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Analysis of Giant's Draft from 1979 - 2014

T in NJ : 4/8/2015 11:35 am
I decided to take a look of the Giant's Draft Picks since George Young was GM to get an historical perspective of the where the front office like to take what positions. I went back to George Young since the philosophy of the draft was formulated by him and passed down Ernie Accorsi and then Jerry Reese.

The overall count of draft picks by round looks like this:



The Giants have loved to draft DBs (62 total) and LBs (45 total), but in the first round they have preferred to take DBs, RBs, and WRs in that order.

The breakdown of positions drafted by the GM looks like this:



Expanded by round, the GM drafts vs position looks like this:



I find it interesting that Reese and Accorsi have mirrored each other in the positions and their numbers that have been drafted.
Of course  
Big Blue '56 : 4/8/2015 11:40 am : link
GY had many more rounds from which to choose..

Thanks for the breakdown
You're welcome '56  
T in NJ : 4/8/2015 11:56 am : link
I started this little project around the draft last year after seeing people posting how the Giants don't draft LBs in the first round anymore. Well, the numbers show that they didn't target LB in the first round all that often.
Thanks. It's nice to see facts rather than  
CT Charlie : 4/8/2015 11:58 am : link
opinions. I'll point out that "DB" includes 4 players on the field, while "LB" and "WR" involve 3, which may account for the overall proportions.
CT  
T in NJ : 4/8/2015 12:06 pm : link
That was a problem with the source data, sometimes the pick was identified as safety or corner, the other times it was just identified as DB. I ended up consolidating the position as DB.
I'd fairly count three 1st round QBs  
Deej : 4/8/2015 12:14 pm : link
Simms, Dave Brown (supp #1), and Rivers/Manning
When GY was drafting, the Giants were usually the leader  
carpoon : 4/8/2015 12:15 pm : link
or among the leaders for having the most draft picks that were still in the NFL.
The supplemental draft  
T in NJ : 4/8/2015 12:37 pm : link
Wasn't included in this data
A side anecdote..  
Big Blue '56 : 4/8/2015 12:42 pm : link
Parcells, always the thinker, preferred if possible to draft Big Ten OL, because he needed them to be adept at playing in cold weather come November/December at the Meadowlands
I have also a breakdown of draft picks by college  
T in NJ : 4/8/2015 1:00 pm : link
And GY sure loved his Michigan guys.
Lots of RBs, considering how devalued they are now  
Ivan15 : 4/8/2015 1:02 pm : link
Only 1 RB plays at a time. 4 DBs play together.

Heavy weighting on RBs.

Also, Parcells may have preferred O-linemen from the Big Ten but George Young was doing the picking.
RE: Lots of RBs, considering how devalued they are now  
Big Blue '56 : 4/8/2015 1:06 pm : link
In comment 12223292 Ivan15 said:
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Only 1 RB plays at a time. 4 DBs play together.

Heavy weighting on RBs.

Also, Parcells may have preferred O-linemen from the Big Ten but George Young was doing the picking.


Contrary to what has been said, GY and BP consulted on everything, including the draft, albeit GY obviously made the final decision..
RE: The supplemental draft  
Deej : 4/8/2015 1:46 pm : link
In comment 12223224 T in NJ said:
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Wasn't included in this data


Understood. I think it is relevant though. Two datapoints tell you that GY fills his hole at QB with #1 picks.
RE: RE: The supplemental draft  
T in NJ : 4/8/2015 2:48 pm : link
In comment 12223378 Deej said:
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In comment 12223224 T in NJ said:


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Wasn't included in this data



Understood. I think it is relevant though. Two datapoints tell you that GY fills his hole at QB with #1 picks.


I remember when Craig Kupp was the future at QB.
Craig Kupp and Mike Cherry  
jvm52106 : 4/8/2015 3:34 pm : link
are names I remember well.
RE: Craig Kupp and Mike Cherry  
T in NJ : 4/8/2015 3:49 pm : link
In comment 12223569 jvm52106 said:
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are names I remember well.


Mike Cherry to (almost) Brian Alford.

This is why we need to appreciate what we have, there have been some long dark periods with this franchise.
RE: Of course  
BMac : 4/8/2015 4:04 pm : link
In comment 12223078 Big Blue '56 said:
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GY had many more rounds from which to choose..

Thanks for the breakdown


He was also drafting for a 3-4, and that makes for a big difference in priorities/value assessments.
RE: RE: Of course  
Big Blue '56 : 4/8/2015 4:05 pm : link
In comment 12223617 BMac said:
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In comment 12223078 Big Blue '56 said:


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GY had many more rounds from which to choose..

Thanks for the breakdown



He was also drafting for a 3-4, and that makes for a big difference in priorities/value assessments.


True dat
Great work, and very interesting  
sb from NYT Forum : 4/8/2015 5:09 pm : link
Basically confirms that Reese drafts very similarly to Ernie, at least as far as positions and rounds.

Also, interesting that Ernie drafted only 3 OGs in his 7 years, and Reese only 2 OGs in 7 years. Which shows you how much they value the position.
Anything before Ernie is irrelevant to today imo  
raever : 4/8/2015 5:12 pm : link
...
Past performance  
PEEJ : 4/8/2015 5:28 pm : link
is no guarantee of future returns
I Don't Think It Means Much.  
Spider 67 : 4/8/2015 8:20 pm : link
I think Ernie Accorsi made big deals(Manning and I believe Shockey)on draft day which makes him much different than Young and Reese. The charts don't differentiate when they drafted for need or best player available.
When Young drafted Hostetler on the 3rd round in 1984,  
GeofromNJ : 4/8/2015 9:23 pm : link
he said after the draft that Hoss was the highest rated quarterback on the Giants board (even ahead of Esaison) and they took him because he was still available, not because they desperately needed a quarterback, evidenced by the fact that Hoss sat behind Simms for five years. So, in a sense, Young drafted three quarterbacks in the 1st round: Simms, a great choice, Hoss, a great choice, and Brown, not a great choice because he lacked a quick release and was essentially stationary.

One additional point about Young. He and Ray Perkins differed on drafting offensive linemen. Perkins said on several occasions that offensive linemen were available in the later rounds. Young was convinced that they had to be taken early, and he took a ton on the 1st and 2nd rounds. I think history demonstrates that on this point, Young was right.
RE: When Young drafted Hostetler on the 3rd round in 1984,  
T in NJ : 4/9/2015 3:19 pm : link
In comment 12224066 GeofromNJ said:
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he said after the draft that Hoss was the highest rated quarterback on the Giants board (even ahead of Esaison) and they took him because he was still available, not because they desperately needed a quarterback, evidenced by the fact that Hoss sat behind Simms for five years. So, in a sense, Young drafted three quarterbacks in the 1st round: Simms, a great choice, Hoss, a great choice, and Brown, not a great choice because he lacked a quick release and was essentially stationary.

One additional point about Young. He and Ray Perkins differed on drafting offensive linemen. Perkins said on several occasions that offensive linemen were available in the later rounds. Young was convinced that they had to be taken early, and he took a ton on the 1st and 2nd rounds. I think history demonstrates that on this point, Young was right.


Kind of sounds like the reasoning given for drafting Nassib.
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