NFT: Mets Minors 4/26/2015

so i wouldn't count on Conforto send Grandy to the bench.

Looking forward to he and Nimmo though.

and platoon Grandy & Cuddyer in Right Field

think Nimmo may actually debut after Conforto. Nimmo has seemingly more to work on. I'm more of a Conforto believer at the present.

if he gets more direct contact to the ball he will be fine, if not expect a lot of pop ups and weak ground balls

be clear, I still like Nimmo. I just think he has more issues to his game currently. If he begins to drive the ball more he will become very intriguing. Currently, he's probably closer to a DeJesus type. Valuable but not a difference maker. He's still young though.

Maybe Cuddyer who has one year left on his contract for less money. But Grandy at 15 mil for 2 more seasons, I would be shocked if that happened.

the levels of competition.

In comment 12249823 Four Aces said:

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Maybe Cuddyer who has one year left on his contract for less money. But Grandy at 15 mil for 2 more seasons, I would be shocked if that happened.

More productive player should play regardless of the price tag..... What's the alternative? Conforto doesn't play until 2017? I can't see that. If anything maybe they have the balls to dump Granderson for a similarly overpriced guy at another position. The holding onto guys like Bay stuff was frustrating because it was because of money but in fairness they never had a Conforto or Nimmo to replace a guy like Bay. I just can't see Conforto mashing and not being promoted if one of Granderson or Cuddyer is "struggling".

Luis Guillorme is doing a nice job leading off for Savannah. He's batting .340 and working a lot of walks. The Gnats gave a 4 run lead to Josh Prevost (he likes to pronounce it in the French way --Pray-voh), but Big Josh pissed it away in the 5th and 6th innings (le Pee-yew). He struck out 5 and walked none but, the top of the RiverDogs order has a couple of prized infielders and a good cleanup hitter. Their bullpen is pretty solid too.

Wuilmer appeared late as a pinch-hitter and singled. And was promptly picked off. Oh well.

In comment 12249827 Four Aces said:

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the levels of competition.

Conceivably Nimmo might have the higher floor since he can play averagish CF so maybe if he doesn't develop as hoped he can still be a Kirk type but realistically the floors are probably Kirk type vs. Andrew Brown type. I think both will easily surpass that. Just saying. Conforto has better odds of being a difference maker offensively. Maybe a Pat the Bat type, dream huge and a Matt Holliday.

In comment 12249829 Named Later said:

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Luis Guillorme is doing a nice job leading off for Savannah. He's batting .340 and working a lot of walks. The Gnats gave a 4 run lead to Josh Prevost (he likes to pronounce it in the French way --Pray-voh), but Big Josh pissed it away in the 5th and 6th innings (le Pee-yew). He struck out 5 and walked none but, the top of the RiverDogs order has a couple of prized infielders and a good cleanup hitter. Their bullpen is pretty solid too. Wuilmer appeared late as a pinch-hitter and singled. And was promptly picked off. Oh well.

Any clue on Prevost's velocity? Older but was an intriguing senior pick

who's a big question mark at this point, and not much else right?

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who's a big question mark at this point, and not much else right?

OF is very thin. They have some real young kids like Cespedes (at least 4-5 years away at minimum) but overall yeah they have 2 top OF prospects in Conforto and Nimmo. Intriguing Becerra, and some guys worth monitoring (Stuart etc). Brosher could end up in the OF and his bat is very intriguing.

be the strategy this year. How's Ivan Wilson doing?

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be the strategy this year. How's Ivan Wilson doing?

They decided to leave him in short season. He will open in BK in a few months

I would expect Mets to go pitcher early, not OF. Shame we dont have a first rounder.

Re : Pevost's Velocity.

I was listening on the radio, and not too intently at that. I don't think they mentioned his velocity, I think he just ran out of gas in the 5th and gave up a string of singles. There are also 3 Sand Gnats errors in the Box Score, but those are still 4 ER in 6 innings. The upshot is, he faced the Dogs last week in Savannah and pitched much the same way -- 5 ER in 5 innings with 7 K's and only 1 walk. I think the kid is still feeling his way in the Sally League.

We're not in Seton Hall anymore.

dumber given how close Confroto is.

But I also hate thinking about this roster without Cuddyer. Getting anyone comparable would have likely cost Montero at a minimum. Just sucks that the system allows the QO system on long time vet like Cuddyer. Injury prone-ness aside, he's the perfect placeholder for the 12-24 month Nimmo/Comforto wait as a hitter and with his position flexibility.

and all of them will tell you Muchael Cuddyer and second place is not even close. His work habits and preparation and how he plays the game makes them all accountable. The team has played smart baseball in large part because of Cuddyer. I would do this trade 20 times over. Same effect as when Keith Hernandez joined the Mets. You really dot follow the Mets, you just react to who knows what

Cuddyer will end up hitting .290 plus and drive in 75 runs when it's all said and done

whose stats don't mean very much. Even taking the off the field impact out of the equation, I don't care how many RBIs or HRs he ends up with. He may only hit 15 HRs but it doesn't matter. Unlike Bay & Granderson he takes professional at bats and is simply not a guy opposing pitchers want to face in any meaningful situation. He's probably not on the Olerud level but he's pretty close.

was between 91-93

1) Matt Harvey is back

2) Michael Cuddyers influence & leadership

Considering he has been EXTREMELY cautious to not step on Wrights toes, I'm not sure where you are getting this "Cuddyer as savior" thought from. If anything, he has pushed Wright even further into a leadership role on the team.

on that list. Top to bottom the entire lineup has had more professional AB's than the last 5 years combined. Granderson is a night and day different player at the plate and I think that's clearly a reflection of the team's overall approach this year vs. previous years. Unthinkably Duda looks even better than 2nd half last year. Cuddyer's influence part of that but Long as well.

Told the Mets actually view organizational depth at positional player spots and realize pitching has thinned out considerably

You must live in a place that doesn't get SNY. Cuddyer's leadership is a recurring theme game in and game out from Apple, Figueroa, and particularly Jim Duquette. But I get that you live in Buttfuck Florida and don't have the same access as I do

In comment 12249865 Headhunter said:

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and all of them will tell you Muchael Cuddyer and second place is not even close. His work habits and preparation and how he plays the game makes them all accountable. The team has played smart baseball in large part because of Cuddyer. I would do this trade 20 times over. Same effect as when Keith Hernandez joined the Mets. You really dot follow the Mets, you just react to who knows what

Do you have a source for all these claims about Cuddyer? Thanks in advance.

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was between 91-93

Thanks. His height likely helps that play up further.

you can get a leader who isn't a great player without giving up a first round pick.

that's my reputation around here that I make shit up. You want to live in your bubble, far be it from me to enlighten you

how instrumental Cuddyer has been as far as setting an example on how to play the game. Collins further said when the young guys on the team see the way he plays and go about his work, that the young guys have to take notice and follow. He demands it.

In comment 12249900 DanMetroMan said:

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Told the Mets actually view organizational depth at positional player spots and realize pitching has thinned out considerably

Ive been saying this for like a year now. The pitching in the lower levels isn't all that outstanding.

Any player worth a damn as an acquisition would have cost us AT LEAST the value of what the first round pick would have been worth. Ive posted this a million times but I guess Im just going to keep positing it...
1. Justin Upton, .812 OPS over past 3 seasons, .753 road, 15 million $ in 2015, then a free agent, high K Totals against, package cost recent 1st rounder Max Fried among others...
2. Wil Myers, .724 OPS so far, .748 on the road, coming off wrist injury, high K totals against, Package cost last year's 1st rounder Trea Turner among several others.
3. Matt Kemp, .842 OPS so far, .869 on the road (including 1.042 in over 100 AB at Coors), package included 2010 1st rounder Yasmani Grandal among others. He'll cost the Padres 15 million in 2015 and the 4 years after that - while hoping his body holds up.
4. Cuddyer has the lowest K rate among these 4, the highest OPS (.887) total, the 2nd highest road OPS (.795 with most road games in extreme pitcher parks), will cost the 2nd lowest money total over the next two years and also only cost one young prospect instead of 3+ and the lowest 1st rounder of the 4...

and they were talking about Gregorious and how the Yankees are likely already coming up with a plan to acquire a better SS. They pointed out his ability to make the flashy defensive play from time to time.

They said any coach or manager will tell you they'll take the guy that makes the every day routine play over and over again over the guy that makes the flashy play but flubs the easy one once in a while every day of the week. I just thought it was interesting in relation to Flores.

to resume baseball activities. Good news

would love to get him back in like a week hopefully.

Agree with you on Cuddyer. Good signing and giving up a first worth it
But also only signing him for two years was just as smart.
The signing that I always hated was Granderson. It wasn't about the money but the length of the contract. Was not a fan of this

And I'm not so excited about Wright coming back. Campbell has done a superb job and unfortunately Dzvid Wright has seen his better days

Agreed with all your points except for David Wright. He still has a lot left in the tank and was swinging a good bat before he got hurt. I think he's gonna be big for us this year, and will show he's still a very good player and one of the best in baseball.

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he was on track to be not the same power hitter he was, but a middle of the lineup force. Yes he strikes out a little too much, but he is still an excellent baseball player. You need a healthy David Wright for the long run. As down as we are on Grandy his OBP is great. You know that he will hit home runs in bunches. A healthy Wright and Cuddyer is a must IMO

All valid points but neither Curtis or Wright are living up to their contracts and probably won't ever

so far 2-3 hitting a robust .377 in AAA.

with a 2 run homerun. He's 2 for 3. That's his 6th homerun. To those that pointed out that Conforto was "good" last year in Brooklyn but not "great"(This seemed to be a topic over the offseason) I think we can finally put any concerns their to rest.

Conforto is absolutely making a mockery of A+ ball.