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NFT: Mets Game 8 another Harvey Day

Headhunter : 4/14/2015 1:20 pm
Should be fun with a pumped up crowd
His first inning  
Shecky : 4/14/2015 1:29 pm : link
Should feel like the first ever playoff game at citi. If he opens the game with a K, that roar will sound amazing. Bossing he can get a lot of two strike counts so the fans can have a great time tonight!!
The dude has literally  
gmen9892 : 4/14/2015 1:35 pm : link
Pumped life back into this fan base. I know it was also electric yesterday for Opening Day, but I feel that this is all stemming from Harvey. Very pumped to see him on the bump tonight.
Hope it's a packed, loud house.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/14/2015 1:35 pm : link
The weather doesn't look very promising.
Harvey  
dep026 : 4/14/2015 1:36 pm : link
is going to literally make the Phillies look like a little league team today. Which isnt saying much since they already look like one.
Just bought a ticket!  
LoudenSwain : 4/14/2015 1:40 pm : link
So pumped. Wifey has relented and I'm off for a solo trip to citi. Plopped down a chunk of change for second row behind the dugout. Never would have done this last year. So true and unbelievable the magnitude of his impact on the franchise.
Feel like  
LoudenSwain : 4/14/2015 1:43 pm : link
I'm twelve again.
Louden  
Shecky : 4/14/2015 1:55 pm : link
Enjoy the game, congrats on the seats.
It feels  
Headhunter : 4/14/2015 1:59 pm : link
so different. Like the movie " Awakenings" coming out of a 6 year coma
Thanks  
LoudenSwain : 4/14/2015 2:01 pm : link
So pumped.
Excited for today, and can't imagine what it's going to be like when  
Eric on Li : 4/14/2015 2:11 pm : link
Thor/Matz/Montero fill out the rotation, or even just fill 3 or 4 out of 5.
There are tailgaters 5 hours before 1st pitch  
Headhunter : 4/14/2015 3:17 pm : link
tell me something isn't different around Citi Field
RE: There are tailgaters 5 hours before 1st pitch  
Shecky : 4/14/2015 3:20 pm : link
In comment 12232763 Headhunter said:
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tell me something isn't different around Citi Field


Quick. Someone tell the Front Office to look outside. They can start spending again. The fans are doing their part!!!
RE: It feels  
speedywheels : 4/14/2015 3:25 pm : link
In comment 12232602 Headhunter said:
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so different. Like the movie " Awakenings" coming out of a 6 year coma


Ha! Good one, HH...
When you think it's just you  
Headhunter : 4/14/2015 3:34 pm : link
and you see a rejuvenate fan base that sees the same thing, it's a good feeling. The vibe at Citi Field from people I know who went said it was different. If Harvey is Harvet tonight, you watch and see something you are not used to seeing, big crowds at Citi Field
.  
arcarsenal : 4/14/2015 3:49 pm : link
I was there yesterday, it was the most vibrant Citi Field has been in any year I've been there. The concourses were mobbed with people so if it looked like there were a few empty seats at points in the game, there were people everywhere.

We got there at 10:30 and the lot was FULL of tailgaters. Literally hundreds of Met fans out there hours before first pitch. Met colors everywhere. People were loud, they were excited. It was fun.
Was at the game yesterday  
Rich on LI : 4/14/2015 3:51 pm : link
and the mood was completely different from the last few years. This team has the potential to make things fun again at Citifield.
RE: It feels  
PhiPsi125 : 4/14/2015 3:54 pm : link
In comment 12232602 Headhunter said:
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so different. Like the movie " Awakenings" coming out of a 6 year coma


Dude, spoiler alert??? What a jerk.
Ed  
DanMetroMan : 4/14/2015 4:24 pm : link
Coleman says his gut feel is Mejia never pitches for the Mets again. Talk about hypocrites if this is accurate... who pitched opening day again? Did I dream up Marlon Byrd signing here?
RE: Ed  
Shecky : 4/14/2015 4:49 pm : link
In comment 12232882 DanMetroMan said:
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Coleman says his gut feel is Mejia never pitches for the Mets again. Talk about hypocrites if this is accurate... who pitched opening day again? Did I dream up Marlon Byrd signing here?


He probably never closes for them. But I'd be shocked if he never throws another pitch in a Mets uni. Whole team and organization are angry at him - and the whole story is More than just a failed piss test. It goes a drop deeper than just that. But never another pitch for the organization? I doubt that's the case.
im a yankees fan and a die hard one at that  
Tuckrule : 4/14/2015 4:56 pm : link
im looking forward more to Harvey than anything else. Must watch tv
RE: RE: Ed  
PhiPsi125 : 4/14/2015 5:09 pm : link
In comment 12232922 Shecky said:
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Coleman says his gut feel is Mejia never pitches for the Mets again. Talk about hypocrites if this is accurate... who pitched opening day again? Did I dream up Marlon Byrd signing here?



He probably never closes for them. But I'd be shocked if he never throws another pitch in a Mets uni. Whole team and organization are angry at him - and the whole story is More than just a failed piss test. It goes a drop deeper than just that. But never another pitch for the organization? I doubt that's the case.


What's the story behind "more than just a failed piss test"?
Thats so dumb.  
ZGiants98 : 4/14/2015 5:11 pm : link
Sandy has already said the organization has turned a page and is moving on. He'll be back after the all-star break but I agree he will never close again.
I bet he got tested when  
ZGiants98 : 4/14/2015 5:12 pm : link
he went for his MRI. So stupid taking Winstrol anyway. Barely does anything. Pretty minor steroid.
RE: Thats so dumb.  
DanMetroMan : 4/14/2015 5:14 pm : link
In comment 12232955 ZGiants98 said:
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Sandy has already said the organization has turned a page and is moving on. He'll be back after the all-star break but I agree he will never close again.


I didn't HEAR Sandy's tone but it actually sounded pretty dismissive.

"“That’s not going to slow us down,” Sandy Alderson told the Daily News about losing Mejia for 80 games, as well as the playoffs should the Mets get to October (April 14). “I hope our bullpen is pitching so well there is not a spot for him. I hope he is not a factor.”"

Maybe he's just pumping up the guys he has but to me it reads pretty "angry". I was really just focusing on Ed Coleman's claim.
I read a different quote that  
ZGiants98 : 4/14/2015 5:17 pm : link
was more just about Mejia that didn't sound that bad. Ill look for it when I get home later.
Vic Black  
ZGiants98 : 4/14/2015 5:20 pm : link
and Bobby Parnell are now active on the St. Lucie roster. I was under the impression Black was going to go straight to Vegas to pitch but I guess not yet. Both could conceivably be pitching in a game tonight.
Lineups  
ZGiants98 : 4/14/2015 5:22 pm : link
New York Mets

RF C. Granderson (L)
3B David Wright (R)
1B Lucas Duda (L)
LF Michael Cuddyer (R)
2B Daniel Murphy (L)
C Travis d’Arnaud (R)
CF Juan Lagares (R)
SS Wilmer Flores (R)
P Matt Harvey (R)
Philadelphia Phillies

CF Odubel Herrera (L)
SS Freddy Galvis (S)
2B Chase Utley (L)
1B Ryan Howard (L)
C Carlos Ruiz (R)
3B Cody Asche (L)
RF Grady Sizemore (L)
LF Ben Revere (L)
P David Buchanan (R)
Buchanan  
DanMetroMan : 4/14/2015 5:25 pm : link
formerly a Mets pick
Did we sign him?  
ZGiants98 : 4/14/2015 5:27 pm : link
Im not remembering him.
RE: Did we sign him?  
DanMetroMan : 4/14/2015 5:28 pm : link
In comment 12232979 ZGiants98 said:
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Im not remembering him.


No that was the year we didn't sign back to back high picks. Buchanan and Damien DJ Magnifico.
Buchanan had an excellent spring  
dep026 : 4/14/2015 5:33 pm : link
but got roughed up against the Sox. I expect him to pitch better tonight. His ceiling is only a number 4 though.

Not many of you follow the Phils that is needed, but a typical dumb move Amaro was signing Revere to arbitration. He was an abomination in CF last year, but people were enamored with his BA with no power.

Well it only took one offseason to find his replacement in CF (a rule 5 pick who never played it before), now he has been dropped to 8th in the lineup.

Revere is such a useless layer outside of pinch running, yet we rush to sign him as if he is some valuable piece.

Fuckign Amaro.
Louden ...  
Beezer : 4/14/2015 5:52 pm : link
Exzcellent.
Typo there.  
Beezer : 4/14/2015 5:53 pm : link
I did not insert that Z intentionally. lol
Ovine here is  
LoudenSwain : 4/14/2015 6:25 pm : link
So different. Elevator attendant spontaneously offered how awesome the vibe was yesterday. Expects almost 40k tonight. Expectation and hope bouncing around the joint. This place could be amazing with just a little sustained success. What an aw some night. And this is before first pitch!!
RE: RE: RE: Ed  
Shecky : 4/14/2015 6:25 pm : link
In comment 12232952 PhiPsi125 said:
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What's the story behind "more than just a failed piss test"?


I don't know any more than you do, just guessing there is more to it,that's all.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Ed  
arcarsenal : 4/14/2015 6:50 pm : link
In comment 12233042 Shecky said:
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What's the story behind "more than just a failed piss test"?



I don't know any more than you do, just guessing there is more to it,that's all.


So why does your post state it as if you do? You blatantly said "Whole team and organization are angry at him - and the whole story is More than just a failed piss test. It goes a drop deeper than just that." .. those were your words. I don't see any "maybe" in there or anything to suggest you're just guessing.
Just another regular season game  
Headhunter : 4/14/2015 6:57 pm : link
at dead Citi Field, no atmosphere, no energy
Bad choice of words I guess  
Shecky : 4/14/2015 7:11 pm : link
My bad
LOL..  
arcarsenal : 4/14/2015 7:14 pm : link
He's so good.
I'd imagine if they move on from Mejia it's not bc he's a "cheater"  
Eric on Li : 4/14/2015 7:16 pm : link
but more because they haven't liked his behavior in the past (they've called him selfish before) and view this as more of that. Even so I'd be shocked if they just got rid of him outright for a bag of balls. Worst case he's a nice luxury to have to save some innings on the arms of guys we will hopefully need for the postseason.
Well, that Utley HR was a little bit of a bummer..  
arcarsenal : 4/14/2015 7:18 pm : link
But the 3 K's weren't.
3 K's are great  
speedywheels : 4/14/2015 7:19 pm : link
Opposing HR's are not...
That was jarring but WTF  
Headhunter : 4/14/2015 7:19 pm : link
shit happens
Not to miller the game thread, but...  
speedywheels : 4/14/2015 7:22 pm : link
Anyone else delighting in the National's rough start? Yeah, yeah, it's early. But I like it...
Cuddy!  
arcarsenal : 4/14/2015 7:25 pm : link
.
Cuddy comes through  
speedywheels : 4/14/2015 7:26 pm : link
1-1
If Harvey is getting those low  
dep026 : 4/14/2015 7:32 pm : link
pitches that he got against Howard and Asche, he will have 15 Ks.
ouch  
Eric on Li : 4/14/2015 7:43 pm : link
that had to hurt.
LOLChooch  
arcarsenal : 4/14/2015 7:45 pm : link
Come on, DW!
RE: LOLChooch  
dep026 : 4/14/2015 7:46 pm : link
In comment 12233126 arcarsenal said:
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Come on, DW!


Making fun of the Phillies is like making fun of an athlete in the special olympics. Its just not nice.
You got your World Series a few years ago.  
arcarsenal : 4/14/2015 7:47 pm : link
I'm allowed to kick the Phillies while they're down
Ugh  
speedywheels : 4/14/2015 7:50 pm : link
These poor RISP AB's will come back to bite them...
Luke!!!  
arcarsenal : 4/14/2015 7:50 pm : link
.
20 mill man  
Rflairr : 4/14/2015 7:51 pm : link
can't even get the sac fly. Good Job Duda!!
Lucas Duda is seeing $$$ signs.  
PhiPsi125 : 4/14/2015 7:51 pm : link
..
Sure, Lucas  
speedywheels : 4/14/2015 7:52 pm : link
make me eat my words, lol...
Thats what we call  
dep026 : 4/14/2015 7:52 pm : link
game.

Buchanan sucks. And yet we dont have a single AAA pitcher who can pitch in the majors.
RE: 20 mill man  
PhiPsi125 : 4/14/2015 7:52 pm : link
In comment 12233135 Rflairr said:
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can't even get the sac fly. Good Job Duda!!


Dude, relax. DW worked that atbat.
Yeah maybe they should have been a little more flexible to lock him up  
Eric on Li : 4/14/2015 7:52 pm : link
He looks like the best hitter on the team by a mile.
There's the Cuddyer injury...  
arcarsenal : 4/14/2015 7:53 pm : link
Didn't even take 10 games.
surprised that Cuddyer even lasted this long  
PhiPsi125 : 4/14/2015 7:54 pm : link
He's on his way to a 50 game season, lol.
Aaaaand Cuddy is out of the game  
speedywheels : 4/14/2015 7:54 pm : link
Watching via internet - is he hurt bad?
Fuck yeah  
LoudenSwain : 4/14/2015 7:54 pm : link
Duda!!!!
RE: RE: LOLChooch  
timintey : 4/14/2015 7:55 pm : link
In comment 12233128 dep026 said:
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Come on, DW!



Making fun of the Phillies is like making fun of an athlete in the special olympics. Its just not nice.


Screw that. I caught so much shit from Philly fans in 2007 & 08. I show no mercy in kicking their teams when they're down...
fully expecting to hear thay Cuddyer has a broken hand  
PhiPsi125 : 4/14/2015 7:55 pm : link
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welp that's about the last thing you want for Cuddyer  
Eric on Li : 4/14/2015 7:55 pm : link
hopefully we get some good injury luck.
Yeah his hand is probably broken.  
arcarsenal : 4/14/2015 7:55 pm : link
Would be surprised if it wasn't.
Damn  
Rflairr : 4/14/2015 7:55 pm : link
that didnt look good for Cuddy
if you can't beat 'em  
Mike in NY : 4/14/2015 7:56 pm : link
bean 'em
RE: fully expecting to hear thay Cuddyer has a broken hand  
Eric on Li : 4/14/2015 7:56 pm : link
In comment 12233153 PhiPsi125 said:
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yup, that would be his luck.
Saw the replay with sound  
ChathamMark : 4/14/2015 7:56 pm : link
and it sure sounded like it hit hard. Ugh...
RE: RE: RE: LOLChooch  
speedywheels : 4/14/2015 7:56 pm : link
In comment 12233152 timintey said:
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Making fun of the Phillies is like making fun of an athlete in the special olympics. Its just not nice.



Screw that. I caught so much shit from Philly fans in 2007 & 08. I show no mercy in kicking their teams when they're down...


+1. Fuck the Phillies. And fuck the Eagles. And Flyers. Fuck everything about that g-d forsaken city...
Who is Harvey plunking this inning?  
Eric on Li : 4/14/2015 7:57 pm : link
Utley?
I hope Harvey beans their pitcher when he comes to bat  
PhiPsi125 : 4/14/2015 7:57 pm : link
Dick
RE: RE: fully expecting to hear thay Cuddyer has a broken hand  
PhiPsi125 : 4/14/2015 7:58 pm : link
In comment 12233161 Eric on Li said:
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yup, that would be his luck.


No, that would be the Mets luck. Just can't win...ever
Kirk!  
timintey : 4/14/2015 8:01 pm : link
nice snag
Ugh  
dep026 : 4/14/2015 8:02 pm : link
of course the guy who comes in for an injury makes an incredible play.
He wasn't  
Rflairr : 4/14/2015 8:05 pm : link
hit.
RE: He wasn't  
dep026 : 4/14/2015 8:07 pm : link
In comment 12233174 Rflairr said:
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hit.


Yes he was. You can hear it. Plain as day.
LOL..  
arcarsenal : 4/14/2015 8:08 pm : link
It didn't touch anything. What a stupid call.
keith is hilarious  
PhiPsi125 : 4/14/2015 8:08 pm : link
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RE: LOL..  
dep026 : 4/14/2015 8:09 pm : link
In comment 12233180 arcarsenal said:
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It didn't touch anything. What a stupid call.


Then what was the noise before hitting the catchers mitt?
RE: RE: He wasn't  
Rflairr : 4/14/2015 8:09 pm : link
In comment 12233176 dep026 said:
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hit.



Yes he was. You can hear it. Plain as day.


Plain as day, it didn't touch anything
Guys rolling and Collins wants to have a conversation  
bxgiants4 : 4/14/2015 8:09 pm : link
About the call.
He can't figure  
Rflairr : 4/14/2015 8:10 pm : link
out Utley
RE: RE: LOL..  
arcarsenal : 4/14/2015 8:11 pm : link
In comment 12233183 dep026 said:
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It didn't touch anything. What a stupid call.



Then what was the noise before hitting the catchers mitt?


The woosh of his sleeve from the ball flying past it about a millimeter away. They froze it right where it passed him and you could see a tiny space there. It didn't touch him
RE: RE: RE: He wasn't  
dep026 : 4/14/2015 8:12 pm : link
In comment 12233184 Rflairr said:
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hit.



Yes he was. You can hear it. Plain as day.



Plain as day, it didn't touch anything


Yes it did. Ball made contact with two things. The batter and the glove. You heard two different noises.
my dream scenario is to let Collins manage the Phillies  
PhiPsi125 : 4/14/2015 8:12 pm : link
Let all those fuckers go down in flames together.

Fucking Utley. Most annoying player ever.
The woosh of his sleeve  
dep026 : 4/14/2015 8:12 pm : link
seriously? Come on.
RE: RE: RE: RE: He wasn't  
PhiPsi125 : 4/14/2015 8:14 pm : link
In comment 12233195 dep026 said:
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hit.



Yes he was. You can hear it. Plain as day.



Plain as day, it didn't touch anything



Yes it did. Ball made contact with two things. The batter and the glove. You heard two different noises.


It could have hit two parts of the catchers mitt. Either way, definitely saw daylight between the batter and the ball.
How fucking audible..  
arcarsenal : 4/14/2015 8:14 pm : link
..do you think the sound of a baseball grazing a fiber of cotton is?

Come on.
RE: The woosh of his sleeve  
PhiPsi125 : 4/14/2015 8:14 pm : link
In comment 12233200 dep026 said:
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seriously? Come on.


LOL, love it.

The woosh!
RE: How fucking audible..  
dep026 : 4/14/2015 8:17 pm : link
In comment 12233209 arcarsenal said:
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..do you think the sound of a baseball grazing a fiber of cotton is?

Come on.


Ill wager that its more audible than passing the swoosh of the sleeve....lol
So fucking pissed off  
ZGiants98 : 4/14/2015 8:17 pm : link
Cuddyers hand is broken. Can't wait to see Cory Vaughn on the bench. And everyone will blame it on Cuddyer being injury prone. Like a 90 plus mph fastball in the hand/finger area isnt going to fuck up anyone.
RE: So fucking pissed off  
speedywheels : 4/14/2015 8:19 pm : link
In comment 12233214 ZGiants98 said:
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Cuddyers hand is broken. Can't wait to see Cory Vaughn on the bench. And everyone will blame it on Cuddyer being injury prone. Like a 90 plus mph fastball in the hand/finger area isnt going to fuck up anyone.


It's officially broken? Awesome...
RE: So fucking pissed off  
PhiPsi125 : 4/14/2015 8:20 pm : link
In comment 12233214 ZGiants98 said:
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Cuddyers hand is broken. Can't wait to see Cory Vaughn on the bench. And everyone will blame it on Cuddyer being injury prone. Like a 90 plus mph fastball in the hand/finger area isnt going to fuck up anyone.


It didn't fuck up Flores.

Cuddyer is an injury prone pussy.

Do you KNOW his hand is broken or are you just expecting it like the rest of us?
Not to pick a fight, but he IS injury prone  
speedywheels : 4/14/2015 8:20 pm : link
But to your point, getting hit on the hand is just terrible luck...
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dep026 : 4/14/2015 8:20 pm : link
In comment 12233206 PhiPsi125 said:
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Yes he was. You can hear it. Plain as day.



Plain as day, it didn't touch anything



Yes it did. Ball made contact with two things. The batter and the glove. You heard two different noises.



It could have hit two parts of the catchers mitt. Either way, definitely saw daylight between the batter and the ball.


Ill have to watch it again. But that was a pretty distinct to me. The timing of it made it impossible for it to be two different parts of the mitt (not sure how thats possible being that I caught over 15 years). I believe it hit him as he was trying to get it out of the way before the ball passed him.

Seemed like an easy call and there wasnt anything definitive to say it clearly went through.
Not broken.  
arcarsenal : 4/14/2015 8:21 pm : link
Just a bruise.
not broken  
PhiPsi125 : 4/14/2015 8:21 pm : link
Now hes a bigger pussy for coming out of the game, lol.
X Rays negative  
Ira : 4/14/2015 8:21 pm : link
on Cuddyer.
RE: Not to pick a fight, but he IS injury prone  
PhiPsi125 : 4/14/2015 8:21 pm : link
In comment 12233225 speedywheels said:
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But to your point, getting hit on the hand is just terrible luck...


I was just kidding.
if Cuddyer is hurt  
Mike in NY : 4/14/2015 8:22 pm : link
Soup would be called up. They are calling it a contusion
Cody Asche, huh?  
arcarsenal : 4/14/2015 8:22 pm : link
Alright...
Haha. I take it back  
ZGiants98 : 4/14/2015 8:22 pm : link
Cuddyer's bones are made of steel!
is it me or did Collins completely fuck up  
PhiPsi125 : 4/14/2015 8:23 pm : link
the feel of the game with that replay stunt.

I hate him.
RE: RE: Not to pick a fight, but he IS injury prone  
speedywheels : 4/14/2015 8:23 pm : link
In comment 12233231 PhiPsi125 said:
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But to your point, getting hit on the hand is just terrible luck...



I was just kidding.


I was replying to Z, I assumed you were kidding...
RE: Not to pick a fight, but he IS injury prone  
ZGiants98 : 4/14/2015 8:24 pm : link
In comment 12233225 speedywheels said:
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But to your point, getting hit on the hand is just terrible luck...


Eh. Mostly all freak random injuries in different areas mostly all in the last few years. I'd consider a guy with chronic knees or a chronic back injury prone but we probably have different definitions.
RE: is it me or did Collins completely fuck up  
ZGiants98 : 4/14/2015 8:28 pm : link
In comment 12233240 PhiPsi125 said:
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the feel of the game with that replay stunt.

I hate him.


Lol I was thinking the same thing.
I think we do  
speedywheels : 4/14/2015 8:28 pm : link
Injury prone to me means someone who is constantly injured. Either due to cronic injuries, freak occurrences, etc.

A guy who has played in 150+ games a whopping 3 times in 12 full seasons is injury prone...
it would be great if we could not brag about no-hitters before  
PhiPsi125 : 4/14/2015 8:29 pm : link
we play the actual game...especially when we can barely beat the braves and have Elmer Fudd for a manager.
Now they  
Rflairr : 4/14/2015 8:33 pm : link
Can't do shit against Buchanon
if we lose this game, I will 100% irrationally  
PhiPsi125 : 4/14/2015 8:36 pm : link
blame Elmer Fudd.
RE: if we lose this game, I will 100% irrationally  
Rflairr : 4/14/2015 8:37 pm : link
In comment 12233267 PhiPsi125 said:
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blame Elmer Fudd.


Why? Its the Dark Knight that isn't handling his business
RE: RE: if we lose this game, I will 100% irrationally  
PhiPsi125 : 4/14/2015 8:41 pm : link
In comment 12233269 Rflairr said:
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blame Elmer Fudd.



Why? Its the Dark Knight that isn't handling his business


Maybe because Harvey and the Mets were dealing before that idiotic seven minute challenge? Way to ice your own team.
Utley beaned!  
Giants4246 : 4/14/2015 8:42 pm : link
Haha fuck him
RE: Who is Harvey plunking this inning?  
Eric on Li : 4/14/2015 8:42 pm : link
In comment 12233165 Eric on Li said:
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Utley?


right church, wrong pew, as NY's #1 would say.
lol, Harvey is pissed.  
PhiPsi125 : 4/14/2015 8:43 pm : link
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Unreal  
Rflairr : 4/14/2015 8:44 pm : link
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That wasnt even close  
dep026 : 4/14/2015 8:44 pm : link
thats a bad call by the umpire.
Unbelievable.  
arcarsenal : 4/14/2015 8:45 pm : link
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What a fucking circus  
Giants4246 : 4/14/2015 8:47 pm : link
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Offense needs to step up  
Rflairr : 4/14/2015 8:47 pm : link
now
well, that was an interesting inning  
PhiPsi125 : 4/14/2015 8:47 pm : link
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Be sure to remove  
ZGiants98 : 4/14/2015 8:48 pm : link
An error off TDA's line at the end of the year. Complete bullshit.
This is a fun game  
Headhunter : 4/14/2015 8:48 pm : link
like the old days when the Mets didn't take shit from anybody
So glad Harvey hit Utley  
ZGiants98 : 4/14/2015 8:49 pm : link
Finally a pitcher with some balls.
RE: Be sure to remove  
PhiPsi125 : 4/14/2015 8:49 pm : link
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An error off TDA's line at the end of the year. Complete bullshit.


Yeah, but not the passed ball, lol
RE: it would be great if we could not brag about no-hitters before  
ZGiants98 : 4/14/2015 8:50 pm : link
In comment 12233256 PhiPsi125 said:
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we play the actual game...especially when we can barely beat the braves and have Elmer Fudd for a manager.


Is this directed at me? Are you fucking kidding? It was a joke. Nobody was bragging about shit
RE: So glad Harvey hit Utley  
PhiPsi125 : 4/14/2015 8:51 pm : link
In comment 12233297 ZGiants98 said:
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Finally a pitcher with some balls.


+10000000000000
RE: RE: So glad Harvey hit Utley  
sshin05 : 4/14/2015 8:52 pm : link
In comment 12233302 PhiPsi125 said:
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Finally a pitcher with some balls.



+10000000000000


Utley has been a met killer his whole career. I didn't have a problem with the blatant hbp.
RE: RE: it would be great if we could not brag about no-hitters before  
PhiPsi125 : 4/14/2015 8:53 pm : link
In comment 12233300 ZGiants98 said:
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we play the actual game...especially when we can barely beat the braves and have Elmer Fudd for a manager.



Is this directed at me? Are you fucking kidding? It was a joke. Nobody was bragging about shit


Half kidding. Relaaaaax. Wasn't directed at you. A bunch of people joked about it. Hell, I almost did.
Neither did Utley  
ZGiants98 : 4/14/2015 8:54 pm : link
That's how you play the game.
RE: RE: RE: it would be great if we could not brag about no-hitters before  
ZGiants98 : 4/14/2015 8:54 pm : link
In comment 12233309 PhiPsi125 said:
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we play the actual game...especially when we can barely beat the braves and have Elmer Fudd for a manager.



Is this directed at me? Are you fucking kidding? It was a joke. Nobody was bragging about shit



Half kidding. Relaaaaax. Wasn't directed at you. A bunch of people joked about it. Hell, I almost did.


Ok ok. My bad. Lol
WOW  
Rflairr : 4/14/2015 8:55 pm : link
Not sure about that. I thought he was safe at first
lol, this game is nuts  
PhiPsi125 : 4/14/2015 8:56 pm : link
..
Worst umped game ever  
timintey : 4/14/2015 8:56 pm : link
!
Holy shit.  
arcarsenal : 4/14/2015 8:56 pm : link
This is unbelievable.
clearly safe  
PhiPsi125 : 4/14/2015 8:57 pm : link
but watch this go against the Mets
Ump  
sshin05 : 4/14/2015 8:57 pm : link
is having a tough game
This home plate  
ZGiants98 : 4/14/2015 8:57 pm : link
Umpire needs to be shot.
Lagares  
Rflairr : 4/14/2015 9:00 pm : link
trying to hit a HR with every swing. WTF is going on with him
Harv has to give us one more scoreless frame here  
arcarsenal : 4/14/2015 9:00 pm : link
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Not only do the Phillies suck  
dep026 : 4/14/2015 9:03 pm : link
but McCarthy is even worse as an announcer. He was GUSHING and Screaming about the throw Revere made to home plate. It was 30 feet from the IF against Lucas Duda, and it still didnt reach home. Any other LF guns him down.
I'm still trying to wrap my head around that play at the plate  
PhiPsi125 : 4/14/2015 9:05 pm : link
Tim Teufel sends Duda when he probably shouldn't have. Duda is clearly safe but the HP ump doesn't make a call. Duda and the catcher have moment in disbelief before both diving for the plate like it was a cartoon. Then the HP ump calls Duda safe when it didn't even look like Duda got back to the plate.

Does that cover it? My head hurts.
RE: Not only do the Phillies suck  
Mike in NY : 4/14/2015 9:05 pm : link
In comment 12233335 dep026 said:
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but McCarthy is even worse as an announcer. He was GUSHING and Screaming about the throw Revere made to home plate. It was 30 feet from the IF against Lucas Duda, and it still didnt reach home. Any other LF guns him down.


Any other LF Teufel holds Duda
RE: I'm still trying to wrap my head around that play at the plate  
dep026 : 4/14/2015 9:07 pm : link
In comment 12233337 PhiPsi125 said:
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Tim Teufel sends Duda when he probably shouldn't have. Duda is clearly safe but the HP ump doesn't make a call. Duda and the catcher have moment in disbelief before both diving for the plate like it was a cartoon. Then the HP ump calls Duda safe when it didn't even look like Duda got back to the plate.

Does that cover it? My head hurts.


1. Revere has the worst arm in baseball.
2. The ump didnt make a call because Ruiz never tagged him and he thought Duda missed the plate.
3. He called him safe because Duda got his hand under the glove of Ruiz and he assumed he hit the plate.

They got it right, which is all that matters.
Nimmo  
Headhunter : 4/14/2015 9:08 pm : link
with HR number 2
Nice Parnell with a scoreless inning  
ZGiants98 : 4/14/2015 9:12 pm : link
Black gave up a homerun.
Phillies  
sshin05 : 4/14/2015 9:20 pm : link
are a team the mets should beat a lot but after the first two games, they might be a thorn on the mets side all season long.
Short bench  
sshin05 : 4/14/2015 9:21 pm : link
giving is the disadvantage here
RE: Short bench  
Rflairr : 4/14/2015 9:23 pm : link
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giving is the disadvantage here


This made no sense in the first place. Campbell should be up here.
Kirk  
Mike in NY : 4/14/2015 9:24 pm : link
Needs to take the bat off his shoulder there
get the bat off your shoulder, Kirk  
PhiPsi125 : 4/14/2015 9:24 pm : link
Jesus Christ
RE: RE: Short bench  
sshin05 : 4/14/2015 9:26 pm : link
In comment 12233353 Rflairr said:
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giving is the disadvantage here



This made no sense in the first place. Campbell should be up here.


I mostly agree. He's killing it in Vegas btw. I understand they wanted to protect the starting pitching in the early going but if flo, Juan, and murph were hitting this wouldn't be an issue.
Nice inning  
ZGiants98 : 4/14/2015 9:32 pm : link
Carlyle.
Campbell is going to be up  
ZGiants98 : 4/14/2015 9:33 pm : link
Tomorrow. No way they don't call him up if Cuddyer is out a couple days. Bye bye Goedell
I think meijia's injury and now suspension  
sshin05 : 4/14/2015 9:33 pm : link
is becoming a blessing in disguise. Although Collins have designated familia as the closer, he's forced to go match up by match up regardless of inning.
RE: Not only do the Phillies suck  
feelflows : 4/14/2015 9:34 pm : link
In comment 12233335 dep026 said:
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but McCarthy is even worse as an announcer. He was GUSHING and Screaming about the throw Revere made to home plate. It was 30 feet from the IF against Lucas Duda, and it still didnt reach home. Any other LF guns him down.


Dep, I almost shit myself when he said it wasn't catchers interference.

When the pitcher doubled I heard him bust a nut.
Murph man!  
arcarsenal : 4/14/2015 9:35 pm : link
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before he said home run  
feelflows : 4/14/2015 9:36 pm : link
McCarthy said "well, wouldn't have been one last year, but its one this year. Home run for Murphy. "

Sounded like he put his dog to sleep lol
I can't believe  
sshin05 : 4/14/2015 9:46 pm : link
mccarthy called mets games a few years back. Good riddance. Lewin is so much better.
Why are we even throwing this guy strikes?  
arcarsenal : 4/14/2015 9:48 pm : link
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cant believe  
spike : 4/14/2015 9:49 pm : link
they cant drive in a guy from 2nd with no outs
Utley has a good swing  
sshin05 : 4/14/2015 9:49 pm : link
sometimes im shocked he struggles. Dude kills mets
Utley just wants  
ZGiants98 : 4/14/2015 9:50 pm : link
To kill us tonight man.
RE: Utley just wants  
sshin05 : 4/14/2015 9:52 pm : link
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To kill us tonight man.


Anything middle and in, he'll destroy, I'm not sure about his oppo power however.
The radio coverage was brutal tonight  
Go Terps : 4/14/2015 9:57 pm : link
Constant analysis of Harvey's demeanor, facial expressions, and whether or not he was mad. The brakes need to be pumped a bit.

Also, the dark knight is the worst nickname in sports.
Big out for Rafa  
arcarsenal : 4/14/2015 9:59 pm : link
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I love the  
Headhunter : 4/14/2015 10:00 pm : link
Dark Knight and I don't give a fuck about the radio guys talking about his demeanor. Dial what back? 6 innings 3 runs no walks and 8k's. Most pitchers would sign up for that in a NY minute
RE: RE: Utley just wants  
dep026 : 4/14/2015 10:01 pm : link
In comment 12233392 sshin05 said:
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To kill us tonight man.



Anything middle and in, he'll destroy, I'm not sure about his oppo power however.


Dont quote me on this, but Utley has 1 oppo home run in the last 5 or 6 years.
So glad to hear  
ZGiants98 : 4/14/2015 10:08 pm : link
The Marlins are heating up. Just in time.
aw fuck  
Mike in NY : 4/14/2015 10:11 pm : link
.
Unbelievable..  
arcarsenal : 4/14/2015 10:12 pm : link
Can't even slide into 2B without getting hurt. It amazes me how baseball players get hurt so freaking easily.
This is the biggest cluster fuck  
ZGiants98 : 4/14/2015 10:12 pm : link
Now Wright is gone. Lol
This is why  
Rflairr : 4/14/2015 10:12 pm : link
you don't carry all those pitchers.
well, so much for praying for health this season, right?  
PhiPsi125 : 4/14/2015 10:13 pm : link
This team had NO luck whatsoever.
deGrom has been a SS  
Mike in NY : 4/14/2015 10:13 pm : link
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4 man bench is so fucking stupid.  
ZGiants98 : 4/14/2015 10:13 pm : link
Ugh. This sherade needs to end
im just waiting for the announcement that Thor needs  
PhiPsi125 : 4/14/2015 10:15 pm : link
TJ surgery after his forearm stiffness and MRI.
RE: 4 man bench is so fucking stupid.  
Rflairr : 4/14/2015 10:15 pm : link
In comment 12233428 ZGiants98 said:
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Ugh. This sherade needs to end


If you're in the NL, you should never have a 4 man bench.
This game  
sshin05 : 4/14/2015 10:19 pm : link
has become a shit show for the mets
Recker at 3B.. wow.  
arcarsenal : 4/14/2015 10:19 pm : link
This has disaster written all over it
Campbell needs to be back up on the bench here.  
arcarsenal : 4/14/2015 10:19 pm : link
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Yeah  
sshin05 : 4/14/2015 10:20 pm : link
a shit show
David pulled his hammy  
Mike in NY : 4/14/2015 10:22 pm : link
Hello Soup
Ugh.. and once again we're going to lose Wright.  
arcarsenal : 4/14/2015 10:23 pm : link
Guy can't stay on the damn field anymore
Move Flores to 3rd  
Giants2012 : 4/14/2015 10:23 pm : link
after tonight
See ya  
timintey : 4/14/2015 10:24 pm : link
ugly game...
RE: Move Flores to 3rd  
Mike in NY : 4/14/2015 10:24 pm : link
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after tonight


Then Tejada is playing SS. Call up Soup to play 3B
hamstring strain  
Headhunter : 4/14/2015 10:25 pm : link
for DW
I would move Murphy to 3rd and keep  
sshin05 : 4/14/2015 10:27 pm : link
flores at SS. Tejada 2nd. Ugh messes up with the lineup. Campbell has to come up with the pulled hammy of Wright. Possibly add another position player so hello Muno?
They're not going to move Flores off SS.  
arcarsenal : 4/14/2015 10:27 pm : link
They want him playing there every day until they feel like they know he's either a viable option long-term or not.
Bittersweet victory  
PhiPsi125 : 4/14/2015 10:28 pm : link
Lose two power hitters to injury. At least DW's hammy is a strain and not a tear. Silver lining.

Fuck the Phillies. Nothing ever good comes from playing them. Satan's team. Ironically, their team color is red.

Now we have Niese and Gee coming up. Gross.
He's a 3rd baseman playing SS  
Giants2012 : 4/14/2015 10:28 pm : link
Moving him is a no brainer.
RE: Ugh.. and once again we're going to lose Wright.  
feelflows : 4/14/2015 10:29 pm : link
In comment 12233439 arcarsenal said:
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Guy can't stay on the damn field anymore


I was hoping i was wrong on the prediction thread. Athletes don't get LESS injury prone as they get older. Let's hope its a quick, but I'm not surprised in the least.
Niese  
sshin05 : 4/14/2015 10:32 pm : link
should neutralize the lefties but ruf and franceour will probably start. Also Blevins is hopefully available tomorrow. I think Collins is about to destroy his career. DW will probably be dl'd unless the doctors are absolutely positive he can play in a couple days.
It's not a no brainer.  
arcarsenal : 4/14/2015 10:33 pm : link
And they're not going to move him there. Campbell will come up and play there or they can put Murphy there and play Tejada at 2B.
It was better  
sshin05 : 4/14/2015 10:33 pm : link
if DW was out from a cs than lose him for a number of games.
Also  
sshin05 : 4/14/2015 10:36 pm : link
if they score 6 runs a game for Harvey, he'll win almost every start.
He's only a SS  
Giants2012 : 4/14/2015 10:36 pm : link
B/c the 3rd baseman makes a fortune and they want his bat in this weak lineup.
The 3rd baseman is the best hitter on the team.  
arcarsenal : 4/14/2015 10:39 pm : link
He just can't stay healthy. He's not just playing because he makes a lot of money.

They want to see if Flores can man SS or not. It was obvious when Tejada got his start at 2B. Alderson pretty clearly made it known to Collins that Flores is going to play SS every day for some amount of time and I don't see them abandoning that now.
Silver lining  
sshin05 : 4/14/2015 10:40 pm : link
flo will hit higher in the lineup and so will Travis.
Collins LOL'd at the 4 man bench not being enough..  
arcarsenal : 4/14/2015 10:42 pm : link
"We're doing good enough aren't we? Heheh!"

This guy is such a fucking dope.
Best hitter on the team my tail  
Giants2012 : 4/14/2015 10:43 pm : link
The kid isn't a SS and everybody worth their salt knows it. The team has nothing at the position so they put Flores there b/c of his bat. If any lother SS could hit their weight Flores would be off SS.
If DWs injury is severe enough  
sshin05 : 4/14/2015 10:45 pm : link
dl him and call up Campbell
Duda is the only other guy you can make an argument for.  
arcarsenal : 4/14/2015 10:47 pm : link
There is no other player on this team who is as good a hitter as David Wright and it's not even debatable.

If everyone knew Flores couldn't play SS at all, he wouldn't be there right now. They'd be hoping for replacement level with Tejada or have fast tracked Reynolds a bit.

If he hits the way they think he can, it'll be worth it. They're not going to jump ship on it 9 games into the year.
Gary Apple just called Matt Harvey the Black Knight  
PhiPsi125 : 4/14/2015 10:47 pm : link
lol
Listening to Collins  
Rflairr : 4/14/2015 10:52 pm : link
It sounds like the Wright injury is serious.

Just can't count on Wright to stay healthy
Thought you meant 3rd base in general  
Giants2012 : 4/14/2015 10:54 pm : link
Yes, Wright is likely the best hitter if not Murphy. Regardless, put Flores on a different team and he's a 3rd baseman. He's not a SS and eveybody besides a few knows that. Not putting Flores at SS means what? The Mets will still hope his bat produces? Don't tell me you really believe his range and glove to the side is going to improve. This is as good as his defense is going to get and that's not very good.
Collins made it sound like Wright's leg was hanging  
PhiPsi125 : 4/14/2015 10:55 pm : link
off his body...yet Wright stayed in the game at first and then briskly walked off the field and down the steps on his own power with just a slight limp. Weird game all the way until the end.

Hopefully its not THAT serious.
His glove hasn't really been the issue.  
arcarsenal : 4/14/2015 10:58 pm : link
For whatever reason he's made bad throws to 1B.. which is out of the ordinary because he has a good arm and has been pretty accurate in the past. He's a young kid who is probably nervous and putting an insane amount of pressure on himself. He was adequate in the field last year when he started getting regular PT. If he hits, his defense won't be the end of the world.

Ian Desmond has been an absolute joke defensively so far this year.. I don't foresee him losing his place anytime soon because he can hit.
RE: Thought you meant 3rd base in general  
PhiPsi125 : 4/14/2015 10:58 pm : link
In comment 12233482 Giants2012 said:
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Yes, Wright is likely the best hitter if not Murphy. Regardless, put Flores on a different team and he's a 3rd baseman. He's not a SS and eveybody besides a few knows that. Not putting Flores at SS means what? The Mets will still hope his bat produces? Don't tell me you really believe his range and glove to the side is going to improve. This is as good as his defense is going to get and that's not very good.


Honestly, again with the range? Holy fucking shit. Outside of a couple of plays that really only outstanding shortstops get to, what the hell are you seeing that we are not? That one bad game aside, what games has he lost for the Mets because of his "bad range"?

Are you just regurgitating the ignorant media bullshit that they all seem to be reporting from the same 5 year old scouting report?
Nervous lol  
Giants2012 : 4/14/2015 11:03 pm : link
Who the heck gets nervous on a routine GB and throw? A SS can do it with his eyes closed. He's not a SS.
Despite 10 total baserunners in his first two starts  
sshin05 : 4/14/2015 11:04 pm : link
harveys whip is still under 1
RE: Nervous lol  
PhiPsi125 : 4/14/2015 11:05 pm : link
In comment 12233490 Giants2012 said:
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Who the heck gets nervous on a routine GB and throw? A SS can do it with his eyes closed. He's not a SS.


Well, you can't argue with stupid...and you are proving that in spades right now.

I don't know where you came from but I wish you would go back there.
RE: Despite 10 total baserunners in his first two starts  
PhiPsi125 : 4/14/2015 11:06 pm : link
In comment 12233491 sshin05 said:
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harveys whip is still under 1


It's funny that this is a "bad" start for Harvey.

Larger than life.
RE: Nervous lol  
sshin05 : 4/14/2015 11:07 pm : link
In comment 12233490 Giants2012 said:
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Who the heck gets nervous on a routine GB and throw? A SS can do it with his eyes closed. He's not a SS.


With only 8 games this season, you have to give him more of a chance to fail. Unless ur some baseball expert or scout.
Kershaw's WHIP is 1.70 and ERA is 5.84  
PhiPsi125 : 4/14/2015 11:09 pm : link
Haha, he sux
RE: Nervous lol  
arcarsenal : 4/14/2015 11:10 pm : link
In comment 12233490 Giants2012 said:
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Who the heck gets nervous on a routine GB and throw? A SS can do it with his eyes closed. He's not a SS.


Gee, I don't know.. maybe a fucking 23 year old kid playing baseball in front of tens of thousands of people on television at a position he hasn't had much experience playing since he was a kid?

These are people, not robots. Nerves are a part of sports. There are 10 million examples of baseball players who have had the yips and struggled with routine shit for a time. It happens.

Though, considering who I'm arguing with.. I wouldn't expect you to know that.
RE: RE: Nervous lol  
Giants2012 : 4/14/2015 11:11 pm : link
In comment 12233494 sshin05 said:
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Who the heck gets nervous on a routine GB and throw? A SS can do it with his eyes closed. He's not a SS.



With only 8 games this season, you have to give him more of a chance to fail. Unless ur some baseball expert or scout.


The experts and scout had him pegged as a 3rd baseman. The Mets themselves moved to 3rd in 2012. Even the novices should know that. Not to mention, he's been take off SS on multiple occassions since the age if 16 if you haven't been paying attention outisde of 8 RG games.
RE: RE: Nervous lol  
Giants2012 : 4/14/2015 11:14 pm : link
In comment 12233497 arcarsenal said:
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Who the heck gets nervous on a routine GB and throw? A SS can do it with his eyes closed. He's not a SS.



Gee, I don't know.. maybe a fucking 23 year old kid playing baseball in front of tens of thousands of people on television at a position he hasn't had much experience playing since he was a kid?

These are people, not robots. Nerves are a part of sports. There are 10 million examples of baseball players who have had the yips and struggled with routine shit for a time. It happens.

Though, considering who I'm arguing with.. I wouldn't expect you to know that.



The only thing you got correct is "you don't know" followed by the daily meltown. He's been playing SS on and off since the age of 16. Not that you would know that either.
He played SS for 4 years in the Mets organization when he first arrive  
ZGiants98 : 4/14/2015 11:16 pm : link
He was moved off the position and then moved back and has been there for well over a year now. I don't know why this is such a phenomenon.
DW  
sphinx : 4/14/2015 11:20 pm : link
Adam Rubin
David Wright sounds prepared to go on DL. Will have MRI in morning. Says missing 2 weeks preferable to pushing through, causing major issue.


Eric Campbell summoned to NY

RE: RE: RE: Nervous lol  
sshin05 : 4/14/2015 11:24 pm : link
In comment 12233501 Giants2012 said:
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In comment 12233490 Giants2012 said:


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Who the heck gets nervous on a routine GB and throw? A SS can do it with his eyes closed. He's not a SS.



Gee, I don't know.. maybe a fucking 23 year old kid playing baseball in front of tens of thousands of people on television at a position he hasn't had much experience playing since he was a kid?

These are people, not robots. Nerves are a part of sports. There are 10 million examples of baseball players who have had the yips and struggled with routine shit for a time. It happens.

Though, considering who I'm arguing with.. I wouldn't expect you to know that.




The only thing you got correct is "you don't know" followed by the daily meltown. He's been playing SS on and off since the age of 16. Not that you would know that either.


We don't know how well he will play SS but we know his bat has always play in that position. Players who has his numbers in the minors more than not have done well in the majors.
RE: DW  
sshin05 : 4/14/2015 11:28 pm : link
In comment 12233507 sphinx said:
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Adam Rubin
David Wright sounds prepared to go on DL. Will have MRI in morning. Says missing 2 weeks preferable to pushing through, causing major issue.


Eric Campbell summoned to NY


If they dl dw now, he can technically be back before May. Most likely give him 2-3 games in the minors before deactivating him.
RE: RE: RE: Nervous lol  
arcarsenal : 4/14/2015 11:31 pm : link
In comment 12233501 Giants2012 said:
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Who the heck gets nervous on a routine GB and throw? A SS can do it with his eyes closed. He's not a SS.



Gee, I don't know.. maybe a fucking 23 year old kid playing baseball in front of tens of thousands of people on television at a position he hasn't had much experience playing since he was a kid?

These are people, not robots. Nerves are a part of sports. There are 10 million examples of baseball players who have had the yips and struggled with routine shit for a time. It happens.

Though, considering who I'm arguing with.. I wouldn't expect you to know that.




The only thing you got correct is "you don't know" followed by the daily meltown. He's been playing SS on and off since the age of 16. Not that you would know that either.


Uh, he was moved off SS in the minors after 2011. He didn't play there at all in 2012 or 2013. Nothing I said was inaccurate. He was 19 years old in 2011 and until last season, he literally did not play there at all. He was moved to 2B and 3B.

Good effort, though. One day you'll contribute something interesting or insightful to a Met thread.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Nervous lol  
Giants2012 : 4/14/2015 11:36 pm : link
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Who the heck gets nervous on a routine GB and throw? A SS can do it with his eyes closed. He's not a SS.



Gee, I don't know.. maybe a fucking 23 year old kid playing baseball in front of tens of thousands of people on television at a position he hasn't had much experience playing since he was a kid?

These are people, not robots. Nerves are a part of sports. There are 10 million examples of baseball players who have had the yips and struggled with routine shit for a time. It happens.

Though, considering who I'm arguing with.. I wouldn't expect you to know that.




The only thing you got correct is "you don't know" followed by the daily meltown. He's been playing SS on and off since the age of 16. Not that you would know that either.



Uh, he was moved off SS in the minors after 2011. He didn't play there at all in 2012 or 2013. Nothing I said was inaccurate. He was 19 years old in 2011 and until last season, he literally did not play there at all. He was moved to 2B and 3B.

Good effort, though. One day you'll contribute something interesting or insightful to a Met thread.


Wrong again and despite being a huge fan of yourself perhaps you might consider posting some accurate information rather than whining at others daily. You've become the Crosby of BBI with all the whining.
Cambell is literally  
ZGiants98 : 4/14/2015 11:37 pm : link
scorching hot hitting .550. I hope he gets the immediate start tomorrow and he's not riding pine for the likes of Tejada.
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arcarsenal : 4/14/2015 11:47 pm : link
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Who the heck gets nervous on a routine GB and throw? A SS can do it with his eyes closed. He's not a SS.



Gee, I don't know.. maybe a fucking 23 year old kid playing baseball in front of tens of thousands of people on television at a position he hasn't had much experience playing since he was a kid?

These are people, not robots. Nerves are a part of sports. There are 10 million examples of baseball players who have had the yips and struggled with routine shit for a time. It happens.

Though, considering who I'm arguing with.. I wouldn't expect you to know that.




The only thing you got correct is "you don't know" followed by the daily meltown. He's been playing SS on and off since the age of 16. Not that you would know that either.



Uh, he was moved off SS in the minors after 2011. He didn't play there at all in 2012 or 2013. Nothing I said was inaccurate. He was 19 years old in 2011 and until last season, he literally did not play there at all. He was moved to 2B and 3B.

Good effort, though. One day you'll contribute something interesting or insightful to a Met thread.



Wrong again and despite being a huge fan of yourself perhaps you might consider posting some accurate information rather than whining at others daily. You've become the Crosby of BBI with all the whining.


Ah, the village idiot strikes again. Where did Wilmer Flores play SS in 2012 or 2013? Would love to know.
Whatever you guess at Crosby  
Giants2012 : 4/14/2015 11:51 pm : link
Learn to read #87. Clearly posted above

>>>The experts and scout had him pegged as a 3rd baseman. The Mets themselves moved to 3rd in 2012. Even the novices should know that. Not to mention, he's been take off SS on multiple occassions since the age if 16 if you haven't been paying attention outisde of 8 RG games.<<<

Enjoy your meltdown
Quoting your own nonsense? LOL..  
arcarsenal : 4/15/2015 12:01 am : link
You can't even construct a string of simple, grammatically correct sentences.

I'm afraid I just cannot take you seriously. (Not that anyone on these threads does)

Nothing I posted was "wrong"

Until last season, he hadn't played SS since he was a 19 year old kid. Hence, he doesn't have all that much recent experience there... which was kind of my point. Unsurprisingly, you're just as bad at understanding English as you are speaking/typing it.

Now I remember why I intended on ignoring you.
Crosby  
Giants2012 : 4/15/2015 12:14 am : link
You're wrong. Your theories about "he's nervous" blah, blah, blah is your bias nonsense. Did you even play the game beyond Little League? You don't sound like you understand the game as your bias tantrums have more to do with emotion b/c the kid simply wears a Mets uniform. Myself and many love the kid like F-Mart but put down the kool aid. He's not a SS despite your Crosby tantrum and it's not nerves. A SS can field and throw in his sleep much like a CF glides back for a ball or takes his first step back on a ball hit right at him. Not that you demonstrate you know much besides reciting where the play occurred (impressive acumen)and pulling a Crosby with others while praising yourself for bias reasons.
I went to the game.  
NyquistX3 : 4/15/2015 1:13 am : link
The place was about to explode after Harvey got to 2 strikes on Utley.
Injuries are killing this team already  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2015 8:38 am : link
So frustrating.
RE: Crosby  
arcarsenal : 4/15/2015 8:40 am : link
In comment 12233545 Giants2012 said:
Quote:
You're wrong. Your theories about "he's nervous" blah, blah, blah is your bias nonsense. Did you even play the game beyond Little League? You don't sound like you understand the game as your bias tantrums have more to do with emotion b/c the kid simply wears a Mets uniform. Myself and many love the kid like F-Mart but put down the kool aid. He's not a SS despite your Crosby tantrum and it's not nerves. A SS can field and throw in his sleep much like a CF glides back for a ball or takes his first step back on a ball hit right at him. Not that you demonstrate you know much besides reciting where the play occurred (impressive acumen)and pulling a Crosby with others while praising yourself for bias reasons.


I think "biased" is the word you're looking for. Try using the phrase correctly before putting it in yet another nonsensical paragraph 10 times. You sound like even more of a moron than you already are. Again simple English is quite the struggle for the simple mind. No surprises here.

If you don't think nerves and pressure are a part of sports, I don't know what to tell you. Only thousands of athletes who have actually played the game have revealed that and it's just common sense. Flores is perfectly capable of throwing the ball to first base. He's done it thousands of times.

How long was Knoblauch in baseball before he started sailing throws to 1B like it was his job? That was a guy with a Gold Glove on his resume and numerous All-Star appearances. "Not a SS", though.. right?
Leave it to the phillies to make a Harvey start an  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/15/2015 8:48 am : link
unwatchable and bad game
well at least the news on Cuddyer and Flores...  
Italianju : 4/15/2015 8:53 am : link
was positive. More Cuddyer i guess since we assumed Flores was ok since he stayed in the game. Hopefully by being smart with this Wright can just miss a couple weeks, that said i feel like he is going to miss more then that.
Nothing to see here...  
arcarsenal : 4/15/2015 8:55 am : link
Quote:
Nationals third baseman Ryan Zimmerman, a Gold Glove Award recipient in 2009, made four throwing errors in a five-game span in April. His manager, Davey Johnson, attempted to pin the problem on Zimmerman's surgically repaired shoulder. Zimmerman, however, deflected that excuse and hinted that the issue was a mental one.
"People make errors. It's going to happen again before the year is over," Zimmerman said. "Everyone is going to make errors. It's part of the game. Nobody wants it to happen. Of course, you feel bad. You play baseball long enough, that kind of stuff happens. It's part of the game. If you let it consume you, that's what gets you."


Quote:
Tyner witnessed pitcher Matt Garza, then his teammate in Tampa Bay, struggle to complete ordinary throws to first base.
"If you bunted on him, he's throwing it down the right-field line," Tyner said. "It wasn't even close. You'd see him over on a back field working on it and it'd look like a 6-year-old trying to throw to first base. He could throw 95 mph wherever he wants to the batter, but he could not throw the ball to first base."


Quote:
Indians closer Chris Perez has seen infielders and pitchers alike demonstrate symptoms of the Yips, with their minds only getting in their way.
"They're telling themselves before it's hit, 'Don't throw it in the dirt,'" Perez said. "And of course, they throw it right in the dirt."


No way a mental hurdle could have been getting in the way of a 23 year old kid's fielding with limited experience even though he's demonstrated in the past that he's perfectly capable of adequately fielding the position.

LOL.

Just something I made up... - ( New Window )
I disagree  
Headhunter : 4/15/2015 8:59 am : link
I found it a bad game that was highly entertaining. Guys hit by a pitch that weren't, catcher's interference that wasn't , Cuddyer gets hurt and the first play his replacement makes is the number 1 defensive highlight of the night. Utley who took out someone in a borderline dirty slide a couple of years ago got drilled and stared down by Harvey. Ryan Howard showing the athleticism of a cadaver. Familia making it interesting before closing the door. Davis Wright teaching Little Leaguers how not to slide. Terry Collins appeals a play that is not appeal able and ices Matt Harvey. Terry Collins gets thrown out. The Mets win
Well at least the lineup  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2015 9:00 am : link
was together for one whole week! Too bad most of them were ice cold during said week!
Cuddyer getting hurt pisses me off  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/15/2015 9:04 am : link
especially since it seemed like he was warming up.

That kind of sapped the fun out of the game.
That's the point where  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2015 9:08 am : link
I started to get pissed off too. Especially since it happened after Flores had already got hit.

I really want to sweep this fuckers tonight now. Fuck last night.
RE: I disagree  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2015 9:19 am : link
In comment 12233654 Headhunter said:
Quote:
I found it a bad game that was highly entertaining. Guys hit by a pitch that weren't, catcher's interference that wasn't , Cuddyer gets hurt and the first play his replacement makes is the number 1 defensive highlight of the night. Utley who took out someone in a borderline dirty slide a couple of years ago got drilled and stared down by Harvey. Ryan Howard showing the athleticism of a cadaver. Familia making it interesting before closing the door. Davis Wright teaching Little Leaguers how not to slide. Terry Collins appeals a play that is not appeal able and ices Matt Harvey. Terry Collins gets thrown out. The Mets win


Dont forget Recker playing 3rd! lol
It looks  
Metnut : 4/15/2015 9:20 am : link
like none of the injuries are serious, so nothing to panic about. The Nats are dealing with a lot of injuries to their line up (and Zimmerman and Strasburg looking like dogshit).

Hopefully Wright can avoid the DL and play vs Florida this weekend, but it looks like they are going to keep him out for 2 weeks as a precaution. It's nice to see Duda and D'Arnaud hitting.

I didn't think Niese looked too good in his first outing. Would love to see a strong outing from him against a bad Philly team. Win tonight, split the Gee/Colon games vs FLA, and win the DeGrom/Harvey games and we are off and running!
Say what you want about the game  
Shecky : 4/15/2015 9:22 am : link
But you can't deny it was an exciting game to watch. Memorable. The stadium was rocking, and the fans were rewarded. When was the last time a Mets game felt like that in the regular season???
RE: Say what you want about the game  
Metnut : 4/15/2015 9:24 am : link
In comment 12233688 Shecky said:
Quote:
But you can't deny it was an exciting game to watch. Memorable. The stadium was rocking, and the fans were rewarded. When was the last time a Mets game felt like that in the regular season???


Crowd was great last night. I was at opening day and they were good too, but last night was something else. If this team can string some wins together early on this season, the place will be jumping this summer.
I saw the game until Harvey exited, glad to see they won but it's  
Eric on Li : 4/15/2015 9:31 am : link
a gut shot to hear Wright got hurt too. Gotta shut him and Cuddyer down and just give them as long as they need to get healthy. I'm sure Campbell is the likely replacement at 3B since he got off to a hot start in AAA and there's now a gaping RH hole in the lineup. I'd also consider putting Murphy at 3B and bringing up Reynolds to play 2B. I'm guessing we'll see mostly Tejada/Cambell though, and maybe they also bring up Muno?

Not sure how I'd adjust the lineup in light of both injuries. I think I'd start by moving Lagares up to the 2 hole. You could move Granderson into the middle to be more of a run producer, but then you run into problems trying to break up all the lefty bats in the middle of the lineup. Granderson - Lagares - Duda - TdA - Murphy - Mayberry isn't terrible. Mayberry/Kirk platoon won't kill them.

I guess the good news is they weren't hitting much anyways and good teams find a way to win?
Crosby  
Giants2012 : 4/15/2015 10:09 am : link
First person, your "bias" opinion that Flores is nervous based on the crowd size doesn't justify why he pulled off of SS in 2012 in front of a small crowds in the minors. When you're in a hole, stop digging. Reaching for Knoblauch analogies is sad.
.  
arcarsenal : 4/15/2015 10:13 am : link
He didn't play SS in 2012 in the minors. And again, your post makes no sense. Shocker...

Anything else you want to be wrong about?
Hence Crosby  
Giants2012 : 4/15/2015 10:16 am : link
He played in 2011 and was pulled off in 2012. Keep digging that hole. Must have been a big crowd and not that he's not a natural SS like the scouts, etc have stated. You know more than scouts now right #87?

.  
arcarsenal : 4/15/2015 10:25 am : link
And yet, here he is... in the MAJORS playing SS every day for the Mets.

Seems like you're the one who thinks he knows more than the scouts. Not me.

And of course you're hung up on a random part of a post. It's about more than the crowd. This is the only position open enough for this kid to etch himself in as an every day player. We already have a 3rd baseman. We already have a 2nd baseman with a promising kid coming up right behind him.

If Flores can't hack it, he's basically SOL. It's a lot of pressure for a 23 year old kid. He has little assurance that he's sticking there for the long-haul.

There's a mental aspect to every sport. Even the simple minded should understand that.
Crosby  
Giants2012 : 4/15/2015 10:35 am : link
Not reading beyond a few lines as the i posted quotes from Scouts on multiple occassions. Stick with th theories about nerves etc. Enjoy your day here, i'm sure i can catch your daily #87 at any and all hours. NJ
.  
arcarsenal : 4/15/2015 10:51 am : link
Wow. You really, really cannot even put together a normal sentence. Not even an easy one.

Proofreading. It's your friend. Try it sometime.

And you're trying way too hard with the Crosby thing. It's neither funny or clever. Your humor is about as strong as your grammar. Douche chill inducing.
Arc, you are wasting your breath with this guy  
PhiPsi125 : 4/15/2015 10:57 am : link
It's not worth it...it's like playing checkers with a mental patient.

Stop feeding the troll and let him go back to his home under the bridge.
On an iphone  
Giants2012 : 4/15/2015 10:59 am : link
Tough to type yet i'm not pulling a Crosby. That's your gig

Let's Go Mets
RE: Arc, you are wasting your breath with this guy  
arcarsenal : 4/15/2015 11:04 am : link
In comment 12233909 PhiPsi125 said:
Quote:
It's not worth it...it's like playing checkers with a mental patient.

Stop feeding the troll and let him go back to his home under the bridge.


LOL, yeah.. you're right. I'm probably the only person who has even acknowledged him recently so he's loving the attention.

Time to let him crawl back into his basement.
That Crosby joke  
Shecky : 4/15/2015 11:11 am : link
Wasn't funny the first few times. But I have to admit each post that I read it I laugh harder and harder. Not at the joke of course, but...
Wright goes down so suggest moving Flores (natural 3rd basemen" scouts  
Giants2012 : 4/15/2015 11:12 am : link
and that's enough to accelerate Crosby's tailspin.

Got it - agree with #87 or be labeled a troll.

RE: That Crosby joke  
arcarsenal : 4/15/2015 11:16 am : link
In comment 12233953 Shecky said:
Quote:
Wasn't funny the first few times. But I have to admit each post that I read it I laugh harder and harder. Not at the joke of course, but...


Have to appreciate the effort at least. No matter how unfunny it is, the guy is just going to go down swinging with it no matter what it takes. LOL...
I'm too jet lagged  
feelflows : 4/15/2015 11:24 am : link
To figure out what you yoddels are cranking about, but didn't Steve Sax and Macky Sasser forget how to throw?

I was out of the country this week, is a Mets player having throwing issues? Flores? Wright had a bad time throwing at one point. Only on hard hit balls that he had time to think
.  
arcarsenal : 4/15/2015 11:33 am : link
feels.. the point I was trying to make, which (as usual) went over the village idiots head, was that despite some of the throwing issues Flores has had, he's shown in the past that he has a good arm and is pretty accurate.

I basically chalked up the bad throws to some nerves and the fact that the situation Flores is in is probably putting a lot of pressure on him to be perfect because he doesn't know how much rope he has.

But apparently that was the most absurd thing to ever say. How could anyone possibly be nervous in a situation like that?! The scouts say he can't play SS, so.. he can't play. We're just wasting our time.
oh shit  
feelflows : 4/15/2015 11:37 am : link
The last concern on Flores is his throwing, unless he goes mental. I think the range thing is blown out of proportion as well.

Him and Lagares need to start hitting, especially if wright is down for a while. I'm not worried about it, though. He just needs to get it going.
Best hitters on the team in terms of OPS+  
sshin05 : 4/15/2015 1:17 pm : link
Duda 146 <-- turning out to be the best hitter on the team
DW 128
Cuddy 126
Darnaud 114

Granderson and Duda tied for team lead with .406 OBP.

Murphy, Lagares, and Flores needs to pick it up.
The range will  
Metnut : 4/15/2015 1:19 pm : link
be an issue with Flores but I think his track record in the minors shows that he has a pretty solid arm that can play at either SS or 3B.

Bottom line is that Flores needs to hit. If he doesn't hit, there's going to be pressure on him. The Mets are committed to giving him ABs for now, so let's hope it works out well.
Flores arm  
Shecky : 4/15/2015 1:41 pm : link
It's strong enough to play SS, sure. But when was it decided he has a very accurate arm? Just my own personal opinion, but hasn't he always been a little short/low on his throws?
.  
arcarsenal : 4/15/2015 1:48 pm : link
Well, I said pretty accurate.. I didn't say very accurate.

Here's what I think it comes down to..

If Flores can be a guy who hits .270, pops 15 HR's with around 35 two baggers, does anyone think his defense would be too poor to keep him there? I don't.

The guy is never going to be a wiz but I am fairly certain he can be adequate in the field if he's a guy who hits.
someone said it during a recent broadcast re: Flores defense  
Eric on Li : 4/15/2015 2:03 pm : link
his biggest problem is his footwork. He has shown decent range and a strong arm, but where he has gotten into trouble is his footwork transitioning to the throw, which has led to inaccurate throws. That said I tend to agree with Arc, if he starts hitting and he can continue to show improvement he has enough ability to stick there.
RE: It looks  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2015 2:27 pm : link
In comment 12233684 Metnut said:
Quote:
like none of the injuries are serious, so nothing to panic about. The Nats are dealing with a lot of injuries to their line up (and Zimmerman and Strasburg looking like dogshit).

Hopefully Wright can avoid the DL and play vs Florida this weekend, but it looks like they are going to keep him out for 2 weeks as a precaution. It's nice to see Duda and D'Arnaud hitting.

I didn't think Niese looked too good in his first outing. Would love to see a strong outing from him against a bad Philly team. Win tonight, split the Gee/Colon games vs FLA, and win the DeGrom/Harvey games and we are off and running!


Where are you getting this from? Murphy was just out three weeks for something that looked WAY more minor then what happened to Wright. I'm betting Wright is out at least a month. Probably longer.
looks like just a mild strain for Wright....  
Italianju : 4/15/2015 2:29 pm : link
Probably the best news we could have got. Still going on the DL but with a mild strain you would hope he could be ready to go in 2 weeks.
Wright to 15 day, got a cortisone shot, & will resume bball activities  
Eric on Li : 4/15/2015 2:30 pm : link
in the next few days. Per @mets twitter.

New York Mets @Mets
He underwent an MRI at HSS and received a cortisone shot. He will rest for 2 days and will resume baseball actives as tolerated.

all things considered, sounds like best case scenario for both him and Cuddyer.
Getting a shot is significant.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/15/2015 2:31 pm : link
Sounds like they're just hoping for the best.
RE: Getting a shot is significant.  
schabadoo : 4/15/2015 2:43 pm : link
In comment 12234338 Ten Ton Hammer said:
Quote:
Sounds like they're just hoping for the best.


Is a shot significant? Cortisone is just for swelling normally.
A hamstring strain that's so bad it needs a cortisone shot  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/15/2015 2:46 pm : link
is something I have not heard happens a lot.

It's usually football players that take cortisone shots to play thru pain.
with the mets luck  
spike : 4/15/2015 2:48 pm : link
DW will probably need an amputation next week.


Call up Reynolds?
reynolds  
sshin05 : 4/15/2015 2:55 pm : link
not on the 40 man roster
.  
arcarsenal : 4/15/2015 3:05 pm : link
Campbell was called up.
Right, cortisone addresses pain and inflammation  
schabadoo : 4/15/2015 3:31 pm : link
Two temporary issues. Runners get them.
They needed to bring  
Rflairr : 4/15/2015 4:59 pm : link
up Campbell AND another INF. Enough with the short bench already.

I thought Meija being on restricted opened a spot on the 40?
Totally agree  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2015 5:10 pm : link
WTF? Cambell replaces Wright so we are still rolling with a 4 man bench? Even with Cuddyer banged up a little too? Yikes.
It just took Murphy  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2015 5:12 pm : link
3 weeks to come back from a pull that looked much lesser than Wrights. Murphy walked without a limp when it first happened. I suppose this is good news though. Maybe he'll be back early May sometime.
RE: It just took Murphy  
Metnut : 4/15/2015 5:18 pm : link
In comment 12234666 ZGiants98 said:
Quote:
3 weeks to come back from a pull that looked much lesser than Wrights. Murphy walked without a limp when it first happened. I suppose this is good news though. Maybe he'll be back early May sometime.


It makes sense that they would take an extra long time in spring. The way wright was talking yesterday, it sounded like he could play through this if he wants. I think we'll see him back in 2-3 weeks, closer to 2 hopefully. I'm usually really pessimistic when it comes to injuries but don't have a bad feeling with this one.
He was grabbing it and limping  
ZGiants98 : 4/15/2015 5:21 pm : link
off the field yesterday. I would be shocked if he makes it back faster than Murphy.
Cortisone shot's are used way too often today  
Giants2012 : 4/15/2015 5:24 pm : link
Wonder if they abuse Vitamin T like the NFL.
As of now  
Shecky : 4/15/2015 5:39 pm : link
I wouldn't be overly concerned about Wrights Hammy.
RE: He was grabbing it and limping  
schabadoo : 4/15/2015 5:40 pm : link
In comment 12234689 ZGiants98 said:
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off the field yesterday. I would be shocked if he makes it back faster than Murphy.


He jumped down the steps into the dugout.
I think Wright is making a concerted effort not to try being Superman.  
arcarsenal : 4/15/2015 6:28 pm : link
He said it himself before the season started that he has to understand where he's at as far as age goes and he has to learn to be more cautious and not push himself through injuries he knows he shouldn't.

That probably has a lot to do with why he yanked himself last night. I guarantee you he was standing on the bases thinking to himself "in the past, I've forced myself through these.. I need to think better of it now like I said I would"
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