Interesting trade scenario rumor.. Eagles, Titans, Chargers

Man would this make me laugh.

If the chargers trade River I think they obtain Mariota.

They would be better off just trading with the Titans themselves and taking Mariota than ending up trading Rivers for Bradford.

That would be highway robbery.

to involve the Eagles in this. Rivers>>>Bradford.

every possible scenario by which the Eagles can get Mariota.

Maybe the Eagles are just not going to get Mariota. Chip Kelly is not the first NFL coach to have a shot at a QB he coached in college.

Personally, if the Philadephia desperately wants Mariotta, I want them to have to give up more than the Redskins gave up to get RGIII, something like:

1) Bradford
2) 2015 #1, #2
3) 2016 #1, #3
4) Liberty Bell
5) Independence Hall

In comment 12242876 Go Terps said:

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Man would this make me laugh.

Mariotta is a significantly better QB than Tebow.

Not saying that Mariotta is a sure fire bet to make it in the NFL, of course...

To move from #20 to #2, it would cost 2,600 points in trade value. This rumor has the Eagles giving up their #1 and #3 picks and Bradford. Their #1 and #3 picks are worth 1,020 points combined which means Bradford would have to be worth ~1,500 points for this scenario to happen. That values Bradford (an injury prone QB, earning ~$13M in the final year of his deal) as roughly equal to the 7th overall pick in the draft.

No way is Bradford worth that.

In comment 12242919 speedywheels said:

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In comment 12242876 Go Terps said: Quote: Man would this make me laugh. Mariotta is a significantly better QB than Tebow. Not saying that Mariotta is a sure fire bet to make it in the NFL, of course...

Mariota might suck in the NFL. But we know that Tebow sucks.

Since the Eagles aren't using their trophy case I'm sure they wouldn't mind throwing that in with the trade.

In comment 12242941 giants#1 said:

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To move from #20 to #2, it would cost 2,600 points in trade value. This rumor has the Eagles giving up their #1 and #3 picks and Bradford. Their #1 and #3 picks are worth 1,020 points combined which means Bradford would have to be worth ~1,500 points for this scenario to happen. That values Bradford (an injury prone QB, earning ~$13M in the final year of his deal) as roughly equal to the 7th overall pick in the draft. No way is Bradford worth that.

Further adding to this. This trade basically values Rivers as worth slightly less than the #2 overall pick. There is no way that Rivers, who has thrown for 4200+ yards in 5 of the last 6 seasons, is only worth the #2 overall pick if Bradford is worth the #7 overall pick.

a load of crap that some Iggles fan made up. What a bunch of attention whores. Chip provably isn't going to get Mariota.

Hope they're getting a few gallons of lube and some flowers too.

In comment 12242941 giants#1 said:

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To move from #20 to #2, it would cost 2,600 points in trade value. This rumor has the Eagles giving up their #1 and #3 picks and Bradford. Their #1 and #3 picks are worth 1,020 points combined which means Bradford would have to be worth ~1,500 points for this scenario to happen. That values Bradford (an injury prone QB, earning ~$13M in the final year of his deal) as roughly equal to the 7th overall pick in the draft. No way is Bradford worth that.

Even if Bradford agreed to sign a long term deal with SD, it still wouldn't be anywhere enough.

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A rumor started by a Eagles fan.

In comment 12242964 j_rud said:

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Hope they're getting a few gallons of lube and some flowers too.

It's a really stupid proposal mock.

Titans GET:

Rivers
3rd round pick

Titans GIVE:

#2 ovr pick
2nd round pick (33 ovr)

Yeah, not happening.

In comment 12242908 Trainmaster said:

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Personally, if the Philadephia desperately wants Mariotta, I want them to have to give up more than the Redskins gave up to get RGIII, something like: 1) Bradford 2) 2015 #1, #2 3) 2016 #1, #3 4) Liberty Bell 5) Independence Hall

this is hysterical

I don't think that package gets them to picks around 10.

Is Mariotta worth it - that is debatable. Is Williams - absolutely.

Look at the Eli trade - We gave them Rivers, another 1st, a 3rd and a 5th to move up 3 spots.

trades are difficult enough in the NFL due to the salary cap and how does a three team trade work in cap charges? Has there ever been a three team trade in the NFL? I personally can't think of one.

mean Chip isn't putting something else together. I think he thinks this guy in his system means a superbowl. I am remiinded a little bit of the zealousness (foolishness?) that Ditka went after Ricky Williams with.
who knows, maybe he's right, but it seems to me that multiple picks for one guy is almost always a mistake.

Just stupud

In comment 12242941 giants#1 said:

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To move from #20 to #2, it would cost 2,600 points in trade value. This rumor has the Eagles giving up their #1 and #3 picks and Bradford. Their #1 and #3 picks are worth 1,020 points combined which means Bradford would have to be worth ~1,500 points for this scenario to happen. That values Bradford (an injury prone QB, earning ~$13M in the final year of his deal) as roughly equal to the 7th overall pick in the draft. No way is Bradford worth that.

How do you figure? Bradford is 27, a former #1 himself, has 4 years experience in the NFL. He's proven he can play qb in the NFL.

He's worth more than a #7 pick who has never played a down in the NFL.

SD would get a proven starting NFL qb, a first rounder and the Titans 2nd rounder (which is a top 35 pick) for Rivers. That is not as outlandish as you make it sound.

For anyone in that trade except the Eagles.

In comment 12243087 George from PA said:

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Just stupud

It makes a ton of sense. How many draft picks have they spent already to come up with a qb? Those are picks that could have been spent elsewhere. They are spending the #2 pick but they are getting a top 10 NFL qb. The position is settled- finally- and they can get on with building the team. Would you spend a #2 pick to settle your qb position with a top 10 qb? You bet your ass you would.

In comment 12242892 Mr. Bungle said:

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every possible scenario by which the Eagles can get Mariota. Maybe the Eagles are just not going to get Mariota. Chip Kelly is not the first NFL coach to have a shot at a QB he coached in college.

+1 see Nassib

In comment 12243108 HomerJones45 said:

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It makes a ton of sense. How many draft picks have they spent already to come up with a qb? Those are picks that could have been spent elsewhere. They are spending the #2 pick but they are getting a top 10 NFL qb. The position is settled- finally- and they can get on with building the team. Would you spend a #2 pick to settle your qb position with a top 10 qb? You bet your ass you would.

Settled with a 33 year old due to be a free agent after the coming season? That doesn't sound very settled to me.

Rivers has been in the NFL far too long and could be in his waning days. How many years has he got left in him? Really? Not that many. He hasn't won much in the playoffs unlike the other 2 QBs taken that year. And the Titans are giving up the #2 pick for him? And it's a "fair trade"?

Too funny.

get hosed also, IMO. Why the hell give up Rivers?

One thing. He can't stay on the field. He's also in the last year of his deal. Banking your future on him is insane. Also when he's been healthy he's shown he can play QB but not be a great one or a game changer. who gives a shit where he was picked. His resume is what it is. A guy u can't count on staying healthy

In comment 12242908 Trainmaster said:

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Personally, if the Philadephia desperately wants Mariotta, I want them to have to give up more than the Redskins gave up to get RGIII, something like: 1) Bradford 2) 2015 #1, #2 3) 2016 #1, #3 4) Liberty Bell 5) Independence Hall

That's not going to hurt them enough either. The only thing that will truly sting is giving up Rocky Balboa and his statue. That would be enough to bring the city to its knees. And it would be glorious.

Rivers has said publicly he does not want to move to Los Angeles.

Rivers has also said publicly that he intends to move to the South after he retires from the NFL. Family ties there.

Tennessee plays reasonably close to the area he wants to live in later.

So if the Chargers feel they have to move Rivers, and that it's time to draft their QB of the future, Sam Bradford plus #20 overall plus #33 overall (1st pick of 2nd round) is a decent return. Better hit on those picks, though.

Don't see that as adequate return for the Titans, though, unless they feel Rivers has five years of elite Pro Bowl play in him.

In comment 12243108 HomerJones45 said:

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In comment 12243087 George from PA said: Quote: Just stupud It makes a ton of sense. How many draft picks have they spent already to come up with a qb? Those are picks that could have been spent elsewhere. They are spending the #2 pick but they are getting a top 10 NFL qb. The position is settled- finally- and they can get on with building the team. Would you spend a #2 pick to settle your qb position with a top 10 qb? You bet your ass you would.

Reminds me of the Giants trading the #2 pick for Craig Morton. Although Morton may have been a few years older.

He's been pretty unspecial and can't stay healthy.

Tebow sucks if your coach is a moron and uses him like he's Tom Brady.

I could see him doing well with Kelly, whose offense seems better suited for Tebow's abilities as a true double threat on offense.

In comment 12242881 jeff57 said:

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That would be highway robbery.

I'm with you. This trade doesn't add up.

Why would Tennessee acquire Rivers? He is getting older and they have a lot of holes. Once they fill most of those holes they would be looking for Rivers replacement. The only reason the Rivers to Titans makes any sense is because of Whisenhunt coaching him for 1 year. Whiz might already be on the hot seat and would surely prefer a vet like Rivers over Mettenberger but does he have much power to sway the GM?

In comment 12243220 Go Terps said:

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Tebow sucks if your coach is a moron and uses him like he's Tom Brady. I could see him doing well with Kelly, whose offense seems better suited for Tebow's abilities as a true double threat on offense.

Double threat? The guy simply can't pass on an NFL level. He's a tough runner, no doubt, but no one is afraid of him putting the ball in the air.

If he's being rolled out, given read options, etc. he could be a pain in the ass. Shit Foles and Sanchez were getting good yards against us on the read option. And Tebow is big enough that he can take a pounding equal to any running back.

I'm not saying he's Joe Montana, but there's a role for him in that offense, especially if they don't splurge for Mariotta.

In comment 12243220 Go Terps said:

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Tebow sucks if your coach is a moron and uses him like he's Tom Brady. I could see him doing well with Kelly, whose offense seems better suited for Tebow's abilities as a true double threat on offense.

Jay Feely called him the worst QB he has ever seen. Yeah, yeah - he's a kick so what does know, right? - but the bottom line, he's gotten a lot closer to the NFL then we ever will, and has seen his fair share of QB's up close...

So as Greg said - no one is afraid of him passing. No one...
Feely pulls no punches - ( New Window )

I doubt he will be any better now that he has been out of the league for 2 years which further stunted his development.

Eagles
trade 1st, 3rd and Bradford for 1st rnd 2nd overall pick...seems like a good deal for them

Titans
trade 1st and 2nd pick for Rivers and a 3rd (eagles)...seems like a lot to give up for a 33 year old QB not under contract after this year.

Chargers
trade Rivers for 1st (Eagles) 2nd (Titans) and Bradford....if I am the Chargers I would do this. Particularly if they are not planning on signing Rivers to another contract (which is what I hear). That means they would have three picks in the top 33 of the draft, plus another pick halfway through the 2nd. Good way to jumpstart a rebuild.

Titans are really getting screwed on this, but it depends on how they view Rivers. If they think Rivers could be the answer at QB for the next 5 years, is a 1st and a 2nd too much to give up?

At first glance I said no way on this deal, but more I think about it, could be plausible.

do you have any doubt that if he was available in this draft he'd go before 7 based on talent alone????? His contract diminishes his value slightly but maybe the Eagles use some of their enormous cap space to eat some of the cost.

In comment 12244145 WillieYoung said:

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do you have any doubt that if he was available in this draft he'd go before 7 based on talent alone????? His contract diminishes his value slightly but maybe the Eagles use some of their enormous cap space to eat some of the cost.

Top 10 draft picks are ridiculously undervalued around here. They are gold. You build your team through the draft and don't give up a top 10 pick lightly.

Bradford can't stay healthy and has been mostly underwhelming. He isn't worth the 7th pick. Not even close.

Look at the trajectory of his annual stats. Much more likely to be a starter for the next 10 years than either QB in this class.

In comment 12244237 WillieYoung said:

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Look at the trajectory of his annual stats. Much more likely to be a starter for the next 10 years than either QB in this class.

Umm... no.

Injuries have ruined his career. If he doesn't bounce back this year, he is a career backup at best.

In comment 12244145 WillieYoung said:

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do you have any doubt that if he was available in this draft he'd go before 7 based on talent alone?????

Yes, I would very much doubt that.

for the titans

He'll look good for the few games he's healthy per year, and probably get hurt on the first big hit he takes.

He's made of glass.