a study on backyard barbecuing. I believe we need to watch what we're doing in regards to climate change, but this is a little much. Link - ( New Window )
The EPA is funding a study on reducing emissions from backyard grills. Â
So they're saying grease gripping cause pollution? I figured this would be more about burning coal.
If the net here is that ultimately people will be forced to dispose of grease properly (like we have to recycle now) then I don't see what the problem is.
If the net is that they want to make burning coals illegal (and I doubt that's the point) then that's wrong, though promoting a more environmentally safe alternative is perfectly fine.
Also, the article itself is such a perfect example as to why there is no logical discourse in American politics. The first thing they share in this article after stating what's happening is a Republican from Missouri characterizing it as "The EPA wants to find their way into our back yards."
No they don't. They want to take action to protect the environment. I don't even know how these agendas evolve into what they are at this point.
This particular study was titled, "Technology for the Reduction of Particulate Matter Emissions for Residential Propane BBQs," and was to be undertaken by four researchers at the University of California-Riverside between Aug. 15, 2014, and Aug. 14, 2015. The project amount was $15,000. [...] Most importantly, there’s a big difference between funding a small scientific grant and actually seeking to regulate an activity. The EPA makes clear that this grant isn’t exactly the camel’s nose under the tent. "EPA does not regulate backyard barbecues and does not plan to in the future," [...] The difference between supporting a study and setting national policy is especially wide in this case, because the funding comes from a national student design competition -- the "P3 Awards: A National Student Design Competition for Sustainability Focusing on People, Prosperity and the Planet."
that it has no interest in doing something is:
A. about to regulate you on it, and tax or fee you to do it, and
B. is like convincing the first girl that lets you when you tell her that you are "only gonna put it in a little".
that it has no interest in doing something is:
A. about to regulate you on it, and tax or fee you to do it, and
B. is like convincing the first girl that lets you when you tell her that you are "only gonna put it in a little".
As part of a representative republic, isn't it our duty as citizens to all be activists and to fight for what we believe in?
Or is it just that those dirty activists are the ones responsible for dark folks getting all uppity and forcing poor, innocent companies to look a things such as health and safety rather than just the bottom line?
As part of a representative republic, isn't it our duty as citizens to all be activists and to fight for what we believe in?
Or is it just that those dirty activists are the ones responsible for dark folks getting all uppity and forcing poor, innocent companies to look a things such as health and safety rather than just the bottom line?
I don't get it.
And just look at what they've done to charcoal. The fuckers activated it. Goddamn commies!
that it has no interest in doing something is:
A. about to regulate you on it, and tax or fee you to do it, and
B. is like convincing the first girl that lets you when you tell her that you are "only gonna put it in a little".
Now I have the image of old man penis and I didn't even go to the gym today.
Government is getting too big. We need to keep it small -- small enough to fit in our bedrooms and tell us who we can love. Small enough to fit into a vagina, so we can dictate to women what to do with their bodies.
In comment 12237858 Mike in Long Beach said:
[quote] So they're saying grease gripping cause pollution? I figured this would be more about burning coal.
If the net here is that ultimately people will be forced to dispose of grease properly
Why dumping the grease over the fence into your dickhead neighbor's yard isn't proper?
some limited interaction with EPA. They are not all bad guys...there are some very good and reasonable people there who understand the economic impact of their policies.
However, there are also those who don't give a darn about the tradeoff of policies on American workers and companies.
It's really hit or miss, depending on the individual and/or office you are dealing with.
In comment 12237858 Mike in Long Beach said:
[quote] So they're saying grease gripping cause pollution? I figured this would be more about burning coal.
If the net here is that ultimately people will be forced to dispose of grease properly
Why dumping the grease over the fence into your dickhead neighbor's yard isn't proper?
If he's a dichead, dump it on his steps and watch the hilarity.
for basically nothing. 15 plus who knows how much to actually get to the point where they can give it out. I wonder how many children we could have fed instead.
Laurence Tribe is arguably the nation’s foremost liberal legal scholar.
The longtime Harvard Law School professor – whose former students include President Barack Obama and Supreme Court justices John Roberts and Elena Kagan – notes that he taught the nation’s first environmental law class, nearly a half-century ago.
He also stated – in a recent email to the Atlantic’s David A. Graham – that he shares the Obama administration’s “attitude toward climate change and the urgency of meaningful action on that front.”
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What he believes is that the Environmental Protection Agency is doing an end run around the Clean Air Act in its zeal to implement Obama’s Clean Power Plan. In so doing, the agency is “asserting executive power far beyond its lawful authority,” Tribe contended.
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EPA is attempting “an unconstitutional trifecta,” he maintained. The regulatory agency is “usurping the prerogatives of the states, Congress and the federal courts – all at once.”
You do realize he's a lawyer (and nothing against them, I'm one myself, an environmental lawyer no less) and is being paid handsomely by the coal companies to make these arguments. I worked on a case with Tribe for a large company, and he was more than happy to get paid very well to make facially reasonable constitutional arguments. We lost badly.
And, while it has nothing to do with this study, I agree with Eric that there are alot of good and well-intentioned people working at EPA; then there are the true-believers who are very anti-industry and don't seem to understand the need to balance what they are doing with the real and valid concerns of those tthey regulate.
You do realize he's a lawyer (and nothing against them, I'm one myself, an environmental lawyer no less) and is being paid handsomely by the coal companies to make these arguments. I worked on a case with Tribe for a large company, and he was more than happy to get paid very well to make facially reasonable constitutional arguments. We lost badly.
And, while it has nothing to do with this study, I agree with Eric that there are alot of good and well-intentioned people working at EPA; then there are the true-believers who are very anti-industry and don't seem to understand the need to balance what they are doing with the real and valid concerns of those tthey regulate.
Is that not balanced by your own example of Tribe and his ilk?
Seems to me that it is. Also seems to me that both are an unfortunate necessity because too many folks lack the mental fortitude to rationally look at the issues at hand. There are a few examples on this thread.
95% of the responses on this thread are tongue in cheek as it was meant to be.
Sorry it offended you.
Now you know what's wrong in America today when a joke thread gets a reaction as yours.
"EPA doing a study on backyard barbecuing. I believe we need to watch what we're doing in regards to climate change, but this is a little much" ... That looks like an intended political thread, no joke intended but I'll admit my funny meter may need some work after the last 15 or so years. The funny part came, in my view, when some research down thread showed it was not the EPA doing a study, but a college competition funded by the EPA and worth a whopping $15,000.
It's an 11 year old competition.
These are just a few of the many P3 projects that are making a difference today:
* A company created by a former team from Oberlin
College has installed its energy-saving technology in
numerous schools and other organizations.
* A team from the University of Virginia designed
and built the Learning Barge, the world’s first
floating wetlands classroom powered by renewable
sources. The Elizabeth River Project now manages
the barge for teaching school children and the
public about the importance of environmental
stewardship.
* A P3 Award team from the University of CaliforniaDavis
has launched a company that converts the
carbon found in wastewater into high-performance
biodegradable plastic, turning a waste into a desired
product.
And how did become a thing? First it was a report from FOX titled, Lawmaker calls for a rebellion against EPA pollution emissions for backyard barbecues ... (LINK)
Then it was picked up by Allan West on his website with the title... INSANITY: Two things the EPA wants to regulate in your life. He starts off with, Ladies and gents, I just cannot ascertain when the absurdity of this current administration will cease. ... (LINK). Eventually it made it's way to the Uncle Rufus website linked in the OP.
Good night, all.
Didn't realize whining is a one time occurrence, because Â
If the net here is that ultimately people will be forced to dispose of grease properly (like we have to recycle now) then I don't see what the problem is.
If the net is that they want to make burning coals illegal (and I doubt that's the point) then that's wrong, though promoting a more environmentally safe alternative is perfectly fine.
Also, the article itself is such a perfect example as to why there is no logical discourse in American politics. The first thing they share in this article after stating what's happening is a Republican from Missouri characterizing it as "The EPA wants to find their way into our back yards."
No they don't. They want to take action to protect the environment. I don't even know how these agendas evolve into what they are at this point.
Yayyyyy.
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Its the result of a student competition
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Agree. Just more of the same crap of going after anything considered to be a part the traditional American culture.
They're numero uno on El Pinko List.
A. about to regulate you on it, and tax or fee you to do it, and
B. is like convincing the first girl that lets you when you tell her that you are "only gonna put it in a little".
Nah, he was screaming at the kids while on his cell phone.
A. about to regulate you on it, and tax or fee you to do it, and
B. is like convincing the first girl that lets you when you tell her that you are "only gonna put it in a little".
You should change your handle.
You give old people a bad rep.
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is completely out of control.
Agree. Just more of the same crap of going after anything considered to be a part the traditional American culture.
With you 100%
They need to stop trying to fund innovation that I'm afraid of. Fuckers.
As part of a representative republic, isn't it our duty as citizens to all be activists and to fight for what we believe in?
Or is it just that those dirty activists are the ones responsible for dark folks getting all uppity and forcing poor, innocent companies to look a things such as health and safety rather than just the bottom line?
I don't get it.
As part of a representative republic, isn't it our duty as citizens to all be activists and to fight for what we believe in?
Or is it just that those dirty activists are the ones responsible for dark folks getting all uppity and forcing poor, innocent companies to look a things such as health and safety rather than just the bottom line?
I don't get it.
And just look at what they've done to charcoal. The fuckers activated it. Goddamn commies!
A. about to regulate you on it, and tax or fee you to do it, and
B. is like convincing the first girl that lets you when you tell her that you are "only gonna put it in a little".
Now I have the image of old man penis and I didn't even go to the gym today.
Just don't give them a pistol and a taser...they tend to get confused.
You know who else regulated backyard grill use?!? A guy by the name of HITLER!
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What an outrage!!!!!
You know who else regulated backyard grill use?!? A guy by the name of HITLER!
Woah
So misleading. It was George Hitler (no relation)
Nothing to see here.
Now, if it was $15mm, I'd have to booby trap my Weber !
[quote] So they're saying grease gripping cause pollution? I figured this would be more about burning coal.
If the net here is that ultimately people will be forced to dispose of grease properly
Why dumping the grease over the fence into your dickhead neighbor's yard isn't proper?
However, there are also those who don't give a darn about the tradeoff of policies on American workers and companies.
It's really hit or miss, depending on the individual and/or office you are dealing with.
My response was, "You should care, they pay your salary."
[quote] So they're saying grease gripping cause pollution? I figured this would be more about burning coal.
If the net here is that ultimately people will be forced to dispose of grease properly
Why dumping the grease over the fence into your dickhead neighbor's yard isn't proper?
If he's a dichead, dump it on his steps and watch the hilarity.
The longtime Harvard Law School professor – whose former students include President Barack Obama and Supreme Court justices John Roberts and Elena Kagan – notes that he taught the nation’s first environmental law class, nearly a half-century ago.
He also stated – in a recent email to the Atlantic’s David A. Graham – that he shares the Obama administration’s “attitude toward climate change and the urgency of meaningful action on that front.”
EPA overreach too much even for Obama's professor - ( New Window )
And, while it has nothing to do with this study, I agree with Eric that there are alot of good and well-intentioned people working at EPA; then there are the true-believers who are very anti-industry and don't seem to understand the need to balance what they are doing with the real and valid concerns of those tthey regulate.
And, while it has nothing to do with this study, I agree with Eric that there are alot of good and well-intentioned people working at EPA; then there are the true-believers who are very anti-industry and don't seem to understand the need to balance what they are doing with the real and valid concerns of those tthey regulate.
Is that not balanced by your own example of Tribe and his ilk?
Seems to me that it is. Also seems to me that both are an unfortunate necessity because too many folks lack the mental fortitude to rationally look at the issues at hand. There are a few examples on this thread.
Kinda sad.
Why?
95% of the responses on this thread are tongue in cheek as it was meant to be.
Sorry it offended you.
Now you know what's wrong in America today when a joke thread gets a reaction as yours.
Come on.
Sorry it offended you.
Now you know what's wrong in America today when a joke thread gets a reaction as yours.
"EPA doing a study on backyard barbecuing. I believe we need to watch what we're doing in regards to climate change, but this is a little much" ... That looks like an intended political thread, no joke intended but I'll admit my funny meter may need some work after the last 15 or so years. The funny part came, in my view, when some research down thread showed it was not the EPA doing a study, but a college competition funded by the EPA and worth a whopping $15,000.
It's an 11 year old competition.
These are just a few of the many P3 projects that are making a difference today:
* A company created by a former team from Oberlin
College has installed its energy-saving technology in
numerous schools and other organizations.
* A team from the University of Virginia designed
and built the Learning Barge, the world’s first
floating wetlands classroom powered by renewable
sources. The Elizabeth River Project now manages
the barge for teaching school children and the
public about the importance of environmental
stewardship.
* A P3 Award team from the University of CaliforniaDavis
has launched a company that converts the
carbon found in wastewater into high-performance
biodegradable plastic, turning a waste into a desired
product.
And how did become a thing? First it was a report from FOX titled, Lawmaker calls for a rebellion against EPA pollution emissions for backyard barbecues ... (LINK)
Then it was picked up by Allan West on his website with the title... INSANITY: Two things the EPA wants to regulate in your life. He starts off with, Ladies and gents, I just cannot ascertain when the absurdity of this current administration will cease. ... (LINK). Eventually it made it's way to the Uncle Rufus website linked in the OP.
Good night, all.
For all you just posted proves it's a joke thread.
Going to be a hell of presidential race over the next 1 1/2 years is all I have to say.
I'll be either hunting or fishing.
Wake me when it's over.