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| “He does a great job of giving you that spark, that initial boom,” 49ers guard Alex Boone tells Kremer. “But after a while, you just want to kick his ass. . . . He just keeps pushing you, and you’re like, ‘Dude, we got over the mountain. Stop. Let go.’ He kind of wore out his welcome.” “What does that mean?” Kremer asks. “I think he just pushed guys too far. He wanted too much, demanded too much, expected too much. You know, ‘We gotta go out and do this. We gotta go out and do this. We gotta go out and do this.’ And you’d be like, ‘This guy might be clinically insane. He’s crazy.’ . . . I think that if you’re stuck in your ways enough, eventually people are just going to say, ‘Listen, we just can’t work with this.'” |
Because Alex Boone said it not the OP
I don't doubt that he's obsessive, but this is Boone knowing who signs his checks and how poorly he's played lately.
Harbaugh sounds like a couple of other guys that are going to the Hall of Fame: Belichick and Parcells.
The former whines, yells and just comes off as a jackass 99% of the time.
For the most part, Belicheck is just a grumpy man. But he's reticent and very rarely flies off the handle. Parcells ranged from charismatic to annoying, but he was a master of knowing how to push each person, whether it be player, coach or media member.
Harbaugh has one voice - loud and obnoxious.
The former whines, yells and just comes off as a jackass 99% of the time.
For the most part, Belicheck is just a grumpy man. But he's reticent and very rarely flies off the handle. Parcells ranged from charismatic to annoying, but he was a master of knowing how to push each person, whether it be player, coach or media member.
Harbaugh has one voice - loud and obnoxious.
Parcells was an obnoxious, attention whore who was pretty entertaining at press conferences. Great coach and a button pusher too. So I guess I'm saying the same thing, but a little more strongly.
Him leaving the way he did left a very bad taste.
Aside from Harbaugh, all the others had methods to their madness with the ultimate outcome. I didn't expect radar to get it but any other poster should rethink.
How many Super Bowls did the 49ers win with Harbaugh? Easy there, Alex.
It's never good enough? Maybe you're just satisfied being a pro.
Aside from Harbaugh, all the others had methods to their madness with the ultimate outcome. I didn't expect radar to get it but any other poster should rethink.
I'm hardly stupid and why not lump him with the other screamers except that they won Super Bowls. TC was thrown off his team in Jax and almost fired from the Giants unless he changed his ways.. BB is not much of a screamer but is quite vindictive (ask Wes Welker). Parcells is a well known "abuser."
Harbaugh went to the Super Bowl and two NFC Championship games in his three years. Not bad.
Yeah he's over the top and I wouldn't want him for the Giants.
The comparison to Parcells is laughable.
Coughlin had one more year in Jacksonville than Harbaugh had in SF. Not a big difference. Then he was on his way out in NYC before he changed. TC got a second chance and was almost fired again until he realized he had to change.
So the comparison with pre-change TC is pretty apt.
The former whines, yells and just comes off as a jackass 99% of the time.
For the most part, Belicheck is just a grumpy man. But he's reticent and very rarely flies off the handle. Parcells ranged from charismatic to annoying, but he was a master of knowing how to push each person, whether it be player, coach or media member.
Harbaugh has one voice - loud and obnoxious.
Vola! Bingo..well put fatman
I am still a Jim Harbaugh fan. Guy came within two plays foregoing to three straight Super Bowls (fumbles punt by reserve return man and Kap's ill-advised pass).
I think SF is going to take a few steps backwards (and Willis retiring sure didn't help matters).
The former whines, yells and just comes off as a jackass 99% of the time.
For the most part, Belicheck is just a grumpy man. But he's reticent and very rarely flies off the handle. Parcells ranged from charismatic to annoying, but he was a master of knowing how to push each person, whether it be player, coach or media member.
Harbaugh has one voice - loud and obnoxious.
I thought Harbaugh did a really excellent job at pushing his players buttons and getting the most out of them. Too say he only had one voice...seems pretty short sighted.
Parcells was all sarcasm and mocking. He was a tough bastard to play for, but he wasn't this hyperactive lunatic on the sidelines. Harbaugh is just....weird. I don't know how else to describe him. He really seems like there's just something off with him.
He's the Larry Brown of NFL coaches.
This is not a bad thing. Larry is going to be inducted as a Hall of Fame coach (if he hasn't already) soon. But his style has a shelf life. You just have to accept that as part of the package.
In the case of Harbaugh, the 49ers sucked for about a good 9 years before he came the coach. They needed a good kick in the ass. They were running in bum after bum to coach those guys and they failed miserably. Suddenly, in the first year he shows up, they are one win away from the Super Bowl and the next year are 1 play from winning it all.
He will do well at Michigan. However, I'm willing to bet he won't be the coach there within 5 years because there will be the right NFL opening that will exist where he will be given most of the control (similar to what Pete Carroll has with Seattle) and he will take it.
He was a ranter on the sidelines as well...
Not because he isn't a good coach, but because when the team starts losing, it is always going to be over for those guys. It says a lot about Harbaugh that he was canned while the team was still pretty much winning.
Coaches with "schticks" can only last so long. And I don't see many facets of Harbaugh. I see a guy who looks insane most of the time. Now, I don't see how he is in practices, but in games and press conferences, he looks like he's about to blow his lid constantly.
What made Parcells great is that he was a master at knowing who he was dealing with and used it to get the result/reaction he wanted. He once lost a preseason game on purpose to teach the team a lesson. I don't think Harbaugh is wired that way at all.
Belicheck is just a football genius and is a master at X's and O's and deficient at social things. I really don't see the correlation between him and Harbaugh at all.
Modern psych goes by axis I/axis II
Axis I would be debilitating Schizo/Bipolar/Major Depressive. He's none of that, obviously
But he's definately Axis II, which includes a board spectrum of personality disorders, somewhere along the lines of agressive anti-social.
Simple terms suffice: he's a major dick and nothing's going to change that, not even winning. That sounds crazy, but it doesn't mean he's insane.
Modern psych goes by axis I/axis II
Axis I would be debilitating Schizo/Bipolar/Major Depressive. He's none of that, obviously
But he's definately Axis II, which includes a board spectrum of personality disorders, somewhere along the lines of agressive anti-social.
Simple terms suffice: he's a major dick and nothing's going to change that, not even winning. That sounds crazy, but it doesn't mean he's insane.
A major dick, yes..
Ryan will crash and burn in Buffalo and leave that team worse off than now once he's gone. He may win 9-10 games this year and next but the ship will sink. And Ryan will dodge bullets for a few years before ownership finally realizes that this guy cannot build a team to save his life.
Harbaugh would win anywhere despite being insane. Ryan isn't insane he's just a blowhard.
Dan Reeves was a mess too but he comes off as professional and stoic. Why no comparisons to Reeves? That guy clearly wore out his welcome here in NY and literally changed his tune on the whole control thing. ANd I think Reeves didn't put the team first, he put his stupid ego first.
Was Harbaugh as bad as Reeves was here? I'm not sure about that at all. For starters, Harbaugh won up until the day he was fired. A bad season with erratic QBs was 10 wins.
If I am the Niners I let Harbaugh do whatever the hell he wants as long as he's piling up the wins.
It's also worth noting that his success with San Francisco was achieved with a team constructed primarily prior to his arrival.
The clinically insane debate is stupid. Why because he jumps around on the sidelines? I'm worse than that at home.
I also think Alex is saying what he thinks people want to hear and if Harbaugh had managed to mend fences then he would talk about how Harbaugh's passion was a bonus as consistency is a virtue
And yes, I think he's a jerk..
However, many here seem to favor consistency in lieu of SB years and garbage, so Harbaugh would be perfect for you: Consistency, high winning percentage and no SB titles..
I don't see the connection either.
Parcells was great at relating to individual players by figuring out how to motivate them.
I wonder if Harbough has that type coaching talent though I believe he is a good coach.
I think so too. Coughlin gets his guys to improve some other way as opposed to pissing them off. Tom seems to make players want to play better for themselves and their team.
Harbaugh seems like an a-hole just from hearing his quotes and watching him on live TV.
However, many here seem to favor consistency in lieu of SB years and garbage, so Harbaugh would be perfect for you: Consistency, high winning percentage and no SB titles..
Funny, I was thinking of that the other day. Just thinking I'd like to have the Giants rip off several straight years with 12+ wins. If it costs a Superbowl win to do that, I'll take the suckage please.
It's also worth noting that his success with San Francisco was achieved with a team constructed primarily prior to his arrival.
Prior to his arrival, not only had they been a terrible team, but they were a team that no one thought of as even an up and coming team. There talent was not impressive.
Really coincidental how after Harbaugh arrived in San Fran, the players started playing better...I mean, he got to the championship game with Alex Smith.