Bullpen melted yesterday (Carpenter and Wilson).
After 2 weeks we are 3-6 we have lost all 3 3-game series we have played. We are in the bottom third of the league. Only Minnesota and Milwaukee are worse with 2 wins (several at 3 wins)
We do not have a .300 hitter on the roster. We are terrible at hitting with runners in scoring position. 2 players (Ellsbury and Arod are hitting .286) there are 59 players in MLB that have played in 7 or more games and are hitting over .300.
One of the hitting coaches said he thinks that Beltran reason for not hitting is he is not used to hitting badly? WTF is that? Your getting 12 million to hit the damn ball! Get your head right!
Come on guys start hitting!!!! Start winning!!!!
Thats why they should move Refsnyder back to the OF and screw the 2B experiment. The heck with the power numbers. This 2B experiment will ruin the kid.He is the type of hitter they need.Who knows maybe he will develope some.Once an OF goes down bring him up and give him a shot as a platoon with Chris Young or whoever is still healthy. It would work better if Beltran was the man out.
Finally, the Steinbrenner kids are bad enogh but Randy Levine is a major problem with too much say in baseball operations. Maybe some empty seats in July with wake these kids up.
It's early but it's been a scary start that many of us feared. Can't even see an end in sight through all these trees....welcome...to the wilderness.
Thats why they should move Refsnyder back to the OF and screw the 2B experiment. The heck with the power numbers. This 2B experiment will ruin the kid.He is the type of hitter they need.Who knows maybe he will develope some.Once an OF goes down bring him up and give him a shot as a platoon with Chris Young or whoever is still healthy. It would work better if Beltran was the man out.
Finally, the Steinbrenner kids are bad enogh but Randy Levine is a major problem with too much say in baseball operations. Maybe some empty seats in July with wake these kids up.
Ref is neither a power prospect nor a speed prospect. If you put him in the OF he's not going to be Mookie Betts. If he can fake the funk at 2B he is a much, much better prospect than he is manning RF.
As for the shortstop position. Drew is a proven major league shortstop. And Prado is a natural second baseman. Yeah Drew hasn't hit like he did in Boston but I think the Yankees could have had a better result with Drew at short and Prado at second.
Now you have two guys up the middle who aren't hitting for shit. Having said that I don't think Gregorious is going to be hitting grand slams anytime soon. And for those who,said their pitching wasn't the problem last year I would agree. And Shane Greene was a big part of that. I can remember watching them play the Orioles last year and hall of famer and Oriole color commentator Jim Palmer salivating over the kid and his ability.
So to make up for losing him to get Didi Gregorious they go and get Evaldi who did not fair well with the Marlins and pitched to a 4 plus era in the national league. Yeah he throws 98 but it was widely acknowledged he gives up a lot of hits and his strike out numbers were not very good. Does Cashman know what the fuck he is doing?
Let's give Didi and Eovaldi more than a couple weeks, ok?
Let's give Didi and Eovaldi more than a couple weeks, ok?
Exactly. Nobody disputes that giving up Greene for Didi was a gamble, but gambling with a 26 year old you project to be your 4th or 5th starter to get one of a very scarce commodity, a shortstop, is a gamble that is reasonable to make. This team was very limited in the number of trade chips it had. Eovaldi is a former top prospect, younger (FWIW) than Greene and just as talented. They preferred Eovaldi, Didi and Headley on a FA deal to Shane Greene and two more years of Prado. A week into the season, are we prepared to say that was a bad decision? Even if it turns into a relatively bad outcome, that doesn't mean it was an awful decision at the time.
As for the shortstop position. Drew is a proven major league shortstop. And Prado is a natural second baseman. Yeah Drew hasn't hit like he did in Boston but I think the Yankees could have had a better result with Drew at short and Prado at second.
Now you have two guys up the middle who aren't hitting for shit. Having said that I don't think Gregorious is going to be hitting grand slams anytime soon. And for those who,said their pitching wasn't the problem last year I would agree. And Shane Greene was a big part of that. I can remember watching them play the Orioles last year and hall of famer and Oriole color commentator Jim Palmer salivating over the kid and his ability.
So to make up for losing him to get Didi Gregorious they go and get Evaldi who did not fair well with the Marlins and pitched to a 4 plus era in the national league. Yeah he throws 98 but it was widely acknowledged he gives up a lot of hits and his strike out numbers were not very good. Does Cashman know what the fuck he is doing?
No team in the league wants to rebuild. Rebuilding affects the bottom line, something we know the Yankees current ownership certainly pays attention to.
There is very little to be inspired about with this team right now. Hopefully that will change in the next year or so.
Amen. This guy is the luckiest SOB in the world. At one time he had a $100mm advantage against everyone else. The game changed and a GM who could actually evaluate talent was needed. He is not the guy. Complete buffoon.
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It's always the same argument. Well it was the Yankees brain trust, and now it's Hall and Hank. He's never held accountable.
There is very little to be inspired about with this team right now. Hopefully that will change in the next year or so.
Amen. This guy is the luckiest SOB in the world. At one time he had a $100mm advantage against everyone else. The game changed and a GM who could actually evaluate talent was needed. He is not the guy. Complete buffoon.
Yeah! Forget about all those pesky world series they won. Cashman sux! Firez him!!!!1111
Cashman may be middle of the pack, but the advantage Cashman has is that the meddling is limited. They do it, they do it too damned much, but Cashman has a fair amount of latitude for most of his moves. The next GM could be another Andrew Friedman, or he could be a flipping toady who can't put in a waiver claim without kissing Randy Levine's ring.
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It's always the same argument. Well it was the Yankees brain trust, and now it's Hall and Hank. He's never held accountable.
There is very little to be inspired about with this team right now. Hopefully that will change in the next year or so.
Amen. This guy is the luckiest SOB in the world. At one time he had a $100mm advantage against everyone else. The game changed and a GM who could actually evaluate talent was needed. He is not the guy. Complete buffoon.
Yeah! Forget about all those pesky world series they won. Cashman sux! Firez him!!!!1111
He did a great job writing checks. Take the top free agent available and pay him $25mm per. Stick Micheal brought in the core 4 and Cashman kept writing bigger checks to the top free agent every year. The guy is an accountant.
Can't make this shit up.
Can't make this shit up.
What has he done in the last 5 years as the rules changed? How is the franchise set up for the next 10 years? The guy is a bean counter.
Cashman has been challenged to get younger, better, faster AND stay competitive at the same time. It's an impossible task. We have huge albatross contracts and until recently, have had very little young players to turn to. That's about to change with some really talented kids coming in the next season or so. Maybe sooner...
Look around the league. 1st, there are no great teams. The teams that ARE good have SUCKED for either a very long time (Royals) or sucked for several of the past years and sold off their big pieces for youth (Red Sox). No teams are giving up young players anymore. No great players are making it to free agency early enough in their careers to make signing them valuable and viable.
This might suck for a while. It's not the GM's fault. If anything, it's the ownership's fault for not just biting the bullet, but you can't really fault them, either...they have a MASSIVE stadium bill to pay off.
If you look at it logically, it just is what it is...we're caught in-between. Some teams are dealing with it better than us, but we seem to be moving in the correct direction by allowing our young guys to develop and hope that we can be really competitive in a year or two. In the meantime, it'd behoove every Yankee fan (especially those minted in the past 20 years who've never seen a truly shitty Yankee team) to lower their expectations. Just accept the fact that the past 20 years have been absolutely ridiculous and amazing. Hope that when we can exercise our financial advantages again, we will. Hope that we have legit youngsters in Cave, Bird, Judge and Severino who can become the next core. Just be OK with not being a juggernaut for a few years. It's the only way you'll maintain sanity.
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Yeah because all Cashman does is write $25 mm checks. Never makes any trades. Has never made any under-the-radar signings.
Can't make this shit up.
What has he done in the last 5 years as the rules changed? How is the franchise set up for the next 10 years? The guy is a bean counter.
The question you have to ask is if you or I were the GM for the Yankees from 2000-2010 and had $100mm more than anyone else to spend could you have done as good a job as Cashman?
The goal is just to remain competitive so the place is still (mostly) full in August and September. I don't know if they can. I'm not going to be pissed if they just aren't any good this year. It'd actually be better for us in the long run if we had a terrible season and were able to deal away some guys in July. If they're 20 games out at the deadline and they refuse to deal anyone off, THEN I'll be pissed. Until then, I'm just kinda hanging on for the ride. I don't expect them to win anymore, which is weird, but somehow nostalgic. I fell in love with this team when they were terrible. Then, they were amazing for basically my whole adult life. I can't complain about them not being able to sustain an unsustainable product. The league just isn't set up like that anymore. The bajillion wins from 1994 until very recently are plenty good enough for me to just sit back and watch it all unfold. And be hopeful that there most definitely are better times coming. I think they really are, and we all know rooting for our young players is more fun than rooting for anything else. It'll all be OK eventually. The years of 162 one-game seasons are gone, unfortunately. We gotta think big-picture.
It's not some backhanded insult. We've seen a run of baseball comparable to the very best 20 year periods any teams have ever had in the history of the sport. If you can't see that that's changed the average fan's perspective, you're not so good at logic. Teams don't stay great for two decades. Only the Yankees of the 20's and 30's, late 40's and 50's have been as good as these Yankee teams since 1994. It's fact. You don't have to believe it, but that doesn't make it untrue.
This. We've been down the IFA road before and we simply disagree. But we agree on the lack of direction. The fact that they're whispering about $189 again after the fiasco that was their last attempt just says that the lucky sperm duo have a minimal attention span.
I hit them where I could. I gave up my season tickets in 2013. I go to a game or two a year. They used to make a ton of money off me. Now they don't. When fans stop coming, they'll realize they better get their act together.
Yeah....a shit show with a world championship and 3 trips to the ALCS. Ask Toronto or Baltimore or Pittsburgh or Houston how their last 10 years have been.
It's not some backhanded insult. We've seen a run of baseball comparable to the very best 20 year periods any teams have ever had in the history of the sport. If you can't see that that's changed the average fan's perspective, you're not so good at logic. Teams don't stay great for two decades. Only the Yankees of the 20's and 30's, late 40's and 50's have been as good as these Yankee teams since 1994. It's fact. You don't have to believe it, but that doesn't make it untrue.
There are plenty of spoiled Yankee fans, like the twits who prattle on about how trading Shane Greene was a terrible move after two starts, when we didn't have a starting shortstop prior to the deal. And I respect that Cashman et al had a lot more to do with sustaining success than they get credit for doing (look at the Phillies and the Sox for emphasis of the difficulties of staying on top at length). But there are some serious concerns about what they've done over the last three years or so.
I hit them where I could. I gave up my season tickets in 2013. I go to a game or two a year. They used to make a ton of money off me. Now they don't. When fans stop coming, they'll realize they better get their act together.
I did the same. Gave up my tickets last year. I go with my dad a few times a year and my mom a couple times. I buy tix on stubhub an hour before the game for way below face.
I'm fine with losing. I really wish they'd completely tear it down. I'd rather watch a 70 win team with young guys who have a chance to be good down the road than an 80 win team with overpaid bums. I think i'm in the majority on that one too, something the Yankees clearly don't think is the case.
I just have zero faith in ownership.
But...but....you forgot the Mitchell Report!! The Mitchell report has ruined these last 10 years of Yankee fandom!!
Judge: "I didnt really realize it had won the game until I got around first and was like, oh wait, the game is over.
Yeah I can't stand it. I love baseball, I love talking baseball, but it's the same few dozen posters on Yankee threads, many of whom I like and really respect. I hate seeing it degenerate into pissing contests. It carries over from thread to thread, which is unfortunate.
He drilled it over the left field wall, absolute moonshot no doubter. The only issue with Judge so far is the strikeouts. He's not having bad at bats, he doesn't look lost, he's just trying to cover a huge strike zone and not always succeeding.
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