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One Player you DON'T want the Giants to pick

cosmicj : 4/13/2015 2:11 pm
Name one, just one, and explain why you don't like him, don't just cite a name.
Gregory  
JonC : 4/13/2015 2:12 pm : link
Failed drug tests, poor 4-3 fit, no thanks.
Gregory for the reasons above  
Mike in NY : 4/13/2015 2:15 pm : link
Also Brandon Scherff. I do not think he is an OT in the NFL and I am not sure he is that much better at OG than what we can get on Day 2. Meanwhile we would see a greater dropoff in talent at other positions
Cooper  
Bones : 4/13/2015 2:17 pm : link
I think we could get more for him then any other player, and I want to trade down for additional picks.
Kevin White  
arniefez : 4/13/2015 2:17 pm : link
I would understand Cooper, but not White. I hope the draft OL or DL.
Scherff  
HomerJones45 : 4/13/2015 2:19 pm : link
who has "another Iowa over-hyped stiff" written all over him.
Before  
AcidTest : 4/13/2015 2:21 pm : link
his failed drug tests, I would have said Landon Collins or Arik Armstead, but now it's Gregory.
Landon Collins  
Giants2012 : 4/13/2015 2:21 pm : link
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La'el  
Mr. Nickels : 4/13/2015 2:23 pm : link
Collins would be my most hated pick. He's a guard.
Erich Flowers  
Pep22 : 4/13/2015 2:24 pm : link
Good player but I don't think any RT (only) merits a 9 overall
Landon Collins  
Greg from LI : 4/13/2015 2:26 pm : link
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no Peat baby fat  
blapre74 : 4/13/2015 2:33 pm : link
another stiff tackle from Stanford (Gordon King) I'm convinced they like White/Sherff/Waynes/Shelton
The only guys routinely projected as Top 20 picks...  
Dunedin81 : 4/13/2015 2:33 pm : link
I couldn't sell myself on would be Jameis (not gonna happen), Armstead and Landon Collins (overdraft)
I want neither Collins  
JonC : 4/13/2015 2:38 pm : link
no Armstead. No Shelton either unless they're convinced he'll be very special.

RE: Cooper  
UConn4523 : 4/13/2015 2:39 pm : link
In comment 12231109 Bones said:
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I think we could get more for him then any other player, and I want to trade down for additional picks.


Huh?
Armstead  
RetroJint : 4/13/2015 2:41 pm : link
I think he has a heavy bust profile Let the Philadelphia Ducks take him
RE: Scherff  
OC2.0 : 4/13/2015 2:46 pm : link
In comment 12231115 HomerJones45 said:
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who has "another Iowa over-hyped stiff" written all over him.


Did he get ink done signifying that?
There are so many, but . . . .  
TC : 4/13/2015 2:48 pm : link
OK, any player well into self-destruct, give-a-sh!t mode. Dorial Green-Beckham comes to mind.
Scherff  
stretch234 : 4/13/2015 2:49 pm : link
If the SB winning Patriots, with an immobile QB can start 2 UDFA G and block Seattle, that helps prove you don't need to spend the 9th pick on that player

No as well to Armstead, L. Collins or Dupree
Erick Flowers  
Anakim : 4/13/2015 2:52 pm : link
I don't see why there's hype. I see some potential, but his feet are very heavy.
kentucky's Bud....  
BCD : 4/13/2015 2:52 pm : link
wiser picks will be there to be selected...boy am i a prick
Leonard Williams  
jjgmrg901 : 4/13/2015 2:52 pm : link
I may be in minority on this but a few games that I saw I noticed he would take off plays.
Also another one of the look at me I made a tackle kind of player.
First round only?  
jeff57 : 4/13/2015 2:55 pm : link
Arik Armstead.
Landon Collins  
WeatherMan : 4/13/2015 2:57 pm : link
Overrated, from a program known for churning out busts at his position, and unlikely to be an asset in coverage.
stretch  
blapre74 : 4/13/2015 3:00 pm : link
they cheated :)
Leonard Williams is probably the consensus #1 player in this draft  
JonC : 4/13/2015 3:03 pm : link
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RE: Leonard Williams  
OBJesus : 4/13/2015 3:10 pm : link
In comment 12231170 jjgmrg901 said:
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I may be in minority on this but a few games that I saw I noticed he would take off plays.
Also another one of the look at me I made a tackle kind of player.



Lmao "look at me I made a tackle" idk why I thought that was so funny, but I don't think you'll have to worry about him making it anywhere near our pick
Erik Armstead  
Emil : 4/13/2015 3:13 pm : link
Doesn't seem to be an impact player despite the size and athleticism
Seriously, if LW was available and they picked ANYONE else  
jcn56 : 4/13/2015 3:14 pm : link
I'm shutting off the TV and going outside to clear my head.
Does what program really have  
barens : 4/13/2015 3:14 pm : link
Any affect on the decision to draft a player? Should we not draft any players from Alabama? I'm not saying Landon Collins is worth the 9th pick, but I doubt he will be a bust, and to me, he's worthy of a first round pick.


I remember last year people complaining about OBJ because LSU doesn't regularly churn out wide receivers..
I don't see how you could pass on Leonard Williams. Jeez.  
Victor in CT : 4/13/2015 3:21 pm : link
I would run to the podium if he were somehow there.

Landon Collins and the CB Wayne are 1 and 1A on my "please not him" list
RE: Does what program really have  
OBJesus : 4/13/2015 3:23 pm : link
In comment 12231228 barens said:
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Any affect on the decision to draft a player? Should we not draft any players from Alabama? I'm not saying Landon Collins is worth the 9th pick, but I doubt he will be a bust, and to me, he's worthy of a first round pick.


I remember last year people complaining about OBJ because LSU doesn't regularly churn out wide receivers..


That's pretty silly, what college players come from does matter to some degree but not in that sense, they prob just had a bad taste in their mouths from Ruben Randle
RE: Leonard Williams  
Anakim : 4/13/2015 3:24 pm : link
In comment 12231170 jjgmrg901 said:
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I may be in minority on this but a few games that I saw I noticed he would take off plays.
Also another one of the look at me I made a tackle kind of player.


Looks like you're gonna dodge a bullet....sigh
Peat  
Emlen'sGremlins : 4/13/2015 4:10 pm : link
He has Aaron Gibson (eat himself out of the league) written all over him.
Besides unrealistic options  
Old Dirty Beckham : 4/13/2015 4:38 pm : link
Flowers for me. Seems to be too much work for the 9th pick. Isnt that the opposite of what the Giants have been trying to get?
Kevin White  
SirSirob : 4/13/2015 4:42 pm : link
Cooper is NFL ready, I want him. No White. Draft for need at 9.
Peat  
Ed A. : 4/13/2015 5:00 pm : link
Watched the drills at the combine and I am convinced he will be a major bust.
I have four, in this order ...  
Manny in CA : 4/13/2015 5:44 pm : link
(1) Landon Collins - This guy reminds me of Shawn Williams, big hitter, not big enough to play linebacker and absolutely no cover skills to play pro safety.

(2) Gregory - Keeps failing drug tests (is he addicted to the Chronic ?)

(3) Armstead - He's going to get pushed around, in the pros, no thanks

(4) Peat - Way too high at #9, if we trade down, say to #15, or so, OK.
RE: I have four, in this order ...  
mrvax : 4/13/2015 6:19 pm : link
In comment 12231503 Manny in CA said:
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(1) Landon Collins - This guy reminds me of Shawn Williams, big hitter, not big enough to play linebacker and absolutely no cover skills to play pro safety.

(2) Gregory - Keeps failing drug tests (is he addicted to the Chronic ?)

(3) Armstead - He's going to get pushed around, in the pros, no thanks

(4) Peat - Way too high at #9, if we trade down, say to #15, or so, OK.


I agree with you Manny. I hope they take of the 3 WRs. Best bang for the buck, IMO.
Two  
Bluesbreaker : 4/13/2015 6:43 pm : link
Trae Waynes
Shane Ray
I hope they Extend Prince DRC is still decent
Shane Ray watched one game of his and he got tossed .
Seems like a Punk IMO
winston  
TampaGiant : 4/13/2015 6:46 pm : link
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RE: Two  
OBJesus : 4/13/2015 6:48 pm : link
In comment 12231546 Bluesbreaker said:
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Trae Waynes
Shane Ray
I hope they Extend Prince DRC is still decent
Shane Ray watched one game of his and he got tossed .
Seems like a Punk IMO


Kinda insulting to call Cro "decent" he played like a top 10 corner (borderline top 5) and was fighting off injuries almost all year
Peat  
TD : 4/13/2015 7:37 pm : link
I don't like his body and think he has a very high bust factor
Of those that are in the mix at #9....  
Milton : 4/13/2015 7:49 pm : link
Landon Collins--don't want a safety with the pick.
Davante Parker--don't want a one-half year wonder at WR who doesn't run the whole route tree with the pick (especially when there are excellent receivers to be had on day two and three).
Kevin White--don't want a one year wonder at WR who doesn't get separation with the pick (especially when there are excellent receivers to be had on day two and three).
Erik Flowers-- don't want a Miami ORT who got abused by Randy Gregory with the pick.
Andrus Peat-- don't want an inconsistent OT with man-boobs and chick-hips with the pick.
Malcom Brown-- don't want a DT with the pick.
Danny Shelton-- don't wnat a DT with the pick.

RE: Of those that are in the mix at #9....  
Milton : 4/13/2015 8:00 pm : link
And with such a long list of nots, it's a good chance one of them will be the selection.
Another vote for Landon Collins  
mfsd : 4/13/2015 8:11 pm : link
Although I can't imagine we'd consider him at #9.

If we're going to draft a safety high, make it a guy with serious range and cover skills, not another strong safety type
Parker's a half-year wonder, Milton?  
Klaatu : 4/13/2015 8:17 pm : link
I don't think so.
Shane Ray  
mavric : 4/13/2015 8:22 pm : link
Don't want another tweener - either pick a true LB or a true hand in the dirt 4-3 DE
RE: Parker's a half-year wonder, Milton?  
Milton : 4/13/2015 8:23 pm : link
Paul Emery, who watches hundereds of games per year, has this to say about thim....
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I have Parker a lot lower than most as I thought in 2013 he was fairly average, so you are putting all your eggs in the few games he played in 2014. Separation is the main concern.
Sucks for him that all he does is catch touchdown passes.  
Klaatu : 4/13/2015 8:38 pm : link
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RE: Of those that are in the mix at #9....  
CBSGameFace : 4/13/2015 11:11 pm : link
In comment 12231605 Milton said:
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Landon Collins--don't want a safety with the pick.
Davante Parker--don't want a one-half year wonder at WR who doesn't run the whole route tree with the pick (especially when there are excellent receivers to be had on day two and three).
Kevin White--don't want a one year wonder at WR who doesn't get separation with the pick (especially when there are excellent receivers to be had on day two and three).
Erik Flowers-- don't want a Miami ORT who got abused by Randy Gregory with the pick.
Andrus Peat-- don't want an inconsistent OT with man-boobs and chick-hips with the pick.
Malcom Brown-- don't want a DT with the pick.
Danny Shelton-- don't wnat a DT with the pick.


Agree with it all except for Shelton. He was dominant at the SB (except for Marpet who held his own against him).
Gregory  
Sneakers O'toole : 4/14/2015 1:48 am : link
the drug test thing would scare me off.
RE: RE: Of those that are in the mix at #9....  
Milton : 4/14/2015 4:45 am : link
In comment 12231846 CBSGameFace said:
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Agree with it all except for Shelton. He was dominant at the SB (except for Marpet who held his own against him).
I like Shelton--and Malcolm Brown, too--I just wouldn't want to see the Giants going DT with that pick. But like all of them that I mentioned, if the Giants pick the guy, I will get on board with it.
RE: Gregory  
Milton : 4/14/2015 4:49 am : link
In comment 12231888 Sneakers O'toole said:
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the drug test thing would scare me off.
I have mixed feeling about Gregory. Prior to the news of the positive drug test, he was my favorite prospect in the whole draft. After hearing the news and his half-baked explanation (no pun intended), I wanted nothing to do with him. But now I kind of feel like if the Giants do all their due diligence on him and come away thinking he is worth the gamble, then they are getting (IMO) the #1 prospect in the draft with the 9th pick.
Shelton  
Percy : 4/14/2015 9:57 am : link
I don't think he'll be successful in the NFL.
collins is one  
area junc : 4/14/2015 10:53 am : link
of those guys who is now underrated he gets dissed so much. he is a similar player to kenny phillips coming out and people talk like he's dogshit. that said i don't want him at 9 either
After the 1st rd. - Funchess  
njm : 4/14/2015 10:58 am : link
A tweener who would not contribute to the Giants significantly at either TE or WR.
Devante Parker  
KWALL2 : 4/14/2015 11:51 am : link
has 33 college TDs. That was one hell of a 1/2 year of college production!

I think you posted that name on the wrong thread.
Jameis Winston  
armstead98 : 4/14/2015 11:56 am : link
I trust the front office a lot more than I trust myself so there is almost nobody that they pick that would make me mad.

That said, I'd be pretty bummed if Jameis Winston is the pick because that means we've reached the end of a great era.

Obviously not happening this year but it will sometime.
Landon Collins  
yatqb : 4/14/2015 12:34 pm : link
Mediocre player.

Armstead and Dupree due to lack of performance compared to physical skills...but you know this is the type of player the Giants loved in the past.
Speaking of Punks....  
Bluesbreaker : 4/17/2015 1:32 am : link
RE: Two
OBJesus : 4/13/2015 6:48 pm : link : reply
In comment 12231546 Bluesbreaker said:
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Trae Waynes
Shane Ray
I hope they Extend Prince DRC is still decent
Shane Ray watched one game of his and he got tossed .
Seems like a Punk IMO


Kinda insulting to call Cro "decent" he played like a top 10 corner (borderline top 5) and was fighting off injuries almost all year
I know what kind of Talent he has . That said he was
considering quitting the game not long ago .
yet he is signed till 2019 extend Prince and we are
fine at CB .
You seem to want to single me out so take a hike
bitch boy .

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