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| Mashaal Radio has published a report stating that Daesh and Taliban group have announced Jihad against each other. Nabi Jan Mullahkhil, police chief of southern Helmand province has told Mashaal Radio during an interview that he has received documents in which both the terrorist groups have announced Jihad against each other. |
Not sure what I'm going to do...
He mentioned how often he had told students that their ideas and precepts were the product of the times and places in which they lived. He said one such precept he had always taken for granted was the idea that the Enlightenment had won. For the first time in his professional life he is reexamining that notion.
The second was that while anti-colonial movements had always attempted to throw out their colonizers, they had almost always accepted the ideas of their colonizers. Not now.
Not sure what I'm going to do...
Should this come to fruition we quite rightly will revel in it, but the ultimate victims of it probably won't be the fighters of either side, who will advance and recede as armies in these parts do, leaving dead and wounded behind but usually evading destruction, but rather the locals who will fall victim to the war and then again to the peace, temporary or permanent, as jealous masters avenge the accommodations that the immobile make with their predecessors.
God damn those Tawainese! First they pick a fight against China...and now this?
In Syria you have the Syrian government, Hezbollah, moderate Syrian rebels, the US and its allies to a degree, ISIS, the Kurds, Al Qaeda, and now maybe the Taliban.
In Yemen you have the Yemeni government in exile, the Houthi, the Saudis and the Arab League, Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, ISIS, the US, Iran, and now maybe the Taliban.
Who am I leaving out?
I long for the days when there were just good guys and bad guys, each wearing different colored hats. Nowadays, the Lone Ranger would ride into town, and he wouldn't know who to shoot at--other than maybe Tonto.
And the Taliban are more like the bullys on the block. They will fight anybody
Its Oil vs Opium.
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He mentioned how often he had told students that their ideas and precepts were the product of the times and places in which they lived. He said one such precept he had always taken for granted was the idea that the Enlightenment had won. For the first time in his professional life he is reexamining that notion.
The second was that while anti-colonial movements had always attempted to throw out their colonizers, they had almost always accepted the ideas of their colonizers. Not now.
The west, (england and france in particular) exercised a limited hegeomony over the middle eastern states after WWI, and france in eqypt and north africa for awhile before that, but it was a business arrangement, not one where you actually had colonists. there was no real foreign occupation of these lands where communities of outsiders came and brought their lifestyles and values.Moreson under the french territories in North Africa, and there you do indeed see a lasting impact on ttheir culture.
In the end, Islam is a way of life, and a foreign occupation doesn't simply displace it.Unless the religious aspect of Islam is uoended, it canb't take root, because Islalm and democracy are fundamentally incompatible.Islalmists recognize this, it is the west which does not, because the west thinks it can spread democracy and leave faith alone, except here they are dealing with a faith that is linked to it's political system, something Europe and the west divorced itself from centuries ago, so they can't relate to why democracy doesn't take.They think that because they believe in freedom of religion that Islam should be compatible, but they overlook that from Islams point, they arent.The Koran doesn't allow for non-believers to be full participants in the political process under a literal interpretation.
Ironically the more recent form of "imperialism" has arguably been theological, as Saudi and Iranian money have financed Sunni and Shia interpretations of Islam that have run roughshod over centuries-old local religious and semi-religious traditions, from Northern Africa to the Subcontinent.
Ironically the more recent form of "imperialism" has arguably been theological, as Saudi and Iranian money have financed Sunni and Shia interpretations of Islam that have run roughshod over centuries-old local religious and semi-religious traditions, from Northern Africa to the Subcontinent.
Free will is the cornerstone of western democracy and civilization. The will of Allah is the guiding force behind Islam.This extends to the political process in both systems.
- I think Hume also made a statement to the effect that it is in cross meanings of terms, i.e. semantics, and that, if these are sorted out (Ghost and Dune etc) the parties find out that they were in agreement the whole time.
differ greatly from societies where one only gets authority by consent and on an individual decision basis
and differ greatly from modern societies of choice or from meritocracies...
so, some who wish to gain authority without earning it would return to the other model
come to think of it, the communists gave broad authority to people who had not earned it, and without broad consent, just as jihadis do.
differ greatly from societies where one only gets authority by consent and on an individual decision basis
and differ greatly from modern societies of choice or from meritocracies...
so, some who wish to gain authority without earning it would return to the other model
come to think of it, the communists gave broad authority to people who had not earned it, and without broad consent, just as jihadis do.
I think the mistake western minds make when examining Islam, and indeed, when dealing with it lies in assuming it is a religion. It is not. It is a way of life, that is all encompassing.It's laws and practices are codified in the Koran. You can make the point that The roman catholic church, or the Anglican church, or even eastern churches exercised great political power in the past, but the difference is that was by consent of the governing, who married their rule to the church to give it legitimacy by choice, from Constantine to Clovis to the eventual decision of the Hapsburgs to call their empire "Holy Roman".The faith, the religion itself never laid out that the church was ever to have supremacy over the faith. Christ's only relevant comment was " Give to Ceasar what is Ceasar's and to God what is Gods'."It may have been a marriage of convenience between church and state in europe, but in the end it was ultimately politics, not the core of the Religion.
That is where Western minds repeatedly misinterpret, or re-interpret Islam, which is what I think Duned does, and perhaps you as well.WE apply western standards and values to any discussion of it, assuming that politics and religion and not fundamentally intrinsically linked, because we have always been taught they are 2 separate things, that's how we operate.The Mistake lies in thinking Islam is a religion, and no Muslim Cleric or scholar worth his salt will agree. It is a way of life, they are one and the same, undivorced as they are in the west. We don't relate to the concept the same way they do in the mideast.
Now you have those how migrate to the west, deal with the west, that understand how WE perceive the difference, and they make accomodations either because they ahve resettled, or because they have business dealings with westerners, but that again is an adjustment. Yes, some people have their own interpretations, as dune says, but they are that, interpretations, the nearest thing they can be compared to is a reform k0vement or protestantism, but make no mistake, that is not how the majority of the worlds 1.3 billion muslims live as Muslims.
Western Christians routinely, or jews for that matter if practicing, pray communally once a week, and that qualifies as strictly observant here. It is considered a personal question to ask another person about their religion or religious beliefs.
In Islam, society prays, communally, 5 times a day, 35 times a week. Together. Everything stops.Those who don't stand out like a sore thumb, who you re and what you believe is on public display, observance is mandatory for members of the faith, not a matter of free will, and non observers have different political rights in most some countries, in a few are outright killed.By those in Political power.An apostate is as likely to get the hack as a christian in some lands.It's not a matter of free will, Islam is not a religion, and we make a mistake in dealing with it as if it were, Islam , the Prophet and the Koran never made any claims they were. It is westerners who out of s spirit of decency and compromise and accomodation primarily whop choose to interpret Islam this way, because, in the end, it serves OUR political objectives. Otherwise we must recognize we are dealing with an unreceptive and uncompromising partner when we engage with Islamic states.
about identity;aaand 'class' this and that supposed 'groups' of people ...and what they do, which set of ideas is very fundamental (totally untrue, but, never the less) and one has to look at things through those eyes to 'join.'
so I get your point.
however, I still believe that you and dune agree on 99% of this shit and just got started off badly since you were new and did not know that he was your 'brother from another era.'
about identity;aaand 'class' this and that supposed 'groups' of people ...and what they do, which set of ideas is very fundamental (totally untrue, but, never the less) and one has to look at things through those eyes to 'join.'
so I get your point.
however, I still believe that you and dune agree on 99% of this shit and just got started off badly since you were new and did not know that he was your 'brother from another era.'
I liked your point you made along the lines of truth arises from conflict, BTW.My own education was along those lines.
2) I agree with most of what he seems to be saying, so yeah, you're right.
I'm confused.
hehehe
but seriously. you guys should do.
More like Cowboys vs Eagles.