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What do you HATE the most about The NFL Network???

CBSGameFace : 4/6/2015 10:55 pm
A) The obvious anti-NY bias?

B) The lame ass contrarian debates about blah, blah, blah?

C) The incessant Cowboy lovefest?

D) Jordan Babineaux's butchering of the English language?

E) Lavar Arrington's wardrobe?

F) The 'Who is the greatest of all time' debates?

G) Anything that Solomon Wilcots says?

H) Jamie 'Daisy' Dukes?


Please. Have at it. Feel free to add anything I might have missed.
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Most of their programming is about "lists"  
David B. : 4/7/2015 8:11 am : link
Top ten this or that. Call yourself the NFL LIST Network.

They do a good job with the Combine, and since Mayock became a fixture, they're better ESPN on the draft.

They have SOME decent programming -- A Football Life is a good series, and anything created by the Sabols is top-notch. The series on the Giants Scouts was good.

Look, EVERY "24/7 news network" has TOO MUCH time to fill and is gonna have a lot of repetition, crappy filler shows, and other shit. ESPN covers more sports, and they are even worse.
I don't know that I hate them, but I haven't watched in a while.  
Shepherdsam : 4/7/2015 8:21 am : link
It seems that it's more important that someone be loud and annoying than intelligent. At least if you want to work for NFL Network, ESPN, CBS, places like that.
This thread about it...  
Chris in Philly : 4/7/2015 8:24 am : link
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They became ESPN II  
Big Blue '56 : 4/7/2015 8:30 am : link
After showing so much promise initially
RE: I don't know that I hate them, but I haven't watched in a while.  
CBSGameFace : 4/7/2015 8:39 am : link
In comment 12220900 Shepherdsam said:
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It seems that it's more important that someone be loud and annoying than intelligent. At least if you want to work for NFL Network, ESPN, CBS, places like that.


I see what you did there. Nicely done.

Beer, here!
RE: This thread about it...  
CBSGameFace : 4/7/2015 8:39 am : link
In comment 12220908 Chris in Philly said:
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Touché.....
When I moved to my new house in 2013  
Scyber : 4/7/2015 8:42 am : link
I had the choice of keeping my current lineup (+ 1 or two more channels) for an extra $10/month or losing around 15 channels and paying $10 less a month. NFL Network was the only one on that list I even watched. So it really wasn't a hard decision.

I haven't watched it much in the last two years, and I really do not miss it at all. There was literally nothing on that channel that interested me then, and nothing now (as far as I can tell) that interests me. I get all my news online and can watch video segments online if I want also.
I agree....  
Doomster : 4/7/2015 8:44 am : link
Analysts? Listening to these guys, they are a joke....

And as stated, with the video library they have on hand, it is totally wasted.....

I understand, they have to "create" news or controversy, between the SB and the Draft, to try and attract viewers....unfortunately, that same process has now run over into the regular season, making you wonder if these guys watch any of the games...
They need to simalcast some NFl talk show  
Joey from GlenCove : 4/7/2015 8:49 am : link
and not make it like MIKE AND MIKE
I think that this would make a great segment.....  
CBSGameFace : 4/7/2015 8:49 am : link
......get some real former coaches in there, give them a down/distance/time of game scenario and have them break down the play and what THEY would do in a given situation, i.e. Seattle's last Super Bowl play, and let them talk about gap disciplines and use the telestrator to make their points. I'm dying for this type of knowledge and I truly feel that REAL NFL fans would eat this shit up.

But what do I know, I'm only Puerto Rican.......and I work for CBS Sports.

A double handicap....
RE: I agree....  
CBSGameFace : 4/7/2015 8:51 am : link
In comment 12220946 Doomster said:
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Analysts? Listening to these guys, they are a joke....

And as stated, with the video library they have on hand, it is totally wasted.....

I understand, they have to "create" news or controversy, between the SB and the Draft, to try and attract viewers....unfortunately, that same process has now run over into the regular season, making you wonder if these guys watch any of the games...


Totally agree. They have the GREATEST content on the planet and it is totally ignored. Not even misused. Sheesh!
Should have asked what anyone likes about it.  
jjgmrg901 : 4/7/2015 8:54 am : link
I can't stand the need to laugh so much about inside-type discussions.
Hey LeVar you know how hard so and so hits but hey you gave your fair share. Then all nods and pointing.
Shit the need to call everyone by intials? when the f did that start. ED hey TD hey JB hey JD?? their poor mothers gave them first names for a reason. Why not use them.

What exactly does Molly Quirrem or Erin Coscarelli bring to any show? (other than the obvious short, tight skirts and tops?)

Actually miss Alex Flanagan, she seemed to know her stuff and has some reasonble questions.

I only like Mayock and I will record Path to the draft and flash through it checking out anything Giant or any players I am interested in.
Luckily, he's now gone! That Strahan-hater,Sapp!  
TheMick7 : 4/7/2015 9:02 am : link
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RE: I think that this would make a great segment.....  
truebluelarry : 4/7/2015 9:09 am : link
In comment 12220956 CBSGameFace said:
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......get some real former coaches in there, give them a down/distance/time of game scenario and have them break down the play and what THEY would do in a given situation, i.e. Seattle's last Super Bowl play, and let them talk about gap disciplines and use the telestrator to make their points. I'm dying for this type of knowledge and I truly feel that REAL NFL fans would eat this shit up.


I'm with you 1,000%.

The problem is the NFL Network clearly does not care about the REAL fan or broadcasting intelligent programming. Too bad for us I guess.
If  
Old Dirty Beckham : 4/7/2015 9:42 am : link
you hate the NFL network you have unrealistic expectations for the channel and take it to seriously.
Did anyone see  
BIG FRED 1973 : 4/7/2015 9:44 am : link
Brain baldinger say that the giants are in trouble because we let go of kuiwnuka and did not resign Rolle .Guess he didn’t watch them play last year
Do they ever program the NFL from the early days  
chops : 4/7/2015 9:45 am : link
in the 1920's through the decades of the 30's,40's and 50.s?

It seems to be focused on the last 45 years.
A,C  
old man : 4/7/2015 10:02 am : link
and what Tom in NY said.
Stupid ESPNFL Network!
the only positive thing about NFL network  
B in ALB : 4/7/2015 10:05 am : link
Is RedZone during the season.
BRYAN EVANS  
Glover : 4/7/2015 10:08 am : link
Hands down, I cant stand that guy. He is ridiculously skeptical about everything or everyone who is not pro bowl proven for like 10 years. Just a douche in general.
aka. Heath Evans  
Glover : 4/7/2015 10:09 am : link
Bryan Heath Evans.
I'd like to see a 1 hour show  
mrvax : 4/7/2015 10:22 am : link
where they select one offensive and 1 defensive position and analyze them.

What is a 1-gap, 3-gap, etc. Show it drawn up on a board and pepper it with video clips.

Have a retired player from that position along with a retired coordinator host that show.
RE: Did anyone see  
CBSGameFace : 4/7/2015 10:23 am : link
In comment 12221057 BIG FRED 1973 said:
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Brain baldinger say that the giants are in trouble because we let go of kuiwnuka and did not resign Rolle .Guess he didn’t watch them play last year


I nearly shit myself when he said the' staples' were Kiwanuka and Rolle. I swear he's geebed up sometimes as he is always touching his nose. Watch it. No kidding.

And I KNOW I've seen Billick fucked up on quite a few occasions. I don't know if it's bing or alcohol, but the dudes mouth was sooooo dry and he kept slurring his words. Lindsay whatshername also looked high as kite on one show.

My perception only.. Don't want to get sued and all.....
RE: Did anyone see  
Klaatu : 4/7/2015 10:26 am : link
In comment 12221057 BIG FRED 1973 said:
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Brain baldinger say that the giants are in trouble because we let go of kuiwnuka and did not resign Rolle .Guess he didn’t watch them play last year


Things like this always make me wonder...if they're that clueless about the Giants, are they that clueless about every other team?
RE: If  
CBSGameFace : 4/7/2015 10:26 am : link
In comment 12221048 Old Dirty Beckham said:
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you hate the NFL network you have unrealistic expectations for the channel and take it to seriously.


I'm sorry, but I do. It is called the NFL Network. Why does it have to be that bad? Some one is asleep at the wheel over at the NFL front office.
RE: I'd like to see a 1 hour show  
CBSGameFace : 4/7/2015 10:29 am : link
In comment 12221146 mrvax said:
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where they select one offensive and 1 defensive position and analyze them.

What is a 1-gap, 3-gap, etc. Show it drawn up on a board and pepper it with video clips.

Have a retired player from that position along with a retired coordinator host that show.


I'm sure they could some cool motion graphic overlay to it and then pull away to show it on a chalkboard and then back to the field via a 3d swing angle. The possibilities for excellence there are endless.
Why no Top Ten Giants?  
Klaatu : 4/7/2015 10:30 am : link
They've done Top Tens on everything else. WTF?
RE: Do they ever program the NFL from the early days  
truebluelarry : 4/7/2015 10:56 am : link
In comment 12221058 chops said:
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in the 1920's through the decades of the 30's,40's and 50.s?

It seems to be focused on the last 45 years.


Very few complete game films exist, and those are from teams filming their own games. Most of what's available come from newsreel highlights.

About 15 years ago ESPN2 or ESPN Classic dedicated a week to showing complete game films (in color!) of a bunch of the NFL Championship Games from the 1950's and early 1960's. I watched two the of Cleveland-Detroit games, the Giants-Bears from 1956 and the Eagles-Packers from 1960. Those were fantastic, I only wish I'd had the foresight to record them. I'd foolishly assumed they'd be re-aired.
RE: Do they ever program the NFL from the early days  
truebluelarry : 4/7/2015 10:57 am : link
In comment 12221058 chops said:
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in the 1920's through the decades of the 30's,40's and 50.s?

It seems to be focused on the last 45 years.


Very few complete game films exist, and those are from teams filming their own games. Most of what's available come from newsreel highlights.

About 15 years ago ESPN2 or ESPN Classic dedicated a week to showing complete game films (in color!) of a bunch of the NFL Championship Games from the 1950's and early 1960's. I watched two the of Cleveland-Detroit games, the Giants-Bears from 1956 and the Eagles-Packers from 1960. Those were fantastic, I only wish I'd had the foresight to record them. I'd foolishly assumed they'd be re-aired.
Sorry for the repost  
truebluelarry : 4/7/2015 10:58 am : link
not sure what happened.
RE: RE: Do they ever program the NFL from the early days  
Big Blue '56 : 4/7/2015 11:26 am : link
In comment 12221221 truebluelarry said:
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In comment 12221058 chops said:


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in the 1920's through the decades of the 30's,40's and 50.s?

It seems to be focused on the last 45 years.



Very few complete game films exist, and those are from teams filming their own games. Most of what's available come from newsreel highlights.

About 15 years ago ESPN2 or ESPN Classic dedicated a week to showing complete game films (in color!) of a bunch of the NFL Championship Games from the 1950's and early 1960's. I watched two the of Cleveland-Detroit games, the Giants-Bears from 1956 and the Eagles-Packers from 1960. Those were fantastic, I only wish I'd had the foresight to record them. I'd foolishly assumed they'd be re-aired.


Larry, there's a guy on eBay who sells classic games for $29.95 per..He's been selling them for over a decade iirc..I don't recall if I ever bought one, but would have no reservations in doing so..I think he has the oldest FULL GAME dvd ever recorded, a 1960 game..Take a look and judge for yourself..
The fact that hey are on 27/7 - 365.  
short lease : 4/7/2015 1:24 pm : link
is that really necessary?
I stopped  
NYG4246 : 4/7/2015 1:39 pm : link
watching about a year ago. theres nothing good about the NFL network. idk how you fuck up a station purely about football but they did.
My beef is that they fell off of a cliff in programming altogether  
David in LA : 4/7/2015 1:41 pm : link
and has been ESPN-ified. That's not by coincidence, NFL Network brought over a lot of former ESPN guys to 'revamp' their programming.
RE: The fact that hey are on 27/7 - 365.  
RC02XX : 4/7/2015 3:03 pm : link
In comment 12221555 short lease said:
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is that really necessary?


I'm sure those extra three hours a day was definitely necessary for their lineup.
I like Charles Davis and agree with many of his evaluations  
Torrag : 4/7/2015 3:34 pm : link
also like that cute-hot chick Lindsay Rhodes...she puts the stem on my apple. The rest of them suck balls.
outside of  
Bleedin Blue : 4/7/2015 3:49 pm : link
Mayock and Davis, their so-called "Experts" are nothing more than shit throwers hoping something sticks, when it comes to draft analysis and who they believe a team will or should pick. I truly believe we get more in depth breakdown of players entering the draft here.

Love Mayock that's a given that I should have stated...  
Torrag : 4/7/2015 3:51 pm : link
...for the sake of clarity...
Michael Irvin  
chopperhatch : 4/7/2015 3:53 pm : link
I truly have grown to hate him as a person and a reporter
I hate the NFL Network's ESPN vibe.  
TheBigBlueOne : 4/7/2015 8:05 pm : link
They are filled with ex-jocks who don't know a thing about talking to the viewers.

They deliver news in little bitty soundbites.

Their programing is pathetic. Top 10 List is not programming, it is mindless pablum that reduces the sport to America's Funniest Videos level of entertainment. Top 10 Lists are a step down in programming from the programming that NFL Films made. NFL Films turned football into an action-packed drama with tension and music. Each football game was turned into an epic.

I hate how the pencil pushers that the NFL hired to run their fledgling network gutted NFL Films. The people who elevated football above the other sports could only watch as these new geek producers slashed budgets, laid-off workers, and lied to Steve Sabol about their intentions with NFL Films.

The hate that I learned the geek pencil-pusher executives that the NFL hired to run its programming, where the ones who made ESPN what it became.

I hate how some marketing "guru" came up with a bold, edgy, new strategy for NFLN's draft day coverage and decided to give football fans less Mike Mayock, and more everyone else for the casual viewer. Their 2013 coverage was pathetic the way they strutted out an 8-man panel to discuss each draft pick in only 10 minutes, half of which is dedicated to commercials. I wish some of you could have seen when it was just Mayock and Rich Eisen, meaning Mayock did all the talking about the player's prospects. That guy was informed on the players and he told us what we wanted to know. Some genius decided less information and more personality was the way to go.

I hate that I wanted NFL Network once.
The hired (experts)  
chillinman1183 : 4/7/2015 10:56 pm : link
are absolutely clueless about all 32 teams. The analysts are even worse. They just spew the same shit that they hear from other reporters,and act like they actually know what they're talking about. I would say that the(average) fan knows more about football then any of those douchebags.
I vote for the Cowboy bias  
PatersonPlank : 4/8/2015 2:59 am : link
Its so sickening listening to Irvin gush.
Lack of serious football talk.  
SanFranNowNCGiantsFan : 4/8/2015 6:21 am : link
I'm not a MLB guy by any stretch of the imagination, but their content is filled with much more depth & discussion on the game & strategy behind it.
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Route 9 in LEH : 4/8/2015 6:30 pm : link
What BigBlueOne said. Spot on. NFL Network is nothing but a dumpster fire. I can't believe that I wanted a Network devoted to the NFL and they came up with this. The lack of analytics on the programs are definitely the most obscene viewing material out of the sport networks. NHL and MLB are so in depth and they provide quality, at least more than the NFL Network does. Look at the Super Bowl, they had Warren Sapp bobbing for apples. Who the hell wants to see that? The worst, worst, WORST product to come from the NFL Network is DANCING WITH THE STARTERS. Absolutely unnecessary.


Lavar Harrington is garbage but the worst is that Conway guy married to Ali's daughter. Get that fucking clown off TV.
jerry jones heads nfl's nfl network committee  
mretc : 4/9/2015 5:50 am : link
..and steve whatshisface the ceo is an espn alum.

..so are we really shocked that it sucks? Thought it was worth registering just to point that out.

Golly ED the cowboys really look good
I agree, michael irvin.

Blech
RE: jerry jones heads nfl's nfl network committee  
mretc : 4/9/2015 5:53 am : link
In comment 12224292 mretc said:
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..and steve whatshisface the ceo is an espn alum.

..so are we really shocked that it sucks? Thought it was worth registering just to point that out.

Golly ED the cowboys really look good
I agree, michael irvin.

Blech

who owns nfl network -ask.com - ( New Window )
RE: RE: jerry jones heads nfl's nfl network committee  
mretc : 4/9/2015 5:56 am : link
In comment 12224293 mretc said:
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In comment 12224292 mretc said:


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..and steve whatshisface the ceo is an espn alum.

..so are we really shocked that it sucks? Thought it was worth registering just to point that out.

Golly ED the cowboys really look good
I agree, michael irvin.

Blech

who owns nfl network -ask.com - ( New Window )

jerry jones comittee etc - ( New Window )
RE: jerry jones heads nfl's nfl network committee  
mretc : 4/9/2015 5:57 am : link
All that said, molly qerim is totally hot. ;)
Fuck the NFL network  
Giants4246 : 4/9/2015 9:24 am : link
I never watch that shit
RE: RE: The fact that hey are on 27/7 - 365.  
short lease : 4/9/2015 6:18 pm : link
In comment 12221725 RC02XX said:
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In comment 12221555 short lease said:


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is that really necessary?





I'm sure those extra three hours a day was definitely necessary for their lineup.



I Never said I was a math genius or that I can count ... but, let me tell you something (wise-ass) ; ). If you worked for me - you would be paid handsomely.
: )


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