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Gary from The East End : Admin : 4/19/2015 8:55 am
Good morning Mets fans.

Iced coffee this morning with a shot of espresso and it tastes delicious.

Seven wins in a row after some DeGrominant work the by the starter and stomach-churning outings by the back of the bullpen. Is the Gilmartin experiment coming to an end?

A base knock and a round-tripper from Flores yesterday. Looks like our shortstop is getting into a groove.

Duda and Cuddyer remain red hot, but some regression to the mean is to be expected. Doubtful that they sustain a .444 and .519 BABIP respectively throughout the season.

Granderson and Murphy are similarly ice cold with respective BABIPs of .161 and .128(!). Have to figure that balls will have to start dropping in for them sooner or later.

TDA, like the little bear's porridge, is just right. Slashing .289/.317/.526 with BABIP of .273 and a K rate of just under 10%, this could conceivably be the real, 2015 d'Arnaud, which is pretty damn exciting.

Down in the minors, Conforto hit another homer. Ho-hum.

Today, Matt Harvey brings the heat we look to break out the brooms as the good guys face the Marlins at 1:10 EDT.

Let's go Mets.
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RE: This is an opportunity for guys  
sshin05 : 4/19/2015 5:29 pm : link
In comment 12240190 Headhunter said:
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This is a testament to the depth of the system. This will make the team stronger in September


I agree, this will test the depth of the organization and guys will have to step up.
Conforto  
sphinx : 4/19/2015 5:54 pm : link
Adam Rubin
Text from scout: "Conforto just hit another bomb! Get him out of this league. The kid has been incredible."

btw  
sshin05 : 4/19/2015 5:55 pm : link
plawecki will the #1 catcher. And Robles was pitching very well in Vegas.
RE: Conforto  
sshin05 : 4/19/2015 5:56 pm : link
In comment 12240209 sphinx said:
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Adam Rubin
Text from scout: "Conforto just hit another bomb! Get him out of this league. The kid has been incredible."


was that his 5th? He needs to move up now.
Rubin  
sphinx : 4/19/2015 6:14 pm : link
Top catching prospect Kevin Plawecki and right-handed reliever Hansel Robles will be promoted from Triple-A Las Vegas. Plawecki will take over the No. 1 catching duties, with Anthony Recker remaining the backup, manager Terry Collins said. ...

Alex Torres will become the primary left-handed reliever in Blevins' absence. The Mets also have southpaw Sean Gilmartin in their bullpen, but neither Torres nor Gilmartin is considered a lefty specialist. ...

Right-handed reliever Vic Black, whose rehab assignment had been transferred to Double-A Binghamton over the weekend, is being sent to the Hospital for Special Surgery for MRIs of his shoulder and neck.

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21 year old Dilson Herrera is on fire in  
Headhunter : 4/19/2015 6:14 pm : link
AAA
Ugh...  
ZGiants98 : 4/19/2015 6:22 pm : link
Had to run out earlier and its 7-1. Come back and WTF. So shitty losing Blevens and TDA. Man.

Plawecki and Robles time.

Man we are getting crushed with injuries early.
I wonder if Plawecki  
ZGiants98 : 4/19/2015 6:23 pm : link
is successful if he and TDA share duties when he returns?
Fuck the shithouse florida marlins.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/19/2015 6:31 pm : link
I hate that team so much.
RE: 21 year old Dilson Herrera is on fire in  
ZGiants98 : 4/19/2015 6:34 pm : link
In comment 12240223 Headhunter said:
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AAA


Reynolds too. The two of them are scalding hot the last few days.
I don't know how that would work?  
Headhunter : 4/19/2015 6:34 pm : link
Say Plawecki shows enough in 8 weeks to be a number 1 catcher, how do you divide playing time? You can only have 1 number 1. I don't remember a catching situation ever where a team had 1A & 1B catchers
RE: Fuck the shithouse florida marlins.  
ZGiants98 : 4/19/2015 6:34 pm : link
In comment 12240237 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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I hate that team so much.


So do I. Fuck.
Horrible day,  
NyquistX3 : 4/19/2015 6:36 pm : link
but good to hang onto the win. At least the Mets have some depth, and Blevins/TDA should be back by mid season.
RE: I don't know how that would work?  
ZGiants98 : 4/19/2015 6:36 pm : link
In comment 12240240 Headhunter said:
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Say Plawecki shows enough in 8 weeks to be a number 1 catcher, how do you divide playing time? You can only have 1 number 1. I don't remember a catching situation ever where a team had 1A & 1B catchers


I think you name the starter such as TDA and maybe try to get Plawecki two days backing him up at catcher, maybe a game at first, key pinch hitter of the bench, ect. I don't know. I think it might work. I guess we'll cross that bridge when we get there.
Jose Reyes - Kevin Plawecki  
sphinx : 4/19/2015 6:37 pm : link
Adam Rubin
The Mets drafted Kevin Plawecki out of Purdue with the extra pick they got for losing Jose Reyes to the Marlins as a free agent.

You know Black is going  
ZGiants98 : 4/19/2015 6:38 pm : link
to be fucked too. Something is up with him and has been since Spring Training.

So lets see Wheeler, Edgin, Black, Mejia, Wright, TDA, and Blevens and we haven't even played three fucking weeks. Awesome.
Matt Harvey's day ...  
sphinx : 4/19/2015 6:42 pm : link
Harvey had been sick for a couple of days. The illness deprived him of sleep and the ability to comfortably swallow.

He texted a trainer at 7:30 a.m. Sunday when the illness intensified, but ultimately decided to proceed with his scheduled matinee start against the Miami Marlins.


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TDA to Plawecki  
Shecky : 4/19/2015 6:49 pm : link
It sucks losing TDA obviously. But Plawecki will definitely grow on the fans big time. Be patient with him the first couple weeks, let him settle in, and I don't think we will miss much of a beat. He does a lot of little things very very well.
this type of early season adversity builds character  
GMenLTS : 4/19/2015 6:49 pm : link
especially if they can stay above water while they progressively get key people back.

My early takeaway thus far into the season. Forgetting the record and the rotation, this squad has some balls.
RE: Matt Harvey's day ...  
Ira : 4/19/2015 6:51 pm : link
In comment 12240253 sphinx said:
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Harvey had been sick for a couple of days. The illness deprived him of sleep and the ability to comfortably swallow.

He texted a trainer at 7:30 a.m. Sunday when the illness intensified, but ultimately decided to proceed with his scheduled matinee start against the Miami Marlins. Read more ... - ( New Window )


In a backwards way that's good news. There's a reason he wasn't in top form.
RE: TDA to Plawecki  
ZGiants98 : 4/19/2015 6:57 pm : link
In comment 12240263 Shecky said:
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It sucks losing TDA obviously. But Plawecki will definitely grow on the fans big time. Be patient with him the first couple weeks, let him settle in, and I don't think we will miss much of a beat. He does a lot of little things very very well.


I absolutely hate losing TDA as good as he has been playing but I can't deny Im pretty excited for Plawecki. He seems to have been heating up in AAA the last couple of days as well. Thank god this team has depth in spades. These injuries are getting out of hand though.
David Wright to resume baseball activities  
Headhunter : 4/19/2015 7:00 pm : link
tomorrow
Why did Collins send Harvey out to start the 7th?  
Kevin999 : 4/19/2015 7:02 pm : link
Everyone knew he was sick, he said he had nothing left in the tank after the 6th... why??? Also, Flores is finally starting to hit so lets sit him. It worked out with Tejada today but it could hurt Flores in the long run. I really hate our manager.
the one thing this team could not stand  
pjcas18 : 4/19/2015 7:07 pm : link
in my opinion was injuries. this is the first year I had expectations and losing #2 starter, top lefty reliever, closer (due to his own stupidity) for extensive time was about what I felt they could withstand, and they surprised me going undefeated without Wright.

This will be a test.

How does the 40-man work with injures. TDA to DL, but does that mean they still need to remove someone for Plawecki who is not on the 40-man?

And by the way, as much as I detest Tejada he is tailor made for this role. I think Flores starting and Tejada backup utility IFer makes Tovar expendable.
Question on the Mets Attendance  
hudson : 4/19/2015 7:08 pm : link
I understand why they'd sell out today; but Friday and Saturday they had outstanding crowds.
Was there some promo or what gives?

I could understand getting 30k, but 40 both non-Harvey days in April?
PJ I think we had a spot  
ZGiants98 : 4/19/2015 7:16 pm : link
on the 40 man anyway by moving Wheeler/Edgin to the 60 day DL and Mejia to the suspension list. Robles was already on the 40 so we should be fine.

I really wanted a healthy run this year but this team does have depth. More than most teams. I don't think many teams can lose a catcher of TDA's caliber and insert a major league ready 1st round pick the next day.

Robles was hitting 98 MPH last night and apparently has a wicked slider. Leathersich is on the 40 and finally seems to be getting over his wildness. Hopefully these guys aren't out too long.
They're winning games and fans are excited.  
arcarsenal : 4/19/2015 7:17 pm : link
Thus, they're coming to the park again.

Not really rocket science here.
If the Mets win  
ZGiants98 : 4/19/2015 7:19 pm : link
the fans will come. We are everywhere and some of the most passionate nuts out there. Ive always said. Shouldn't be hard to figure out why fans are flocking to Citi recently.
Whoa let's not bend the truth  
Headhunter : 4/19/2015 7:26 pm : link
Harvey had 70 some pitches after the 6th. Collins asked him how he felt, Harvey said"no worse" and went out for the 7th where he had nothing left. Giving Flores the day off gave Tejada the opportunity to deliver the biggest hit in the game. The Mets have the Best record in the National League and the second best behind the Tigers in all of baseball. TC is winning losing Wheeler David Wright and others. He is doing a great job this season
Friday Night was Harvey TShirt Night  
Headhunter : 4/19/2015 7:28 pm : link
Saturday was Fireworks Night
Nice weather and the Mets are winning  
Gary from The East End : Admin : 4/19/2015 7:28 pm : link
Sounds like a great time to go the ball game.

Plus, it's not like DeGrom is chopped liver. He did win ROY last year.
RE: Nice weather and the Mets are winning  
PhiPsi125 : 4/19/2015 7:33 pm : link
In comment 12240313 Gary from The East End said:
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Sounds like a great time to go the ball game.

Plus, it's not like DeGrom is chopped liver. He did win ROY last year.


Exactly. DeGrom is just as much as a "must see" as Harvey is at this point. The Mets have a hell of a 1 - 2 punch with Harvey and DeGrom.
Long term, sitting Flores  
Kevin999 : 4/19/2015 8:15 pm : link
was the wrong decision. Tejada got a start just this Wednesday. A young kid like Flores does not need two days off a week, especially with an off day tomorrow. He was finally starting to look confident and he gets rewarded with riding the pine, makes no sense. Let the kid get into a nice rhythm.
As for Harvey I could be wrong but I thought Rubin or someone tweeted he said he was asked after 6 and he said he was gassed. I could have misread it or the tweet could have been wrong. Collins did say "When he went out in the seventh, you could tell, obviously, he was out of gas," If it was so obvious why leave him in for three batters?
Very bummed about both of today's injuries & the Black set back  
Eric on Li : 4/19/2015 8:31 pm : link
but excited to see Plawecki get a shot. He's ready for it. Time is now for Alex Torres to become the 8th inning guy. Gilmartin going to start getting some big situations as well, good learning experience for him.

Pen's getting dangerously thin again. Is Soriano still floating out there? I'm guessing they won't have any interest unless Parnell has as a set back, but if he does Soriano has to be a consideration. Don't want to see Familia and both Torres' pitch every day for a month.
Yeah I was thinking that too.  
ZGiants98 : 4/19/2015 8:50 pm : link
Blevens was getting used a ton. A silver lining might be that we get to really see what we have in Gilmartin now. If he can't handle it, then we won't care if we have to send him back to Minnesota. He's going to be tested for sure now. Goedell might get a little extra use as well as Robles of course. This probably isn't a bad thing this early in the season to see what we have and I still think we might have a couple more options in AAA like Leathersich who might emerge later as well. I think the bullpen will be ok.

Again, few teams carry three lefties in their bullpen but we did. Few teams have two young catchers of TDA's and Plawecki's caliber but we do.

Cant give Sandy enough credit.

I think  
ZGiants98 : 4/19/2015 8:52 pm : link
the "team" will be fine.

I just feel horrible for TDA the player who was looking like he was poised to have a huge year on both sides of the plate and his confidence was through the roof lately.

TDA might have been an all-star this year. He's looked that good.
we really need an 8th inning  
CMicks3110 : 4/19/2015 9:10 pm : link
set-up man though, and buddy carlyle/carlos torres scares me
I think it will be patch  
ZGiants98 : 4/19/2015 9:19 pm : link
work for a little while until somebody emerges or Parnell comes back. Like I said, Robles was hitting 98 on the gun last night so Im at least intrigued to see what he can bring. Goedell has some pretty good stuff. A. Torres has been pretty good lately so maybe it will be him. Lets see what happens.
If I had to set up the pen right now  
ZGiants98 : 4/19/2015 9:23 pm : link
It would probably be

Closer- Familia
8th- A. Torres
7th- Carlos Torres
Loogy- Gilmartin
Roogy- Goedell
Anywhere man- Carlyle
Wildcard- Robles

Im not 100 percent confident in A. Torres either but let's see.
Alex Torres has his Mario hat now.  
arcarsenal : 4/19/2015 9:28 pm : link
I think that's all he needed.
Is there an ETA  
PA Giant Fan : 4/19/2015 9:40 pm : link
on how long they will be out? Obviously a good while..
Im guessing  
ZGiants98 : 4/19/2015 9:50 pm : link
6-8 weeks on the low end.
RE: Alex Torres has his Mario hat now.  
ZGiants98 : 4/19/2015 9:51 pm : link
In comment 12240406 arcarsenal said:
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I think that's all he needed.


lol. Maybe.
there are rumors  
sshin05 : 4/19/2015 10:38 pm : link
on twitter that the marlins are thinking of dumping redmond for wally backman. That's a huge surprise, the season is only 2 weeks old.
RE: there are rumors  
PhiPsi125 : 4/19/2015 10:53 pm : link
In comment 12240480 sshin05 said:
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on twitter that the marlins are thinking of dumping redmond for wally backman. That's a huge surprise, the season is only 2 weeks old.


Its the Marlins...is it really a surprise?

They give up on EVERYBODY.
RE: I don't know how that would work?  
Jay on the Island : 4/19/2015 11:32 pm : link
In comment 12240240 Headhunter said:
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Say Plawecki shows enough in 8 weeks to be a number 1 catcher, how do you divide playing time? You can only have 1 number 1. I don't remember a catching situation ever where a team had 1A & 1B catchers


Atlanta had McCann and Gattis a few seasons ago. That was Gattis' best season statistically.
RE: RE: I don't know how that would work?  
Rob in Rockaway : 4/19/2015 11:36 pm : link
In comment 12240509 Jay on the Island said:
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In comment 12240240 Headhunter said:


Quote:


Say Plawecki shows enough in 8 weeks to be a number 1 catcher, how do you divide playing time? You can only have 1 number 1. I don't remember a catching situation ever where a team had 1A & 1B catchers



Atlanta had McCann and Gattis a few seasons ago. That was Gattis' best season statistically.


Lefty/Righty platoon works a lot better then TDA/Plawecki though. Getting pretty far ahead of ourselves anyway.
RE: there are rumors  
Shecky : 7:13 am : link
In comment 12240480 sshin05 said:
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on twitter that the marlins are thinking of dumping redmond for wally backman. That's a huge surprise, the season is only 2 weeks old.


That would be an interesting move, though I wouldn't expect it so soon. They do need a Backman type, since Redmond is WAY to nice for that team. Though at first the players would not react to well to an outsider coming in and shaking things up.
For Wally's sake  
Headhunter : 7:16 am : link
I hope he gets to bring Thor, Matz's, Monterey & Bowman to give him a shot at success
RE: For Wally's sake  
Shecky : 7:27 am : link
In comment 12240592 Headhunter said:
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I hope he gets to bring Thor, Matz's, Monterey & Bowman to give him a shot at success


If that's the price for Stanton, I take it
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