnyfan said:
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I like CAP alot. Very similar game to Tre Mason.


I wasn't taking Hill after getting 2 WR earlier. I was planning on going a totally different direction but CAP was ranked similarly, the Ravens could use a RB and I had one other RB after CAP with a mock draftable grade (top 6 rounds)
i really like the Corey Robinson pick...  
Amtoft : 4/14/2015 8:57 pm : link
This is a good range to get a good OL that may not have been rated as highly as they should be and i think Robinson is a perfect case of that.
Sent Matt a board  
Amtoft : 4/15/2015 2:24 am : link
in case the next 7 picks go quick
I actually..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/15/2015 8:59 am : link
feel good that the Panthers were able to bundle two OL picks in the 5th.

Then the fact we were able to get the top rated DB left on the board should help as well. Robinson is a guy who I think will go higher in the real draft, but the Panthers could use the help on the line and we hope he can come in right away and pay some dividends.
I like the pick of Kevin White at this point  
Mike in NY : 4/15/2015 9:12 am : link
Lack of size will probably limit him to being a depth guy and did not run as fast as you would like, but plays faster and is a safer bet as a nickel than many of the CB's remaining at this point
Giving M.O. 1hr...  
Matt G : 4/15/2015 9:16 am : link
As discussed in the callout, M.O is on the clock until 10am... If he is a no-show, any interested GM wishing to close out with selections for his remaining 3 picks and secure a guaranteed spot next year, please email me ASAP...
Thanks, Matt  
MadPlaid : 4/15/2015 9:21 am : link
I think this is appropriate.
Was MO a rookie?  
Andy in Halifax : 4/15/2015 9:45 am : link
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RE: Was MO a rookie?  
MadPlaid : 4/15/2015 9:46 am : link
In comment 12233720 Andy in Halifax said:
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Yes
Damn, these last dozen or so picks crushed my board  
Lionhart28 : 4/15/2015 9:55 am : link
Smelter, Hill, Lewis, Heeney, Douglas, Trail, Parry, DePriest and White were all guys on my short list.
If someone else is going to take over Houston  
Mike in NY : 4/15/2015 10:02 am : link
I have no problem giving that poster until 11 AM to select
Me too  
MadPlaid : 4/15/2015 10:04 am : link
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ODB is in... Pick coming shortly...  
Matt G : 4/15/2015 10:05 am : link
Probably just cut the line by at least +2yrs, but he was active and stepped up...
Pick is in  
Old Dirty Beckham : 4/15/2015 10:06 am : link
Dominique Brown is one of my favorite late round backs in the draft. Can't teach size and power. He should help as a goal line and short yardage back for Houston.
Thank you, ODB, for stepping up  
MadPlaid : 4/15/2015 10:13 am : link
it is much appreciated. Nice pick too.
I could use a round by round recap  
Old Dirty Beckham : 4/15/2015 10:15 am : link
posted a little cleaner so that I can easily sift through who has been drafted and who hasn't. I've been paying attention to this but don't have a list in front of me. I don't want to take someone already taken.
Nevermind  
Old Dirty Beckham : 4/15/2015 10:17 am : link
Matt helped me out. Glad to be part of this. I'll be ready when my picks come up.
Baltimore Ravens draft so far  
Mike in NY : 4/15/2015 10:19 am : link
Morse has been on my radar since Pick #122, but there was always someone that I liked a little bit more and since OL just were not going I figured why not take the shot that he would still be around later. Now that we are at Pick #176 I could not ignore him anymore. Experienced at multiple positions and will provide depth across the OL

Baltimore Ravens selections:
Round 1 - Malcom Brown/5T/Texas
Round 2 - Devin Smith/WR/Ohio State
Round 3 - D'Joun Smith/CB/Florida Atlantic
Round 4 - Reese Dismukes/C/Auburn
Round 4 - Jeff Heuerman/TE/Ohio State
Round 4 - Markus Golden/OLB/Missouri
Round 5 - Kenny Bell/WR/Nebraska
Round 5 - Cameron Artis-Payne/RB/Auburn
Round 5 - Mitch Morse/OL/Missouri
Round 6 - TBD

Part of the reason that I have been able to make picks so quickly is that the Baltimore Ravens were blackballed from many schools due to fights between their scouts and Joe Collins over candy. Ohio State, Missouri and Auburn were nice enough to let us in and have been rewarded with 2 picks each and possibly more to come
I'm going to be tied up in meetings until 1pm...  
Matt G : 4/15/2015 10:26 am : link
Next two GMs have been emailed...
i wish i had a few more picks...  
Amtoft : 4/15/2015 11:18 am : link
I have 3 players that should not be here right nos. My 4th player on my list was Mitch Morse who is very under rated.
One player I really want to make it for my last pick  
Kevin in CT : 4/15/2015 11:30 am : link
Have a strange feeling Amtoft might take him.
Probably was going to take Hickey if he were there  
Andy in Halifax : 4/15/2015 1:16 pm : link
Better send the scouts back out to see more tape!
RE: Probably was going to take Hickey if he were there  
Mike in NY : 4/15/2015 1:20 pm : link
In comment 12234180 Andy in Halifax said:
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Better send the scouts back out to see more tape!


There is always UKGiantsFan's sleeper OG (who could also play RT)
Hickey  
Amtoft : 4/15/2015 2:00 pm : link
Was second on my board as a pure OG. He is a slightly more powerful not as quick feet Pugh. He will be very good as an OG and no way he lasts this long. I have an OL and a CB way higher than any other player... Jordan Richards I also have very high but dont want a SS with a safety already drafted.
Hickey  
Kevin in CT : 4/15/2015 2:06 pm : link
Would have been my pick if he made it that far. Damn.
Not sure what happened to Amtoft  
Matt G : 4/15/2015 2:51 pm : link
Unless he's contemplating his board... Regardless, I have it...
Nice pick Amtoft  
Lionhart28 : 4/15/2015 3:01 pm : link
Another guy off my short board.
sorry guys i am actually  
Amtoft : 4/15/2015 3:03 pm : link
In Minnesota right now. One of my best friends is here being treated at the Mayo clinic so i have been off and then on this whole time. Part of the reason i missed my first pick ever. I almost took a CB i am super high on in Jacoby Glenn... the kid is a flat out stud. Because he is a RS SO he is flying under the radar but make no mistake he is amazing. He was my pick if i would of had a OL by now, but sadly every player i wanted for OL wemt within the 5 picks before my pick.

So with that i went with Mauler Jamon Brown. He may not be able to stay outside at RT where i think he will dominate, but at worst he can move into RG. For the 6th round he will be a very good pick for the Giants and the Raiders of course.
RE: Nice pick Amtoft  
Amtoft : 4/15/2015 3:04 pm : link
In comment 12234396 Lionhart28 said:
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Another guy off my short board.


Thank you. I was pleasantly surprised at how many players i am still high on.
I almost took Glenn in RD6 as well  
Matt G : 4/15/2015 3:26 pm : link
Seems like he will find a home as a nickel corner... Must admit the 4.6 or so he ran scares me a bit... Very young and great instincts though...
Thank God Glenn was still available  
Kevin in CT : 4/15/2015 3:57 pm : link
I had Hickey and Glenn as my two that I was hoping would last. If they were both gone, I was about to take a flier on Nick Marshall and hope he would be able to adjust quickly and make a move to corner. So for those of you who passed on Glenn, THANK YOU!
Another nice pick  
Lionhart28 : 4/15/2015 4:23 pm : link
talented kid at this point in the draft, needs some work but high upside.
I watched both Oklahoma OTs a lot...  
Matt G : 4/15/2015 4:33 pm : link
Both huge, powerful, long arms and can steamroll guys when they lock on... After watching the RT (Williams), I expected the the gap btwn the two would be a lot closer than it was... Williams may not have quick feet but he has good balance... Thompson is certainly worth a flier at this point, but the way he lunged and was off balance so often scared me...
Thompson  
Mike in NY : 4/15/2015 4:35 pm : link
He and Poole (San Diego State) were my alternates if Morse wasn't there at 176
Seattle's pick  
sjnyfan : 4/15/2015 4:39 pm : link
I know I already selected two OL but with a luxury of picks and Seattle having such a terrible line I couldn't resist. Plus I can't see Thompson lasting this long. He has the size (6'5", 324 lbs) and length (35" arms, over 10" hands) you want from today's NFL lineman. He needs some work in the pass game but has improved every year and he's dominant in the run game. There's a huge reason Samaje Perine, who's not a fast back, had 1700+ yds this past season including an NCAA record 427 in Nov.

Thompson is also a mature guy. Military family, born in Germany. Already married with two kids. I'm sure that'll be a huge motivation for success. At worst I could see him moving inside a la Carl Nicks and dominating as a sapce eating guard.
RE: Thank God Glenn was still available  
Amtoft : 4/15/2015 5:05 pm : link
In comment 12234512 Kevin in CT said:
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I had Hickey and Glenn as my two that I was hoping would last. If they were both gone, I was about to take a flier on Nick Marshall and hope he would be able to adjust quickly and make a move to corner. So for those of you who passed on Glenn, THANK YOU!


I almost switched to Glenn... I needed at least one OL tho in this draft and may regret passing on Glenn. Dont get me wrong I am very high on Jamon also but Glenn really stands out as a steal to me
I liked the  
Amtoft : 4/15/2015 5:06 pm : link
VT OT more than Poole and Thompson... some really good OL in this range of picking.
RE: Probably was going to take Hickey if he were there  
yatqb : 4/15/2015 5:21 pm : link
In comment 12234180 Andy in Halifax said:
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Better send the scouts back out to see more tape!


I was really glad that Hickey was there. Solid prospect, Levitre may be retiring and is getting older even if not. Build the OL in front of Mariota and focus on defense next year.
Redskins help the O-line  
SirYesSir : 4/15/2015 6:03 pm : link
down the road with Shaq Mason (full name - Shaquille Olajuwon Mason) OG/C from Georgia Tech

impressed at the Senior Bowl, made multiple All-America teams, and looks to already be on the way to a powerful run blocker in the nfl. His pass technique needs work, but Ga Tech rarely threw the ball so he needs some coaching and experience, but a great asset for this late in the draft
Alright, let's see who's left  
Anakim : 4/15/2015 6:29 pm : link
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6 more picks until the Fish are up at 191  
Optimus-NY : 4/16/2015 7:48 am : link
I'm gonna get my board ready and send it to Matt G. I might have to go out when my pick is up.
I haven't  
Jon in NYC : 4/16/2015 8:00 am : link
really discuessed my draft yet but here's the Jets' haul:

1. Amari Cooper
2. Eli Harold
3. Cedric Ogbuehi
4. Rob Havenstein

Went BPA in round 1. Cooper may not have an immediate impact, but neither Decker nor Marshall are long term solutions, so Cooper will see the field sooner rather than later.

Harold was a balance of need/BPA in round two. He needs to gain some weight, but Harold can get to the QB and will be able to cause havoc in the 3-4.

I bought low on Ogbuehi and Havenstein. One because of injury and one because of a poor combine performance. Both can slot in at RT or G, and at the very least will provide really good depth.

Very happy with my class this year.
Hey guys,  
Andy in Halifax : 4/16/2015 8:24 am : link
behind on my board... missed most of the picks after my 5th... is Smelter still available? Got a quick meeting, back in 10 and will pick then.
Smelter was drafted in RD5  
Matt G : 4/16/2015 8:30 am : link
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Guys, I'm going to be tied up in mtgs most of the day...  
Matt G : 4/16/2015 8:34 am : link
So I won't be able to check the thread and send reminder emails with the same regularity... Hopefully, everyone can check in, make their picks and keep things running smoothly down the home stretch...

I'm hopeful we can wrap this up by Saturday...
Well, I threw out my players sheet, forgetting that the Titans have a  
yatqb : 4/16/2015 8:40 am : link
compensatory pick toward the end of the draft. I'll need some help from folks as that pick approaches.
ytqb  
Matt G : 4/16/2015 8:48 am : link
You can always use the spreadsheet (linked at the top of this thread) to see the available remaining prospects as ranked by GBN and well beyond...
RE: ytqb  
yatqb : 4/16/2015 8:59 am : link
In comment 12235449 Matt G said:
Quote:
You can always use the spreadsheet (linked at the top of this thread) to see the available remaining prospects as ranked by GBN and well beyond...


Thanks, Matt!
I'm cool with my draft.  
Andy in Halifax : 4/16/2015 10:25 am : link
I was hoping for Agholor or Davis in 2, otherwise pretty pleased with what I had available each round and think I got a few guys that can play in the NFL. Would have been thrilled is Hickey was there in 6, not to be though.

1. Collins, OT
2. Thompson, OLB
3. Funchess, WR
4. Nelson, CB
5. Hardison, DT
6. Carter, SS
The New Orleans Saints draft is finalized  
Saos1n : 4/16/2015 10:37 am : link
I came into the draft with many needs, but fixing this porous defense was my main concern. Trading Jimmy Graham was not my idea, but I love the addition of Max Unger. Adding a playmaker and depth at tight end was a focus, but this defense needed CPR. Some dice rolling throughout the draft, but if these young kids can take to our coaching a reach their potential, we may be on to something special. My selections were the following:

1a - Randy Gregory OLB - We aren't as concerned with the weed-us... We spoke to him about the issues (maturity) and a pleased to select this pass rushing specialist at 13.

1b (Seattle) - Marcus Peters CB - Without the off the field issues, we believe Marcus would have been selected in the top 20 picks. Nice compliment to our current group of CBs, including Browner, with a nod to the future.

2 - Breshad Perriman WR - With the guidance of Drew Brees and coach Payton, we believe Perriman can completely make up for his dad's disappointing showing. Deep outside threat that compliments Cooks well.

3a - Arie Kouandjio OG - True OG for us. Fingers crossed on knee issues. Enough said.

3b - Damarious Randall FS - This was a generic pick due to me not being available. Happily enough, this was going to be our pick.

5a - Ben Koyack TE - Love Koyack. Love to get him at this spot. Not going to replace Graham, but who is going to? Great two way TE prospect.

5b - Anthony Harris SS - Didn't believe he would last to this point. In time, I believe he will be paired very nicely with Randall.

6 - Derrick Lott DT - Love his potential coming from a small school. Scheme fit? Potentially... We plan on bulking him up a little bit more to play the 5T. Project.
im here dudes  
Lionhart28 : 4/16/2015 12:08 pm : link
pick will be in shortly
I'm very happy with the Raiders draft...  
Amtoft : 4/16/2015 12:33 pm : link
I needed DEs, DT, OL, WR, DBs... i needed a lot, but WR, DE, OL, and DT were going to be my focus.

1. DE Dante Fowler - best 4-3 DE in the draft that is very limited with 4-3 DEs. Brings more of the super athleticism to the Raiders front 7. If Leonard and Fowler were gone was going Cooper

2. DT Jordan Phillips - I was targetting Agholor or Tre Jackson with this pick since I took Fowler in the 1st. When Agholor went I was going to go Tre Jackson but Phillips surprisingly fell to me and DT is a major need also.

3. RB Jeremy Langford - was targetting Tre Jackson, Donovan Smith, and Kurtis Drummond for this pick. All 3 went off the board and my next OL Daryl Williams who I thought I could maybe get next round. So I went with my higher rated and under rated RB in Langford. Kid is good

4. WR Ty Montgomery - was targetting Daryl Williams all along here and he went. Got busy and missed my pick. Auto drafted a player I know a to much about unfortunately. Super talented kid that is also a need and good fit.

5. FS Durel Eskridge - finally got a player I was targetting. I was shocked he was still on the board as many other Safeties went that i feel are not as good. Was thinking I would be going Jordan Richards here so happy to get a player that may go in the late 3rd early 4th.

6. OT Jamon Brown - coming in i wanted an OL in the 2nd, 3rd, or 4th round. The fact I am just now getting one is shocking to me. The value just never justified the pick until this round and still I may have taken CB Jacoby Glenn. In the end though Jamon Brown is a beast and was thought to be headed to 1st or 2nd round status. He has dropped some but to me he doesnt make it to the 6th round. Very talented and should be able to stay outside at RT IMO.
I'm here mongocitos  
Optimus-NY : 4/16/2015 12:46 pm : link
Gimmee a few and I'll make my last pick for the Fish at #191 overall.
Note about 2 of my draft picks  
Optimus-NY : 4/16/2015 1:15 pm : link
Not to nitpick, but I picked Chris Hacket at 149 and Karlos Williams at 150 for the Dolphins, not the other way around. For some reason they're listed in the opposite order. It appears this way on the spreadsheet and the on the list of picked players on both the DISCUSSION thread and the SELECTION thread. I just waned to point this out for the sake of accuracy.
My draft is over for the Fish  
Optimus-NY : 4/16/2015 1:19 pm : link
I'm tired now (I've got a huge headache--possible migraine), so I'll drop by later with a synopsis of all my picks. I toughed it out just so I could make this pick here in the 6th round at #191 overall.

I'll say this about ILB Taiwan Jones out of Michigan State who I just picked: dude's a a thumper. It's nice to have one of those ultra physical types who is a no-nonsense type football player laying some punishing blows on the opposition. I'm very happy to choose him at this spot. He definitely fills a need, and a is a good value at this spot in the draft.
The 49ers draft is complete and we are very happy...  
Pete from Woodstock : 4/16/2015 1:21 pm : link
1 - CB Trae Waynes - We went BPA and were VERY pleased when he fell to us here. This makes losing our 2 starting CB's a little easier.

2 - ILB Benardrick McKinney - The retirement of Patrick Willis and Chris Borland open up a hole at inside linebacker, in the 9ers system they can do a decent job of letting him do what he does best, which is tackle.

3 - DE Mario Edwards Jr - He has the versatility to play end or tackle in the NFL. He also could serve as a five-technique in a 3-4 defense. VERY surprised he lasted this long!

4 - TE Jesse James - Last season, Vernon Davis and Vance McDonald caught only 28 passes combined. At 6-foot-7 and 261 pounds, James brings something to the table that can’t be coached – size. That makes him a very dangerous weapon, especially in the red zone.

4 - OG Jeremiah Poutasi - The whole 49ers OLine is shaky. Losing Mike Iupati in FA hurt. Poutasi played LT at Utah, but projects to G in the pros. He's versatility will help.

5 - WR Vince Mayle - Picking up Torrey Smith was a BIG plus. With Mayle, they have a guy they could potentially work with and mold. Giving him a chance to learn from a receiver like Anquan Boldin could be just the type of situation that he needs to become an NFL starter.

6 - OLB Jake Ryan- Ryan will have no problem working as hard as anyone on the team, and he can provide some versatility on defense for the 49ers
Matt  
Mike in NY : 4/16/2015 1:21 pm : link
Since I am going to be out of town starting tomorrow and I am doing stuff this evening I will send you a list before I go out so that when I am up you can just fire my pick. At this point unless something unforeseen happens there are a number of guys I have ranked similarly and with one pick left I would just take the top guy on my list anyway so no need to overthink things
damn was looking at both Jones and  
DCPollaro : 4/16/2015 1:23 pm : link
Jake Ryan with my next pick for the Cardinals
RE: damn was looking at both Jones and  
Optimus-NY : 4/16/2015 1:29 pm : link
In comment 12236066 DCPollaro said:
Quote:
Jake Ryan with my next pick for the Cardinals



Sucks to be you! lol
Chiefs  
English Alaister : 4/16/2015 1:32 pm : link
Just took Rakeem Nunez-Roches, DT, Southern Miss

Thought he was good value here. We think he can play end in a 3-4 alignment and can move inside on passing downs.
RE: Chiefs  
Mike in NY : 4/16/2015 1:34 pm : link
In comment 12236086 English Alaister said:
Quote:
Just took Rakeem Nunez-Roches, DT, Southern Miss

Thought he was good value here. We think he can play end in a 3-4 alignment and can move inside on passing downs.


His stock appears to be rising. Good value at this point
Buffalo (NJGiantFan84) is on the clock until 3:30 pm EST  
Optimus-NY : 4/16/2015 1:45 pm : link
194. Buffalo (NJGiantFan84)
195. Houston (Dirty Old Beckham)
196. Philadelphia (Chris in Philly)
197. Cincinnati (Matt G)
198. Arizona (DCPollaro)
199. Pittsburgh (Gmen-in-SC)
200. Detroit (YAJ2112)

NOTE:
There are only 24 picks to go until we complete our Mock Draft for this year. Pick #217 belonging to Kansas City (English Alaister) will be our Mr. Irrelevant.
2015 Draft in the books for the Jaguars  
Kevin in CT : 4/16/2015 1:55 pm : link
The Jacksonville Jaguars are very happy with their haul in this year’s 2015 class. We went in with a plan and for the most part stuck with it throughout.

First Round: Did not hesitate to take Leonard Williams out USC as to me he is the best player in the class bar none. He can wreak havoc on an offensive line whenever he wants and he loves the game. Has the potential to be a star almost immediately. Really happy that Winston and Marriota when 1-2.

Second Round: Nelson Agholor another USC product was easily my favorite pick in this draft. Agholor has the route running skills and speed to be a starter from Day 1. He should immediately start off as a dangerous return man. To me, Agholor is right up there with Cooper, White, and Parker in terms of talent.

Third Round: Kurtis Drummond my top free safety in the 2015 class. He has the potential to be a good one in my opinion. Drummond is a very smart and heady player who has outstanding ball skills and was a leader on a very good defensive Michigan State team.

Fourth Round: David Cobb was a running back I considered taking in the third round and really hoped that he would last until my pick in the fourth round and glad he did. Cobb is being overlooked by a lot of so called draft experts but all this guy does is produce. He may not have a second gear that some other running backs have but he just gets the job done. Hard runner that isn’t afraid to lower his shoulder to get the extra yard or two.

Fifth Round: The Jaguars took their highest remaining player on their board at the time and it was Jordan Hicks a linebacker out of Texas. Jordan Hicks put up some great numbers at the combine and is a proven leader at the linebacker position for the Longhorns. By all accounts, Hicks loves the game and will spend extra time watching film.

Sixth Round: The Jaguars really wanted Sean Hickey or Jacoby Glenn to last to their pick. We were really sweating out the last couple picks after Hickey was chosen. Glenn did not perform well at the combine but he is a flat out player and has the potential to be a steal for the Jaguars. All he did at UCF was produce. He is the ball hawk that the Jaguars need and they hope he will be able to step in sooner than later.
Wow, the 6th round is moving faster than I thought  
MadPlaid : 4/16/2015 2:01 pm : link
However, my wish list is taking a beating. I hope the guys I have my eye on are still there when it is my turn.
There's one guy I want that's still there.  
Optimus-NY : 4/16/2015 2:06 pm : link
I just e-mailed Matt about him. If I had another pick, I'd run to the podium and select him for the Fish.
Wish we could do a 7th round  
Optimus-NY : 4/16/2015 2:07 pm : link
:-(
Chris is up  
Mike in NY : 4/16/2015 2:08 pm : link
I wonder how many already selected players he will take or will he grab an Oregon Duck
Matt - before I bow out  
Andy in Halifax : 4/16/2015 2:12 pm : link
I wanted to offer a big thanks for your impressive work again! Thanks.

You make this awesome and we're lucky to have you run it for us.
Here are my picks for the Fish:  
Optimus-NY : 4/16/2015 2:13 pm : link
Round 1 - (#14 overall) - Ereck Flowers, OT, Miami
Round 2 - (#47 overall) - Phillip Dorsett, WR, Miami
Round 3 - NONE
Round 4 - (#114 overall) - Doran Grant, CB, Ohio State
Round 5a - (#149 overall) - Chris Hackett, SS, TCU
Round 5b - (#150 overall) - Karlos Williams, RB, Florida State
Round 6 - (#191 overall) - Taiwan Jones, ILB, Michigan State


I'll discuss them in detail later when I'm feeling better. I at least wanted to list them here for now. I wish I could have added another DE/DT/OG, but there are only so many picks. There's always UDFA and Veteran Free Agency. Those are purely for need. I feel I did the best I could by not reaching for need, and sticking to value. Karlos Williams stood out to me in the 5th (the Dolphins don't really need another RB), so that's an example of that thinking.
Eagles select...  
Chris in Philly : 4/16/2015 2:24 pm : link
Ray Drew, DE, Georgia

He never quite lived up to his recruiting hype, but he's a hard worker and a good kid and we think he can be a better pro than he ever was in college.
Assuming we're not doing...  
Chris in Philly : 4/16/2015 2:28 pm : link
a seventh round, our draft is in the books:

R1 - 20 *Landon Collins, SS, Alabama
R2-52 *Sammie Coates, WR, Auburn
R3-84 Josh Shaw, CB, Southern California
R4-113 Tony Lippett, WR, Michigan State
R5-145 *Mike Davis, RB, South Carolina
R5-156 MyCole Pruitt, TE, Southern Illinois
R6-196 Ray Drew, DE, Georgia

Striking lack of Oregon players (and PAC12 in general), but we feel pretty good that our coaching and sports medicine staffs will get the most out of these young men.
Really good article  
Lionhart28 : 4/16/2015 2:33 pm : link
on "stoutness" and qualities/responsibilities of a NT in a 2-gap 3-4.
2 Gap Nose Tackles - ( New Window )
Lion  
MadPlaid : 4/16/2015 2:39 pm : link
Thanks for linking the article. It makes me happier with my selection of Parry in the 5th round.
Sorry guys... Pick coming shortly  
Matt G : 4/16/2015 2:48 pm : link
...
Mad  
Lionhart28 : 4/16/2015 2:53 pm : link
I had him on my short list, as well. Had to add a couple of DL and an ILB with how bad the Browns run D was last year.
RE: Mad  
MadPlaid : 4/16/2015 2:55 pm : link
In comment 12236288 Lionhart28 said:
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I had him on my short list, as well. Had to add a couple of DL and an ILB with how bad the Browns run D was last year.

If I hadn't taken Parry in the 5th, would you have snapped him up in the 6th?
Considered a small school DB prspect, but  
Matt G : 4/16/2015 2:58 pm : link
ultimately stuck to my board and went with Chickillo...
No round 7...  
Matt G : 4/16/2015 3:05 pm : link
There just isn't enough competition for similar players as most have their unique favorite sleepers... But feel free to select your Top 5 UDFAs as soon as RD6 concludes and I will keep track for posterity (ie bragging rights)... I will post last year's UDFAs over the weekend...
Matt G  
Pete from Woodstock : 4/16/2015 3:15 pm : link
here are my Top 5 UDFA's
1- Max Valles OLB, 2- Thomas Rawles RB, 3- Tyeler Davison DT, 4- Nick Boyle TE, 5- Frank Clark DE
Pete  
Matt G : 4/16/2015 3:19 pm : link
First come, first served but only after the final RD6 pick has posted... Only way I can think to do it...
UDFA  
Mike in NY : 4/16/2015 3:21 pm : link
I would permit duplication because to find 160 names would be a bit much. Once it is over I will put some of my top remaining guys at each position with the priority ones bolded or something like that because the way this is going I will have more than 5
Mike in NY  
Matt G : 4/16/2015 3:29 pm : link
Not everyone will partake in UDFA... Those who do, will be awarded players on a first come, first served basis... Splitting players among multiple GMs somewhat defeats the purpose IMO...
Also, I have over 750 players listed on the spreadsheet  
Matt G : 4/16/2015 3:31 pm : link
Who have not yet been drafted...
Fair enough Matt  
Mike in NY : 4/16/2015 3:44 pm : link
fortunately some of the guys I would consider as UDFA in this draft are a bit more obscure so I may have a shot at landing 5 even if the draft ends while I am away
I'm heading into a two hr mtg and then happy hour...  
Matt G : 4/16/2015 3:51 pm : link
Won't be back on till later today... Looks like we will have a conclusion to the draft tomorrow...
Some good picks here...my favorites are going fast.  
yatqb : 4/16/2015 5:06 pm : link
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Browns Draft  
Lionhart28 : 4/16/2015 5:35 pm : link
Shane Ray, OLB - Missouri
6'3"/245 lbs, 33" arms, Pro Day: 4.64, 10' broad, 4.53ss
2014 SEC defensive player of the year, SEC leader in sacks and TFLs. Consensus first team AA. Explosive athlete, who plays with great power as well. Explodes off the line and plays with passion. Tenacious football player with strong hands and upper body. Can drop into coverage as well. The only knock on him is the lack of ideal length, but he was a great value where we got him. With Mingo a question mark, we need another pass rusher opposite Paul Kruger to add to one of the leagues top pass defenses and we think we got a great one.


Todd Gurley, RB - Georgia
6'1"/222 lbs
I have him listed as a top 3 overall talent in this draft class if his knee checks out. Rare blend of strength and explosivness. Great size and power but can break the long run. He's the best RB I've seen come out of college since Adrian Peterson. Great receiver out of the backfield, a true workhorse, 3-down back. In 2014, 61.9% of his yardage was after contact, rarely fumbles. While the Browns have some good young RBs, none are even close to Gurley's talent. On an offense completely void of weapons, we could not pass on adding a possible generational talent.
SY's Take:"*Gurley would have been a top 4 player in this draft class if it weren’t for the torn ACL. He fits on the NYG roster if he falls to the 2nd round pick. RB may not be a need but I don’t think this kind of player can be passed on if he is there unless there is another guy there at or very near his grade."

Maxx Williams, TE - Minnesota
6'4"/249 lbs, 4.78, 34.5" vert, 117" broad, 4.37ss (all top 5 at the position)
Decent speed, very good acceleration. Very dangerous after the catch, 82% of his catches were 1st downs or TDs. Needs the NFL strength program and some technique work on his routes, but he's the consensus #1 TE in a weak draft class and fills a huge need for 1) Playmakers on an awful offense and 2)a TE that can threaten the seam with Jordan cameron moving on.
SY's Take:"*I don’t see Williams as a first round caliber talent but with this TE class being overly weak, he could sneak in there somewhere. I think he is a tough kid that can make a lot of touch catches, but he isn’t the kind of TE that scares anyone. We aren’t talking about a supreme athlete here and really, he isn’t that good of a blocker. Weak lower body. That would bother me if I brought him in to be a starting TE unless we were talking about an elite athlete and pass catcher."


Rashad Greene, WR - Florida State
5'11"/182 lbs, 4.53 - 40 yds, 36.5" vert, 4.12ss
2014 biletnikoff finalist, 1st team all ACC, 2nd team AA. FSU career leader in receptions and receiving yards. Great route runner who is extremely smooth. Elusive after the catch and adjusts well to the ball. He is a little slightly built but is just an excellent football player. Not going to be a #1 star receiver but should be a great #2.
SY's Take: "*Sure handed and reliable underneath route runner. The lack of size is overblown, he is as smooth a receiver you will find and can be a weapon for an offense than relies on WRs getting themselves open via quick routes and savvy reading of the defense."

Ramik Wilson, ILB - Georgia
6'2"/237 lbs, 33" arms, 4.77, 23 reps
Three year starter, plays downhill against the run. Moves extremely well laterally, plays faster sideline-to-sideline than his timed speed. Very good tackler. Right now he's a liability in coverage, but his athleticism should allow him to improve there. Comes from a 3-4 at Georgia. The Browns run defense was atrocious last year, Dansby can still play but he's getting long in the tooth and Craig Robertson is mediocre and undersized. Wilson should be able to start at the WILB spot right away and help against the run


Leterrius Walton, DL - Central Michigan
6'5"/320 lbs, 32" arms, 25 reps, 5.25
Relatively new to the DL, moved from the OL and keeps getting better. Some explosiveness off the snap, can rush the passer as well as play the run. Projects well to the 5-technique for us. Still improving, needs some polish but should be a solid starter in a few years.
SY's Take: "Another small school guy with an intriguing tool set and developed skills. Walton is more than a run plug, he showed some good movement between the tackles and if the light turns on, you are looking at a starting caliber player that can fit multiple schemes. He’s a guy I think sneaks in to the top 3 rounds."


Craig Mager, CB - Texas State
5'11"/201 lbs, 4.44, 130" broad, 4.07ss, 17 reps
Small school prospect, 4 year starter, who plays with fire and emotion. Loves to hit, great athlete with quick-twitch skills. Average instincts, but played really well at the East-West Shrine game. Super competitive, high ceiling guy.


Xavier Williams, DT - Northern Iowa
6'2"/320 lbs, 30 reps
Former wrestler who plays with great leverage and natural strength. Good effort and toughness, very successful taking on double teams. Plays with great quickness off of the snap for a man of his size. Played extremely well at the East/West Shrine Bowl. His low base and ability to play with leverage has us projecting him to a future at the nose with some better technique and lower body strength.


Dres Anderson, WR - Utah
6'1"/187 lbs, Pro Day: 4.47, 4.22 SS, 6.83 3-Cone
Knee injury ended his 2014 season early, but a great pro day workout without a brace shows how his healing process has going. Thought to be a 2nd day pick coming into the season, we are thrilled with the value here with our final pick. The son of "Flipper" Anderson. Very explosive, great acceleration and tough after the catch. 4-time academic all Pac-12. Leaves Utah ranked in the top six all time in receiving yards, 100 yd games, td catches even after missing more than half of the season.
Ravens Draft  
Mike in NY : 4/16/2015 6:39 pm : link
Round 1 - Malcom Brown/5T/Texas
Although a tad shorter than ideal, Brown was too good to pass up especially with the need caused by the trade of Haloti Ngata

Round 2 - Devin Smith/WR/Ohio State
The Ravens lost Torrey Smith and Jacoby Jones in the off season and Steve Smith Jr. isn't getting any younger. Electric with the ball in his hands, Smith will make defenses respect the deep ball

Round 3 - D'Joun Smith/CB/Florida Atlantic
CB is a big need for the Ravens and Smith is a playmaker with intriguing upside

Round 4 - Reese Dismukes/C/Auburn
Zuttah is an 8 year vet and the depth behind him is questionable. Also represents solid value

Round 4 - Jeff Heuerman/TE/Ohio State
Another value pick. Dennis Pitta is making a lot of money to sit on IR. With the Ravens cap issues Heuerman can develop into a nice complement to 2014 3rd Rounder Crockett Gilmore so Pitta can be dumped

Round 4 - Markus Golden/OLB/Missouri
Tweener who will aid the pass rush after the Ravens lost McPhee in Free Agency and others are getting older

Round 5 - Kenny Bell/WR/Nebraska
Impressive combine and I feel a lot of untapped potential. Can also help in return game

Round 5 - Cameron Artis-Payne/RB/Auburn
With Rice and Pierce gone the Ravens are thin at RB. Finally need met some value

Round 5 - Mitch Morse/OL/Missouri
Too good to pass up here. Will provide depth across the OL which the Ravens could use

Round 6 - Alani Fua/OLB/BYU
With a number of players ranked similarly had to throw our west coast scouts a bone. May be destined for practice squad but upside with a solid 40 at Indy and tremendous 3 cone and shuttle times
Indianapolis (GoTerps) is on the clock until 11 am EST tomorrow,  
Optimus-NY : 4/16/2015 10:18 pm : link
205. Indianapolis (GoTerps)
206. Green Bay (MadPlaid)
207. Indianapolis (GoTerps) (from Sea)
208. Tennessee (yatqb) (from NE)
209. Seattle (sjnyfan) (comp)
210. Green Bay (MadPlaid) (comp)
211. Houston (Modus Operandi) (comp)
212. Green Bay (MadPlaid) (comp)


NOTE:
There are only 13 picks left in our Mock Draft.
I will likely be out from about 11 till 5 tomorrow.  
yatqb : 4/16/2015 10:27 pm : link
If so would someone pick the top rated defensive front seven player for me?
No problem, yatqb  
Matt G : 4/16/2015 10:44 pm : link
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RE: No problem, yatqb  
yatqb : 4/16/2015 11:24 pm : link
In comment 12237115 Matt G said:
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Thanks, Matt. First round of golf for the year unless it rains us out.
Wow...  
Chris in Philly : 4/16/2015 11:25 pm : link
13 picks to go. A good time to thank Matt again for the exceptional work as "commissioner". Very few generic picks, lots of engagement, and another great job by Matt. Thanks fucker!
RE: Wow...  
Anakim : 4/17/2015 1:23 am : link
In comment 12237148 Chris in Philly said:
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13 picks to go. A good time to thank Matt again for the exceptional work as "commissioner". Very few generic picks, lots of engagement, and another great job by Matt. Thanks fucker!


Thanks Matt!
Good morning, My fellow Mock Drafters  
MadPlaid : 4/17/2015 9:07 am : link
I'm here. I need to review who's available. My board has been decimated. I don't like who's available who fit an obvious need for the Pack. I'm tempted to take a guy purely because I like him. Not necessarily the BPA or a need. Just think the guy would look good in green and yellow. I hope to have my pick in soon.
And down the stretch they come...  
Matt G : 4/17/2015 9:12 am : link
Broncos Draft  
jlukes : 4/17/2015 9:36 am : link
Round 1
T.J. Clemmings, OT, Pitt

Round 2
Stephone Anthony, MLB, Clemson

Round 3
Tyler Lockett, WR, Kansas State

Round 4
B.J. Finney, C, Kansas State

Round 5
Terry Williams, NT, ECU

Round 5
Blake Bell, TE, Oklahoma

Round 6
Imoan Claiborn, S/CB, Northwestern State
And the pick is in  
MadPlaid : 4/17/2015 9:38 am : link
Fowler doesn't fill an obvious need, especially after GB recently resigned starting FB, John Kuhn, but he just seems like a really great player to have on your team. During his career at the Crimson Tide, he lined up as RB, H-Back, TE and FB. After displaying surprising athleticism and quickness at the Senior Bowl practices, it would seem he was underutilized by Alabama. I think he is capable of a lot more. One analyst compared him to Tom Rathaman, I like that kind of player on my team.
Chargers Draft  
armstead98 : 4/17/2015 10:17 am : link
First of all, thanks Matt for letting me jump in and take over the Chargers. I look forward to doing this next year and beyond.

Round 1 (Pick 17) - Andrus Peat OT

This was picked from a generic list and gave me the opportunity to take over the Chargers. What's interesting is that this is the player I would have taken anyway. Peat is the top player on my board and addresses a huge need. He gives us the opportunity to move Fluker inside while presenting a possibility at a long term solution at LT.

Round 2 (Pick 48) - Jay Ajayi RB

This is the running back that I wanted and am thrilled to come away with. Ajayi is the next Marshawn Lynch / Steven Jackson and is going to bring a much needed physical presence to the Chargers running game. Sy's #2 RB and his writeup:

Ajayi brings everything to the table that the NFL wants out of a running back. He has size and open field speed to runaway from defenders, but also shows a quick change of direction and smooth agility in traffic. Ajayi can break tackles several ways, consistently gaining extra yards. He is a true three down back that could be starting in the NFL his rookie season if the situation presented itself.


Round 3 (Pick 83) - Lorenzo Maudlin OLB

Maudlin provides some much needed youth to the pass rush. He's a playmaker that will likely contribute on special teams year 1 and a situation pass rusher.


Round 4 (Pick 117) - Antwan Goodley WR

Antwan Goodley is an interesting prospect and I was surprised to see him still available. He will compete for roles on special teams and will compete for a role as a WR.

Round 5 (Pick 153) Zach Wagenmann OLB

Perhaps too early with this pick but he was a player I wanted to come away with. He competed at a lower level in the Big Sky but absolutely dominated there. He made a big impression at the combine besting many of the higher rated prospects. Here's Sy's writeup on him:

Not sure this guy can hack it as a 4-3 DE, as I just don’t see the body type. But if NYG can create a role for a situational pass rusher from a LB type spot, Wagenmann is worth a day 3 look. At a lower level of college football, he looked like Clay Matthews with his explosion off the ball and relentless pursuit of the action. He is a physical guy that had a nice showing at the NFLPA Collegiate Bowl.

Round 6 (Pick 192) - Mike Hull ILB

Hull is a bit undersized and not the most athletic but had massive production. He was the linebacker of the year in the Big 10 which is nothing to sneeze at. Hoping he can compete on specials and bulk up and could potentially hack it as an ILB.
Armstead  
Lionhart28 : 4/17/2015 10:34 am : link
Mike Hull is a hell of a football player. Very quick sideline to sideline too. Great feel in coverage, his problem is that he's been a little injury prone and his size doesn't give you a lot of confidence in that changing. I could see him being a great WILB for a 3-4, where they can keep him clean.
Thanks Lion  
armstead98 : 4/17/2015 11:08 am : link
With late round picks I think you either need to go freak athlete with big upside or highly productive college players from big programs. In this case I went with the latter in Hull. Too often these Big 10 linebackers get written off because of measurables only to continue to be players in the NFL. Hoping that Hull is the next of many.
Just a heads up  
Matt G : 4/17/2015 11:43 am : link
At the conclusion of the draft, I will post the full round by round selections in the SELECTIONS thread... Please double check your picks to confirm accuracy... Then later this evening, I will post a separate FINAL RESULTS thread with the team by team breakdowns...
Thanks, Matt  
MadPlaid : 4/17/2015 11:48 am : link
Really appreciate the extra effort and bonus material.
Matt, one idea  
armstead98 : 4/17/2015 11:57 am : link
If you share the final file with me, I'll go through and try to come up with a system to "score" everyone's draft relative to the real thing. This obviously can't happen until after the draft and I'll need a way to get the real picks into excel but I don't think that will be too hard.

I think it would be fun to compare how people did relative to what the pros do. Of course the pros are wrong more than they're right but it's something I can take a shot at if people are interested.
armstead  
MadPlaid : 4/17/2015 12:07 pm : link
if you are willing to do that, I know many of the owners would really appreciate it. Thank you
armstead  
Lionhart28 : 4/17/2015 12:22 pm : link
I am happy to help with that as well. I usually track where guys go in the actual draft as compared to our draft anyways. Maybe we can alternate rounds or days or something...
armystead  
Optimus-NY : 4/17/2015 12:22 pm : link
That would be AWESOME! Thanks!
Green Bay's pick  
MadPlaid : 4/17/2015 12:25 pm : link
Fuck it! I needed an ILB. Bryce Hager appears to fit the requirements. Give it your best shot, kid.
Houston (Modus Operandi) is on the clock until 2:18 pm EST today.  
Optimus-NY : 4/17/2015 12:25 pm : link
211. Houston (Modus Operandi) (comp)
212. Green Bay (MadPlaid) (comp)
213. Carolina (FatMan in Charlotte) (comp)
214. Seattle (sjnyfan) (comp)
215. St. Louis (BigBlueTT) (comp)
216. Houston (Dirty Old Beckham) (comp)
217. Kansas City (English Alaister) (comp)


NOTE:
There are only 7 more picks left in our Mock Draft.
Ok  
armstead98 : 4/17/2015 12:25 pm : link
I have some ideas about how to do this. I'll give it a crack once we get the results. I may need some help with getting and cleaning up the data but I don't think it will be too hard.
This is turning into a MadPlaid and ModusOperandi 6th round  
Optimus-NY : 4/17/2015 12:29 pm : link
!
Correction  
Optimus-NY : 4/17/2015 12:33 pm : link
Houston (Old Dirty Beckham) is on the clock until 2:18 pm EST today.
Clark is an excellent pick  
sjnyfan : 4/17/2015 1:29 pm : link
if he can stay out of trouble. I asked Sy about him earlier today. I think he's a Day 2 pick if not for the character concerns.
My Draft for the Green Bay Packers  
MadPlaid : 4/17/2015 1:55 pm : link
Round 1
Arik Armstead, DE, Oregon

Round 2
P.J. Williams, CB, Florida State

Round 3
Jaquiski Tartt, SS, Samford

Round 4
Tyler Kroft, TE, Rutgers

Round 5
David Parry, NT, Stanford

Round 6.1
Jalston Fowler, FB, Alabama

Round 6.2
Bryce Hager, ILB, Baylor

Round 6.3
Terrance Magee, RB, LSU
Matt  
MadPlaid : 4/17/2015 1:57 pm : link
Should we e-mail you are list of UDFA's we are interested in, or should we submit our list on the selections thread?
St. Louis (BigBlueTT) is on the clock until 5:32 pm EST today.  
Optimus-NY : 4/17/2015 3:44 pm : link
215. St. Louis (BigBlueTT) (comp)
216. Houston (Dirty Old Beckham) (comp)
217. Kansas City (English Alaister) (comp)

NOTE:
There are only 3 picks left in our Mock Draft.
RE: Matt  
Matt G : 4/17/2015 3:52 pm : link
In comment 12238015 MadPlaid said:
Quote:
Should we e-mail you are list of UDFA's we are interested in, or should we submit our list on the selections thread?

Post em here after the next pick
Tray Walker  
Matt G : 4/17/2015 3:53 pm : link
Was really torn between him and Chickillo... Was really hoping to land him as a priority UDFA
RE: RE: Matt  
MadPlaid : 4/17/2015 4:01 pm : link
In comment 12238222 Matt G said:
Quote:
Post em here after the next pick


Thank you, will do.
My first two  
Matt G : 4/17/2015 4:03 pm : link
UDFA Pickups:
1) Malcolm Brown, RB, Texas
2) Josue Matias, OG, FSU
Kansas City pounce on udfa  
English Alaister : 4/17/2015 4:05 pm : link
Deshazor Everett
And then there were none  
MadPlaid : 4/17/2015 4:05 pm : link
Yea! We got it done with plenty of time to spare.

Below please find my list of UDFA I would like to see at the Green Bay Packers training camps:

JaCorey Shepherd, CB, Kansas
Joey Mbu, NT, Houston
Chaz Green, OT, Florida
Amarlo Herrera, ILB, Georgia
Jeff Luc, ILB, Cinncinnati

Thank you, Matt, for the awesomeness that is you. You really make this an easy and enjoyable process.

Best!
I hope I wasn't being selfish by naming 5 UDFA  
MadPlaid : 4/17/2015 4:07 pm : link
:-)
RE: I hope I wasn't being selfish by naming 5 UDFA  
Matt G : 4/17/2015 4:15 pm : link
In comment 12238250 MadPlaid said:
Quote:
:-)

Nope, 5 is the max... I just lost a few toward the end.. Still need to find three
Please confirm your picks on the SELECTION thread  
Matt G : 4/17/2015 4:17 pm : link
I posted all 6 RDs... I will post the FINAL RESULTS this evening...
Cowboy picks as listed are correct Matt  
Rick in Dallas : 4/17/2015 4:19 pm : link
You did a great job Matt. Thanks for all your hard work on the mock draft.
Matt  
MadPlaid : 4/17/2015 4:21 pm : link
Thank you

I almost used my last pick on 3 of them. Decided to go with Magee because to me he seemed the most likely to be drafted by one of the other teams.
Matt  
MadPlaid : 4/17/2015 4:24 pm : link
most of my picks are fine. However, picks 209 and 210 are mixed up. I selected Bryce Hager, and Seattle selected the other guy.

Thank you!
I think Malcom Brown the RB got drafted  
YAJ2112 : 4/17/2015 4:38 pm : link
by Anak maybe?
According to the Selection Thread  
MadPlaid : 4/17/2015 4:41 pm : link
Malcom Brown, the DE/DT was drafted by Mike
weird  
YAJ2112 : 4/17/2015 4:43 pm : link
don't know where I got that from since he didn't even mention Brown, let alone pick him.
Minnesota's picks look good  
Jay in Saratoga : 4/17/2015 5:15 pm : link
.
My picks are right  
Kevin in CT : 4/17/2015 6:43 pm : link
I noticed that you had Jacoby Glenn auto drafted for me which is wrong.
My five UDFA picks  
Kevin in CT : 4/17/2015 6:49 pm : link
JJ Nelson WR/KR UAB
Nick Boyle TE Deleware
Kyle Emmanuel LB NDSU
Geremy Davis WR UConn
Brandon Bridge QB South Alabama
Ravens UDFA  
Mike in NY : 4/17/2015 7:13 pm : link
Terry Poole/OL/San Diego State
Angelo Blackson/DT/Auburn
Zach Vigil/ILB/Utah State
Erick Dargan/SS/Oregon
Cedric Thompson/FS/Minnesota

Apologize for spelling using cell phone
oh yeah  
Mike in NY : 4/17/2015 7:17 pm : link
My draft picks look correct
Crap forgot to claim my UDFA's  
sjnyfan : 4/17/2015 8:56 pm : link
And I'm missing out. Here's my five:

Zach Zenner, RB, South Dakota State
Laurence Gibson, OT, Virginia Tech
Louis Trinca-Pasat, DT, Iowa
Hutson Mason, QB, Georgia
Martrell Spaight, LB, Arkansas
Crap...  
Chris in Philly : 4/17/2015 11:53 pm : link
Gotta get a few UDFA in before you fucks steal them all.

Cedric Reed, DE, Texas
Christian Covington, DT, Rice
Austin Shepherd, OL, Alabama
Justin Manton, K, Louisiana-Monroe
Tony Washington, LB, Oregon
My picks for the Dolphins are fine  
Optimus-NY : 4/18/2015 8:09 am : link
Thank you Matt! Looks like I missed out on UDFA.
Here are 5 UDFAs I want that are left:  
Optimus-NY : 4/18/2015 8:56 am : link
1. Jon Feliciano, OG, Univ. of Miami (Fl.)
2. E.J. Bibbs, TE, Iowa St.
3. Darius Philon, DT, Arkansas
4. Connor Halliday, QB, Washnigton St.
5. JaCorey Shepherd, CB, Kansas
Scratch JaCorey Shepherd, CB, Kansas because MadPlaid  
Optimus-NY : 4/18/2015 9:02 am : link
signed him as an UDFA already.

In his place I'm signing the following player:

Julian Wilson, CB, Oklahoma
Here is the corrected version of my 5 Rookie UDFAs:  
Optimus-NY : 4/18/2015 9:04 am : link
1. Jon Feliciano, OG, Univ. of Miami (Fl.)
2. E.J. Bibbs, TE, Iowa St.
3. Darius Philon, DT, Arkansas
4. Connor Halliday, QB, Washnigton St.
5. Julian Wilson, CB, Oklahoma
I'm just gonna say that despite you guys TRYING to sign UDFAs,  
yatqb : 4/18/2015 6:07 pm : link
the Titans will be incredibly aggressive on this front, so I'm just gonna take about 3 guys from each of the lists you've made and say they are now Titans. Sorry, but that's just the way it is.
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