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NFT: Game 1: Pittsburgh Penguins @ New York Rangers Game Thread

BrettNYG10 : 4/16/2015 7:39 am
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Don't forget the cheap shots and slew footing!  
Greg from LI : 4/17/2015 9:06 am : link
RE: .  
MetsAreBack : 4/17/2015 9:08 am : link
In comment 12237315 arcarsenal said:
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It was the most relaxed I've been with a 1 goal lead late in a playoff game in some time.. if ever, really.



Nothing compares to Game 6 ECF last year. I'm not sure the Habs spent more than 2 minutes the entire 3rd period in our zone that night. It was surreal.
This Pens team just looks mentally soft.  
arcarsenal : 4/17/2015 9:09 am : link
I don't see them being able to handle adversity. As long as we just keep coming out of the gates fast, they'll fold pretty quickly.

If we're going to get out of a series in 4-5 games for once, this is it.
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arcarsenal : 4/17/2015 9:10 am : link
In comment 12237364 MetsAreBack said:
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In comment 12237315 arcarsenal said:


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It was the most relaxed I've been with a 1 goal lead late in a playoff game in some time.. if ever, really.




Nothing compares to Game 6 ECF last year. I'm not sure the Habs spent more than 2 minutes the entire 3rd period in our zone that night. It was surreal.


Yeah, that was the most visibly gassed I've seen a team on the ice in a long time. They were just wiped out. No one could skate.
My 3 Concerns Yesterday were...  
mvftw : 4/17/2015 9:15 am : link
Power Play , FaceOffs, & Nash...
I give the group a C-
Must do Better to get a Ring...
Nash?  
Greg from LI : 4/17/2015 9:21 am : link
The guy who made the first goal happen with a big slapper that Fleury couldn't handle?
Oh...  
mvftw : 4/17/2015 9:26 am : link
So putting 1 shot on goal he gets an A...
Nash had 4 SOG.  
BrettNYG10 : 4/17/2015 9:26 am : link
He looked good.
If you're concerned about Nash based off last night  
Greg from LI : 4/17/2015 9:29 am : link
Then I don't know what else to say.
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arcarsenal : 4/17/2015 9:44 am : link
This poster has a target on Nash for whatever reason. He played well last night.
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arcarsenal : 4/17/2015 9:46 am : link
Miller really impressed me, BTW. That kid hits like a truck and he's got some legitimate skill.
indeed. Miller looked great  
Greg from LI : 4/17/2015 9:48 am : link
Looks like he can be a bigger version of Callahan.

Does that mean Brett's going to hate him, too?
I thought Nash  
pjcas18 : 4/17/2015 9:52 am : link
played well, McDonagh had a great game, and as an objective observer I'd say the Rangers got a few breaks on Pens penalties and no-calls against the Rangers.

One Rangers defenseman tackled a Penguins player going around the net in the 3rd period, it was borderline, but based on what they called on the Penguins it could have easily been called.

Good game, great playoff intensity.
RE: indeed. Miller looked great  
BrettNYG10 : 4/17/2015 9:53 am : link
In comment 12237440 Greg from LI said:
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Looks like he can be a bigger version of Callahan.

Does that mean Brett's going to hate him, too?


No, Miller has skill and doesn't whine like a bitch. Love TRJT.

Speaking of which, I wish Brassard would shut the fuck up.
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BrettNYG10 : 4/17/2015 9:54 am : link
I thought the Rangers got away with one or two and that the Comeau call was weak.

Why is Comeau a King slayer, btw?
Good win last night gents!!  
mfsd : 4/17/2015 9:57 am : link
couldn't get the 3rd goal to put it away, but our boys are no strangers to playing a tight one-goal game

As posted yesterday, I was the lucky recipient of a last minute ticket, sat up behind the goal the Penguins shot at in the 3rd.

I'm no hockey expert, but I make 2-3 games a year, seeing hockey live is such a different experience than seeing it on TV. You could really see how the Rangers switched to a more defensive posture in the 3rd, everyone was very disciplined and I don't think we gave up a single odd man rush

The Penguins were trying to slip a guy deep to get open for a breakaway pass several times, and the Rangers always had a guy back marking him to make sure nothing got through

Looked like the kind of game a purist would love, like a 2-1 pitchers duel in baseball.

Oh, and someone ask Rick Tochett how their plan to take runs at our big players worked out for them...fuckin bitches

On to game 2, Let's Go Rangers
thought all the Pens calls were legit, but we did get away with a few  
Greg from LI : 4/17/2015 10:00 am : link
In the immortal word of Steve Maruicci, "bummer". Of all franchises, that one gets no sympathy from me when it comes to lousy calls.

What did Brass say, Brett? And cmon - even if you didn't like him, Callahan has skill.
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BrettNYG10 : 4/17/2015 10:07 am : link
Greg, Brassard's general whining to the refs - Sam Rosen commented on it last night when he was basically doing it for an entire shift apparently. He does it quite often (and is also a bit of a diver).

And you're right on Callahan - he had some skill. Not $6M worth of skill, though.
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arcarsenal : 4/17/2015 10:09 am : link
Brassard is definitely a bit of a whiner. Big fan of his game otherwise, but.. yeah.
You're right, Brass does more than his share of crying  
Greg from LI : 4/17/2015 10:10 am : link
And I absolutely wanted to trade Callahan rather than pay him. Still loved the way he played, though, even though he could be a baby.
RE: My 3 Concerns Yesterday were...  
Giants2012 : 4/17/2015 10:22 am : link
In comment 12237380 mvftw said:
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Power Play , *****FaceOffs*****, & Nash...
I give the group a C-
Must do Better to get a Ring...


Great observation on faceoffs. Crosby was awesome winning 15 of 20 faceoffs and appeared to win every one in his end.

Lost my voice, great energy in the Garden and a lot of missed penalty calls behind the play. A lot of Pens were trying to agitate and/or slow down Rangers trying to get back on defense. IMO, it was counter productive as the Pens didn't join the offense.
Which just goes to show how minor the importance of faceoffs is  
Greg from LI : 4/17/2015 10:27 am : link
Didn't help the Penguins. The Caps destroyed the Islanders in the faceoff circle, and it meant nothing.
How minor? So puck posession is minor in your own end  
Giants2012 : 4/17/2015 10:28 am : link
Really?
The Nash expectations and constant temp taking of his game  
djm : 4/17/2015 10:55 am : link
have become Eliesque...

The guy can't fart without fans analyzing his offensive output. Nash is doing fine. His line is playing good hockey typically winning the + - battle. That's all that matters. The goals will come. I hear fans proclaim over and over the Rangers can't win the cup without NAsh scoring a bunch of goals. They came within 3 games last year and Nash didn't score a bunch of goals. And those 3 were close games that saw so many close calls.

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arcarsenal : 4/17/2015 11:02 am : link
If he forces that 3rd period turnover a little earlier in his shift, he probably gets further out ahead, generates a higher quality shot and maybe even scores. He just didn't have enough juice.

What's good about this Ranger team is that they're not going to be completely reliant on Nash for scoring output like they were 2 years ago especially. We can get goals from other places. I think he's going to have a really good spring but even if the goal scoring is still less than what we expect, we should be ok.
Not to be a downer after a playoff win,  
schabadoo : 4/17/2015 11:05 am : link
But how does the friends and family lounge only have Bud, Bud Lite and Coors Lite? Even for free it was disappointing.
to satiate the curious...  
Greg from LI : 4/17/2015 11:13 am : link
Crosby was indeed matched primarily against the Hagelin-Hayes-MSL line. At even strength, he faced Hagelin for 8:08, Hayes for 6:23 and MSL for 5:55.
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Hayes sucked-B  
BrettNYG10 : 4/17/2015 11:21 am : link
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RE: RE: I'd be curious to see  
Kyle in NY : 4/17/2015 11:50 am : link
In comment 12237351 BrettNYG10 said:
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which of our lines was matched up most often with Crosby. He was smothered all night.



Hayes was on him quite a bit, IIRC.


That was what I thought. He's a stud. At one point he made a blind backhand pass from the half boards to the other side of the ice that went through like three defenders to create a scoring chance. I think he'll continue to break out in these playoffs.
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arcarsenal : 4/17/2015 12:05 pm : link
He's almost Jagr-esque in the way he can dominate control of the puck without being pushed off it. He looks like a man amongst boys at times. There was a sequence last night where he had about 3 Penguin players on his back and still carried the puck through all of them.
Girardi with no extra protection at practice,  
Mad Mike : 4/17/2015 12:21 pm : link
but Klein isn't skating (at least not yet).
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arcarsenal : 4/17/2015 12:22 pm : link
Say what you will about Girardi but that man is a tough SOB.
A Finals storyline  
MetsAreBack : 4/17/2015 12:24 pm : link
of Rangers - BlackHawks would be outstanding. Hayes against the team that basically cut him in the preseason, and our replacement for Brad Richards, who now plays for the Hawks.

Make it happen.

On a side note - the fact that Chicago is still considered maybe the West favorite is incredible considering what a bad offseason they had (Leddy, Hayes), not to mention a pretty (apparently) lousy deadline deal for Vermette considering they healthy scratch him these days.

Goes to show how well their core - Kane, Toews, Keith - play this time of year.
he doesn't have Jagr's skills  
Greg from LI : 4/17/2015 12:26 pm : link
But he does have his ability to control the puck despite being hammered by defenders.

I wouldn't say Chicago "basically cut" Hayes. He didn't want to play for them because he didn't think he'd have the opportunity to crack their lineup.
and they could have accomodated him...  
MetsAreBack : 4/17/2015 12:30 pm : link
but chose not to. Instead they signed Brad Richards.

Say what you want about Sather (most of us have warmed up to him, but still...) -- he would never lose an asset like Hayes for absolutely nothing in an offseason.

A trade for a vet or a pick, would make room on the roster, whatever. It would never happen.
OK, I see your point about losing him for nothing  
Greg from LI : 4/17/2015 12:31 pm : link
fair enough
something that needs to change  
Greg from LI : 4/17/2015 1:27 pm : link
Since 2012, the Rangers have taken a 1-0 lead in a series six times. Five of those six times, they dropped game 2.
I was thinking about that too  
MetsAreBack : 4/17/2015 3:37 pm : link
I think we are 1-8 in Game 2's since 2011.

2011: Lost at Washington (fell behind 0-2)
2012: Lost vs Ottawa (tied 1-1), Lost vs Washington (tied 1-1), Lost vs New Jersey (tied 1-1)
2013: Lost at Boston (fell behind 0-2)
2014: Lost vs Philly (tied 1-1), Lost at Pittsburgh (tied 1-1), WIN at Montreal (up 2-0), Lost at LA (fell behind 0-2)


So its game 2 AND the ability to go up by two games in a series. I think the Montreal series last year was the first time in 12 or so tries (I recall it was a NHL record) of being up a game in a series where we actually won.


In a way, winning a tight game 2-1 last night where we played ok, but all know we can play better... is probably better than blowing them out 5-1. Keeps the team on its toes.

We've had blowout wins in recent years (Ottawa 2011, Philly last year), only to blow the following game (at home)
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BrettNYG10 : 4/17/2015 3:43 pm : link
I totally forgot the NHL changed the lottery format this year so every team has a shot at the first pick.

No doubt in my mind LA or Boston wins.
even playoff teams?  
MetsAreBack : 4/17/2015 3:50 pm : link
That's ridiculous. Its only for the top pick at least right? I thought i read Buffalo is guaranteed a top 2 pick.


In other news... what a shocker! Even though its the playoffs, the Islanders may get a backup goalie yet again!!


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Capitals promote goaltender Philipp Grubauer

Philipp Grubauer has been called up by the Washington Capitals.
Braden Holtby is apparently feeling under the weather, so Grubauer joined the Capitals as a precautionary measure. It's still possible that Holtby will play and if it becomes apparent that that's the case then Grubauer will likely be returned to the minors so that he can help AHL Hershey as it finishes off its regular season schedule this weekend.

Playoff  
Metnut : 4/17/2015 3:56 pm : link
teams can't win the top pick but any team in the lottery can. It used to be you could only move up a max of 5 spots if you won (see NJD winning the lottery and going from #9 to #4 and taking Larson, if they had won the lottery this year, they would've gotten #1 overall).
ok, I've never paid attention  
MetsAreBack : 4/17/2015 3:57 pm : link
are the odds minimal for LA and Boston at least ? (And Philly and CBJ while we're at it please?)

Hoping one of Arizona or Edmonton wins please.
1% for Bruins  
Metnut : 4/17/2015 4:01 pm : link
2% for Kings and 6% for Blue Jackets (6.5% for Philly and 7.5% for NJD FWIW).

Columbus would be the worst team to win it IMO. Would be a disaster for the other Metro teams. Wouldn't be great if Philly or NJD won either.
I think i agree with that assessment, metnut  
MetsAreBack : 4/17/2015 4:05 pm : link
if not for injuries, CBJ would have been a really solid playoff team this year

Flyers would still have a lot of holes - man would their fortunes be a lot different if Nashville hadn't matched that Weber offer.
oh dear god in heaven, keep McDavid away from Philly and NJ  
Greg from LI : 4/17/2015 4:09 pm : link
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BrettNYG10 : 4/17/2015 4:09 pm : link
Ah, sorry MAB - meant non-playoff teams.
THN - ( New Window )
Buffalo at worst gets the 2nd pick  
Giants2012 : 4/17/2015 4:42 pm : link
Lottery rules indicate a team can move up many spots yet only drop one spot.

I guess it's a lottery for the #1 pick followed by #3 as Buffalo can only drop one spot.
RE: oh dear god in heaven, keep McDavid away from Philly and NJ  
pjcas18 : 4/17/2015 5:13 pm : link
In comment 12238253 Greg from LI said:
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Eichel and McDavid are both game changers IMO, I don't want to see either on a rival of mine.

But I think Auston Matthews could be better than both in next year's draft if he continues on the same trajectory.

In this draft if I miss out on Eichel and McDavid I'd hope Noah Hanifin falls to me.

Only draft event in any sport I ever attended was the NHL Draft in 1994 at the Hartford Civic Center. It was boring as hell, but I got my picture with the Stanley Cup.




RE Nash ... while I would be disappointed if Nash's scoring  
baadbill : 4/17/2015 7:18 pm : link
disappeared in the playoffs, esp after the great regular season he had ... I just don't think this team is as dependent upon Nash as in the past ... in fact, right now I think the Stepan line has been the top line over the last 10 games or so ... and the Hayes line has been #2. And the great thing is that even when the Nash line isn't scoring it is contributing in other ways - this season Nash has contributed in every aspect of the game for the Rangers. The bottom line is that this team has four solid lines and when Klein gets back, a great defense. I'm really pumped.
RE: RE: indeed. Miller looked great  
hudson : 4/17/2015 7:58 pm : link
In comment 12237448 BrettNYG10 said:
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In comment 12237440 Greg from LI said:


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Looks like he can be a bigger version of Callahan.

Does that mean Brett's going to hate him, too?



No, Miller has skill and doesn't whine like a bitch. Love TRJT.

Speaking of which, I wish Brassard would shut the fuck up.

Miller is a Yinzer.
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