and the winner is the Edmonton Oilers!
Not going to lie, we oilers fans screw up this kid and the franchise should be taken from the city of Edmonton.
Anyone thinking they have the guts to move the pick or do we see teams checking in on Nugent-Hopkins?
He's going to be good, and soon, too.
Not surprising with this "leadership" group though.
Not surprising with this "leadership" group though.
No kidding. McDavid and Eichel should have made this a prime-time event. Sadly it felt very bush league.
I hope they come away with a forward or a center who can put the puck in the net.
So you think the whole thing is rigged and the NHL has simply selected Edmonton for the 4th times in 6 years for the #1 overall pick?
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So you think the whole thing is rigged and the NHL has simply selected Edmonton for the 4th times in 6 years for the #1 overall pick?
No, I'm suggesting they do rig it and stop sending players to Edmonton. This kid is labeled a "generation" type player. Put the kid nowhere besides the Pacific Northwest.
LOL, some people thought they would/should have and they fixed the 2005 draft to give the Penguins Crosby
Edmonton's luck is amazing.
Edmonton's luck is amazing.
You misspelled ineptitude.
Im pretty tired of these multi-year fail jobs. Pittburgh and Chicago completely owe their recent success to multiple years of drafting at the top. COL and EDM may follow suit. Teams should lose pingpong balls after two years of drafting top 3, and/or getting the #1 overall pick.
Throw in Schnieder and another 1st and they may answer the phone.
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Still I would like to see the Devils try and offer Merrill, Larsson/Gelinas, 6th pick, and Reid Boucher.
Throw in Schnieder and another 1st and they may answer the phone.
I know another 1st would likely have to be included. Edmonton is desperate for defensive help though. The only Devils that I would consider untouchable are Schneider, Severson, and Henrique.
Side-question: why is the NHL lottery so early and the NBA lottery so late?
The Oilers dont need to build Rome overnight.
Edmonton's luck is amazing.
Why the hell would you want him in Toronto; or in the east?
apparently he's a douche-bag, locker room cancer.
which based on the circumstances surround Seguin leaving Boston I'm surprised the Bruins were allegedly one of the teams interested in Hall (along with the Pens from what I read).
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I was hoping he'd go to Toronto.
Edmonton's luck is amazing.
You misspelled ineptitude.
Im pretty tired of these multi-year fail jobs. Pittburgh and Chicago completely owe their recent success to multiple years of drafting at the top. COL and EDM may follow suit. Teams should lose pingpong balls after two years of drafting top 3, and/or getting the #1 overall pick.
Actually your statement is completely incorrect.
The Penguins sucked from 2002-2006 because of the old NHL pre-cap system where all smaller markets basically had to sell of players.
The Blackhawks sucked for a decade because of cheap management of Dollar Bill.
Neither tanked.
You know who did tank (aside from Buffalo)?
Washington.
That is how they got Ovechkin.
In 2003 the Caps made the playoffs, in 2004 they sold everybody off, finished 2nd to last, and beat the Pens for the draft lottery.
THEY were the tankers.
The old system wasn't bad for hockey and teams didn't "have to sell guys." I'm fine with not going to baseball's model, but what they went to was waaaaaaay overboard. It doesn't even adjust caps for cost of living or income taxes - which is so hard to fucking fathom as an educated adult that its insulting.
Your precious Penguins have been at the salary cap for years now - they couldn't dress Defensemen the last 2 weeks of this season because they weren't *allowed* to spend more. Yet whoa is them, a decade ago they just had to trade guys in free agent years. Okay... your whining is as sensical as LePews.
The league keeps the cap way too low so that 80% of teams can afford to spend at the cap. It bends over backwards these days to help out the Canadian teams just because their dollar has been hurt by the commodities bust - didn't raise the cap when commodities were booming, but funny how its a factor now.
It's socialist bullshit - and the players are getting an absolutely terrible deal.
The old system wasn't bad for hockey and teams didn't "have to sell guys." I'm fine with not going to baseball's model, but what they went to was waaaaaaay overboard. It doesn't even adjust caps for cost of living or income taxes - which is so hard to fucking fathom as an educated adult that its insulting.
Your precious Penguins have been at the salary cap for years now - they couldn't dress Defensemen the last 2 weeks of this season because they weren't *allowed* to spend more. Yet whoa is them, a decade ago they just had to trade guys in free agent years. Okay... your whining is as sensical as LePews.
The league keeps the cap way too low so that 80% of teams can afford to spend at the cap. It bends over backwards these days to help out the Canadian teams just because their dollar has been hurt by the commodities bust - didn't raise the cap when commodities were booming, but funny how its a factor now.
It's socialist bullshit - and the players are getting an absolutely terrible deal.
The pre lockout system was worse than baseball since you have so many Canadian teams and much less TV revenue.
The problem is, the NHL is 20 or more roster and with stars getting what they deserve there is way too much of a crunch you don't see in the smaller NBA or behmouth TV revenue NFL.
In a free market or even the NBA's market, they easily would have gotten that.
Whoa is Canada. Give me a break. It's hard to believe Fehr hasn't gotten more for his players than he has.
Again, I have to ask, why was the NHL lottery yesterday and the NBA lottery is next month?
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I was hoping he'd go to Toronto.
Edmonton's luck is amazing.
You misspelled ineptitude.
Im pretty tired of these multi-year fail jobs. Pittburgh and Chicago completely owe their recent success to multiple years of drafting at the top. COL and EDM may follow suit. Teams should lose pingpong balls after two years of drafting top 3, and/or getting the #1 overall pick.
Actually your statement is completely incorrect.
The Penguins sucked from 2002-2006 because of the old NHL pre-cap system where all smaller markets basically had to sell of players.
The Blackhawks sucked for a decade because of cheap management of Dollar Bill.
Neither tanked.
You know who did tank (aside from Buffalo)?
Washington.
That is how they got Ovechkin.
In 2003 the Caps made the playoffs, in 2004 they sold everybody off, finished 2nd to last, and beat the Pens for the draft lottery.
THEY were the tankers.
Great takedown post. Except I never said that Pittsburgh or Chicago tanked. My only point was that teams like Pitt and Chi owed their success to a stretch where each floundered for multiple seasons. That's pretty undeniable.
Pens drafted top 5 for 5 straight seasons, including #1 Crosby and #2 Malkin (who would have been #1 in 75% of the past 15 drafts). #1 MAF was a trade up from 3rd overall. Those 3 players form the current core of the Pens, plus Letang (#62), Sutter, Kunitz, and Hornqvust. Kunitz was acquired for Ryan Whitney (2002 #5). Sutter was obtained in the Staal (2006 #2) trade. So 5 of the top 7 Pens (including the top 3) were obtained from that horrid stretch.
Blackhawks can attribute a lot more of their success to non-elite picks. But of their big 3, two were top 3 overall picks: Toews (#3) and Kane (#1). Keith was not a 1st rounder, and they've made a ton of good picks. Still, without that mid-2000s shitshow, they dont win a championship.
The old system wasn't bad for hockey and teams didn't "have to sell guys." I'm fine with not going to baseball's model, but what they went to was waaaaaaay overboard. It doesn't even adjust caps for cost of living or income taxes - which is so hard to fucking fathom as an educated adult that its insulting.
Your precious Penguins have been at the salary cap for years now - they couldn't dress Defensemen the last 2 weeks of this season because they weren't *allowed* to spend more. Yet whoa is them, a decade ago they just had to trade guys in free agent years. Okay... your whining is as sensical as LePews.
The league keeps the cap way too low so that 80% of teams can afford to spend at the cap. It bends over backwards these days to help out the Canadian teams just because their dollar has been hurt by the commodities bust - didn't raise the cap when commodities were booming, but funny how its a factor now.
It's socialist bullshit - and the players are getting an absolutely terrible deal.
IDK if I'd call it "socialist bullshit" and I'm a Devils fan, but in a sport like hockey that is struggling to find a wider audience repeated failures from large market (hockey terms anyway - population does not make a city a large hockey market) clubs is bad for the game. Hockey, unlike baseball, can market personalities because they do play a role in the outcome of most games, but it still hurts the sport if major markets have zero rooting interest after February ro so.