NFT: Subway Series Game 2: Mets Yankees, CC vs Harvey 4:05

In comment 12249266 Headhunter said:

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Fuck you you loser. Fuck you twice you ultimate loser

Bwahahaha. What a totally expected comeback from an idiot such as yourself. You going to challenge me to a fight at the the flagpole too, 'loser'?

Bwahahahahahahaha

In comment 12249267 Headhunter said:

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and die

I cant think of a more juvenile, 4th grade comeback so I'll just say, "your mom!"

Moron.

breath you cunt

In comment 12249273 Headhunter said:

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breath you cunt

Have another drink, keyboard warrior and, continue to enjoy your Yankee envy.

In comment 12249273 Headhunter said:

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breath you cunt

Also, I'm not into dudes. NTTAWWT.

In comment 12249273 Headhunter said:

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breath you cunt

Also, I'm not into dudes. NTTAWWT.

envious bitch. you pathetic loser

telling Met fans how important the Yankees are to them. Arrogant prick

In comment 12249261 Kulish29 said:

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In comment 12249237 PhiPsi125 said: Quote: In comment 12249200 Zebra3 said: Quote: In comment 12249169 PhiPsi125 said: Quote: Wont mention it again I thought this was the Doushy Yankee thread not the CandyAss Mets thread? Lol, okay whatever...I tried. Carry on. You tried, failed miserably and, showed your true colors. You, and other idiot Met fans like you are exactly like Red Sox fans pre-2004. Even when it's not about the Yankees, it's about the Yankees. Your team is so pathetic that, most of it's fanbase would rather celebrate a Yankees loss than a Mets win. Hell, even in your sad 'Met's Fans Only Threads' you talk more about the Yankees, their payroll and their stadium than you do the Mets. Seriously, go to a doctor and get your Yankee envy checked, moron.

Lol, you have issues. A lot of them. Sorry you are bitter. I did nothing but apologize on this thread. Grow up.

In comment 12249278 Headhunter said:

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envious bitch. you pathetic loser

Yup. Totally 'envious' of the Mets storied history.

I mean, who can forget plays like Luis Castillo's?

In comment 12249283 PhiPsi125 said:

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In comment 12249261 Kulish29 said: Quote: In comment 12249237 PhiPsi125 said: Quote: In comment 12249200 Zebra3 said: Quote: In comment 12249169 PhiPsi125 said: Quote: Wont mention it again I thought this was the Doushy Yankee thread not the CandyAss Mets thread? Lol, okay whatever...I tried. Carry on. You tried, failed miserably and, showed your true colors. You, and other idiot Met fans like you are exactly like Red Sox fans pre-2004. Even when it's not about the Yankees, it's about the Yankees. Your team is so pathetic that, most of it's fanbase would rather celebrate a Yankees loss than a Mets win. Hell, even in your sad 'Met's Fans Only Threads' you talk more about the Yankees, their payroll and their stadium than you do the Mets. Seriously, go to a doctor and get your Yankee envy checked, moron. Lol, you have issues. A lot of them. Sorry you are bitter. I did nothing but apologize on this thread. Grow up.

Yeah. I definitely am not the one with issues here. Nor am I bitter or the one who needs to 'grow up' But hey, whatever gets you to sleep at night, I mean, aside from the tube sights you surely frequent before bed.

Nice try though.

Almost stayed civil throughout

take it up with that person. You start lumping a fan base that you look to diminish because you think we are more concerned about what you guys do than what we do?

Definitely showed class to not go back at mets fans today (except for kulish). Hopefully tomorrow will be a good game after two blowouts.

In comment 12249293 Gmen1982 said:

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Almost stayed civil throughout

Yeah, who knew an apology who invoke such vitriol. Oh well. I'll bow out.

In comment 12249294 Headhunter said:

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take it up with that person. You start lumping a fan base that you look to diminish because you think we are more concerned about what you guys do than what we do?

Look sweetheart, can I call you sweetheart? Ah fuck it, I'm going to anyway.

Sweetheart, I only called out 'idiot Mets fans', you know, like frat bro moron PhiPsi. So, unless you are lumping yourself into the 'idiot Mets fans' category, I don't know why you're getting so red assed.

You are the one person that is making a problem between them wo fan bases. Stop and lets all enjoy the rubber game tomorrow and try to stay civil no matter what.

about the fan base, you seemed to really think that another team is more important to us than our own team. Do you really think the whole world revolves around you guys? If your team up and moved to Peoria in the middle of the night, I would think you as much as I think about the Houston Astros.

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I only called out 'idiot Mets fans', you know

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Your team is so pathetic that, most of it's fanbase would rather celebrate a Yankees loss than a Mets win

I don't agree it is worth getting upset about and into some type of pissing match because it is just an opinion of another fan and nothing more, but at least own what you say.

The entire premises is so ridiculous that if you can truly believe that most Mets fans would rather see a Yankee loss than a Mets win then you are the fan with the issues, not them. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you misspoke in the heat of the moment and nothing more.

How about moving forward we all just try to enjoy the remainder of the series and the added excitement that comes with it being the two NY teams going against each other in some meaningful games. It's just a game.

for that series to mean something for both teams. It would be great for NY/NJ.

What part about stay clean didn't you guys get?

Headhunter, don't bother wasting your time. Gmen1982, welcome to BBI. OK, move along people, nothing to see here. The Mets were the better team today. CC is burnt fat toast. Let's get the win tomorrow.

Of both of these knuckleheads, BBI would be much better off. Neither brings anything to the table.

In comment 12249312 Headhunter said:

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about the fan base, you seemed to really think that another team is more important to us than our own team. Do you really think the whole world revolves around you guys? If your team up and moved to Peoria in the middle of the night, I would think you as much as I think about the Houston Astros.

Do I really think the world revolves around the Yankees? No. In fact, the fans I loathe the most happen to be Yankee fans.

I'm just calling things as I see them. When the Mets play the Yankees and, I read things from Met fans about how, "Yankee Stadium is a little league ball park" and, "God I hate the Yankees so much" etc, etc...I just have to point it out. Whether you and your fellow Met brethren want admit it or not, the jealousy is quite apparent.

So, I will again reiterate my original statement, I called out 'idiot' Mets fans. If you consider yourself in that category, well, that's your prerogative.

GO YANKEES!

likely ruptured his achilles tonight jogging out of the box on a simple pop up.

Awesome for baseball to have one of the top pitchers hurt while hitting, totally worth it.

In comment 12249618 MookGiants said:

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likely ruptured his achilles tonight jogging out of the box on a simple pop up. Awesome for baseball to have one of the top pitchers hurt while hitting, totally worth it.

This makes no sense. Do you want all positions whose value may be mostly not hitting to not hit? Should we have DHs for SSs, CFers and catchers too?

because those positions have batting averages comparable to pitchers!

Pitchers should not hit. It's awful to watch them go up there and look like monkeys fucking a football trying to hit a baseball. Wainwright is considered a decent hitting pitcher and he is a career .199 hitter.

Pitchers bring next to no value with their bat and they are too damn valuable to a team to blow out their ankle running the damn bases on a popup in the infield. You can replace a SS who can't hit a lick, you can't replace a pitcher like Wainwright.

In 2013, the OPS of pitchers across baseball was .333, so exactly what is the fucking point of having them hit? Comparing it to another position is stupid, since no other position in baseball comes anywhere near that type of futility at the plate.

Just for comparisons sake, Stephen Drew, who was absolutely awful last year at the plate, posted a .536 slugging percentage.

OPS not slugging.

Startling all these fights.

told you that mets fans werent allowed on this thread, arc

Let's change the rules to suit pitchers, who are far too valuable and clumsy to risk an attempt to run to first base.

It isn't about futility at the plate. It's about having the balls to go up to the plate after beaning someone 2 innings prior.

but Brandon McCarthy left his start with an apparent elbow injury. Unfortunate for McCarthy, who was a big pickup for the Yankees last year and wanted to come back in the offseason.

In comment 12249626 Modus Operandi said:

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Let's change the rules to suit pitchers, who are far too valuable and clumsy to risk an attempt to run to first base. It isn't about futility at the plate. It's about having the balls to go up to the plate after beaning someone 2 innings prior.

National League fans always use this ridiculous point of view. How many pitchers have you ever seen thrown at? It just doesn't happen. Not very often. And just as many batters get hit in the NL as they do in the AL.

You really enjoy watching pitchers flail away aimlessly simply because you like them having "balls"? Ok then.

I watch him pitch and cringe. His control isn't nearly good enough to throw 89-90. He gets behind in the count has to throw that weak crap over the plate and major league batters tear him up.
He occasionally looks good, but then boom he gets blown up. He is the one weak link in the pitching staff. At this point I think the Yanks have a better chance winning when Warren starts. Bill Parcels said you are what your record says.
When Ivan Nova comes back perhaps it is CC that should go.

eliminates so much of the strategy, the little details and nuances of the game that makes it is far less interesting to watch. Sacrificing that just to have one more "bat" in the lineup IMO makes it more simplistic and boring. Plus there are still many exciting moments that occur throughout the season with a pitcher at bat that would never happen with the DH. Maybe not as commonplace but more unique and exciting when they do occur.

Again just my opinion but there is something to be said for the game being played as it was intended. One teams best nine collective players they can field against another's best nine.

If you're watching games to see double switches and sacrifice bunting, more power to ya. I don't tune in to watch managers manage.

And the line about how the game was meant to be played has been talked about often. All sports have evolved. Why should baseball be immune? Just my opinions.

is the only way to preserve tradition or sates your desire for "strategy" I don't know what to tell you. It isn't "pure," it isn't fun to look at, it's just pathetic to watch. I like tradition, I have been a fan of baseball since I was a toddler, but at some point what you deem tradition is much closer to inertia than anything else.

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In comment 12249993 moespree said:

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Again, I see this kind of comment all the time. But when was the last time you seen a pitcher drilled in retaliation? It's incredibly rare. Pitchers are not going to retaliate by hitting another pitcher. They've got to hit too, so why would they do that?

There's just no substance to this myth.

But since this is apparently serious business...

Pedro got hit batting and started a brawl. That's the only one I remember off hand.

Pedro Moura ‏@pedromoura 21h21 hours ago

Adrian Beltre sent Garrett Richards a $300 invoice for the three bats he broke yesterday. Richards loved it. He sent him back a bat.

His ERA+ in his last 44 starts is in the 70's. I know they owe him 75 million but how long can keep pitching him every 5 days? Cut Rogers and make CC the long man last pitcher. He's a negative WAR player at this point of his career. He's a good guy and he was really good for the Yankees until 2013. It's not his fault the Yankees gave him 2nd contract who wouldn't take the money? When Nova comes back in June CC has to be the guy he replaces.

Here's what I see so far.

AAA Flores & Heathcott hitting well. Flores really hitting well with power. Either would be an upgrade from Beltran if it wasn't for the 30 million he's owed. Austin has been awful, Refsnyder too although he's started to hit a little but with no power. Pitching Brian Mitchell has started well. Still too many walks but a good WHIP and k per inning. Burawa & Lindgren both pitching well out of the bullpen. Lindgren 12 K's 8 innings but 5 walks.

AA Jagielo & Judge both 3 HR's and about .900 OPS in a pitchers league. Bird started really slow but hitting now OPS up to .840. Was under .200 BA for a little while. Sanchez started even slower than Bird now up to .720 OPS was hitting .120 the first time I looked. Mason Williams cooling off from a hot start still high OBP but no power. Severino 20 k's 6 BB's in 15 innings

Anything below AA is beyond my scope so Dune or Phil or others can inform us.

everything else was fine, he was hitting for some power and taking walks, he was just finding gloves. That has turned of late.

Tyler Wade is hitting well above .300 and Andujar has cooled a bit after a very hot start. Rookie Davis is breaking out this season in a big way. Very talented.

Mateo, Avelino and Fowler are the story in Low A. Mateo and Avelino are in the top handful in the whole of the minor leagues in SBs and Fowler is killing it.

Domingo Acevedo and Ian Clarkin are on the shelf right now.

the most exciting thing is the trio of shortstops: Wade in Tampa and Avelino/Mateo in Charleston. I think all 3 project to be + defensively. Wade is mostly a singles hitter, but is off to a fast start (over .320 IIRC). Avelino has the most power of the 3, but it's mostly gap power. He and Mateo can both fly (Mateo's probably the fastest in the org) and have been off and running just about every game. IIRC, they both have 13+ SBs already on the season.

CF Fowler is another guy to watch in Charleston. I think he's got a 12 game hit streak going, but the power hasn't been there yet.

probably projects to be average or even above average in time. A lot of Jose Reyes in him. Avelino is likely to be more gap power than anything else, and at least to date Wade doesn't even have that much.

is he a plus glove? I know errors don't mean much. Both sally league SS's are 28/6 SB CS pretty impressive.

hopefully there are no new dumb contracts that block these guys.
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his offensive results have been much better this year. I haven't watched him enough to say the approach has improved markedly, but the results have.
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In comment 12250339 arniefez said:

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is he a plus glove? I know errors don't mean much. Both sally league SS's are 28/6 SB CS pretty impressive.

Yeah to be in High A at his age is very impressive. Soft hands, good range and a good arm, he's probably more above average than plus as a defender but he should be fine.