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Deej : 4/15/2015 3:19 pm
Rangers looking to better their result from last year. Isles back in the playoff. Devils at home this time (and sadly, Ryanne Clowe may never suit up again according to reports). Around the league, Kane is back, and the Bruins GM is not.
Should be a great playoffs.

Metro and Central matchups look particularly awesome this year.
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who are my fellow Rangers fans  
B in ALB : 4/15/2015 5:32 pm : link
rooting for the Caps-Stix series?
Sink  
MookGiants : 4/15/2015 5:33 pm : link
hole.
RE: the TBL and NYI type teams  
Deej : 4/15/2015 5:33 pm : link
In comment 12234657 MetsAreBack said:
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even when we're hot... i dunno why... always seem to give us fits.


Puck possession. We're not a great puck possession team, but because we excel in so many other phases, we can easily overcome being out-possessed against most teams. However, when the other team is REALLY good at puck possession, things get hairier.

Isles and Lightening were #1 and #3 in the East in CF%, and the #2 team Pittburgh had a very uneven season.
My round one picks:  
Metnut : 4/15/2015 5:40 pm : link

Isles in 7 (Isles are better 5 on 5 team)
Rangers in 7 (Rangers advance but Crosby/Malkin make them sweat)
Bolts in 5 (most talented team in nhl)
Senators in 6 (upset special #1)

Blackhawks in 7 (Toews back helps CHI, this will be a great series)
Canucks in 4 (how did Calgary make the playoffs?)
Blues in 7 (pure tossup series)
Jets in 6 (upset special #2, records aside, Jets have played better hockey for a while, Ducks' one goal magic ends)


I think the Caps  
MetsAreBack : 4/15/2015 5:41 pm : link
too much circus and drama in an Islanders series, and we're in the Caps heads a little bit, i think. KO'd them twice in the past 3 seasons, and controlled H2H this year.

and as others have said, if you can hold Ovi and Backstrom in check... you should be OK.

But I've learned there really isnt any easy playoff series out there, especially this year. The '94 Islanders arent walking through that door, unfortunately.
RE: My round one picks:  
MetsAreBack : 4/15/2015 5:44 pm : link
In comment 12234713 Metnut said:
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Blackhawks in 7 (Toews back helps CHI, this will be a great series)
Canucks in 4 (how did Calgary make the playoffs?)
Blues in 7 (pure tossup series)
Jets in 6 (upset special #2, records aside, Jets have played better hockey for a while, Ducks' one goal magic ends)



It's really, really tough to sweep a playoff series, even if Calgary does supposedly suck. Throw in some goaltending issues in Vancouver - they might win in 5, but dont count Calgary completely out.

I do think people underrate Anaheim a bit. Dont get me wrong - they would not survive the Metro, certainly not the Central, and would lose in the 2nd round to Tampa... but if they can't get to the WCF this year with that bracket, with LA sitting at home... they should blow it all up and start over.
Fair enough  
Metnut : 4/15/2015 5:48 pm : link
on both. Figured I'd be bold and pick a sweep there but I'm really not all that bullish on Vancouver either honestly.

This is the Ducks best chance in a while with LAK out. I think the Jets home ice is going to be crazy and they've really played good hockey for a while. I see the series as close to a tossup and think the Jets can do it.

Yeah Jets are a solid team  
MetsAreBack : 4/15/2015 6:01 pm : link
but this home ice stuff.... its as good as your talent, no? Pretty much every team has a nice, loud home playoff crowd.
RE: who are my fellow Rangers fans  
hudson : 4/15/2015 6:55 pm : link
In comment 12234704 B in ALB said:
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rooting for the Caps-Stix series?

Iraq v Iran.
RE: RE: who are my fellow Rangers fans  
Deej : 4/15/2015 7:39 pm : link
In comment 12234803 hudson said:
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In comment 12234704 B in ALB said:


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rooting for the Caps-Stix series?


Iraq v Iran.

How about Pens-Rangers?
CRAZY HABS SENS GAME  
Deej : 4/15/2015 8:42 pm : link
Habs were up 2-1. Subban slashes, gets 5 and a gamer. OTT PPG, MTL SHG, and now OTT PPG all on the 5 minute penalty. 3-3 game now.
5 goals  
Deej : 4/15/2015 8:42 pm : link
in less than 5 minutes.
Yeah, this is a wild game.  
arcarsenal : 4/15/2015 8:43 pm : link
The playoffs have arrived.
The Styx are looking very good  
Greg from LI : 4/15/2015 8:49 pm : link
It would be 3-0 if not for a LOLak misplay of the puck. Chippy game.
the Predators  
MookGiants : 4/15/2015 9:13 pm : link
are kicking the Blackhawks ass. 3-0 late 1st
Crawford yanked for Scott Darling  
YAJ2112 : 4/15/2015 9:37 pm : link
to start the 2nd for Chicago
3-2  
JayBinQueens : 4/15/2015 9:49 pm : link
sharp did a good job staying with it
Blackhawks tie it on the PP  
YAJ2112 : 4/15/2015 10:01 pm : link
Toews.
and the Canadiens hang on  
YAJ2112 : 4/15/2015 10:01 pm : link
for victory.
#pekkarinne  
arcarsenal : 4/15/2015 10:01 pm : link
.
USA Network just put on  
Giants2012 : 4/15/2015 10:19 pm : link
Canucks vs Flames
Subban  
pjcas18 : 4/15/2015 10:29 pm : link
should have gotten a penalty, no doubt about it, I could even see a major, but ejected from the game was absolutely ridiculous.

RE: Subban  
MookGiants : 4/15/2015 10:31 pm : link
In comment 12235226 pjcas18 said:
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should have gotten a penalty, no doubt about it, I could even see a major, but ejected from the game was absolutely ridiculous.


Major penalty + injury = automatic ejection.
RE: RE: Subban  
pjcas18 : 4/15/2015 10:32 pm : link
In comment 12235229 MookGiants said:
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In comment 12235226 pjcas18 said:


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should have gotten a penalty, no doubt about it, I could even see a major, but ejected from the game was absolutely ridiculous.




Major penalty + injury = automatic ejection.


Stone returned to the ice immediately after leaving it.

What's the penalty for embellishment?

he doesn't  
MookGiants : 4/15/2015 10:38 pm : link
have to be out for the entire game for their to be an injury.

The referee isn't a doctor, he has to determine right on the spot if a guy is injured, and how was he supposed to know immediately that the guy would come back in a few minutes later?

If any type of injury occurs on a slash, it's an automatic major and ejection. The ref had no choice.

He embellished it but that was a vicious slash at the same time. You do that and you better be ready to hit the showers.
and didn't  
MookGiants : 4/15/2015 10:40 pm : link
Stone leave the game for good later on?

He clearly had some type of injury from that slash. It doesn't have to be an immediate game ending injury.

The way the rule is written the officials had no choice, they aren't doctors who can say for 100% certain a guy isnt injured.
It didn't seem like rhe ref didn't even saw the slash  
pjcas18 : 4/15/2015 10:42 pm : link
he saw Stone rolling around on the ice.

It's a judgment call to be a major penalty in the first place. I've seen two-handers like that go for minors.



I didn't see Stone  
pjcas18 : 4/15/2015 10:43 pm : link
leave again. I think he finished the game, in fact he instigated a fight.
All I know is that  
Deej : 4/15/2015 10:47 pm : link
Kreider is a reckless player.
So the Isles now need to drop four in a row  
BlueHurricane : 4/15/2015 10:53 pm : link
For Brett's prediction to come true. Not gonna happen. We are taking this series in 5. 6 tops.
Darling has made some unbelievable saves here.  
arcarsenal : 4/15/2015 10:57 pm : link
If the Hawks win this game I don't know how you tell him he has to sit Game 2.
Yeah  
YAJ2112 : 4/15/2015 11:00 pm : link
Stone was involved in the fight after the final whistle
RE: It didn't seem like rhe ref didn't even saw the slash  
MookGiants : 4/15/2015 11:04 pm : link
In comment 12235250 pjcas18 said:
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he saw Stone rolling around on the ice.

It's a judgment call to be a major penalty in the first place. I've seen two-handers like that go for minors.




Not a judgement call if the ref determines the player is hurt. It's automatic.
Here is an example  
pjcas18 : 4/15/2015 11:07 pm : link
that might be in your mind, this rule hasn't changed, Adam Graves two-hands Mario Lemieux in the 1992 playoffs, what did the refs call?

So you see, it's a judgment call.

Graves slashes Lemieux - ( New Window )
and we have our first OT of the playoffs  
YAJ2112 : 4/15/2015 11:08 pm : link
in Nashville
RE: Here is an example  
MookGiants : 4/15/2015 11:18 pm : link
In comment 12235276 pjcas18 said:
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that might be in your mind, this rule hasn't changed, Adam Graves two-hands Mario Lemieux in the 1992 playoffs, what did the refs call?

So you see, it's a judgment call. Graves slashes Lemieux - ( New Window )


They blew that call, clearly. Although I do not know how the rule was then.

But the rule as it is right now, if the player is injured, it's automatic.

They are capable of blowing calls and screwing up the rules, and they may have in that instance, but tonight they did not.

Wasn't Graves suspended for 4 games after that one, too? Which would signal that they blew the call on the ice.

Here is the rule.

61.3 Major Penalty - A major penalty, at the discretion of the Referee based on the severity of the contact, shall be imposed on a player who slashes an opponent. When injury occurs, a major penalty must be assessed under this rule

They obviously felt there was an injury. Once they make that call, there is nothing else to consider.
2nd part of rule  
MookGiants : 4/15/2015 11:19 pm : link
61.5 Game Misconduct Penalty – Whenever a major penalty is assessed for slashing, a game misconduct penalty must also be imposed.
I also  
MookGiants : 4/15/2015 11:21 pm : link
have no idea how you know that the rule is exactly as it was 23 years ago. Do you have a copy of the rule book from 1992?
A suspension  
pjcas18 : 4/15/2015 11:23 pm : link
might be absolutely warranted. I'd be ok with that. Let the league decide not real time.

It was a stupid play bu Subban, no excuses, I think the right call was a 2 min minor for slashing, and let the league review and decide on a suspension.

I could live with a 5 min major if they have a way to do that without the misconduct.

giving someone the gate because you think a player was injured is too hard to judge real time.

RE: I also  
pjcas18 : 4/15/2015 11:23 pm : link
In comment 12235288 MookGiants said:
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have no idea how you know that the rule is exactly as it was 23 years ago. Do you have a copy of the rule book from 1992?


If you listen to the video in the link the announcers said the Pens coach was pissed because it wasn't a 5 min major and a game misconduct.
RE: RE: I also  
MookGiants : 4/15/2015 11:27 pm : link
In comment 12235292 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 12235288 MookGiants said:


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have no idea how you know that the rule is exactly as it was 23 years ago. Do you have a copy of the rule book from 1992?



If you listen to the video in the link the announcers said the Pens coach was pissed because it wasn't a 5 min major and a game misconduct.


That doesn't mean that it had to be automatic like it is today. I honestly have no idea what the rule exactly stated then, that video doesn't make it clear either. Obviously it should have been more than a 2 minute minor.
Reading articles  
MookGiants : 4/15/2015 11:29 pm : link
about the suspension I am not seeing anything about the referees blowing the rule.

If the rule in 1992 read like it does now, then the referee in 1992 simply had no idea what the rule was, because it was clear that Lemieux was injured.

That leads me to believe the rule wasn't what it is now. I guess it's possible the referee just had no idea what the rule book said, but I think that's very unlikely. And nothing in the 3 articles ive found so far have mentioned it.
anyways  
MookGiants : 4/15/2015 11:35 pm : link
this blackhawks game is fuckin awesome.
Amazing game in Nashville  
Giants2012 : 4/15/2015 11:38 pm : link
Tough first round series.
RE: anyways  
pjcas18 : 4/15/2015 11:40 pm : link
In comment 12235301 MookGiants said:
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this blackhawks game is fuckin awesome.

it's awesome, love playoff hockey.
Not so sure  
MookGiants : 4/15/2015 11:51 pm : link
about that one, especially in overtime. At the very least they got the wrong guy
I think they should have let it  
pjcas18 : 4/15/2015 11:52 pm : link
go, especially after letting the questionable play on Nashville go (and I agreed with that no call)
that was a game  
MookGiants : 4/16/2015 12:25 am : link
that Nashville absolutely could not lose, especially with a 3-0 lead.

Brutal. Great game to watch though. Keith ends it.
Calgary  
MookGiants : 4/16/2015 12:27 am : link
and Vancouver tied at 1 with 5 to go on USA Network.
wow.... that's gotta be devastating for Nashville  
Greg from LI : 4/16/2015 12:28 am : link
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