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Matt G : 4/1/2015 9:27 am
We will use this as a discussion thread to keep the picks thread uncluttered. These threads will be used for the duration of the entire draft and will need to be bumped occasionally to push them back to page 1 of the forum.

Once a team is on the clock, they will have two hours to make a selection. If a team goes on the clock after 4pm, their two hour window will roll over to the next day. For example, if you go on the clock at 4:30pm, you will have until 9:30 am to make a selection. Picks may be made between 6pm and 9am if GMs are online and following the draft thread. The time limit only applies during the 9am to 6pm timeframe. If the two hour time limit expires, I will make a pick using any list that the GM for the team has sent me in advance (send lists to the email address in my profile) or in the absence of a list, I will use the GBN Big Board with a little discretion so as not make an obvious dumb pick (ie: Indianapolis Colts won’t be taking a QB in the 1st round this year). If a GM misses two consecutive picks without providing a prospect list or making some form of contact with me (email or posting on the draft thread) BlueManFu, BigBlueDownTheShore, odunde and uncledave will have priority to fill the vacancy. Otherwise, the spot will be reassigned to one of the BBIers that didn't get into the draft but were active in the draft discussion thread.

Once again, I strongly encourage all GMs to utilize the BBI Mock Draft Spreadsheet . The spreadsheet contains the draft order (RD1-6) by team and GM with a fairly comprehensive list of both available and taken prospects based on the GBN Big Board (as well as several other prospects that did not make the GBN Big Board). I will try to keep the spreadsheet and thread updated as often as possible. I have saved the GBN Big Board (3/27) for your reference as well.
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Nice pick Andy  
Eric on Li : 4/1/2015 10:09 pm : link
Adding Collins to mix gives them the best OL they've had since 2010. Very solid way to start things off.
Andy: The pick is fine...  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/1/2015 10:37 pm : link
...but if you started a trend by appending that sh!tty, slow-loading video, I'm going to petition Eric to ban you. For once the Picks-Only thread was, you know, only picks.
I agree with the pick Andy  
Optimus-NY : 4/1/2015 10:39 pm : link
I think the Giants are defo goin OL in either round 1 or 2. Collins seems like their type, the more I think about it.
Really wanted one of the 2 OL who went before me  
BigBlue TT : 4/1/2015 10:43 pm : link
But the Rams need a playmaker just as bad. FWIW, I think Parker will be the NYG pick in a few weeks.
Here are the draft picks so far in order:  
Optimus-NY : 4/2/2015 12:14 am : link
1. Tampa Bay (Jay on the Island) - QB, Jameis Winston, Florida State
2. Tennessee (yatqb) - QB, Marcus Mariota, Oregon
3. Jacksonville (Kevin in CT) - DE/DT, Leonard Williams, USC
4. Oakland (Amtoft) - DE, Dante Fowler, Jr., Florida
5. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir) - OLB, Vic Beasley, Clemson
6. NY Jets (Jon in NYC) - WR, Amari Cooper, Alabama
7. Chicago (Anakim) - WR, Kevin White, West Virginia
8. Atlanta (NoGainDayne) - OG/OT, Brandon Scherff, Iowa
9. NY Giants (Andy in Halifax) - OT, La'El Collins, LSU
10. St. Louis (BigBlueTT) - WR, DeVante Parker, Louisville
11. Minnesota (Jay in Saratoga) - On the clock
12. Cleveland (Lionhart28)
13. New Orleans (Saos1n)
14. Miami (Optimus-NY)
Pretty excited to get Shelton @ 11  
Jay in Saratoga : 4/2/2015 7:37 am : link
I had him as the 5th overall player on my board. Granted my board was slanted toward scheme fits and needs for Minnesota, so I devalued QBs and smaller edge rushers who would fit better in a 3-4 front.

While defensive tackle certainly is not a need with Joseph and Floyd on the roster, the Vikings were able to get a potentially dominant player at the position and transform the middle of the line into a strength that should create opportunities on the edges for DEs and LBs.
I tried to embed a youtube video  
Andy in Halifax : 4/2/2015 7:49 am : link
So consider yourself lucky Blogger!
Emails sent to both CLE & NO this am  
Matt G : 4/2/2015 8:30 am : link
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Not to say Collins isn't a good player  
SirYesSir : 4/2/2015 8:49 am : link
or won't be a successful player, but man it's hard for me to bite down and take a lineman with such a high pick...

getting a pick in the top ten should bring back uniquely talented players, game changers. Collins here would seem to me (maybe i'm shortsighted) a missed opportunity for a special player.
I was hoping that would happen  
Andy in Halifax : 4/2/2015 8:53 am : link
Just don't see who that was based on the first 8 picks. Too much risk with Dupree imo. One of Ray, Dupree or Gregory could be an absolute stud - I just don't know if it'll happen in a 4-3.

My ideal draft would have been Cooper in 1 then come back at OL at 40. White would have been given lots of thought too. Bith were taken. Ended up taking BPA which happened to fit a need.
I'm tied up in mtg most of today...  
Matt G : 4/2/2015 8:58 am : link
Hope everyone can keep the ball rolling...
3 more picks till the Fish select 14th  
Optimus-NY : 4/2/2015 9:12 am : link
Matt - I've got a 3-man board ready if I don't get to pick in the next few hours. I'll e-mail it to you should it com to that, just as we discussed. I'm home now, and not leaving for the airport for another 5 and a half hours or so.
Cleveland's pick is in  
Lionhart28 : 4/2/2015 9:15 am : link
I was hoping Parker or Shelton to drop here but still thrilled to add a dynamic pass rusher to challenge the disappointing Barkevious Mingo in Ray.
RE: Cleveland's pick is in  
Mike in NY : 4/2/2015 9:38 am : link
In comment 12214350 Lionhart28 said:
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I was hoping Parker or Shelton to drop here but still thrilled to add a dynamic pass rusher to challenge the disappointing Barkevious Mingo in Ray.


Good pick for the Browns. I am sure that San Francisco was hoping that Ray would fall to 15 as they lost a lot of LB this offseason
Hey, what the heck happened?  
section125 : 4/2/2015 9:43 am : link
I got my beers chilled and the popcorn bowl filled only to find that the draft started one day early.

Roger would never allow this to happen.
Mike  
Lionhart28 : 4/2/2015 10:29 am : link
Honestly, I might like Gregory as an OLB better with his length and array of pass rush moves but with Josh Gordon and Manziel, we can't take a chance on a character risk that high.
Flowers was my guy for the Fish  
Optimus-NY : 4/2/2015 10:34 am : link
He makes a lot of sense for them at 14. Need and value come together rather nicely.
I suspect people may gripe about that pick  
Andy in Halifax : 4/2/2015 10:37 am : link
But I really like it. I think he can be a killer RT.
ANdy  
Old Dirty Beckham : 4/2/2015 10:50 am : link
Did you consider Davonte Parker? I wouldn't but curious if you did.
Wow surprise pick for Miami  
Jay on the Island : 4/2/2015 10:51 am : link
I like Flowers a lot but they do have Albert at LT and last years 1st rounder James at RT.
RE: I suspect people may gripe about that pick  
Optimus-NY : 4/2/2015 10:55 am : link
In comment 12214477 Andy in Halifax said:
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But I really like it. I think he can be a killer RT.


Let 'em. This guy reminds me of Erik Williams from the 90s Cowboys. Nasty SOB.

Tweet comparing Erik Williams (ROT) from the 90s Cowboys' OL to Flowers
RE: Wow surprise pick for Miami  
Optimus-NY : 4/2/2015 10:56 am : link
In comment 12214518 Jay on the Island said:
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I like Flowers a lot but they do have Albert at LT and last years 1st rounder James at RT.


Someone's goin' to Guard in the interim. Power Foosball.
RE: RE: Wow surprise pick for Miami  
Jay on the Island : 4/2/2015 10:58 am : link
In comment 12214527 Optimus-NY said:
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In comment 12214518 Jay on the Island said:


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I like Flowers a lot but they do have Albert at LT and last years 1st rounder James at RT.



Someone's goin' to Guard in the interim. Power Foosball.


Makes sense their line has struggled for years and now it would be a major strength with Flowers playing guard for a year or two. He could then shift over to RT with James moving over to the left side when Albert begins to break down or if his play no longer warrants that big contract.
So how good is Trae Waynes?  
SirYesSir : 4/2/2015 10:58 am : link
It would be pretty damn odd to see a draft reach picks around 14-15 without a cb come off the board.

is is such a weak class that this is right? or are some of the bbi-drafters missing the boat on this kid?
Jay - exactly  
Optimus-NY : 4/2/2015 10:59 am : link
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San Fran with a steal at this point in the 1st!  
Jay in Saratoga : 4/2/2015 11:13 am : link
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49ers were going to go DLine here  
Pete from Woodstock : 4/2/2015 11:17 am : link
but were VERY surprised the #1 rated CB was available at 15... it makes sense since the Niners have lost both starting cornerbacks, Perrish Cox and Chris Culliver. With the draft being deep in DL prospects we are not worried about getting quality players in the next rounds.
Nice pick, Pete  
MadPlaid : 4/2/2015 11:21 am : link
the '9ers are going to need a lot of help on that D. Funny how the mighty have fallen. Just last year that unit was very good. Amazing how much has been lost due to free agency and retirements.
HOU was going Waynes  
Modus Operandi : 4/2/2015 11:30 am : link
until Pete snagged him. But I think Collins has a higher ceiling.
MadPlaid  
Pete from Woodstock : 4/2/2015 11:34 am : link
Their D is decimated!! Losing both CB's, Willis and Borland retiring and probably Justin Smith we NEED to restock with quality players! (trading down would probably be an option as well to get more picks! But not with Trae Waynes there!
Pete  
MadPlaid : 4/2/2015 11:42 am : link
need to start somewhere, and Waynes is a very nice first step.
Modus  
MadPlaid : 4/2/2015 11:44 am : link
wishing for the good old days. Dated yourself with that Oilers Freudian slip.
Of the 16 picks  
Mike in NY : 4/2/2015 11:47 am : link
6 were the same position as the one before it. Talk about not wanting to lose out in a run at a position
Matt  
MadPlaid : 4/2/2015 11:50 am : link
at least you got the team's name right. Ha
9 picks before mine at 26  
Mike in NY : 4/2/2015 12:04 pm : link
And only 3-4 guys left in the upper rows of my board before I get to guys that do not have surefire Round 1 grades
I'd be absolutely shocked  
Big Rick in FL : 4/2/2015 12:13 pm : link
If the Dolphins took Ereck Flowers. They just drafted Ja'Wuan James in the 1st last year and gave Brandon Albert an insane amount of money.
RE: Of the 16 picks  
Modus Operandi : 4/2/2015 12:47 pm : link
In comment 12214659 Mike in NY said:
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6 were the same position as the one before it. Talk about not wanting to lose out in a run at a position


It isn't that that I didn't want to lose out on a run. I give Waynes a slight edge over Collins, but I love Collins size/movement. Colossal potential.

With Houston needing help in the back 7 and the WRS and edge rushers all off the board, the two CBs were the only way to go there.

The other guy considered at 16 was Armstead, but had him ranked mu check lower.
Plus...  
Modus Operandi : 4/2/2015 12:49 pm : link
Houston wouldn't need to thrust Collins I my own a starting role. He can play behind Joseph for a year while he refines his technique.
I'm heading into a 1pm mtg...  
Matt G : 4/2/2015 12:53 pm : link
I've emailed SD to remind about his pick... If time expires, please select BPA (Andrus Peat) and move to KC... English Alastair asked me to give him an hour and then i will choose from his board...
Ugh!  
MadPlaid : 4/2/2015 1:45 pm : link
Our first missed pick. I made the selection pursuant to Matt's instructions.
It's a good pick for them O-line is clearly their top need  
Torrag : 4/2/2015 1:47 pm : link
Peat has big upside I wouldn't be surprised if it would have been uconns pick anyway.
RE: Ugh!  
yatqb : 4/2/2015 2:00 pm : link
In comment 12214894 MadPlaid said:
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Our first missed pick. I made the selection pursuant to Matt's instructions.


Good job, MadPlaid!

The draft is moving right along.
yat  
MadPlaid : 4/2/2015 2:36 pm : link
I wish I didn't have to. It is always much better when the owner makes the selection themself. uconngiant hasn't been on BBI since March 20, so I don't know what his deal is. Or, why he agreed to come back this year if he doesn't have the time to checkin. Especially when he should know this is the day we were getting started. Can you tell I'm annoyed?
You never like to see auto picks especially this early  
NoGainDayne : 4/2/2015 3:18 pm : link
but in that case Peat is a great value there.

While not a huge position of need for the Browns  
Lionhart28 : 4/2/2015 3:42 pm : link
They can't pass on the best RB (in their eyes) to enter the league since Adrian Peterson. They already have 2 good young backs in Crowell and West but Coach Pettine is going to want to run the hell out of the football and can't pass on this type of talent. He's rated as a top 3 overall player on our board and we are ecstatic to get him with our second round pick.

CIP is up...
5 of first 18 picks on O-Line  
Rick in Dallas : 4/2/2015 3:45 pm : link
Is this a deep class of red chip OL. Humphries and Clemmings also possible first round picks.
RE: While not a huge position of need for the Browns  
Mike in NY : 4/2/2015 3:48 pm : link
In comment 12215020 Lionhart28 said:
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They can't pass on the best RB (in their eyes) to enter the league since Adrian Peterson. They already have 2 good young backs in Crowell and West but Coach Pettine is going to want to run the hell out of the football and can't pass on this type of talent. He's rated as a top 3 overall player on our board and we are ecstatic to get him with our second round pick.

CIP is up...


Nice pick. Going into the draft he was one of my top 2 for the Ravens at 26 based on who realistically could be there. Also, with 2 1st Round selections the Browns can gamble on Gurley's health
Thanks Mike  
Lionhart28 : 4/2/2015 3:53 pm : link
The Browns also have 2 good young runners already, so they don't have to rush him on the field... Plus, they aren't winning anything until they get a quarterback so they might as well stock talent elsewhere so they are ready to win when they do get one. Possibly drafting Derek Carr, Allen Robinson and Jeremy Hill last year like I did for them would have helped, but I digress...
Also, if you are looking to be based around a power run game...  
Lionhart28 : 4/2/2015 3:56 pm : link
This is awesome: "In 2014, churned out an amazing 61.9 percent of his rushing yardage after contact."
Eagles select Landon Collins...  
Chris in Philly : 4/2/2015 4:09 pm : link
Not quite the freak that you would expect Kelly to take, but there are two major weaknesses on this team - defensive backfield and wide receiver. Collins is a guy who can be a monster on some of the best special teams in the league and work his way into the starting back 7 very quickly. They need a lot of talent in both areas, and after blowing a first rounder last year, he's a safe pick. Still plenty of time to pick up some WR's later.
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