If you are unsure this kid is a top 10 talent,or simply don't believe he is period.
well then I say this to you. You should re evaluate your evaluation skills,because they are way off. You haven't got a clue!!! :)
Just watch him play over his 4 seasons at Louisville. He's never averaged under 16.2 YPC,18.6 as a Sophmore over 16.8 as a Jr,and 19.9 as a Sr in 6 games. 43 catches for 855 yards and 5 Td's in his final 6 games averaging almost 150 yards a game. He just dominated his competition and was the best WR in CFB. Also,In his 4 seasons at Louisville he had 156 receptions,out of those 33 were TD's. That averages out to be a TD every 4.7 receptions.
He high points and attacks the football better than anyone in this draft,and is the most dynamic athelete after the catch. He's definitely the most explosive on film of the 3 top receivers,and has the highest upside.
If he did not break his foot before the season and miss the first 7 games,we're likely talking about him as the 1st receiver off the board. If he hadn't been injured his #'s would have far surpassed Kevin Whites and likely Amari coopers as well.
While cooper runs the better routes parker has improved immensely in this area. He should continue improving in the NFL with coaching and game action,as he's shown the willingness to learn and dedication to his craft. Cooper is also more of a refined,finished product with less upside.
I'm not as enamored With Whites 4.35 40 at the combine as most. You simply don't see that kind of speed from him consistently on film! At the combine they had simulcast with Cooper,White,Parker and Devante just nudged out White to finish first with cooper trailing both. Clearly if you go by that then Parker is faster then both and his 40 time was incorrect. Wich isn't out of the realm of possabilities,as the NFL sent a memo to all 32 teams notifying them that Coopers official time was incorrect. His Time was adjusted to a 4.36 and 4.38 40.
Anything Kevin White can do Devante parker can do better IMO. As I stated above Parker Highpoints and attacks the ball better than anyone in this draft,and that's Whites biggest strength. Parker is clearly more dynamic with the ball in his hands after the catch,as shown by the #'s and on film.
I believe White has the potential to be a terrific player as well if he keeps improving as he has over the past 2 seasons. I just believe Parker is the Superior and safer prospect!
I believe Devante should be the pick at 9 without a doubt.
The value for OL will marry up more with need in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. I think it would be a big reach to draft any OL with a top 10 selection this year.
I also believe parker is a better prospect then any of the edge rushers.
Contrary to popular belief,receiver is a need as well. With the injury to Cruz,inconsistency of Randall,and uncertainty if Randall will be back after the year I believe Wr should be high on the list of (needs)...
As Reese stated,they can't put all there eggs in one basket with Victor. I'm a huge Cruz fan and hope he comes back 110%,but with the type of injury he sufferd the odds are against it. Even if the Giants knew Victor would be healthy this year,I don't think they could pass up the value and upside of Parker at 9.
So I think just like last year with OBJ,if and when Parker is still available,he (should)be the pick. No discussion needed,and the Giants would be lucky to have him...
Need I say more!?!
I would be very happy with Parker or Cooper but I believe Cooper is also not a finished product, Parker has the frame to continue to grow physically much more than the other two. As for White I think his age 24 will play a major role should he somehow be there at #9 not likely. The Giants are much more about rookies 21-23 years old and not 24 in the top two rounds and this year they are in the top ten drafting.
Much like the OL people are all saying this guy or that guy but that's tells you there are many options and players to fit your needs. Not every player will become all pro but this draft has the players to provide very good talent in most positions except the TE and safety positions. The key to the draft is not the 1st and 2nd round picks its the 3rd to 6th round picks we have to continue to select the BPA. This is a team devoid of real NFL talent in many positions so this draft and the next are about closing the gap of NFL talent between the Giants and other NFL teams.
You (BELIEVE):) Gurley is the best player in the draft and I Nelieve Parker is. Gurley would be right there behind Parker though,as a close second. I may even say it's 1A and 1B. When they're both out there it's like men amongst boys!
I think he and Melvin Gordon are Closer togeather than what the self proclaimed (experts) are saying. Gordon reminds me a lot of Tiki Barber in a lot of ways. He also compares favorably to Jamal Charles in some ways as well. Just a little bigger,and he runs with more power between the tackles,thus the comparison to Tiki.
As I stated above,I would take Parker over Gurley even without the injury. I also believe the Giants would have a tough choice between the two without the injury,and still may anyway. Everything I've heard about his recovery is positive. Gurley is definitely a wild card at 9 if he's there,and I think he will be.
My pick is Parker though,without a doubt!
To get real true value if they want OL I believe it's around picks 17,18.
They need more infusion of top notch talent on this team,and there's a much better chance of adding that at 9. That's why I don't believe they will or want to trade out of the top 10.
well then I say this to you. You should re evaluate your evaluation skills,because they are way off. You haven't got a clue!!! :)
Just watch him play over his 4 seasons at Louisville. He's never averaged under 16.2 YPC,18.6 as a Sophmore over 16.8 as a Jr,and 19.9 as a Sr in 6 games. 43 catches for 855 yards and 5 Td's in his final 6 games averaging almost 150 yards a game. He just dominated his competition and was the best WR in CFB. Also,In his 4 seasons at Louisville he had 156 receptions,out of those 33 were TD's. That averages out to be a TD every 4.7 receptions.
He high points and attacks the football better than anyone in this draft,and is the most dynamic athelete after the catch. He's definitely the most explosive on film of the 3 top receivers,and has the highest upside.
If he did not break his foot before the season and miss the first 7 games,we're likely talking about him as the 1st receiver off the board. If he hadn't been injured his #'s would have far surpassed Kevin Whites and likely Amari coopers as well.
While cooper runs the better routes parker has improved immensely in this area. He should continue improving in the NFL with coaching and game action,as he's shown the willingness to learn and dedication to his craft. Cooper is also more of a refined,finished product with less upside.
I'm not as enamored With Whites 4.35 40 at the combine as most. You simply don't see that kind of speed from him consistently on film!
At the combine they had simulcast with Cooper,White,Parker and Devante just nudged out White to finish first with cooper trailing both. Clearly if you go by that then Parker is faster then both and his 40 time was incorrect. Wich isn't out of the realm of possabilities,as the NFL sent a memo to all 32 teams notifying them that Coopers official time was incorrect. His Time was adjusted to a 4.36 and 4.38 40.
Anything Kevin White can do Devante parker can do better IMO. As I stated above Parker Highpoints and attacks the ball better than anyone in this draft,and that's Whites biggest strength. Parker is clearly more dynamic with the ball in his hands after the catch,as shown by the #'s and on film.
I believe White has the potential to be a terrific player as well if he keeps improving as he has over the past 2 seasons. I just believe Parker is the Superior and safer prospect!
I believe Devante should be the pick at 9 without a doubt.
The value for OL will marry up more with need in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. I think it would be a big reach to draft any OL with a top 10 selection this year.
I also believe parker is a better prospect then any of the edge rushers.
Contrary to popular belief,receiver is a need as well. With the injury to Cruz,inconsistency of Randall,and uncertainty if Randall will be back after the year I believe Wr should be high on the list of (needs)...
As Reese stated,they can't put all there eggs in one basket with Victor. I'm a huge Cruz fan and hope he comes back 110%,but with the type of injury he sufferd the odds are against it. Even if the Giants knew Victor would be healthy this year,I don't think they could pass up the value and upside of Parker at 9.
So I think just like last year with OBJ,if and when Parker is still available,he (should)be the pick. No discussion needed,and the Giants would be lucky to have him...
Need I say more
Above and beyond the BPA, there's really no one else. It would be different (different but not changing) if Peat, Screff, Collins and Flowers were better players, but they're good players not top ten. Beasley, Fowler, Ray, Gregory ...are all incomplete role players, nice additions but not from the lofty position of no. 9.
Moreover.....
I'd argue that WR's out perform their position and O lineman do not. Just look at last years draft where the big O tackles picked first did not have good years. Now consider Matthews and WR's picked late....and , btw, consider how the third WR picked did...some guy we got.
I think Richenberg to center, Scwartz returning, Pugh being healthy and growth with Jerry plus maybe help from Mosley and Jones (both who I think are going to surprise) means a line that kept Eli clean last year gets better. Get much better because I think Williams runs with braile for a guidance system and Jennings and the kid from NE make run blocking better.
That's before we add a lineman late.
In a year that started out with bewildering options and non of them looking satisfactory, it's clarified down to one option and it's name is Parker.
I also realize that we are zealots more than scholars and that maybe the Giants...much smarter than us with unlimited resources ...might see it differently. But based on the scraps we have this has resolved into an easy call.
Oh OH OH, think of the red zone potential and no more field goals on drives when you've dominated. Oh Oh, I can't wait.
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Jeez Doc, your becoming too nice a guy in your old age! :)
Do you have a source for this? And how does that compare to other injuries such as ACLs?
Certainly can't risk something like that - if valid - on the first pick.
Obviously you are one of those in favor of drafting one of the OL that are mid round talents at best!?!
Why in the world would you WANT someone like Cooper off the board when the Giants pick??? 1st round is about talent, not a need. Especially at 9..
It doesn't matter at all. He has excellent playing speed and quick feet.
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It had to be a minor break, hence the short recovery time of six to eight weeks.
Minor breaks seem to heal with no weakening
If there is weakening and it became chronic there's bone grafts available.
I am ready to be corrected, but that's what it SEEMS to be.
Or said another way: 83% suffer no refracture after full, complete recovery.
I've never met the guy, but I"m willin' to bet I'm taller, smarter and better looking than him.
We like the same pick so we must be the same guy, right???, IOW's: two guys couldn't have the same opinion. Truth is, the more I look at it, it's almost the only pick. The only top ten player likely to be available at a position of greatest impact (after QB and along with DE, and CB) high need, and high potential fulfillment rate.
Provided the foot checks out.
Hey chilliman , I've been complimented.
There's a line from TOMBSTONE...Val Klymer brilliantly plays Doc Holiday and he confronts the villain and notorious gunfighter , first he says..."he's my huckleberry" Then he looks closer at the guy..."he is me" says the TB stricken Dr. to his girlfriend. And he gets it, they're alter ego's, the gunfighter the bad side of the ex dentist turned card player, gunfighter and dying at the same time.
It is a great great film. And I'd draft Klymer with the 9th pick if he played WR.
The gap between Parker and the recievers that will be taken in the 2nd round is significant to say the least...