"Only when they had secured a future, did they allow themselves to look back in the past. Only when they had built a time of hope, did they permit themselves to remember the days of despair. They built a future in their old new home, the state of Israel. And under the shadows of their greatest tragedy, Jews were able to build a country that leads the world in medicine, agriculture, and technology. Why? Because they looked forward."-- George Deek. George Deek speech in Oslo - ( New Window )
a special on the freeing of Beslin and Dacau by the Brits and Americans, unreal. My wife couldn't stand to wtach it and I must say it was pretty damn ugly.
I cannot see how anyone with a sane mind cany deny this ever happening.
And while I hope to hell that these types of barbarism are only in our history, I'm afraid that they will never be.
a special on the freeing of Beslin and Dacau by the Brits and Americans, unreal. My wife couldn't stand to wtach it and I must say it was pretty damn ugly.
I cannot see how anyone with a sane mind cany deny this ever happening.
And while I hope to hell that these types of barbarism are only in our history, I'm afraid that they will never be.
Do you hear what the Turks just replied in response to the Pope's acknowledgement of the Armenian genocide? You are spot on. Never forget.
My mother-in-law was a hidden child and lost her parents. We lost her 5 years ago but we have the interview that she did with Steven Spielberg's Shoah Foundation. How anyone can deny this atrocity is beyond me.
Very personal to me. Just think where the world would be if all those doctors,scientists, inventors, brilliant minds did not get wiped out. Think about the children they might of produced and tell me if you think that mankind wouldn't be more advanced today?
I have my mom's Spielberg Foundation video that tells a story that makes me proud and in awe of an amazing story of survival. God bless her she is 88 lives on her own and is sharp as a tack. Fuck you Hitler
But I'll do so again because it's such a powerful image that it still brings tears to my eyes.
Wow that's a moving image, thanks for posting.
Spent a day at Auschwitz about 10 years ago. One of the most emotional days of my life. My family and I couldn't really talk much that night, we were all just trying to process what we'd seen
I know anyone who's been there understands. Love to our brothers and sisters of the Hebrew faith.
executed by the SS around 1941 when they would enter towns, gather up the Jewish population, march them to the edge of town, make them dig a mass grave, and shoot them all in the head.
When i first started practice, I had a patient who somehow escaped one of these pogroms.She said she hid in the woods and witnessed what happened. She described a scene that i can never forget. She said after the SS shot dozens of victims, they would cover them with dirt in a shallow grave.She said she saw that earth moving. Many of course were buried still alive.
my wife is a social worker and works for Jewish Family and Children Services, a subsidiary of the United Way. She used to do a lot of work with disabled children of Holocaust survivors.
Do you hear what the Turks just replied in response to the Pope's acknowledgement of the Armenian genocide? You are spot on. Never forget.
Yesterday, the European Parliament just adopted the Armenian Genocide centennial resolution and urged Turkey to recognize the Armenian Genocide of 1915. It will be interesting to see Turkey's response.
A series on WWI that actually had a segment on the Armenian Genocide. Apparently the Armenians were a convenient scapegoat for the Turks after a FUBAR attempt to invade southern Russia left most of the invading force KIA. Pretty graphic. Put it this way, ISIS didn't invent beheading.
I linked a Google Image search on Armenian Genocide pictures below. Extremely barbaric treatment by the Ottoman Turks against the christian members of their empire which included the Armenians, Greeks, Assyrians and other minority christian nationalities.
anger could get any higher at the fact that there are people that continue to deny this ever happened. But your take on the minds and advancements that we as a people have yet to attain because of what was lost was incredibly eye opening. I don't think I have ever heard anyone put it quite like that yet it is so accurate in it's obvious simplicity. Thank you for putting it that way and forgive me for stealing it and using it on all of the social media sites available to me.
There are growing numbers of people who hate the Judeo and Christian belief system and peoples.
The world needs to absorb the story and the history of the genocides,and if we are truly 'advanced', then we have to start respecting human life, and realize ISIS cares only about their cause, and an advanced peoples would not allow such a targeting to go unanswered in the world community.
Let us never forget, ever.
standing up when others attempt to demonize all members of a certain religion, ethnicity, nationality or creed by generalizing from the most pathological of their members.
The gentiles who were able to make that distinction were the ones who put their own lives on the line to save as many Jews as they possibly could: the Oskar Shindlers, Irena Sendlers, and Raoul Wallenbergs.
Never forget that when the ISIS sympathizers were killing Jews in that grocery store in Paris, it was a Muslim, who led as many Jews as possible to safety, by hiding them elsewhere in the store.
who I lost in January was part of the liberating American troops at Dachau. He never talked much about it. The remaining living witnesses are leaving us.
I have my mom's Spielberg Foundation video that tells a story that makes me proud and in awe of an amazing story of survival. God bless her she is 88 lives on her own and is sharp as a tack. Fuck you Hitler
Just a few short weeks ago I told the same thing to my Wife's 94 year old Grandmother that I tell her every Passover (she escaped Germany right after Crystal Nacht, many of her aunts/uncles did not) the biggest revenge she gets on Hitler every Pesach is watching her great Grandchildren(my kids) do the 4 questions at the Seder. Always brings a smile and a tear to her eyes. There is no revenge sweeter than that...
Thank you for your comments. Both are so right because of our mothers, grandmothers and mother-in-laws some wonderful lives have been created.
My mother in law became one of those amazing people who always looked on the bright side of life.
When she met my family for the first time it was a larger Thanksgiving reunion. At the end of the day and for days to come,my brothers, sisters, nieces and nephews all felt she was on3 of their best friends.
She and your relatives show to me that Hitler and fascism lost
in Washington Heights. They interviewed my wife's great grandmother a lot in the piece. The premise was there were a bunch of Jews in this cluster that came from the same small town on the German-Polish border. The 2nd part of the piece was going back to that town and interviewing the older non-Jewish residents of the town. Their answers were very eerie. It was if the Jews had all just suddenly disappeared one day and that was it there was no mention of it again. They were so matter of fact about it. I guess that's the way they compartmentalized it mentally. They were like "we had no problem with the Jews".
There were Righteous Gentiles who I hold a warm spot in
my heart for. They risked their lives to save a lot of people. There were also from the stories my parents fellow survivors would tell about Polish pedants that I have an equal bitterness towards
That's what my grandparents told me. Even worse than the Nazis were the collaborators, because you could never really know. The Germans were easier to manage around because they wore uniforms and you saw them coming a mile away.
there were those that helped people like my mom, but there those who as that used to do business and coexist with Polish Jews that turned on them
turned them in and killed them
That's what my grandparents told me. Even worse than the Nazis were the collaborators, because you could never really know. The Germans were easier to manage around because they wore uniforms and you saw them coming a mile away.
And there certainly was no shortage of collaborators in Ukraine between the Hiwis and those who went all out and served in the Galician Waffen-SS division.
over the centuries, we were tolerated for periods of times,the persecution and anti semittism was dormant but it was only a lull that never extended for a long period of time. When things got hard we were a convenient target by a lot of countries. You would think things would have changed but it hasn't. Europe is getting scary anti Semitic and if you think I'm being paranoid, you have your eyes closed
That obviously happened a lot. Poland still hasn't recovered from losing pretty much its entire Jewish population. They were an integral part of society for many hundreds of years.
I would like the Polish government to formally reach out to Jews to return to Poland, though I have no idea how you execute something like that. Until Jewish people come back, the country hasn't been made whole, IMO.
That's what my grandparents told me. Even worse than the Nazis were the collaborators, because you could never really know. The Germans were easier to manage around because they wore uniforms and you saw them coming a mile away.
And there certainly was no shortage of collaborators in Ukraine between the Hiwis and those who went all out and served in the Galician Waffen-SS division.
My sister's godfather (totally unrelated to my grandparent) served in the SS. The Germans were running low on men on the Eastern Front so they gave him a uniform and a gun and told him to shoot some Russians, or they'd shoot him on the spot. He took a bullet to the shoulder but survived.
But your point is accurate. Ukrainians hated Stalin and thought life would be better under Hitler. Still a shitty excuse for killing your neighbors.
on the Lithuanian partisan movement from 1947-1953. Hitler & Stalin took turns trying to enslave a free people. Though the partisan movement didn't liberate Lithuania, they set the groundwork and inspiration to defeat the Soviets in 1990. Better to die a young free man than to live to be be an old man under an invader
That's what my grandparents told me. Even worse than the Nazis were the collaborators, because you could never really know. The Germans were easier to manage around because they wore uniforms and you saw them coming a mile away.
And there certainly was no shortage of collaborators in Ukraine between the Hiwis and those who went all out and served in the Galician Waffen-SS division.
It wasn't just Ukrainian Hiwis or the Galizien SS division, there was the entire Ukrainian Insurgent Army--the military wing of Bandera's Organization of Ukrainian Nationalist-- ethnically cleansed as many as 80,000 ethnic Poles in the Polish region of Volhynia from 1943-1944. Several people that were close to my family who were fighting with the Polish Home Army fought against the UPA at the same time fighting the Nazis. They told of horrible stories Poles being burnt alive in churches, babies with their skulls bashed in with a rifle butt, and others.
I cannot see how anyone with a sane mind cany deny this ever happening.
And while I hope to hell that these types of barbarism are only in our history, I'm afraid that they will never be.
I cannot see how anyone with a sane mind cany deny this ever happening.
And while I hope to hell that these types of barbarism are only in our history, I'm afraid that they will never be.
Do you hear what the Turks just replied in response to the Pope's acknowledgement of the Armenian genocide? You are spot on. Never forget.
Wow that's a moving image, thanks for posting.
Spent a day at Auschwitz about 10 years ago. One of the most emotional days of my life. My family and I couldn't really talk much that night, we were all just trying to process what we'd seen
I know anyone who's been there understands. Love to our brothers and sisters of the Hebrew faith.
When i first started practice, I had a patient who somehow escaped one of these pogroms.She said she hid in the woods and witnessed what happened. She described a scene that i can never forget. She said after the SS shot dozens of victims, they would cover them with dirt in a shallow grave.She said she saw that earth moving. Many of course were buried still alive.
Do you hear what the Turks just replied in response to the Pope's acknowledgement of the Armenian genocide? You are spot on. Never forget.
Yesterday, the European Parliament just adopted the Armenian Genocide centennial resolution and urged Turkey to recognize the Armenian Genocide of 1915. It will be interesting to see Turkey's response.
NSFW - FYI Gruesome Pictures - ( New Window )
The world needs to absorb the story and the history of the genocides,and if we are truly 'advanced', then we have to start respecting human life, and realize ISIS cares only about their cause, and an advanced peoples would not allow such a targeting to go unanswered in the world community.
Let us never forget, ever.
The gentiles who were able to make that distinction were the ones who put their own lives on the line to save as many Jews as they possibly could: the Oskar Shindlers, Irena Sendlers, and Raoul Wallenbergs.
Never forget that when the ISIS sympathizers were killing Jews in that grocery store in Paris, it was a Muslim, who led as many Jews as possible to safety, by hiding them elsewhere in the store.
Wow ... that is a very powerful image.
Just a few short weeks ago I told the same thing to my Wife's 94 year old Grandmother that I tell her every Passover (she escaped Germany right after Crystal Nacht, many of her aunts/uncles did not) the biggest revenge she gets on Hitler every Pesach is watching her great Grandchildren(my kids) do the 4 questions at the Seder. Always brings a smile and a tear to her eyes. There is no revenge sweeter than that...
My mother in law became one of those amazing people who always looked on the bright side of life.
When she met my family for the first time it was a larger Thanksgiving reunion. At the end of the day and for days to come,my brothers, sisters, nieces and nephews all felt she was on3 of their best friends.
She and your relatives show to me that Hitler and fascism lost
turned them in and killed them
And there certainly was no shortage of collaborators in Ukraine between the Hiwis and those who went all out and served in the Galician Waffen-SS division.
I would like the Polish government to formally reach out to Jews to return to Poland, though I have no idea how you execute something like that. Until Jewish people come back, the country hasn't been made whole, IMO.
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That's what my grandparents told me. Even worse than the Nazis were the collaborators, because you could never really know. The Germans were easier to manage around because they wore uniforms and you saw them coming a mile away.
And there certainly was no shortage of collaborators in Ukraine between the Hiwis and those who went all out and served in the Galician Waffen-SS division.
My sister's godfather (totally unrelated to my grandparent) served in the SS. The Germans were running low on men on the Eastern Front so they gave him a uniform and a gun and told him to shoot some Russians, or they'd shoot him on the spot. He took a bullet to the shoulder but survived.
But your point is accurate. Ukrainians hated Stalin and thought life would be better under Hitler. Still a shitty excuse for killing your neighbors.
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That's what my grandparents told me. Even worse than the Nazis were the collaborators, because you could never really know. The Germans were easier to manage around because they wore uniforms and you saw them coming a mile away.
And there certainly was no shortage of collaborators in Ukraine between the Hiwis and those who went all out and served in the Galician Waffen-SS division.
It wasn't just Ukrainian Hiwis or the Galizien SS division, there was the entire Ukrainian Insurgent Army--the military wing of Bandera's Organization of Ukrainian Nationalist-- ethnically cleansed as many as 80,000 ethnic Poles in the Polish region of Volhynia from 1943-1944. Several people that were close to my family who were fighting with the Polish Home Army fought against the UPA at the same time fighting the Nazis. They told of horrible stories Poles being burnt alive in churches, babies with their skulls bashed in with a rifle butt, and others.