Lance Zierlein & #8207;@LanceZierlein 3s3 seconds ago
After speaking with multiple teams I have no doubt that Ced Ogbuehi's ACL tear will NOT keep him out of the first round. He's going in 1st.
(Damn, was hoping he'd be a high upside 2nd round grab for us).
Lowdown: A third-team All-American as a senior and first-team All-Southeastern Conference selection, Ogbuehi’s draft stock is tough to project because of a torn ACL suffered in the Aggies’ bowl game against West Virginia. That means he didn’t do any on-field drills at the NFL Scouting Combine, and won’t be able to go through workouts for teams. … Was expected to be a top-10 pick entering his senior year, but gave up seven sacks – one of the highest totals in the SEC. … Has the long arms (35≥ inches) teams look for, but his functional strength will have to improve. … Played right guard, right tackle and left tackle in college, giving him positional flexibility. … Expects to be ready for training camp, but might fit best on a team that can afford to let him sit early in his rookie season.
There are things that a loaded team can afford to do, like wait for a talented player to develop or rehab. The Giants are not that team. We need players who can hit the ground running.
There are not many guys who have the capability of playing every position on the offensive line, but that is the type of versatility Erving brings to the table. With experience at both LT and C in college, the former Seminole proved he can protect a quarterback’s blind-side or be the leader of the entire offensive line. If he was able to transition to these two spots so effortlessly, playing guard in a pinch would be no issue in the big leagues.
As a pass blocker, this is a prospect who is ahead of the game. This 6’5″, 313 lb. monster is a true technician who knows how to utilize his powerful strength in his favor. He does a great job of keeping his hands on the inside of pass rushers in order to control and steer them accordingly. Once he locks in on a defender’s core, it is game over. Erving also does a tremendous job of anchoring (see #75 below), meaning that when he is tested with a bull rush/power move, he can hold his ground while planted and use his length and power. In the run department, the big guy takes care of his assignments and gets the job done. He has the athleticism to reach the second level and get his head out in front down the line in a zone-blocking scheme. Overall, you know what you are getting with Erving, he is very consistent. His skill set projects him best as a center, but if you needed anymore convincing, watch what Erving at left tackle against a top pass rusher in this year’s draft, Virginia’s Eli Harold.
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Now, to your point about drafting someone. Where I think you fall short is that you are totally overlooking the injury aspect. I think it is two years in a row that we have led the league in injuries. To me, that holds way more weight than saying people want young guys to start. More importantly, most fans and even our coaching staff along with management is sick of it. It was enough to make John Mara address it.
I'm not advocating one way or another for this player. I'm just pointing out that any serious injury is gonna have Giants fans weary of drafting a player like that. Now, you bring up a good point that most are not an issue and that is true but every case is different. For every Justin Tuck we probably have a Jamaar Taylor. Both sides have a case. I think that is east to understand.
There are not many guys who have the capability of playing every position on the offensive line, but that is the type of versatility Erving brings to the table. With experience at both LT and C in college, the former Seminole proved he can protect a quarterback’s blind-side or be the leader of the entire offensive line. If he was able to transition to these two spots so effortlessly, playing guard in a pinch would be no issue in the big leagues.
As a pass blocker, this is a prospect who is ahead of the game. This 6’5″, 313 lb. monster is a true technician who knows how to utilize his powerful strength in his favor. He does a great job of keeping his hands on the inside of pass rushers in order to control and steer them accordingly. Once he locks in on a defender’s core, it is game over. Erving also does a tremendous job of anchoring (see #75 below), meaning that when he is tested with a bull rush/power move, he can hold his ground while planted and use his length and power. In the run department, the big guy takes care of his assignments and gets the job done. He has the athleticism to reach the second level and get his head out in front down the line in a zone-blocking scheme. Overall, you know what you are getting with Erving, he is very consistent. His skill set projects him best as a center, but if you needed anymore convincing, watch what Erving at left tackle against a top pass rusher in this year’s draft, Virginia’s Eli Harold. Link - ( New Window )
Yezzir!!!! All for it!
Agreed. In that sense, he and Carl Davis seem similar. Davis apparently told teams he wanted to be used a lot less, which understandably put a lot of people off.
His comments, the ACL tear, and the sacks he gave up mean that he is not a first round pick IMO. I wouldn't consider him until the third at the earliest, and would really like to avoid players with significant injuries until day three at the earliest. That is especially true for OL, where we need immediate help.
He could still go in the first, but as someone said, this is the the time of year when at least 40 - 45 guys are "locks" to be first round picks. The good news for us is that talk like this increases the likelihood that someone who should go in the first might be pushed down to our pick at #40.
And I'd be very hesitant to take him from the Giants persepective in Round 2.
Agreed. As opposed to Peat who is extremely sharp and seems to work much harder in the film room.
I could see New England selecting him. Would love to add him but don't think he'll be there.
I think Erving is a very "Giant-like" pick. I could see it if we go DE or WR at #9.
I think he'd be a decent pick. I didn't like his play at LT, but he did a much better job at C. Likely could play LG for us.