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Who is the most underrated Giant to you ?

SoZKillA : 4/9/2015 10:56 am
I say Jessie Armstead or Rich Seubert
George Martin.  
No Where Man : 4/9/2015 10:58 am : link
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Joe Morrison  
Big Blue '56 : 4/9/2015 10:59 am : link
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Keith Hamilton  
Andy in Boston : 4/9/2015 11:03 am : link
its a crime that he never made a pro bowl.
Same with Amani Toomer. Toomer should have made 2 pro bowls.
Gary Reasons  
Giants2012 : 4/9/2015 11:03 am : link
maybe
Eli  
rdt288 : 4/9/2015 11:03 am : link
-true story
Current team  
pjcas18 : 4/9/2015 11:07 am : link
it's Prince Amukamara and historically it might be Mark Collins or Kareem McKenzie.
pepper johnson  
viggie : 4/9/2015 11:08 am : link
played with MONSTER LBs and was in the backround but hit like a truck
George Martin  
blapre74 : 4/9/2015 11:10 am : link
he made a great interception of Elway in SB, and his line play allowed the lbs to freelance.
JA made multiple Pro Bowls  
Greg from LI : 4/9/2015 11:11 am : link
Hard to say he was underrated. Hammer is a good choice. I'd say Banks, though. Giants fans don't underrate him, but I don't think he ever got his due on a league-wide basis when he played.
Eli Manning  
Chris684 : 4/9/2015 11:13 am : link
There are ALOT of Giants fans who have mostly negative things to say about a time SB MVP.
Hankins  
spike : 4/9/2015 11:13 am : link
currently.
Osi  
Old Dirty Beckham : 4/9/2015 11:14 am : link
by a long shot.
2 time*  
Chris684 : 4/9/2015 11:14 am : link
...
Mark Haynes...  
BCD : 4/9/2015 11:20 am : link
Ron Johnson, Jim Burt and Toast Patterson
Maurice Carthon?  
yatqb : 4/9/2015 11:20 am : link
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Jamal Duff!  
Curtis in VA : 4/9/2015 11:20 am : link
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RE: Eli Manning  
Giants4246 : 4/9/2015 11:21 am : link
In comment 12224791 Chris684 said:
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There are ALOT of Giants fans who have mostly negative things to say about a time SB MVP.


Yep, and finding a non-giant fan who has anything positive to say about our 2x SB MVP is about as rare as a unicorn.
Kareem McKenzie  
TampaGiant : 4/9/2015 11:21 am : link
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Eli Manning  
JohnB : 4/9/2015 11:28 am : link
When he is gone, you'll understand.
Carl Banks  
joeinpa : 4/9/2015 12:07 pm : link
Played 3rd and 2cnd fiddle on those Giants teams. Pretty amazing for a guy that I believe should be considered for the Hall of Fame.

Great player
Carl Banks - for many reasons already stated  
Sec 103 : 4/9/2015 12:11 pm : link
Zeke Mowatt - A monster tight end whose career fell short and in came Bavaro
RE: pepper johnson  
Moondawg : 4/9/2015 12:13 pm : link
In comment 12224770 viggie said:
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played with MONSTER LBs and was in the backround but hit like a truck


Yeah, Pepper and Reasons understandably got overlooked.
Future Hall of Famer Eli Manning  
geelabee : 4/9/2015 12:16 pm : link
A model of consistency....How consistent has Eli been so far?

Eli's number #1 most important attribute he is consistent...making 167 consecutive starts...that's 11 years without missing a start...3rd most in NFL history behind:

1) Brett Favre (297)

2) Payton. (208)

That number alone almost gives the man hall of fame credentials....but consider his stats so far:

39,755 passing yards (15)
297 TD passes. (13)

Eli needs 17 more TD passes and to throw for 4,856 yards to move into 10th place all time in both categories!!

The man has had a tremendous career and been an iron man rock...how likely will the Giants ever have another QB this consistent and this good ever again??
...  
Chuck Q : 4/9/2015 12:19 pm : link
John Mendenhall - a bright light from the dark 70's.
Watch the 86 playoff games  
Ron Johnson : 4/9/2015 12:20 pm : link
and Superbowl. Banks was the best player on the field ..... and that is saying something.
I'm a huge Eli fan  
pjcas18 : 4/9/2015 12:23 pm : link
but I believe he's rated appropriately by most fans. anytime under or over rated are discussed it's hard because none of us truly know how a player is rated or viewed.

Eli is polarizing (because he is NOT consistent - at least statistically), but he's a multiple time pro-bowler (3) and two time SB MVP. He'll probably be elected to the HOF. How is that underrated?

And why does everyone assume Eli will be replaced by a bowl of jello? Why won't he be replaced by the next Aaron Rodgers instead of the next Danny Kanell?

Martin made an interception  
Doomster : 4/9/2015 12:26 pm : link
of Elway in the SB?

Did I miss that one?
Yep, Banks was their best defender throughout the '86 postseason  
Greg from LI : 4/9/2015 12:28 pm : link
He played a position short on glamor in that defense, and did a lot of dirty work that didn't pile up flashy stats, but he was the best around at what he did. He shed TEs like a dog sheds fur.
the interception of Elway was in the regular season  
Greg from LI : 4/9/2015 12:29 pm : link
78 yard return for a TD. He got the safety in the Super Bowl.
Banks  
pjcas18 : 4/9/2015 12:30 pm : link
is another guy I find hard to view as underrated I'm glad so many people named him, my perspective of probably off.

I thought everyone knows how awesome Banks was.

I guess people probably feel like he benefited from LT, and I'd guess a lot of that defense did, but Banks was a great player for a lot of years.
Banks made the 80s All Decade Team  
RetroJint : 4/9/2015 12:37 pm : link
which was also the era of the linebacker. It's hard to consider him underrated. For me it's easy: Mark Collins. I never forgave GY for permitting Mark to have any entire second career as a safety with KC & Seattle.
Eli  
Joey from GlenCove : 4/9/2015 12:39 pm : link
and honestly its not close
He only made the Pro Bowl or All-Pro in one season, though (1987)  
Greg from LI : 4/9/2015 12:41 pm : link
That's why I considered him underrated.

Another guy I'd suggest - Erik Howard. He struggled with injuries for much of his career, but when he was healthy he was an absolute moose in the middle of the line.
Will Beatty  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/9/2015 12:42 pm : link
(Ducks)
By the league or by Giants fans?  
RC02XX : 4/9/2015 12:43 pm : link
If by the league, then it would most definitely have to be Eli Manning. Never saw a two time Super Bowl MVP and multiple Pro Bowl attendee with 30+ TDs and 4000+ yards per season QB get so little respect.

Everyone points to his interceptions, but while he has had multiple 20+ interception seasons, many of those were due to the system and the associated miscommunication on the part of the WRs.

By Giants fans? I would say in modern time, it's definitely Prince.
Eli  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 4/9/2015 12:47 pm : link
might be one of the most undervalued player in the entire league.

Even among Giants fans he is under appreciated. It is the most bizarre thing I have ever seen. I know Giants "fans" that told me during this past season that Eli was "washed up" and needed to retire and blamed the bad season on him. Meanwhile he was having a great season. Crazy.
Rodney Hampton is someone I consider underrated  
Torrag : 4/9/2015 1:13 pm : link
5 straight 1000+ yard seasons. He ran tough, had some burst and punished the opponent.
A bunch  
George : 4/9/2015 1:21 pm : link
Bob Tucker
John Mendenhall
Bobby Johnson
Sean Landetta
Charles Way
Michael Barrow
Sam Garnes
Dave Diehl

I also will also second that vote for  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 4/9/2015 1:28 pm : link
Rodney Hampton
Ron Earhardt (sic).  
Klaatu : 4/9/2015 1:34 pm : link
Little Bill's Super Bowl XXV defensive scheme might be in the Hall of Fame, but it was Earhardt's boys who ate up 40 minutes of clock, and "shortened the game" for Big Bill.
Eli Manning  
ANGPASS : 4/9/2015 1:37 pm : link
1) everyone gives his wrs credit over him. All of their best seasons came with eli manning. What has boss, ballard, nicks, smith, manningham, plax done since eli. toomer couldn't even make the chiefs in 2009 and was a starter on the giants the year before. Cruz went undrafted. Plaxs best years were with a young eli.
First, everyone said eli just throws it up to plax.
Then because nicks is a first round pick
then cruz did everything. Now beckham is amazing. Dont get me wrong, all play/played great. but watch payton, rogers, brady highlights. they make good throws but they also have wrs making circus catches too. but the qb get all the credit.

2)top 15 all time in every qb category and has a good chance to be top 10 by the end of next year.

When eli retires, all his haters will come to realize how good he really is. those giants fans who don't like him, will be thankful for youtube so they can watch eli highlights remembering what it was like having a qb.
RE: Eli Manning  
pjcas18 : 4/9/2015 1:40 pm : link
In comment 12225206 ANGPASS said:
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1) everyone gives his wrs credit over him. All of their best seasons came with eli manning. What has boss, ballard, nicks, smith, manningham, plax done since eli. toomer couldn't even make the chiefs in 2009 and was a starter on the giants the year before. Cruz went undrafted. Plaxs best years were with a young eli.
First, everyone said eli just throws it up to plax.
Then because nicks is a first round pick
then cruz did everything. Now beckham is amazing. Dont get me wrong, all play/played great. but watch payton, rogers, brady highlights. they make good throws but they also have wrs making circus catches too. but the qb get all the credit.

2)top 15 all time in every qb category and has a good chance to be top 10 by the end of next year.

When eli retires, all his haters will come to realize how good he really is. those giants fans who don't like him, will be thankful for youtube so they can watch eli highlights remembering what it was like having a qb.


Burress best season came in 2002 with the Steelers

I like Eli as mentioned, I just don't think he's really underrated (by most fans)
RE: ...  
Sec 103 : 4/9/2015 1:44 pm : link
In comment 12224940 Chuck Q said:
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John Mendenhall - a bright light from the dark 70's.

Yeah I though of him, but he wasn't underrated, he was the one of the very few positives in those years of gloom
underrated  
Les in TO : 4/9/2015 1:54 pm : link
hixon and kareem/snee
RE: Rodney Hampton is someone I consider underrated  
T-Bone : 4/9/2015 1:56 pm : link
In comment 12225131 Torrag said:
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5 straight 1000+ yard seasons. He ran tough, had some burst and punished the opponent.


This is who first crossed my mind.
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Danny Kanell : 4/9/2015 2:01 pm : link
Current team: Prince

In my time as a fan: Keith Hamilton
Eli...  
trueblueinpw : 4/9/2015 2:40 pm : link
No doubt about it, among Giants fans and non-Giants fans alike, Eli is the most underrated superstar athlete in any sport that I can remember over 40 years. The guy is a two time Super Bowl MVP and Super Bowl Champion. He plays in the largest media market in the country. He's an iron man. He's a model citizen. He's absolutely every single thing you could ask for in a franchise quarterback. And yet, he's always playing second fiddle to someone.

Close second, I like Rodney Hampton. Great back, great Giant and a champion. I always hear people say they think Tiki was the best Giants back of the past four decades. For my money, I like Hampton. He was a bruiser and speed guy that could carry the load for the entire offense. Good guy too.
^^^^correction...  
trueblueinpw : 4/9/2015 3:02 pm : link
Hampton is *not* a close second to Eli. He's miles apart which is kind of my whole point about Eli being both incredible and incredibly under appreciated.
Bart Oates  
raever : 4/9/2015 3:09 pm : link
Two rings, 125 consecutive games as a Giant and five Pro Bowls. He was damn good as the pivot for that O-Line.
PJ, league wide  
David in LA : 4/9/2015 3:15 pm : link
Eli seems to get very little respect from other fans.
RE: PJ, league wide  
pjcas18 : 4/9/2015 3:19 pm : link
In comment 12225509 David in LA said:
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Eli seems to get very little respect from other fans.


probably true, he's the most common name on here.
Matt Bahr...  
tony stg : 4/9/2015 3:33 pm : link
... there will be no three-peat.

Kareem McKenzie  
moespree : 4/9/2015 3:35 pm : link
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mirwin : 4/9/2015 3:40 pm : link
Will Beatty, Gary Reasons, or Brad Van Pelt
Right now...  
OBJ_AllDay : 4/9/2015 3:52 pm : link
Trumaine mcbride
Rodney Hampton  
Bluenatic : 4/9/2015 4:06 pm : link
There was a 3-4 year stretch there in the 90s where Rodney was the entire offense.
Perry Williams  
Spider 67 : 4/9/2015 5:46 pm : link
His name is never mentioned, now or when he played.
depends  
NYG4246 : 4/11/2015 9:45 am : link
underrated by non Giant fans/ Rest of NFL: ELi Manning, no question

Underrated on the current roster : Trumaine McBride and Robert Ayers

underrated in the recent past: Chase Blackburn, James Butler, Aaron Ross, Derrick Ward, Sam Madison, Michael Mathews, Sam Garnes, Rich Suebert, David Diehl, Madison Hedgecock, Kevin Dockery, Mathias Kiwanuka (full career, dont just focus on 2014)

Fred Robbins  
Ira : 4/11/2015 10:00 am : link
Erich Barnes
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